Fleer Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Ideal set up to compare. Do you find Nord beats the Vox Continental on Wurli? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 yes, they are more expensive however Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkost2002 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 IMO, the Wurlies on the Yamaha are top notch. Having played live and recorded with140s,145s, 112s and 200s, I can authoritatively say Yamaha KILLS Nord. And I"ve toured and backlined EVERY Nord Electro and Stage since the first iterations of both. Nord has a 'hard stop' on ALL their EP samples that make for a less organic experience than Yamaha. I"ve also backlined all the Motifs, S90, Montage and just about every Korg too. Korgs are next best EPs after Yamaha. Being more than 30 days in on a CP88, I still find it to be the most satisfying emulator I have played thus far. I haven't ever had a less than inspirational or 'want to keep playing' feeling on this board, and isn't that what we all strive for?? My only issue is that I have to have hernia surgery in 2 weeks and wont be able to schlep the CP out for a good long while so Im considering a VC 73 as a backup gigging keyboard for EPs in the meantime! Quote "I have constantly tried to deliver only products which withstand the closest scrutiny � products which prove themselves superior in every respect.� Robert Bosch, 1919 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 thanks for that info, Jim. Best to you on your upcoming surgery. As far as the Wurlitzers, I'll defer to your ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 It's subjective and varies with the model, but I tend to like Korg, Kurzweil, Kawai, and Casio Wurlis better than Yamaha, Nord, or Roland. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkost2002 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Thanks for the good wishes, Dave! Quote "I have constantly tried to deliver only products which withstand the closest scrutiny � products which prove themselves superior in every respect.� Robert Bosch, 1919 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickzjamm Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 September OS update Yamaha? The dust cloud is the other big dogs on the block moving forward. Quote You don't know you're in the dark until you're in the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 I think Yamaha has turned over a new leaf with software update promises. At least it's been that way since they bought Steinberg (I have no idea if getting those engineers helped in this regard or not). A few weeks left in September. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Man I love this board. I had to learn how to navigate it a little but it feels great. The build quality is nice and tight. The unit feels secure. It's even better then when I played it at GC in Buffalo. I love the action. This will be great for piano centered gigs. I will still keep the Forte of course. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickzjamm Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 But it seems that it needs a second tier mate to "complete" it like say, a MODX or a FA-06 for bread & butter. That's why I'm intrigued on the September surprise, hope it's better "other" sounds. Quote You don't know you're in the dark until you're in the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickzjamm Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Got the CP88 & very impressed with the APs & EPs, paired it with my FA-06 and it's great! Light weight, solid sounds (except the organ on both boards fall flat) that can cover any cover band needs. Hopefully the September OS update will bring game. Quote You don't know you're in the dark until you're in the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George88 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just got mine yesterday. Best feeling keyboard I"ve owned. Last one I had that was close was RD700NX and this is an improvement by a long shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephonic Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 I really dig both CP"s for ac.piano, but I wish the Rhodes had a little more flavor. It sounds great, but doesn"t make me boogie. Oddly, the Rhodes on the Krome may not be the most authentic, but it definitely gives me the vibe. Quote gear list.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Krome love, now that"s unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazKeys Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Update 1.2 is now available for download. 30 new sounds and some tweaks to the OS including being able to assign a controller to USB volume. Handy if you are using an iPad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazKeys Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Here's a grab of some of the new sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazKeys Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 The download is over 1.2Gb - so must be overwriting the last update and then adding the sounds from V1.1 plus the new sounds. So it probably includes about 100Mb of new stuff - clunky way of doing things. Another couple of OB Brass sounds (why?) but at least they have now added 1 (One) Brass sound - let's hope it's a good 'un! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Here's the complete list of new sounds: Good to see staples harmonica, flute, brass. Mellotrons ia a nice surprise. Still missing for my ideal "bread and butter" set: accordion, sax, violin, trumpet, choir voices. I'm also surprised that this kind of piano-centric board still has just two clav sounds, I would have expected at least all 4 basic pickup settings. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Very cool. I will check this out at home. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Haven't downloaded yet (seeing this just as I'm leaving for work). On paper it's clearly an improvement -- just having a few more lead synth sounds is great -- but not a game changer. The CP is still a piano-centered board lacking enough additional sounds to get you through most gigs. They don't list any "new" organ sounds, but I'm curious whether they've improved the existing ones at all. To me, that's where the CP is a non-starter as an all-in-one board, because the organs are not gig-useable. Anyway, I wasn't expecting a miracle. This is about what I expected. I never planned on using the CP as an all-in-one. Quote Gigging: Crumar Mojo 61, Hammond SKPro Home: Vintage Vibe 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Unless they added a mono mode and portamento, it may still be too limited to pull off a lot of lead synth stuff. I haven't actually heard the CP's organs, but assuming they're at least comparable to the MotifXS/MOX/MX, I think they can get you by for a lot of typical gigs where you just need an occasional organ sound, and are in line with most rompler organs people without clonewheels have been gigging with for many years. I guess I put organ and synth in the same category for this kind of board... don't expect much, but sometimes you don't need much. All I'd expect out of a board like this are strong "piano type" sounds (where I still find the dearth of clav sounds surprising), with basic "get you by" sounds for everything else (where there are still a few gaps, IMO). Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 That should flesh it out a bit. Good to see them follow through on this, and in Sept. as promised. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickzjamm Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Looks like minimal OS update, really wanted a better organ and "other" sound choices... oh well, returned it. Quote You don't know you're in the dark until you're in the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Why would someone by this for organ patches? Especially on a weighted board. It makes no sense. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 CP organs are not as good as those on MODX. The question is not why would you buy the CP for organ. The question is, are the CP organs good enough to get you through even a very low priority gig where you'd prefer to bring only the CP to minimize shlep. For me, the answer is no. Quote Gigging: Crumar Mojo 61, Hammond SKPro Home: Vintage Vibe 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Yes, there is some organ improvement on the MODX/Montage compared to the earlier Motif series, largely by virtue of the introduction of "multi part single instruments" which allow you to create an organ sound with more than 8 elements (necessary if you want the equivalent of 9 separate drawbars plus things like key click and leakage). But while obviously not good enough for everyone, lots of people have managed to get by with those previous generation Motif organ sounds as well (which is why I said "assuming they're at least comparable to the MotifXS/MOX/MX"). It's the wrong board for an organ-centric gig, obviously. But for organ, lots of players just need something passable for a few songs. I've used those organ sounds on plenty of gigs myself. I think even that level of organ makes the CP88/73 more useful for a lot of players than if it had no organ at all. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 It's just weird. I never thought of using a Yamaha for organ centered stuff? It never occurred to me, and I had every one of the S80 and S90 units except the ES model. I mean there are so many clones out there can do the job better so I take it in the context it was designed for. I am sure Yamaha does it as a courtesy but that can't be the focus of this board to provide Hammond emulation? Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazKeys Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 And with more and more people using iPads you can just get a copy of Galileo or even use the organ in Korg Module. Just one USB and a CCK and your good to go. Plus up to 4 zones and lots of controller options for your iPad apps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryjam Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 In my Chicago tribute situation, I use Mojo61 over CP4. The CP4 has a polyphonic synth sound that is serviceable, especially since I can edit the filter. (think of the huge crescendo near the end of Hard Habit to Break). When you owners of CP88 try out the new sounds, can you comment on any new analog polyphonic synth patches? Are there big ole polyphonic (brass?) patches ? Is there anything approaching filter editing? I guess I can wait for Guitar Center to download 1.2 before I try it out. I"ll search for YouTube videos. The idea of having 3 layers is appealing. A number of our tunes have AP, dx7, and analog poly mixed at various levels. I like to have only some of them respond to expression pedal. Quote Barry Home: Steinway L, Montage 8 Gigs: Yamaha CP88, Crumar Mojo 61, A&H SQ5 mixer, ME1 IEM, MiPro 909 IEMs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabo Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I found the new sounds somewhat disappointing -- but some of the pads do sound ok. I agree on the comments on the bread and butter stuff. I really need accordion, violin, etc. And there's got to be an opportunity to improve those organs. I don't need clone quality, just something useble. Compared to the Roland RD2000 -- there's just a scarcity of what I would call essential sounds in the additional sound category. Quote Yamaha Montage M6, Nord Stage 4 - 88, Hammond SK-Pro 73, Yamaha YC-73, Mainstage, Yamaha U1 Upright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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