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Mic choice, placement, preamp #2997949 07/10/19 03:09 AM
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If you had to rate mic choice, mic placement and preamp selection first to last in terms of achieving overall sound, what would it be for you?

I probably spend too much time moving mics around and not enough time choosing the right mic for the job. As far as preamps, I dont really own enough to be able to select that by flavor.

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Re: Mic choice, placement, preamp [Re: Dave Bryce] #2998059 07/10/19 06:53 PM
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While I certainly have much less recording experience than you, I would have to say that the answer would depend on WHAT you're mic'ing. Intuitively, I would have a different answer for vocals, vs a guitar cabinet vs a piano vs a drum set.


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Re: Mic choice, placement, preamp [Re: Dave Bryce] #2998111 07/11/19 02:36 AM
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For recording a real drum kit, or a guitarist who really know how to use his amp as an instrument, I consider mic placement as most important. For vocals, I rate mic choice as the top factor followed by the preamp.

Re: Mic choice, placement, preamp [Re: Dave Bryce] #2999859 07/23/19 01:25 AM
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Mic choice, then placement (pre-amp is a non-factor as I only use transparent ones vs. coloured ones: True Precision 8, augmented by the ones on RME Fireface series and Audient ADAT expander).

There are always exceptions. Close miking a guitar amp, I care deeply about the mic choice, but that isn't worth a hill of beans if I don't place the mic correctly. Similarly with some of the drum mics.

I moved away from modern condenser mics a few years ago, then bought some vintage tube mic tributes, which I use alongside ribbon mics, and for certain instruments some specialized dynamic mics.

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Re: Mic choice, placement, preamp [Re: Dave Bryce] #3000046 07/24/19 06:58 AM
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Dave, great question. I have a bit of a bias, given that I've spent the better part of the last 10 years designing and building microphones. But the reality is that the reason I chose mics rather than preamps is that I believe they are often the most important part of the signal chain in terms of determining what the track sounds like.

I'm assuming that the source and the room do not vary in this scenario. That is, given a single singer or guitar rig or drum kit in a single room, if you had to choose between mic, pre, converter, my ranking would be mic, then pre, then converter.

Placement IS critical, although in most cases, I'd rank that behind mic choice. Just to illustrate: a lot of home recording people have a closet full of "stupid deal of the day" condensers that tend to be bright and harsh sounding. There are not many placement tricks that would make those mics NOT sound bright and harsh. But you can put a better mic in just about ANY position and it will sound better than the harsh mic. Maybe that's less true on guitar cabs (to address Mark's point); I'm thinking of drums, vocals, acoustic guitars.

Needless to say, lousy placement can make a great mic sound awful. I have seen inexperienced artists "eat" a large-diaphragm condenser in a studio setting, and then wonder why the track doesn't sound good. "That's what works for me on stage!" Umm, your tongue shouldn't actually make contact with the mic's capsule during the take. #protip


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Re: Mic choice, placement, preamp [Re: matthew mcglynn] #3000445 07/26/19 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by matthew mcglynn
Umm, your tongue shouldn't actually make contact with the mic's capsule during the take. #protip

laugh thu


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