J. Dan Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 A friend of mine who is a musician and booking agent posted this on Facebook: Theres a new trend happening in NYC, as a recent new club called Gateway is packing crowds every weekend. The catch? Its a sober bar, serving up herbal concoctions and other non alcoholic brews. This trend is also breaking loose in Silicon Valley, once known for its excesses rather than health kicks and sobriety. Its the new cool, as alcohol companies (especially beer makers) continue to see there sale plunge due to millennials higher interest in healthy living, and making experiences rather than lapses in memory. I'm just curious if some of you have seen this trend and/or have any predictions? Quote Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotiDave Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Not in the dirt floor dive bars I play in ... I dont think i play anything that one of those millennial herbal potion bars would want to hear. Quote The baiting I do is purely for entertainment value. Please feel free to ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphollis Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Yeah it's starting to be a thing. As far as music preferences, the quieter, acoustic and intricate stuff will probably play well. Don't think the dude at the back will be shouting "FREEBIRD!". The retiree clubs I'm playing are pretty close. Most don't drink. They are there for a night of fun music, a bit of dancing, and home early. Well, huge difference in age and musical genres. Quote Want to make your band better? Check out "A Guide To Starting (Or Improving!) Your Own Local Band" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyS Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Sure,,, my new band ( named On the Wagon btw) does Gimme 12 steps, gimme 12 steps misteras an encore,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin Funster Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Its one thing to abstain from alchohol because your liver is shot and your a recovering alchoholic, but to not drink because youre a health nut...thats just SICK. That attitude will ruin live music as we know it. Quote FunMachine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzzz Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Its one thing to abstain from alchohol because your liver is shot and your a recovering alchoholic, but to not drink because youre a health nut...thats just SICK. That attitude will ruin live music as we know it. They said the same thing after banning smoking in public places, including bars and restaurants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin Funster Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Its one thing to abstain from alchohol because your liver is shot and your a recovering alchoholic, but to not drink because youre a health nut...thats just SICK. That attitude will ruin live music as we know it. They said the same thing after banning smoking in public places, including bars and restaurants All the bars i play still have smoking. Its just on the back patio. Alot of weed getting smoked back there too. Quote FunMachine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonglow Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Smacks of a fad, but who knows... Alcohol lowers inhibitions, something of potential utility in a bar/nightclub situation where often an expressed interest is meeting/hooking up with someone. Quote "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotiDave Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Smacks of a fad, but who knows... Alcohol lowers inhibitions, something of potential utility in a bar/nightclub situation where often an expressed interest is meeting/hooking up with someone. Me too. Reminds me of the huka pipe bars, the compressed gas bars, the fondu bars, etc., that popped up in the last 20 yrs and then quietly seem to havre disappeared. Cigar bars too for that matter. Alcohol is forever. Quote The baiting I do is purely for entertainment value. Please feel free to ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Can't picture it around here because folks love their craft beer so much in San Diego. Quote Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groove On Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I think the younger generation goes online to hookup. They don't need alcohol, drugs (and even live music) as much because they can just swipe left/right on Tinder. By the time they are on a date, they've bypassed the a lot of the need for those things. The times have really changed ... I almost don't recognize this new world anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 This happened in NYC once before in the late 70's and early 80's were dancing was the main thing and non-alcoholic fruit juices were served only but LSD and Masculine were regularly taken buy the clientele and no alcohol was served. Sort of the beginning of the Rave phase for older hippies and hipsters. I had a Viet Nam Vet friend who went to them who was a NYC hipster for sure... he described it exactly as I just mentioned it. So the 'fruit juice only' part is nothing new but the 'pure sobriety' bit is. Quote CP-50, YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, Kurzweil SP6, XK-3, CX-3, Hammond XK-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PianoMan51 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 No alcohol? Whats next? Hookers, concealed carry, coke, midgets, cock fights, bible-study groups? A slippery slope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Won't work for our crowd. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGITC Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 From a patron's perspective, it's good to have choices. Give the people what they want. As a musician, in the example of playing for a crowd that doesn't drink, but wants to mingle and have a good time then leave early... I've played those gigs. No problem. In the other examples where drinking and smoking and dancing and meeting new people is happening... I've played those gigs too. Good times. If bars that serve drinks with no alcohol is a trend, I've got no problem with that. At the end of a long day, we're going to visit the places that suit us the best. Variety is a wonderful thing. That's why pub crawls exist. We're not all made from the same mold... Thank God. Tom Quote "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 If bars that serve drinks with no alcohol is a trend, I've got no problem with that. Natch, but I've never been in a club/bar where you HAD to drink alcohol. It seems like a place that mandated no alcohol as a doctrine would be a pretty stuffy place. Quote Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re Pete Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Only trend at the bar area restaurant I play is it's packed at happy hour. Then deserted right after as the prices go up. Places really overcharge for beer. I can see aged boose costing more, but it only takes a week or 2 to make beer. That to me is the real reason people are drinking less beer. If entertainment is offered I have no problem with the price, but most places only have a TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Beaumont Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 So basically its a coffee house, but with herbal teas. Better practice your Jack Johnson and buy an acoustic guitar. The next "new' thing will be weed bars and opium dens. Quote Boards: Kurzweil SP-6, Roland FA-08, VR-09, DeepMind 12 Modules: Korg Radias, Roland D-05, Bk7-m & Sonic Cell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Places really overcharge for beer. Major profit there... gouging at its worst. Quote When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Beaumont Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 My daughter works at a 'Juice Bar' its owned by the Yoga Studio next door. She says the only patrons are from the yoga studio because they get a discount. The normal price of the juice concoctions are twice that of Tropical Smoothie down the street and they serve food too. My daughter also said that they are making no profit. Quote Boards: Kurzweil SP-6, Roland FA-08, VR-09, DeepMind 12 Modules: Korg Radias, Roland D-05, Bk7-m & Sonic Cell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeronyne Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Smacks of a fad, but who knows... Alcohol lowers inhibitions, something of potential utility in a bar/nightclub situation where often an expressed interest is meeting/hooking up with someone. Yep, in Crown Point, Indiana, I can tell you that unhealthy living is alive and well, and craft breweries are exploding (figuratively). Maybe it's a trend on both coasts, because I haven't run across any dry venues in Chicago, either. Quote "For instance" is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Relax y'all, it's a big city niche that journalists like to write about for clicks. Not coming near your bar gigs anytime soon. Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin Funster Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Part of my thursday night weekly gig is a bar tab to make up for crappy pay. If i got payed in smoothies......sayanara, adios and aufwiedersien. Quote FunMachine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 For centuries beer has helped ugly men like me get laid. Now I will go home alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgoo Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I have a weekly house gig where people really listen to & appreciate good music, often sing along, don't come to hook up or dance and don't drink. It's called church. Quote Custom Music, Audio Post Production, Location Audio www.gmma.biz https://www.facebook.com/gmmamusic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Relax y'all, it's a big city niche that journalists like to write about for clicks. Not coming near your bar gigs anytime soon. Pretty much where I'm at with this too. Alcohol is just too much of an attractor, and has been for millennia. I will say this though. When I was young I thought we smoked a lot of weed, but we had nothing on what's happening today! Now that marijuana is legal (at least round here) there is a lot more open smoking going on - usually in combination with alcohol - which seems to cut down on overall alcohol consumption for the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardware Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 A club I work at has a weed smoking area thats quite popular. The owner claims this makes people drink more, he showed me a chart on alcohol sales since the section opened up. All I know is its got a great FOH and Video crew, awesome Monolith Array and a dozen Dual 18s under the stage, killer GoGo dancers with their own platforms, etc. Id say the Club Owner caters to everyone. Im a big fan of sexy dancers, could care less about the weed or booze. Im so straight these days I have to lay down just to take a shit. Quote Magnus C350 + FMR RNP + Realistic Unisphere Mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
area51recording Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Places really overcharge for beer. Major profit there... gouging at its worst. NOT just the beer....I drink Jamesons and by my third round I've bought them a bottle.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Well that's true. I remember reading that drinks and desserts are where restaurants gouge the most. Quote When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elif Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 ... The retiree clubs I'm playing are pretty close. Most don't drink. They are there for a night of fun music, a bit of dancing, and home early. Well, huge difference in age and musical genres. Not The Villages then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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