WesG Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Hey, Folks -- I migrated away from a CP4+VR09 to a single top board on top of the organ this year, an RD800, for Classic Rock duty. I am still playing the CP4 for Grateful Dead and piano-centric gigs. For the most part, the RD800 is a big step up. It took me a while to build a decent piano, but I have one now. The horns and strings kill the ones in the CP4, although some aren't quite as good as some of the ones in the VR09. The VR09 has a much better effects setup, which helps a lot. But the layering capability in the RD800, especially coupled with more pedals, really makes a difference. The synths in the RD800 are also not as good as the VR09, but "good enough"....I play mostly stuff like "Just What I Needed", pretty basic needs. What's got me perplexed is bell tones, for tunes like "Born To Run". I can't figure out how to make something with a good "ding" and "ring" ... that cuts through the mix...I had something in the CP4 based on Round Glocken that was absolutely killer...in fact, my old DGX-620 had a good Round Glocken patch, too. The best I've found on the RD800 is a bit too "thunk" than "ding" and not enough sustain....does that make sense? Anybody ever had this problem, and solved it without bringing more gear to the show? I wish this thing had a basic FM synth in it. Quote Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Wes Dan always used a Jenco Celeste. Is there a Celeste patch on there? Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesG Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 Thanks, Jason. There are a couple of Celesta patches in there I will tinker with shortly. I just listened to every Jenco Celeste video on YouTube. I think maybe knowing what the un-mixed instrument sounds like will make it a bit easier. I love the sustain and bite on these things. Quote Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Wes I should have showed this to you a couple months ago. It's a 1978 video and you can see Dan playing the celeste on top of the B-3 Console at the 1:10 mark. It was miced but I have heard that it might have had a pick up installed. They show up on E-bay but go for a lot of money. There is a tech in Rochester that fixes them though: [video:youtube] Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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