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Re: cool new effects [Re: Dannyalcatraz] #3003662 08/17/19 01:35 PM
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@Dannyalcatraz - Well understood. Granular Delay was already on my list, which is why I got the Charlie Foxtrot. I also got it because it was more compact and less expensive than the other pedals I was looking at, like the Red Panda Particle Delay. Still, the wealth of functions in the Mood pedal help justify the high price.

@Mark Schmieder - Glad you got that worked out. Let us know when you explore some of the other features, I may have to get one, too!

@Caevan - While the Slow Attack effect is something that can easily be managed with an Analog circuit, my Malekko Sneak Attack is also digital. Malekko recently developed or acquired - I'm not sure which - a new DSP, which is the driving force behind the Sneak Attack, Charlie Foxtrot and Scrutator pedals. Not really surprising when you consider that one DSP chip in a MFX gives us a whole library of FX types and functions.


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Re: cool new effects [Re: Larryz] #3004409 08/21/19 10:40 PM
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@Larryz - Thank you, brother, looking forward to it, wish we could meet up somewhere in the middle! Kansas City BBQ sound good to you?

In the meantime, I found something I had been looking for, at a stupid GC Used Gear price that I couldn't pass it up. I'd been wanting a Malekko Scrutator for a while now, and seeing them for $140-160 in the Used Gear listings. Too close to new price for me, once you add in tax & shipping, and I'd already picked up some pedals recently, so I'd been holding off.

Yesterday, I saw one listed for $110 in Excellent Condition at a nearby GC, so I was tempted, but decided to wait on it. This morning, when I looked online again, it had been knocked down to $100?!?!? I figured I was already saving $50-70, plus I didn't have to wait a week for it to get here, so I went and got it, dropped it off at home, then went about my day of gardening work. I'll have time to really dig in tomorrow.

BTW, it really is in excellent condition! No marks, no dings, no Velcro, not even any dust from the display case. IDK . . .


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Re: cool new effects [Re: hurricane hugo] #3004412 08/21/19 10:54 PM
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Woot!

Just out of curiosity, do you ever shop eBay or Reverb? I do, and I’ve found some good deals on them. (Plus other sites as well, depending on what you’re looking for,)


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Re: cool new effects [Re: Dannyalcatraz] #3004503 08/22/19 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dannyalcatraz
Woot!

Just out of curiosity, do you ever shop eBay or Reverb? I do, and I’ve found some good deals on them. (Plus other sites as well, depending on what you’re looking for,)


I tend to stick with GC and my FLUMS, because I want to have a brick-&-mortar store to return something, if it isn't right. The folks at my FLUMS have known me for a long time, so they always give me a good deal, and I like supporting them. OTOH, my nearby GC's often have their Used Gear at prices too low to pass up, like that Scrutator.

An even more absurd example - Earlier in the week, while looking for a power brick, I'd come across a Ghost Fire pedalboard (Chinese-made Pedaltrain clone) with a PP2+ mounted underneath, and all the cables for the PP2+, in a gig bag, for $39.99!?!?! On the same page, there was a PP2+ by itself, for $99. $39.99 might have been a fair price for the pedalboard alone, but with the PP2+? Didn't really need the pedalboard, but since I was looking for a spare power brick, once again, I couldn't see passing it up at $55 with tax and shipping. My plan is to keep the power brick, sell or trade the pedalboard, and come out having spent little or nothing for the power brick. My wife calls it "working the system."


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Re: cool new effects [Re: Winston Psmith] #3004544 08/22/19 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Winston Psmith
@Larryz - Thank you, brother, looking forward to it, wish we could meet up somewhere in the middle! Kansas City BBQ sound good to you?



It sounds great but my traveling days are behind me now...I'll still be sending a toast your way though Bro! thu


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Re: cool new effects [Re: hurricane hugo] #3004856 08/24/19 08:58 PM
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Re: cool new effects [Re: hurricane hugo] #3006349 09/03/19 08:21 PM
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I'm throwing this one out here to see what the Forum thinks?

Lot of discussion in other Gear forums about it. Part of the discussion is "Tube Screamer or not Tube Screamer?" Intentionally ambiguous ad and industry copy from EQD, coupled with the low price point, seem intended to boost sales from the merely curious. (It's the least expensive EQD pedal on the market. Even their bare-bones, no-knobs Tentacles Octave Up pedal is $130.)

Obvious Pro Tube Screamer point: It's a green 3-knob OD for $100

Less obvious Anti-TS point: It doesn't use the classic components?

Decide for yourselves. FWIW, there are other demo videos, where it sounds very different with different Guitar-&-Amp combos.



My one complaint with all the demo videos I see, particularly for Dirt pedals, is that everyone is plugged into an Amp that's already just on the edge of distortion!?!?! I tend to run my Amp clean, and add Drive with Drive pedals. Is that so wrong?


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Re: cool new effects [Re: Winston Psmith] #3006371 09/03/19 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Winston Psmith
I'm throwing this one out here to see what the Forum thinks?

Lot of discussion in other Gear forums about it. Part of the discussion is "Tube Screamer or not Tube Screamer?" Intentionally ambiguous ad and industry copy from EQD, coupled with the low price point, seem intended to boost sales from the merely curious. (It's the least expensive EQD pedal on the market. Even their bare-bones, no-knobs Tentacles Octave Up pedal is $130.)

Obvious Pro Tube Screamer point: It's a green 3-knob OD for $100

Less obvious Anti-TS point: It doesn't use the classic components?

I'd say- judging from video examples and descriptions- that it's very TS based, very much an enhanced, expanded variation on that TS theme, and even improved upon the more typical TS's and their numerous clones and variations. It's pretty versatile as such overdrives and boosts go. It seems to sound clearer and more dynamic, with better definition. So, not just another TS derivative "clone".

The price is not bad at all. And it's relatively small.

If I needed anything remotely TS like, I'd definitely have the Plumes on my list of pedals to scope out. As it is, though, I don't think that it brings anything that I can't coax the most of out of, say, my Fulltone Full-Drive 3, which is a considerably larger pedal, though it also has more features, and good ones, at that- for as little as about $23 and change more than the Plumes.

By the way- any idea on why the 'Plumes' moniker? Any particular meaning, allusion or association there?

Originally Posted by Winston Psmith
My one complaint with all the demo videos I see, particularly for Dirt pedals, is that everyone is plugged into an Amp that's already just on the edge of distortion!?!?! I tend to run my Amp clean, and add Drive with Drive pedals. Is that so wrong?

I know what you mean, Winston. It would give a much better idea of just what such a pedal sounds like if run into a tight, clean, clear amp with a lot of headroom. Though I do tend to run such pedalry into a tube-amp that's dialed-up to give me clean to overdrive to distortion as I roll my guitar's volume up and down and vary my "touch".


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Re: cool new effects [Re: hurricane hugo] #3006446 09/04/19 06:12 AM
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FWIW, that’s sorta how I initiate an evaluation of a new pedal: usually in isolation on a clean amp at low to moderate volume.


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Re: cool new effects [Re: hurricane hugo] #3006545 09/04/19 06:37 PM
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@Caevan - No idea about the name? They already make a sort of Super-808 clone called the Palisades, and a smaller version of it called the Dunes? OTOH, EQD seem to enjoy picking odd names for their pedals.

I was intrigued by the low price and the conflicting promo copy from EQD, but having heard it, I don't hear anything I'm not going to get from my Walrus Warhorn.

@Dannyalcatraz - The cranked Amp issue really bothers me. Like you, I test a new pedal by plugging into an Amp on a clean setting, particularly a new Dirt pedal. Almost anything is going to sound fat and warm through a hot Tube Amp.


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Re: cool new effects [Re: Winston Psmith] #3006574 09/04/19 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Winston Psmith
...having heard it, I don't hear anything I'm not going to get from my Walrus Warhorn.

I thought of your Warrhorn overdrive-pedal, as well; I forgot to mention that above...

Originally Posted by Winston Psmith
@Dannyalcatraz - The cranked Amp issue really bothers me. Like you, I test a new pedal by plugging into an Amp on a clean setting, particularly a new Dirt pedal. Almost anything is going to sound fat and warm through a hot Tube Amp.
Here's to that! rawk grin That is, while I will initially test-drive a pedal "in isolation on a clean amp at low to moderate volume", once passing that muster, I proceed directly to further evaluation and experimentation with, before or after, an overdriven/distorted tube-amp and/or overdrive/distortion/fuzz/octave-fuzz pedals. I absolutely love LOVE love the way that can so fatten and warm things up! Then come forays of feedback, from subtle shades of harmonic-overtones to singing notes through to sirens, screams and torrential squalls... But I digress. hand


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Re: cool new effects [Re: Winston Psmith] #3006580 09/04/19 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Winston Psmith
My one complaint with all the demo videos I see, particularly for Dirt pedals, is that everyone is plugged into an Amp that's already just on the edge of distortion!?!?! I tend to run my Amp clean, and add Drive with Drive pedals. Is that so wrong?


Same thing with guitar demos. An overdriven tone tells me zero about the guitar's inherent sound, & everything about some pedal that I 100% for sure do not have in my collection. The only guitar demo which imparts any useful information to me is hearing absolutely clean tones through a clean amp. Big pet peeve of mine.


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Some lead players like that distorted or at least overdriven sound on full time with their amp and never go back to full on clean. For me, I like it clean and then you can always add dirt (and even more dirt), and be able to go back to clean. Having an amp and pedal in the dirt modes messes up a good clean rhythm guitar sound when playing chords IMHO. Metal guys can get by with 5 chords but that's about it using dirt. When looking at demos or using the pedals, I like to see what the pedal can do when it is stomped in and what the amp can sound like without it. One thing l like about using good dirt pedals, is that you can add OD and Distortion at low volume levels with less noise. cool


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Re: cool new effects [Re: hurricane hugo] #3014187 10/30/19 12:04 AM
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I'd like to put this side by side with Radial's pedal of this type:


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As somebody who tends to dislike almost every overdrive pedal I've heard demoed on YouTube, I have to say I liked every sound this pedal put out. That's an incredible amount of great sounds for a non-menu driven box. Very impressive.


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Originally Posted by Scott Fraser
As somebody who tends to dislike almost every overdrive pedal I've heard demoed on YouTube, I have to say I liked every sound this pedal put out. That's an incredible amount of great sounds for a non-menu driven box. Very impressive.

Apropos only of your statement, and not the video you’re reacting to, I just HAD to post this...

”fuck overdrive. that’s how i used to feel and exactly the reason why i built this pedal. tired of the countless similar-sounding pedals on the market, i wanted something new; something unique.”
( From: https://www.smallsoundbigsound.com/products/fuck-overdrive/ )


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That right there is a pretty good example of what I'm talking about.


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Originally Posted by Scott Fraser
That right there is a pretty good example of what I'm talking about.

As in dislike? I understand.


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Originally Posted by Dannyalcatraz
Originally Posted by Scott Fraser
That right there is a pretty good example of what I'm talking about.

As in dislike? I understand.


Yeah, whenever that threshold knob goes clockwise it just turns to ugly mush. Seems there's a big trend now to obliterate the dynamics & "guitarness" of the signal with circuits which produce a nasty square wave synth-like sound. Not into that at all. I grew up on a steady diet of Gilmour, Page, Clapton, Beck, etc & those guys, even Hendrix, were never anywhere as overdriven as what I'm hearing now. Thus their dynamics & touch always comes through. And that's what I'm hearing with the Iridium pedal, the essential Strat sound is there, even at the highest gain, & even though compressed, it still breathes.


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This one has been out for a while now, but I hadn't really been looking at Boss effects for a while, so I passed it right by. Probably would have missed it altogether, if I hadn't picked up a small Boss MFX (GT-1) for a compact live rig.

It's not a conventional Delay. You can't set it to milliseconds, and there's no Tap Tempo, so forget your BPM Charts. Overall, this is an Ambient effect. You can dial it back somewhat, to get shorter, Reverb-like sounds, but turn it up and you get dense washes of echoes, like the tide coming in. The filter effect reminds me of the opening chords to U2's "Mysterious Ways," and it's dynamics-driven, so the harder you hit, the more prominent it becomes.

One VERY cool feature - when you engage the Freeze effect, the Delay effect is still on as well, so you don't suddenly have a Dry signal with the Freeze effect behind you.

Just for the hell of it, I tried running a Teenage Engineering Pocket Operator through it, then my Korg Monologue; it made both of them sound like Synth choirs. If you get one, don't limit yourself to using it with Guitar.

I still haven't committed to buying the TE-2 pedal itself, but soon. It's the first Boss effect that's intrigued, much less impressed me in a very long time.



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Originally Posted by hurricane hugo
I'd like to put this (Strymon IRIDIUM) side by side with Radial's pedal of this type...

I don't know if Radial, or anyone else, even has a pedal of this type; overall, it's quite unique. There are "direct box" devices and pedals- most of which rely on YOUR existing tube-amp, SANSAMP-style analog amp-sims and digital modelers and multi-effects, cab-sim devices and pedals, ambience and reverb pedals- but a single pedal that does THIS degree of extremely detailed multi-stage modeling of tube amps, speaker and cab Impulse Response, room reverb simulation, all in one box is pretty unique, isn't it?

In any case, I think I like it- the Strymon IRIDIUM, that is- and that it would be a wonderful avenue to both headphones and DI to PA and monitors, without having to include a real-live tube-amp AND reactive-load (or mic) AND DI/balanced-output device. I bet it'd play very nicely along with my other pedals, particularly various octave-fuzzes and fuzzes before it, tape-flavored echo and reverb and tremolo and Leslie-sim after it... Throw in my Sustainiac Model C acoustic-feedback generator for an INCREDIBLE degree of added realism... !

Originally Posted by Winston Psmith
This one (Boss TE-2 Terra Echo) has been out for a while now, but I hadn't really been looking at Boss effects for a while, so I passed it right by. Probably would have missed it altogether, if I hadn't picked up a small Boss MFX (GT-1) for a compact live rig.

It's not a conventional Delay. You can't set it to milliseconds, and there's no Tap Tempo, so forget your BPM Charts. Overall, this is an Ambient effect. You can dial it back somewhat, to get shorter, Reverb-like sounds, but turn it up and you get dense washes of echoes, like the tide coming in. The filter effect reminds me of the opening chords to U2's "Mysterious Ways," and it's dynamics-driven, so the harder you hit, the more prominent it becomes.

One VERY cool feature - when you engage the Freeze effect, the Delay effect is still on as well, so you don't suddenly have a Dry signal with the Freeze effect behind you.

Just for the hell of it, I tried running a Teenage Engineering Pocket Operator through it, then my Korg Monologue; it made both of them sound like Synth choirs. If you get one, don't limit yourself to using it with Guitar.

I still haven't committed to buying the TE-2 pedal itself, but soon. It's the first Boss effect that's intrigued, much less impressed me in a very long time.


Very nice sounds and features!


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Now, i'm just going to leave this here...



I absolutely love LOVE love the available simultaneous combination of various TRREMMEMMO0LL0OLLO0-like Wave Shapes, Envelope-Triggered Sweep, and Expression-Pedal controlled Sweep, commencing at 7:06 there...


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