Mark Schmieder Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Agreed. We mostly differ in how we define melody, as I was taught in music history and music theory classes at conservatory, that the key defining characteristic of a melody is the beat and then the rhythmic motifs. But I understand what you're saying about African music in particular -- although I might argue that there is harmonic intermodulation going on. :-) Quote Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogut Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 If you think about it, zep was entering the height of their success when they recorded stairway. It would have been mighty sleezy of page to rip off another artist while he was at his peak success. Just strictly speaking of character. Quote -Greg Motif XS8, MOXF8, Hammond XK1c, Vent Rhodes Mark II 88 suitcase, Yamaha P255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
area51recording Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Zep was actually one of the more notorious bands when it came to, ahem, borrowing from original artists, whilst taking credit for the effort.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Small Faces, 1966, 3 years before Zep recorded Whole Lotta Love: [video:youtube] If you ever wondered who Robert Plant wished he could be, the answer was Steve Marriot. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogut Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Small Faces, 1966, 3 years before Zep recorded Whole Lotta Love: [video:youtube] If you ever wondered who Robert Plant wished he could be, the answer was Steve Marriot. mind blown! never heard that before Quote -Greg Motif XS8, MOXF8, Hammond XK1c, Vent Rhodes Mark II 88 suitcase, Yamaha P255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdAct Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Looks like Page and Plant will get their new day in court: Court agrees to listen to Led Zeppelin in Stairway appeal An "11-judge panel will hear the case in late September in San Francisco." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonizer Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Small Faces, 1966, 3 years before Zep recorded Whole Lotta Love: [video:youtube] .... If you just read the lyrics for both songs, why is the Zep version not a copyright violation just based on the lyrics? Put them up side by side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxcvbnm098 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 ISmall Faces, 1966, 3 years before Zep recorded Whole Lotta Love: [video:youtube] .... If you just read the lyrics for both songs, why is the Zep version not a copyright violation just based on the lyrics? Put them up side by side. It actually was. The Small Faces tune was actually a cover of a track done by Muddy Waters: Willie Dixon wrote the lyrics for Muddy, who sang them over an instrumental track already recorded by Earl Hooker. In 1985 Zep was sued for "nicking" the lyrics written by Willie. Out of court settlement in Willie's favor, which is why Willie Dixon is now credited as a co-writer on the Zeppelin tune - which is essentially a cover I suppose after hearing these previous versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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