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Trends in Live Music Venues #2993560 06/09/19 07:54 PM
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A friend of mine who is a musician and booking agent posted this on Facebook:

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Thereís a new trend happening in NYC, as a recent new club called Gateway is packing crowds every weekend. The catch? Itís a sober bar, serving up herbal concoctions and other non alcoholic brews. This trend is also breaking loose in Silicon Valley, once known for itís excesses rather than health kicks and sobriety. Itís the new ďcoolĒ, as alcohol companies (especially beer makers) continue to see there sale plunge due to millennials higher interest in healthy living, and making experiences rather than lapses in memory.


I'm just curious if some of you have seen this trend and/or have any predictions?


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Not in the dirt floor dive bars I play in ... I donít think i play anything that one of those millennial herbal potion bars would want to hear.


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Re: Trends in Live Music Venues [Re: MotiDave] #2993577 06/09/19 09:46 PM
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Yeah it's starting to be a thing.

As far as music preferences, the quieter, acoustic and intricate stuff will probably play well. Don't think the dude at the back will be shouting "FREEBIRD!".

The retiree clubs I'm playing are pretty close. Most don't drink. They are there for a night of fun music, a bit of dancing, and home early. Well, huge difference in age and musical genres.


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Sure,,, my new band ( named On the Wagon btw) does ď Gimme 12 steps, gimme 12 steps misterĒas an encore,,,,

Re: Trends in Live Music Venues [Re: TommyS] #2993585 06/09/19 11:02 PM
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Its one thing to abstain from alchohol because your liver is shot and your a recovering alchoholic, but to not drink because youre a health nut...thats just SICK. That attitude will ruin live music as we know it.

Re: Trends in Live Music Venues [Re: Jr. Deluxe] #2993589 06/09/19 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Jr. Deluxe
Its one thing to abstain from alchohol because your liver is shot and your a recovering alchoholic, but to not drink because youre a health nut...thats just SICK. That attitude will ruin live music as we know it.
They said the same thing after banning smoking in public places, including bars and restaurantsÖ

Re: Trends in Live Music Venues [Re: Marzzz] #2993591 06/09/19 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: Marzzz
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Its one thing to abstain from alchohol because your liver is shot and your a recovering alchoholic, but to not drink because youre a health nut...thats just SICK. That attitude will ruin live music as we know it.
They said the same thing after banning smoking in public places, including bars and restaurantsÖ


All the bars i play still have smoking. Its just on the back patio. Alot of weed getting smoked back there too.

Re: Trends in Live Music Venues [Re: Jr. Deluxe] #2993592 06/09/19 11:43 PM
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Smacks of a fad, but who knows... Alcohol lowers inhibitions, something of potential utility in a bar/nightclub situation where often an expressed interest is meeting/hooking up with someone.


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Originally Posted By: Moonglow
Smacks of a fad, but who knows... Alcohol lowers inhibitions, something of potential utility in a bar/nightclub situation where often an expressed interest is meeting/hooking up with someone.


Me too. Reminds me of the huka pipe bars, the compressed gas bars, the fondu bars, etc., that popped up in the last 20 yrs and then quietly seem to havre disappeared. Cigar bars too for that matter.

Alcohol is forever.


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Can't picture it around here because folks love their craft beer so much in San Diego.


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Re: Trends in Live Music Venues [Re: Bobadeath] #2993607 06/10/19 05:57 AM
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I think the younger generation goes online to hookup. They don't need alcohol, drugs (and even live music) as much because they can just swipe left/right on Tinder. By the time they are on a date, they've bypassed the a lot of the need for those things.

The times have really changed ... I almost don't recognize this new world anymore.

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This happened in NYC once before in the late 70's and early 80's were dancing was the main thing and non-alcoholic fruit juices were served only but LSD and Masculine were regularly taken buy the clientele and no alcohol was served. Sort of the beginning of the Rave phase for older hippies and hipsters. I had a Viet Nam Vet friend who went to them who was a NYC hipster for sure... he described it exactly as I just mentioned it. So the 'fruit juice only' part is nothing new but the 'pure sobriety' bit is.

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No alcohol? Whatís next? Hookers, concealed carry, coke, midgets, cock fights, bible-study groups? A slippery slope. taz

Re: Trends in Live Music Venues [Re: PianoMan51] #2993612 06/10/19 08:50 AM
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Won't work for our crowd.


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Re: Trends in Live Music Venues [Re: Outkaster] #2993628 06/10/19 10:40 AM
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From a patron's perspective, it's good to have choices. Give the people what they want.

As a musician, in the example of playing for a crowd that doesn't drink, but wants to mingle and have a good time then leave early... I've played those gigs. No problem.

In the other examples where drinking and smoking and dancing and meeting new people is happening... I've played those gigs too. Good times.

If bars that serve drinks with no alcohol is a trend, I've got no problem with that.

At the end of a long day, we're going to visit the places that suit us the best. Variety is a wonderful thing. That's why pub crawls exist. cheers

We're not all made from the same mold...

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Originally Posted By: ITGITC?


If bars that serve drinks with no alcohol is a trend, I've got no problem with that.


Natch, but I've never been in a club/bar where you HAD to drink alcohol. It seems like a place that mandated no alcohol as a doctrine would be a pretty stuffy place.


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Only trend at the bar area restaurant I play is it's packed at happy hour. Then deserted right after as the prices go up.
Places really overcharge for beer. I can see aged boose costing more, but it only takes a week or 2 to make beer. That to me is the real reason people are drinking less beer. If entertainment is offered I have no problem with the price, but most places only have a TV.

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So basically its a coffee house, but with herbal teas. Better practice your Jack Johnson and buy an acoustic guitar. The next "new' thing will be weed bars and opium dens.


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Originally Posted By: re Pete
Places really overcharge for beer.


Major profit there... gouging at its worst. mad



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My daughter works at a 'Juice Bar' its owned by the Yoga Studio next door. She says the only patrons are from the yoga studio because they get a discount. The normal price of the juice concoctions are twice that of Tropical Smoothie down the street and they serve food too. My daughter also said that they are making no profit.


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Re: Trends in Live Music Venues [Re: Moonglow] #2993654 06/10/19 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: Moonglow
Smacks of a fad, but who knows... Alcohol lowers inhibitions, something of potential utility in a bar/nightclub situation where often an expressed interest is meeting/hooking up with someone.


Yep, in Crown Point, Indiana, I can tell you that unhealthy living is alive and well, and craft breweries are exploding (figuratively). Maybe it's a trend on both coasts, because I haven't run across any dry venues in Chicago, either.


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Relax y'all, it's a big city niche that journalists like to write about for clicks. Not coming near your bar gigs anytime soon.


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Part of my thursday night weekly gig is a bar tab to make up for crappy pay. If i got payed in smoothies......sayanara, adios and aufwiedersien.

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For centuries beer has helped ugly men like me get laid. Now I will go home alone.

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I have a weekly house gig where people really listen to & appreciate good music, often sing along, don't come to hook up or dance and don't drink. It's called church. laugh


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Originally Posted By: MAJUSCULE
Relax y'all, it's a big city niche that journalists like to write about for clicks. Not coming near your bar gigs anytime soon.


Pretty much where I'm at with this too. Alcohol is just too much of an attractor, and has been for millennia.

I will say this though. When I was young I thought we smoked a lot of weed, but we had nothing on what's happening today! Now that marijuana is legal (at least round here) there is a lot more open smoking going on - usually in combination with alcohol - which seems to cut down on overall alcohol consumption for the night.

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A club I work at has a weed smoking area thatís quite popular.
The owner claims this makes people drink more, he showed me a chart on alcohol sales since the section opened up.

All I know is itís got a great FOH and Video crew, awesome Monolith Array and a dozen Dual 18s under the stage, killer GoGo dancers with their own platforms, etc.

Iíd say the Club Owner caters to everyone.
Iím a big fan of sexy dancers, could care less about the weed or booze.
Iím so straight these days I have to lay down just to take a shit.


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Originally Posted By: Synthoid
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Places really overcharge for beer.


Major profit there... gouging at its worst. mad



NOT just the beer....I drink Jamesons and by my third round I've bought them a bottle....

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Well that's true.

I remember reading that drinks and desserts are where restaurants gouge the most.


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Originally Posted By: cphollis
... The retiree clubs I'm playing are pretty close. Most don't drink. They are there for a night of fun music, a bit of dancing, and home early. Well, huge difference in age and musical genres.

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