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Winter NAMMticipation 2020 #3006032 09/01/19 07:26 PM
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As most of you know, the 2020 Winter NAMM Show will begin Thursday, January 16th at the Anaheim Convention Center, and run through Sunday, the 19th. Like last year, there are three threads: 1) an advance thread for rumors, speculation, wish lists, and early product announcements, or "NAMMticipation" as I like to call it, 2) an advance thread for planning: how to get passes, when and where to meet up with other forum members, etc., and 3) the traditional NAMM Reports thread for product announcements, videos, and reports from members on what and who they saw at the Convention Center.

This, of course, is the rumors, speculation, wish lists, and early product announcements thread. Feel free to post anything of that nature below.

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Re: Winter NAMMticipation 2020 [Re: Geoff Grace] #3006081 09/02/19 02:43 AM
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Heard something about a new Roland synth in the grapevine.

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A wish: a non piano-weighted version of the MODX8. I love my MODX7 to bits, but would totally plonk down the cash for a MODX8 with lighter keys. Would probably sell me Kronos LE 88 even though it's obviously a much deeper board in a lot of ways.

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Good point indeed. Didn’t like my MODX8 and got a MODX6 instead, compact and lightweight, but would love to have another MODX8 with waterfall keys.

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Originally Posted by Fleer
Heard something about a new Roland synth in the grapevine.
I spoke with someone at Gearfest regarding the lack of a Roland flagship board since the Jupiter-80. I also mentioned that it would be cool to have a keyboard version of an Integra-7. My Roland “wish list” keyboard would be an RD-2000 with a built-in Integra 7. Unlike the previous year, I left that conversation feeling guardedly hopeful/optimistic.


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Re: Winter NAMMticipation 2020 [Re: Geoff Grace] #3006122 09/02/19 03:11 PM
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NAMM 2020 rumors already? Well, why not - I just decided I will go there in January!


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Re: Winter NAMMticipation 2020 [Re: Geoff Grace] #3006132 09/02/19 04:04 PM
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I heard that Fleetwood Mac teamed up with <can't say because of NDA> to introduce a VSTi called "Rumours" which will include all synth and keys sounds from the namesake album, plus expansion packs for the song "Rumors" by Timex Social Club, "Rumor" by Lee Brice, and "Rumor Has It" as recorded by Adele, Clay Walker, Donna Summer, and Reba McEntire.

Re: Winter NAMMticipation 2020 [Re: Geoff Grace] #3006141 09/02/19 05:31 PM
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I agree that Roland is due for a flagship update. I just haven't seen enough meaningful signal from the rumor mill to distinguish a collective feeling that there should be something in the works from something actually happening. Still, with Roland being quite visibly invested in MIDI 2.0, I can see launching an ambitious monster as a great way to re-establish some leadership in synth innovation. If it builds on ACB modeling and the Integra-7 style SuperNatural in a single unit I'd be intrigued. Doubly so if it had a great poly aftertouch action (but then I'd take a long hard look at anyone who checks that particular box.)

Prior to NAMM we'll almost certainly see what Sequential has up their collective sleeve. This past NAMM they set the expectation that they'd unveil something new this summer. Even if it's taking a little longer than expected, we should see something in the next month or two.


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Re: Winter NAMMticipation 2020 [Re: Lady Gaia] #3006150 09/02/19 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lady Gaia
I agree that Roland is due for a flagship update.
I am waiting to see if the Roland/Studioelectronics polysynth is going to happen- I would love to see an updated Omega/Code 8.

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Originally Posted by Lady Gaia
I agree that Roland is due for a flagship update. I just haven't seen enough meaningful signal from the rumor mill to distinguish a collective feeling that there should be something in the works from something actually happening. Still, with Roland being quite visibly invested in MIDI 2.0, I can see launching an ambitious monster as a great way to re-establish some leadership in synth innovation. If it builds on ACB modeling and the Integra-7 style SuperNatural in a single unit I'd be intrigued. Doubly so if it had a great poly aftertouch action (but then I'd take a long hard look at anyone who checks that particular box.)

Prior to NAMM we'll almost certainly see what Sequential has up their collective sleeve. This past NAMM they set the expectation that they'd unveil something new this summer. Even if it's taking a little longer than expected, we should see something in the next month or two.


My dream Roland next step would be for them to yes, integrate ACB/DCB with their Integra engine and sampleset in a full, solid workstation. It would be a kind of “roll your own Roland Classic Synth,” with access to all the existing models of filters and oscillators to mix and match, such as they’ve started to evolve the System 8 towards.

Then you could mix those results with anything in Integra (or nothing) you’d like.

With the full suite of COSM models, to boot, and Roland’s wide array of tasty and very flexible effects.

This could be a real capstone of the company’s efforts the past decade.

OTOH Roland is always full of surprises, so it might be something else entirely! The remainder of the System 100/700 modules in their System 500 series; more Boutiques; something entirely new!

Will be fun to see, in any event. Just hope they don’t ship it right into a global recession, which seems to be their luck sometimes.

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Re: Winter NAMMticipation 2020 [Re: Geoff Grace] #3006225 09/03/19 03:34 AM
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Behringer announces a future Fairlight CMI clone complete with monochrome green screen monitor for $499.99.







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Re: Winter NAMMticipation 2020 [Re: Geoff Grace] #3006270 09/03/19 12:38 PM
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Nord Lead.

No, seriously, Clavia introduced new models for all the products but the NL4/NL A1; it is not clear if they want to continue the game,
but if they do, it may happens this time (if they had time from all the bug fixing in the NS3).

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Re: Winter NAMMticipation 2020 [Re: CEB] #3006272 09/03/19 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CEB
Behringer announces a future Fairlight CMI clone


I'm still waiting for the Bynclavier. w00t


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Originally Posted by Synthoid
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Behringer announces a future Fairlight CMI clone


I'm still waiting for the Bynclavier. w00t



We're going to need Bheringer stickers to put all over our vintage synths.


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The stuff that was announced already and hasn't shown up will get announced again. deadhorse

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Originally Posted by mauriziodececco
Nord Lead.

No, seriously, Clavia introduced new models for all the products but the NL4/NL A1; it is not clear if they want to continue the game,
but if they do, it may happens this time (if they had time from all the bug fixing in the NS3).

Maurizio
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What I expect: another stage piano.

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+1 for new Roland flagship. 76 keys with aftertouch, please, and some velvety Roland goodness.

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Of course Roland also has a history of announcements on 9/9, but have any of them been for professional keys?


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Originally Posted by zephonic
+1 for new Roland flagship. 76 keys with aftertouch, please, and some velvety Roland goodness.



Whaddayaknow?!? 12 hours later, my wish has been granted!

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Originally Posted by zephonic
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+1 for new Roland flagship. 76 keys with aftertouch, please, and some velvety Roland goodness.



Whaddayaknow?!? 12 hours later, my wish has been granted!

Wow, how did you do that? That was quick! Good job!!!

After seeing how Roland abandoned the Fantom G, if I was interested I'd wait 12-18 months to see what kind of support/OS updates they offer.


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Re: Winter NAMMticipation 2020 [Re: Fleer] #3006825 09/06/19 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Fleer
Heard something about a new Roland synth in the grapevine.


And here it is. With the recent announcements of all the new Roland gear, the new Hydrasynth, and now a new synth from Modal Electronics, it seems companies don’t want to wait until January NAMM. Is NAMM becoming less important? Will other keyboard companies do the same?

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Maybe Korg or Yamaha will respond at NAMM with something new.

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Originally Posted by Radagast
Originally Posted by Fleer
Heard something about a new Roland synth in the grapevine.


And here it is. With the recent announcements of all the new Roland gear, the new Hydrasynth, and now a new synth from Modal Electronics, it seems companies don’t want to wait until January NAMM. Is NAMM becoming less important? Will other keyboard companies do the same?


I think trade shows are less important every year. They only exist because of human relationship, I think. Many industries have their major announcements outside the show window - it is too crowded. Your message is lost in a feed of hundreds of vendors. Its not like Roland needs a lot of "press coverage". Free enthusiasts sites get the word out to everyone who cares within hours. Better to spend on social media "influencers" than show journalists.... The world has changed.

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Okay it's November so no NAMM leaks or comments yet?

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How about a wish list? I'd like to see a decent quality semi-weighted controller (61 keys minimum, no diving boards) with MIDI & Bluetooth, 9 buttons & sliders, panel transpose, pitch & mod wheels, two pedal jacks, powered by any user option of AC, USB & Batteries.



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Originally Posted by drawback
How about a wish list? I'd like to see a decent quality semi-weighted controller (61 keys minimum, no diving boards) with MIDI & Bluetooth, 9 buttons & sliders, panel transpose, pitch & mod wheels, two pedal jacks, powered by any user option of AC, USB & Batteries.




Is this one close enough for you? : https://www.arturia.com/products/hybrid-synths/keylab-mkii/overview

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As far as keys go, I’m oddly wish-less this time around. There’s a new Fantom, there’s a CP88, and there’s an SKX. Those three boards pretty much cover everything I want.

It feels weird not longing for something that doesn’t exist.

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Originally Posted by felis
Originally Posted by drawback
How about a wish list? I'd like to see a decent quality semi-weighted controller (61 keys minimum, no diving boards) with MIDI & Bluetooth, 9 buttons & sliders, panel transpose, pitch & mod wheels, two pedal jacks, powered by any user option of AC, USB & Batteries.




Is this one close enough for you? : https://www.arturia.com/products/hybrid-synths/keylab-mkii/overview


er.... well, not quite. wink This has diving board keys, no Bluetooth, no battery power. I like Arturia though, I have a MKII 88.


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