Music Player Network
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Cover better than the original?
#3000962 07/29/19 11:49 PM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
OP Offline
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
Title says it all.

My (first) nomination: Joe Cocker's version of the Letter.



dB

Sound, Studio, and Stage Island
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3000966 07/30/19 12:21 AM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 8
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 8
Growing up in the 1980’s i heard more cover songs then the originals, because i was either too young or wasn’t born yet. I heard Venus by Bananarama, before I heard Shocking Blue’s original. No Doubt’s cover of it’s my life. Originally by Talk Talk. 10,000 Maniacs Because the Night. Originally Patti Smith. Gloria Estefan Turn the Beat around. Vicki Sue Robinson, Original. Even Everlasting Love Originally Carl Carlton.

There are two Beatles Songs that i liked the cover of. Here comes the Sun, covered by Richie Havens, and A little help from my friends Joe Cocker. These two songs I heard by the Beatles Originally, even though the had broken up before i was born.

A cover song for me works when the tempo is changed, or the instruments, this is just my opinion.

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3000967 07/30/19 12:23 AM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 8
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 8

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001041 07/30/19 02:32 PM
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Tom Jones' version of Ben E Kings "I (Who Have Nothing)"


Bob "Notes" Norton
Owner, Norton Music http://www.nortonmusic.com
Style and Fake disks for Band-in-a-Box
The Sophisticats http://www.s-cats.com >^. .^< >^. .^<
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001045 07/30/19 02:51 PM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
OP Offline
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
Blinded By The Light. Manfred Mann version better than Springsteen version.
There. I've said it. saber

dB

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001057 07/30/19 04:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
to paraphrase you, brother dB, what constitutes "better"? smile

certainly the Manford Mann version was more commmercially sucessfull and launched millions of bong hits, but never in a thousand years could they have penned that tune


that was then and this is now
Re: Cover better than the original?
Paul Kondig #3001058 07/30/19 04:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
Originally Posted by paulkondig
10,000 Maniacs Because the Night. Originally Patti Smith.



sung by Patti Smith, written by Patti Smith and Bruce Springsteen


that was then and this is now
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001061 07/30/19 04:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
during the late 1980's early 1990's I preferred Siouxsie and the Banshees cover of The Beatle's "Dear Prudence" over the original. Don't know if I feel the same way today

still prefer Joe Cocker's cover of "A Little Help From My Friends" over the original

for me it's where I am in place and time as to what my preference is


that was then and this is now
Re: Cover better than the original?
Doerfler #3001066 07/30/19 04:48 PM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
OP Offline
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
Originally Posted by davedoerfler
to paraphrase you, brother dB, what constitutes "better"? smile

More likable to whoever is posting. Hence the thread title. poke

Quote
certainly the Manford Mann version was more commmercially sucessfull and launched millions of bong hits, but never in a thousand years could they have penned that tune

Oh, hell no.

Okay, here's another one. Most people know the Blue Suede version of Hooked On A Feeling...but how many know the original version by B.J. Thomas?



(I feel that) the Blue Suede version is WAY better.

dB

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001069 07/30/19 05:09 PM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,008
Likes: 62
Bannination Free Since '08
10k Club
Offline
Bannination Free Since '08
10k Club
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,008
Likes: 62
Originally Posted by Dave Bryce
Blinded By The Light. Manfred Mann version better than Springsteen version.
There. I've said it. saber

dB


I Came for You, as well.


Dan

Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth.
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001087 07/30/19 07:01 PM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 8
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 8
Originally Posted by Dave Bryce
Originally Posted by davedoerfler
to paraphrase you, brother dB, what constitutes "better"? smile

More likable to whoever is posting. Hence the thread title. poke


Yea, lets go with that!

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001093 07/30/19 08:07 PM
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26


Best,

Geoff


My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001094 07/30/19 08:15 PM
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26


Here's the original:



Best,

Geoff


My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001095 07/30/19 08:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26


Best,

Geoff


My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon
1 member likes this: Dave Bryce
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001096 07/30/19 08:21 PM
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
It's a toss up between this version and the Rolling Stones original for me. Apples and oranges, I guess. Either way, I'm grateful for both fruits.



Best,

Geoff


My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon
Re: Cover better than the original?
Geoff Grace #3001106 07/30/19 09:36 PM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
OP Offline
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
Originally Posted by Geoff Grace

I might argue in favor of Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy as well.

dB

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001107 07/30/19 09:39 PM
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 141
Likes: 2
D
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
D
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 141
Likes: 2
How about the other way ... songs you first heard as covers and only heard the original versions later on?

Twist & Shout
Piece o’ my Heart
Time is on My Side
You Ain’t Nothin But a Hound Dog

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001124 07/31/19 12:28 AM
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26


And the original:



Best,

Geoff


My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001125 07/31/19 12:33 AM
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
Originally Posted by Dave Bryce

I might argue in favor of Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy as well.

thu

Best,

Geoff


My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001126 07/31/19 12:41 AM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 612
Likes: 17
MPN Advisory Board
Gold Member
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
Gold Member
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 612
Likes: 17

Not bad for a bunch of guys old enough to have heard the original, or at least Ricky Nelson's version.

Before




After


Re: Cover better than the original?
Mike Rivers #3001129 07/31/19 01:09 AM
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 364
Likes: 7
M
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
M
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 364
Likes: 7
Joe Cocker's version of She Came in Through the Bathroom Window is similar to the Beatles' original, but I like Cocker's version a little better.


Joe
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001130 07/31/19 01:12 AM
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 364
Likes: 7
M
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
M
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 364
Likes: 7
I also like Joe Cocker's version of Feelin' Alright somewhat better than Traffic's


Joe
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001133 07/31/19 01:16 AM
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 364
Likes: 7
M
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
M
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 364
Likes: 7
These two versions of Got To Get You Into My Life are so very different and so great in their own way



Joe
Re: Cover better than the original?
Geoff Grace #3001136 07/31/19 01:19 AM
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 141
Likes: 2
D
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
D
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 141
Likes: 2
Hey Geoff. Thanks for illustrating my point. Both of these renditions of Cloudburst are covers 😉


Well ok, Jon Lambert wrote lyrics to a jazz tune so maybe it’s only half a cover.

For those who don’t know about Lambert, Hendrix and Ross please take a minute to go listen to check out this video. In this tune the middle section is a note for note transcription of Lester Young’s sax solo but now with lyrics. I can’t even read the lyrics as fast as Jon is singing them. This is one of my all time favorite performances.

Last edited by dboomer; 07/31/19 01:44 AM.
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001141 07/31/19 02:33 AM
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
My apologies, dboomer.

I believe the Lambert, Hendrix and Ross rendition was at least the original vocal version, FWIW. Please correct me if I'm wrong (again).

This should be the original version, then (Source):



Best,

Geoff


My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001147 07/31/19 04:21 AM
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 3,014
Likes: 3
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 3,014
Likes: 3

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001150 07/31/19 05:11 AM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
Originally Posted by Dave Bryce
Title says it all.

My (first) nomination: Joe Cocker's version of the Letter.
dB


love that version. I'll raise the bar. TTB version of The Letter. If you havent seen TTB live, you must do so at the next available opportunity. It's mandatory. cop



that was then and this is now
Re: Cover better than the original?
Doerfler #3001160 07/31/19 01:54 PM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
OP Offline
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
Originally Posted by davedoerfler
. I'll raise the bar. TTB version of The Letter.



Now we're into a whole different thing - ownage.

To me, that vid is basically TTB doing the Mad Dogs and Englishmen version. Joe Cocker, OTOH, reworked the tune and made it his own.

Don't get me wrong - the TTB version rocks in a big way...but I'm not sure it raises the bar because they're just going to the same place Cocker did. Can't say I blame them at all, mind you - it's a pretty damn fun place, and that band is about as perfect for going there as it gets.

dB

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001163 07/31/19 02:35 PM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 252
Likes: 3
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 252
Likes: 3
The first one comes to mind for me is Love Hurts. I've heard older versions of it but I don't even recall who originally did it and don't have time to look it up now. The Nazareth version is amazing to my ears.

Re: Cover better than the original?
Greg Mein #3001165 07/31/19 02:44 PM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 8
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 8
Originally Posted by ggm1960
The first one comes to mind for me is Love Hurts. I've heard older versions of it but I don't even recall who originally did it and don't have time to look it up now. The Nazareth version is amazing to my ears.



The Everly Brothers 1960 released in 1961.

Yea, I looked it up.


Last edited by paulkondig; 07/31/19 02:47 PM. Reason: Added a video
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001166 07/31/19 02:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
Originally Posted by Dave Bryce
Joe Cocker, OTOH, reworked the tune and made it his own.


point taken


that was then and this is now
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001229 07/31/19 09:14 PM
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Otis Redding's version of the jazz standard, "Try A Little Tenderness".

The Byrds cover of Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man".


Bob "Notes" Norton
Owner, Norton Music http://www.nortonmusic.com
Style and Fake disks for Band-in-a-Box
The Sophisticats http://www.s-cats.com >^. .^< >^. .^<
Re: Cover better than the original?
J. Dan #3001254 07/31/19 11:04 PM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 13,150
Likes: 33
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 13,150
Likes: 33
Originally Posted by J. Dan
Originally Posted by Dave Bryce
Blinded By The Light. Manfred Mann version better than Springsteen version.
There. I've said it. saber

dB


I Came for You, as well.


Mighty Quinn done first by Manfred Mann, then reimagined and released again by Manfred Mann's Earth Band. That is the version I like best.


Last edited by RABid; 07/31/19 11:16 PM.

This post edited for speling.
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001259 07/31/19 11:12 PM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 13,150
Likes: 33
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 13,150
Likes: 33
Eli's Coming, written and released by Laura Nyro in 1967, then covered by Three Dog Night in 1969.



This post edited for speling.
Re: Cover better than the original?
RABid #3001280 08/01/19 01:17 AM
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 364
Likes: 7
M
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
M
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 364
Likes: 7
Originally Posted by RABid
Eli's Coming, written and released by Laura Nyro in 1967, then covered by Three Dog Night in 1969.



Maynard Ferguson also did a great cover of Eli's Comin'

Last edited by Math&Music; 08/01/19 01:18 AM.

Joe
Re: Cover better than the original?
RABid #3001289 08/01/19 01:42 AM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
OP Offline
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
Originally Posted by RABid
Eli's Coming, written and released by Laura Nyro in 1967, then covered by Three Dog Night in 1969.


+1.

dB

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001291 08/01/19 02:05 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 429
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 429
Great version of Taxman by Joe Bonamassa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgaM43KCqT4

Re: Cover better than the original?
Paul Kondig #3001306 08/01/19 02:53 AM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 252
Likes: 3
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 252
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by paulkondig
Originally Posted by ggm1960
The first one comes to mind for me is Love Hurts. I've heard older versions of it but I don't even recall who originally did it and don't have time to look it up now. The Nazareth version is amazing to my ears.



The Everly Brothers 1960 released in 1961.

Yea, I looked it up.



Wow yeah, goes back to when I was born. No doubt I'd heard the Nazareth version before I even knew it was a cover, the Hair of the Dog album was one of the great ones from my high school years. The gravely voice and delivery along with the eerie ebow lead section just really seem to give the song an authenticity I don't feel listening to the original or any other cover of it.

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001415 08/01/19 08:25 PM
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
I like Aretha Franklin's version of "Respect" better than the original Otis Redding, but I still like Otis' version a lot

Aretha's version of "The Weight" is IMHO better than The Band's

I Like Mark Murphy's version of Michael Franks' "Satisfaction Guaranteed" a lot better

Jimi Hendrix's cover of Dylan's "All Along The Watchtower"

Elvis Presley's version of "Blue Suede Shoes" originally by Carl Perkins

I think Janis Joplin did a better job than Roger Miller's first recording of Kris Kristofferson's "Me And Bobby McGee"

I like Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young's version of Joni Mitchell's "Woodstock" better

Johnny Rivers' version of Chuck Berry's "Memphis" IMHO is way better

I like Santana's version of "Black Magic Woman" even better than the very fine Peter Green/Fleetwood Mack take

Vanilla Fudge: "You Keep Me Hanging On", "Season Of The Witch", "Ticket To Ride", and "People Get Ready" (I like the over-the top re-arrangements, but I still like the originals just fine)


Bob "Notes" Norton
Owner, Norton Music http://www.nortonmusic.com
Style and Fake disks for Band-in-a-Box
The Sophisticats http://www.s-cats.com >^. .^< >^. .^<
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001524 08/02/19 02:36 PM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,361
Likes: 15
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,361
Likes: 15


Mainly because of Marissa's over the top lead guitar

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001685 08/03/19 06:46 PM
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Erma Franklin did a nice job of "Piece Of My Heart", but I like Janis Joplin's version better.

IMHO Stan Getz and Charlie Byrd did the definitive version of A.C. Jobim's "One Note Samba"

"You Go To My Head" was first recorded by Larry Clinton & His Orchestra and two very different versions are my favorite, Frank Sinatra's smoky and moody and Mark Murphy's fusion jazz take on it.


Bob "Notes" Norton
Owner, Norton Music http://www.nortonmusic.com
Style and Fake disks for Band-in-a-Box
The Sophisticats http://www.s-cats.com >^. .^< >^. .^<
Re: Cover better than the original?
RABid #3001686 08/03/19 06:54 PM
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 68
BMD Offline
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 68
Just about any Bob Dylan song

Re: Cover better than the original?
Notes_Norton #3001745 08/04/19 03:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 21,641
Likes: 95
Triple Secret Banninated
20k Club
Offline
Triple Secret Banninated
20k Club
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 21,641
Likes: 95
Originally Posted by Notes_Norton
Erma Franklin did a nice job of "Piece Of My Heart", but I like Janis Joplin's version better.

Erma's version was the original. So you got it right for the subject of this thread!


The great thing about music is that there's always something to learn. The frustrating thing about music is that there's always something to learn!
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001884 08/05/19 05:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,654
Likes: 29
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,654
Likes: 29
Paul Shaffer's arrangements (transcriptions?) for the Blues Brothers were generally more pleasing to my ears than the originals, perhaps in part due to better sound reproduction. Specific examples would be Gimme Some Lovin' and Soul Man.


-Tom Williams
<First name><At>AirNetworking<dot>com
PC361, PX-5S, AX-Edge
M-Audio Keystation 88, Axiom 61
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3001899 08/05/19 07:27 PM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,361
Likes: 15
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,361
Likes: 15
I just remembered this Flaming Lips cover. I still like the original because of nostalgia (last year of junior high) but I do dig this one enough to consider equal, if not "better".


Re: Cover better than the original?
BMD #3001966 08/06/19 04:53 AM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
OP Offline
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
Originally Posted by BMD
Just about any Bob Dylan song

+1000.

dB

Re: Cover better than the original?
GovernorSilver #3001967 08/06/19 04:58 AM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
OP Offline
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
Originally Posted by GovernorSilver


Mainly because of Marissa's over the top lead guitar

Patti Smith vibe with nasty guitars. I like the way Natalie Merchant did it more - she made it a bit more her own.

Why does no one who covers this song play the piano part correctly? It starts on the C#, not the root B.

....and WAY too much buss compression on this version. wall

dB

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3002002 08/06/19 02:42 PM
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Blood, Sweat & Tears version of "God Bless The Child"


Bob "Notes" Norton
Owner, Norton Music http://www.nortonmusic.com
Style and Fake disks for Band-in-a-Box
The Sophisticats http://www.s-cats.com >^. .^< >^. .^<
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3002006 08/06/19 03:27 PM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 252
Likes: 3
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 252
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by Dave Bryce
Originally Posted by GovernorSilver


Mainly because of Marissa's over the top lead guitar

Patti Smith vibe with nasty guitars. I like the way Natalie Merchant did it more - she made it a bit more her own.

Why does no one who covers this song play the piano part correctly? It starts on the C#, not the root B.

....and WAY too much buss compression on this version. wall

dB


That's interesting, my wife and I have been wanting to add this to our duo list. She's a good sight reader and downloaded the sheet music. I'm curious to look at that when I get home now!

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3002027 08/06/19 05:15 PM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,361
Likes: 15
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,361
Likes: 15
Originally Posted by Dave Bryce


Why does no one who covers this song play the piano part correctly? It starts on the C#, not the root B.

....and WAY too much buss compression on this version. wall

dB


Interesting! Will have another listen to the Patti Smith original.

This piano problem reminds me of the "extra guitar note" problem in covers of "Cissy Strut" by The Meters. Almost everybody, including well-known pros, plays the 2nd section of the guitar melody wrong, by adding at least one extra note. I learned this while listening to an interview with Meters bassist George Porter Jr.

Re: Cover better than the original?
GovernorSilver #3002042 08/06/19 06:14 PM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
OP Offline
4x KCFFL Champ
20k Club
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 21,708
Likes: 296
Originally Posted by GovernorSilver
[Interesting! Will have another listen to the Patti Smith original.


Patti version. Form takes it's time evolving...takes a while to get to the F#, and double as long to get to the octaved B at the end of the form.
C#, D, B, D, C#, D, E, D, C#, D, B, D, C#, D, F#, D, C#, D, B, D, C#, D, E, D, C#, D, B, D, C#, D, B (8va), D



Natalie version. Much more intricate form, but shorter. F# shows up right away, and the octaved B shortly after. E turn omitted entirely.
B, D, C#, D, F#, D, C#, D, B, D, C#, D, B (8va), D, C#, D


The Garbage one is doing it a third way! More like Patti's version, but shorte like Natalie, so no E turn...and no octaved B.
B, D, C#, D, B, D, C#, D,B, D, C#, D, F#, D, C#, D.

dB

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3002043 08/06/19 06:32 PM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,361
Likes: 15
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,361
Likes: 15
Sting was reportedly "Driven To Tears" by this one. The stripped down arrangement lends itself to the more emotionally raw performance.



Her cover of the Pete Seeger classic replaces the usual folksy vibe with more of a "take you to church" gospel feel.


Last edited by GovernorSilver; 08/06/19 06:49 PM.
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3002069 08/06/19 09:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,387
Likes: 34
MPN Advisory Board
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,387
Likes: 34
Wow. No one's mentioned Ray Charles' version of "I Can't Stop Loving You", over Don Gibson.
An obscure personal fav is Dorothy Moore's "He Thinks I Still Care" over George Jones


"What's the point of living longer if you have to give up everything that makes life worth living to do so?"
Einstein (supposedly)

www.stevenathanmusic.com
https://apple.co/2EGpYXK
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3002073 08/06/19 10:03 PM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 13,150
Likes: 33
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 13,150
Likes: 33
Financially, the greatest remake may be Dolly Parton's "I Will Always Love You", later done by Whitney Houston. One of my favorite entertainer interviews was Dolly Parton talking about the song. Elvis Presley wanted to record the song but his manager insisted that Dolly sign over half of the song writer royalties. She refused. When Whitney Houston recorded the song, according to the Dolly interview, "When Whitney recorded it I made enough in royalties on that song to BUY the Elvis catalog."


This post edited for speling.
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3002184 08/07/19 06:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
With the 50th anniversary of Woodstock just around the corner, it seems fitting to add The Who's performance there of "Summertime Blues."



Best,

Geoff


My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon
Re: Cover better than the original?
Geoff Grace #3002216 08/08/19 12:32 AM
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Originally Posted by Geoff Grace
With the 50th anniversary of Woodstock just around the corner, it seems fitting to add The Who's performance there of "Summertime Blues."



Best,

Geoff

I like the Eddie Cochran version better because The Who's version, although musically superior, left out the punch lines at the end of each verse (Example; you can't use the care 'cause you didn't work a lick)

Notes


Bob "Notes" Norton
Owner, Norton Music http://www.nortonmusic.com
Style and Fake disks for Band-in-a-Box
The Sophisticats http://www.s-cats.com >^. .^< >^. .^<
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3002345 08/08/19 07:17 PM
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 68
BMD Offline
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 68
I'm quite fond of this cover that Craig did of one of my tunes

It's completely different from the original and all the better for it, I think



Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3002423 08/09/19 01:24 AM
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Word has it by people who saw a Leon Russel concert in the late 1970s (I didn't go, I was gigging) that Leon introduced "This Masquerade" by saying something like "With apologies to George Benson."

Yep, Mr. Benson did a better cover than the original.

Notes


Bob "Notes" Norton
Owner, Norton Music http://www.nortonmusic.com
Style and Fake disks for Band-in-a-Box
The Sophisticats http://www.s-cats.com >^. .^< >^. .^<
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3002517 08/09/19 05:45 PM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,361
Likes: 15
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,361
Likes: 15
Forgot about the Russian Police Choir's covers




Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3002596 08/10/19 01:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 6
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 6
Alanis Morissette's original studio version of "You Oughta Know" had an almost spastic quality to it, and as a result I can't feel what she is describing :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPcyTyilmYY

Her remake from "Jagged Little Pill Acoustic" has a more centered delivery that realizes the full potential of this composition, and lets me really feel it. When she cries out "It's not fair!" it just reaches right into me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TUnVtu_JIk

Re: Cover better than the original?
Notes_Norton #3002599 08/10/19 01:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 6
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 6
Go to 2:00 to see Melissa Etheridge steal "Piece of My Heart" for all eternity, while recovering from chemo:
Don't miss Melissa's scream at 4:25.
Janis and Roger Daltry, eat your heart out.

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3002600 08/10/19 02:06 PM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 6
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 6
And now for something completely different. The original version of "We've Only Just Begun", as a TV commercial:


After Richard saw the TV ad, he called the composer to ask about Carpenters doing their own version.
Richard really knew how to make great arrangements, and my gosh what a voice she had:


Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3003414 08/15/19 08:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11,649
Likes: 26
I just heard this today. Kind of fun:



Best,

Geoff


My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3004372 08/21/19 05:41 PM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 6
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 6
That was cool.

A separate comment, not related to the quality of the performance: I found it amusing watching the lead singer keep his head and mouth perfectly positioned for the mic even while moving the rest of his body around, something only a seasoned studio singer would do properly. His facial hair created an impression of the head appearing large for the person's body, and in combination with his checkerboard shirt, and the head remaining mostly still while the body moved, it created a weird effect as if someone has substituted someone else's head over the person's body in the video.

Re: Cover better than the original?
harmonizer #3004581 08/22/19 07:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
Always like this version better, maybe because the fantastic original version is overplayed smile



that was then and this is now
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3004637 08/23/19 04:19 AM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 6
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 6
I like it. I especially like the bass part.

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3004688 08/23/19 04:02 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 6,241
Likes: 53
T
MPN Advisory Board
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
MP Hall of Fame Member
T
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 6,241
Likes: 53
Do I get bonus points for bringing up Kevin Gilbert's version of Led Zep "Kashmir"?



Helmut Lotti does a live cover of Bohemian Rhapsody, including the opera section (!) When I hear those singers pulling that off it brings a tear to my eye.


Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3004735 08/23/19 07:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,776
Likes: 10
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,776
Likes: 10
yes, you get extra points for bringing up Kevin Gilbert! Great stuff. RIP.


"Am I enough of a freak to be worth paying to see?"- Separated Out (Marillion)
NEW band Old band
1 member likes this: Dave Bryce
Re: Cover better than the original?
The Real MC #3004754 08/23/19 10:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 14
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 14
Originally Posted by The Real MC
Do I get bonus points for bringing up Kevin Gilbert's version of Led Zep "Kashmir"?



I like this version of Kashmir too:


Operations Manager
Transamerica Audio Group
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3004882 08/24/19 11:53 PM
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Mark Murphy's version of Joni Mitchell's version of Charles Mingus' "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat"


Last edited by Notes_Norton; 08/26/19 06:48 PM.

Bob "Notes" Norton
Owner, Norton Music http://www.nortonmusic.com
Style and Fake disks for Band-in-a-Box
The Sophisticats http://www.s-cats.com >^. .^< >^. .^<
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3005164 08/26/19 06:55 PM
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 390
Likes: 15
Buddy Greco's verson of Rodger's & Hart's "The Lady Is A Tramp" originally recorded by Tommy Dorsey and His Orchestra (featuring Edythe Wright on vocals). Buddy sings and plays the piano on this one, and IMO not only sings it wonderfully, also accompanies himself grandly.



Bob "Notes" Norton
Owner, Norton Music http://www.nortonmusic.com
Style and Fake disks for Band-in-a-Box
The Sophisticats http://www.s-cats.com >^. .^< >^. .^<
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3005338 08/27/19 06:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 14
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 14
The first time I came to Las Vegas, probably early Nineties, I saw Buddy Greco. He was playing one of the bar lounges at, I think, the Flamingo. Just a 3 piece. Pretty cool. It was after we saw Wayne Newton at the Hilton theater.


Operations Manager
Transamerica Audio Group
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3059385 08/22/20 05:47 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
well, this is a cover of a cover of the origional. TTB doing a Beatles song Joe Cocker style from the "Mad Dogs and Englishmen" era.



that was then and this is now
Re: Cover better than the original?
Doerfler #3059386 08/22/20 05:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 846
Likes: 18
Gold Member
Offline
Gold Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 846
Likes: 18
Originally Posted by davedoerfler
well, this is a cover of a cover of the origional. TTB doing a Beatles song Joe Cocker style from the "Mad Dogs and Englishmen" era.
Good one, Dave. A favorite.

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3059473 08/23/20 03:33 AM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,309
Likes: 12
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,309
Likes: 12
Donny Hathaway – Jealous Guy (John Lennon)


Not sure that I would say "better," but I love Stevie Wonder's version of "We Can Work It Out" as much, if not more, than the original Beatles version:


My Site
Nord Electro 5D, Novation Launchkey 61, Logic 9, Mainstage 2, Kontakt 5, AAS & Arturia stuff, fingers, pencil, paper.
1 member likes this: SamuelBLupowitz
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3060036 08/27/20 11:28 AM
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,203
Likes: 121
MPN Advisory Board
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,203
Likes: 121
Go'in in for the kill- maybe not "better" but we're talking 'bout covering the best of the very best.

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3060106 08/28/20 02:26 AM
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 1
G
Member
Offline
Member
G
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 1
boy did that bring back memories. Up here in Halifax Nova Scotia, back in the day, SRV played the Misty Moon a few times. The routine was for the band to setup and play Thur as a sound check with actual shows on Fri and Sat eve. There was usually an "open mike" session on Sat afternoon. Anyway, the story goes that on one of SRVs stops one sat session somebody put a chair on stage and guided a blind man (half lit, well into his cups) to the chair and placed a guitar in his hands. It was Jeff Healey. I fantasize about Jeff and SRV jamming to Little Wing. Somewhere out there is a bootleg copy of it in a basement, attic, or garage. One can only hope it finds the light of day.

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3060155 08/28/20 03:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 846
Likes: 18
Gold Member
Offline
Gold Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 846
Likes: 18
The Casey Abrams / Pomplamoose rendition of "I Want It That Way" is killer.

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3060429 08/31/20 02:29 AM
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 255
Likes: 25
P
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
P
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 255
Likes: 25

1 member likes this: SamuelBLupowitz
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3060477 08/31/20 05:14 PM
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 255
Likes: 25
P
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
P
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 255
Likes: 25
Maybe I shouldn't have posted that, because I don't think that cover takes anything away from the awesomeness of Willie's or BB's version. It's an electrifying performance though, from the monumental project "Rhythm, Country and Blues", that showcased how country and R&B are blood brothers- it's all just soul music.

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3060531 08/31/20 10:44 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
yeahthat

just purchased the cd, thanks for posting. Brother Steve Nathan plays on 3 tracks. thu


that was then and this is now
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3060548 09/01/20 01:14 AM
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 2,599
Likes: 193
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 2,599
Likes: 193
Bob Dylan's When I Paint My Masterpiece by The Band. Love the accordion!!!!
And the sangin'...



There is never enough time to be in a hurry...
1 member likes this: pinkfloydcramer
Re: Cover better than the original?
Doerfler #3060582 09/01/20 04:25 AM
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 255
Likes: 25
P
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
P
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 255
Likes: 25
Originally Posted by Doerfler
yeahthat

just purchased the cd, thanks for posting. Brother Steve Nathan plays on 3 tracks. thu

Welcome! That bass line is SOO badass, and the way it stays constant as the chords change. Then Billy Preston on the Wurli comes in and Reverend Al and Lyle Lovett playing off each other..I can't listen to that track too much. You can hear the inspiration all the way through that project, and the way the musicians were so psyched to be working on it- it deserves an entire KC thread, I think. I would love to read Steve Nathan's recollections of what took place.

Re: Cover better than the original?
Markyboard #3060639 09/01/20 03:09 PM
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 132
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 132
Originally Posted by Markyboard
Go'in in for the kill- maybe not "better" but we're talking 'bout covering the best of the very best.
I'd never heard the SRV cover before -- what a stellar tribute to Hendrix's playing (and Mitch Mitchell's, as well).

I see you, and I raise you the Derek and the Dominoes version!



I guess this version on YouTube is the "remastered" version -- sounds like a different mix to me, too? I don't remember the bass being panned left like that, or the two vocals panned so far apart, on the version of the record that I have. Anyway, I always feel Clapton is at his best when he has collaborators who push him, and it's hard to get better than Duane Allman trading guitar licks and Bobby Whitlock sharing the vocal.


Samuel B. Lupowitz
Composer. Arranger. Musician. Food Enthusiast. Bad Pun Aficionado.
Re: Cover better than the original?
pinkfloydcramer #3060645 09/01/20 03:25 PM
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 132
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 132
Originally Posted by pinkfloydcramer
Originally Posted by Doerfler
yeahthat

just purchased the cd, thanks for posting. Brother Steve Nathan plays on 3 tracks. thu

Welcome! That bass line is SOO badass, and the way it stays constant as the chords change. Then Billy Preston on the Wurli comes in and Reverend Al and Lyle Lovett playing off each other..I can't listen to that track too much. You can hear the inspiration all the way through that project, and the way the musicians were so psyched to be working on it- it deserves an entire KC thread, I think. I would love to read Steve Nathan's recollections of what took place.
Oof, count me in on that too. More than a few stellar keyboard players on the record -- in addition to Brother Steve and the aforementioned Billy Preston, we've got Benmont Tench, Barry Beckett, and, um, Allen Toussaint? The rest of the session players aren't exactly nobodies either...

Looks like the killer bassline on that tune is played by Hutch Hutchinson, of Bonnie Raitt fame. He's really laying it down. Also in good company on other tracks!


Samuel B. Lupowitz
Composer. Arranger. Musician. Food Enthusiast. Bad Pun Aficionado.
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3060652 09/01/20 04:21 PM
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 255
Likes: 25
P
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
P
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 255
Likes: 25
Matt Rollings played B3 on some tracks.

What struck me about most of the record, is how inspired the pairings were. BB and George Jones, Conway Twitty and Sam Moore, Vince Gill and Gladys Knight, Marty Stuart and the the Staples (their version of the Weight) and others. Tanya Tucker and Little Richard were an absolute hoot.

I believe passionately in the premise of that project. I have lived in both worlds, have played in bands that opened for Waylon and BB. Never met a non- Caucasion blues man who didn't love country. The first time I ever played "Today I Started Loving You Again" was while playing in the house band at a blues club.

Re: Cover better than the original?
pinkfloydcramer #3060682 09/01/20 06:29 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
10k Club
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,086
Likes: 129
Originally Posted by pinkfloydcramer
Matt Rollings played B3 on some tracks.

indeed, saw that

Originally Posted by pinkfloydcramer
Never met a non- Caucasion blues man who didn't love country.

sure worked for Ray Charles. thu


that was then and this is now
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3060815 09/02/20 01:58 PM
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 255
Likes: 25
P
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
P
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 255
Likes: 25
Somebody say ACCORDIAN?


Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3061078 09/03/20 10:10 PM
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 2,599
Likes: 193
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 2,599
Likes: 193
Seal and Jeff Beck covering Bob Dylan's LIke a Rolling Stone.

https://youtu.be/BSixn8MeN_s

[/quote]

Last edited by KuruPrionz; 09/03/20 10:12 PM.

There is never enough time to be in a hurry...
1 member likes this: Markyboard
Re: Cover better than the original?
SamuelBLupowitz #3061140 09/04/20 02:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,203
Likes: 121
MPN Advisory Board
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,203
Likes: 121
Originally Posted by SamuelBLupowitz
I see you, and I raise you the Derek and the Dominoes version!

I don't know what it is but I've just never been a Clapton fan. I know to say this is sacrilege although I acknowledge his talent, influence and originality. Maybe it's that every 2 bit guitarist in every bar band seems to want to imitate his style and it's grown tiring to me over the years?
idk

Btw I never heard that version of LW. Thanks for sharing Sam but nope, didn't change my mind.
Despite the stellar mix facepalm grin

Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3061153 09/04/20 03:15 PM
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 255
Likes: 25
P
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
P
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 255
Likes: 25
I love EC's music during the time he came to the US and hung out with Duane Allman and Delaney and Bonnie and others up to the 80's. He had some great songs. But his guitar playing on it's own never really impressed me much either, other than some of the early things like Crossroads.

Re: Cover better than the original?
Markyboard #3061165 09/04/20 03:59 PM
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 2,599
Likes: 193
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 2,599
Likes: 193
Originally Posted by Markyboard
Originally Posted by SamuelBLupowitz
I see you, and I raise you the Derek and the Dominoes version!

I don't know what it is but I've just never been a Clapton fan. I know to say this is sacrilege although I acknowledge his talent, influence and originality. Maybe it's that every 2 bit guitarist in every bar band seems to want to imitate his style and it's grown tiring to me over the years?
idk

Btw I never heard that version of LW. Thanks for sharing Sam but nope, didn't change my mind.
Despite the stellar mix facepalm grin

I'm with you on that. I like some of Clapton's music but I have no idea how the "Great British Guitarist Triumvirate" became Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck.
Jeff Beck can stay, he stands tall on his own mountain. Jimmy Page is a great producer and strummer but pretty much a sloppy hack on lead work. I know, Rory Gallagher is Irish. Ireland is part of the British Empire, no? What about Richie Blackmore, David Gilmore, John Renbourn, Allen Holdsworth, Steve Howe, Albert Lee (I could go on...).

Of course, if we open it up to the world and include guitarists besides rock guitarists then the list of guitarists who have staggering musical talent becomes pretty enormous.


There is never enough time to be in a hurry...
1 member likes this: Markyboard
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3061185 09/04/20 06:10 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 21,641
Likes: 95
Triple Secret Banninated
20k Club
Offline
Triple Secret Banninated
20k Club
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 21,641
Likes: 95
The graffiti was supposed to say, "Clapton is good."


The great thing about music is that there's always something to learn. The frustrating thing about music is that there's always something to learn!
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3061247 09/05/20 03:56 AM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 825
Likes: 15
Gold Member
Offline
Gold Member
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 825
Likes: 15
Manhattan Transfer - “Birdland”


Forte 7, Mojo 61, Reface CP/CS



Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3062649 09/15/20 09:47 PM
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 322
Likes: 1
S
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
S
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 322
Likes: 1
This:
my favourite cover after All Along the Watchtower

This one isn't necessarily better than the original but it's an invitation to discover one of the greatest unknown bands Klaatu



vs.


1 member likes this: Dave Bryce
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3062800 09/17/20 03:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,654
Likes: 29
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,654
Likes: 29
I would add George Benson's version of "On Broadway," and I think I prefer Chicago's version of "I'm a Man," although it may just be that I heard that version first.


-Tom Williams
<First name><At>AirNetworking<dot>com
PC361, PX-5S, AX-Edge
M-Audio Keystation 88, Axiom 61
1 member likes this: SamuelBLupowitz
Re: Cover better than the original?
BMD #3062805 09/17/20 06:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 9,300
Likes: 130
MPN Advisory Board
MP Hall of Fame Member
Offline
MPN Advisory Board
MP Hall of Fame Member
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 9,300
Likes: 130
Originally Posted by BMD
I'm quite fond of this cover that Craig did of one of my tunes

It's completely different from the original and all the better for it, I think


But this also relates to the Bob Dylan comments...yes, just about any Byrds version of a Dylan song is way better, BUT the covers wouldn't have existed without the originals. In the case of "Only Ever After You," I would put it in the "indestructible songs" category. You could do a death metal whaling song version, and it would still turn out OK smile

Re: Cover better than the original?
Joe Muscara #3062811 09/17/20 10:16 AM
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 132
Platinum Member
Offline
Platinum Member
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 132
Originally Posted by Joe Muscara
The graffiti was supposed to say, "Clapton is good."
"He's very talented!"

I wouldn't necessarily list Clapton as one of my favorites (he's definitely one of my dad's favorites, so I grew up with a lot of enthusiasm around him), but that Derek and the Dominoes record is definitely in my top ten. Even though I'd heard Layla one too many times by the time I listened to the whole record, hearing it in context made me experience it differently. Aren't albums fun?

Speaking of the "Great British Guitar Triumverate* (*Some Exclusions Apply)," does everyone know the story about the version of "You Shook Me" on the first Zeppelin album? Page produced essentially the same arrangement for Jeff Beck, then turned around and redid it with Zeppelin without saying anything to Beck first. Page must have been a hard guy to be friends with, at least during that era.

Also, I know he was doing the backstroke through a sea of heroin at the time and Plant and Jones were basically left to their own devices to write the album, but Page's solo on "Hot Dog" from In Through the Out Door is one of the worst guitar solos I've ever heard. It doesn't even sound like a first take, it sounds like a joke take he played because he knew they were just getting levels, and then he just said "good enough." Man, when that band was on, though...


Samuel B. Lupowitz
Composer. Arranger. Musician. Food Enthusiast. Bad Pun Aficionado.
Re: Cover better than the original?
Dave Bryce #3062830 09/17/20 04:45 PM
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 227
Likes: 10
N
Senior Member
Offline
Senior Member
N
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 227
Likes: 10
You can decide for youself....





nat

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4

Moderated by  Anderton 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4