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Billy Joel vs Elton John ... Who's a better player? #2993099 06/07/19 12:21 PM
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I recently got into this discussion with my cousin, who also is a piano player. He believes that Elton John is the better piano player. I believe that Billy Joel is based on his ability to play a broader palette of music. Your thoughts?


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Re: Billy Joel vs Elton John ... Who's better? [Re: Delaware Dave] #2993102 06/07/19 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Delaware Dave
I recently got into this discussion with my cousin, who also is a piano player. He believes that Elton John is the better piano player. I believe that Billy Joel is based on his ability to play a broader palette of music. Your thoughts?


I prefer Elton. I like his song writing[ with Bernie Taupin]

Re: Billy Joel vs Elton John ... Who's better? [Re: Delaware Dave] #2993103 06/07/19 12:33 PM
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I think Billy Joel has better technique but I very much prefer Elton's style.


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Re: Billy Joel vs Elton John ... Who's better? [Re: Shamanczarek] #2993106 06/07/19 12:45 PM
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Billy Joel. Not even close. Technically he is better. I like Elton John but don't think of him as a pianist.


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Re: Billy Joel vs Elton John ... Who's better? [Re: Outkaster] #2993107 06/07/19 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: Outkaster
Billy Joel. Not even close. Technically he is better. I like Elton John but don't think of him as a pianist.


Have you ever heard Elton John in a solo context? I saw him about 10 years ago with just piano and percussionist Ray Cooper. Astounding! It was like hearing a completely different pianist. His playing was virtuosic, funky, emotional and all out ballsy. I was floored. After that I'd rate him way above Billy and I'm a huge Billy fan.


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Better is subjective, correct? idk


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Billy Joel. Not even close. Technically he is better. I like Elton John but don't think of him as a pianist.


Have you ever heard Elton John in a solo context? I saw him about 10 years ago with just piano and percussionist Ray Cooper. Astounding! It was like hearing a completely different pianist. His playing was virtuosic, funky, emotional and all out ballsy. I was floored. After that I'd rate him way above Billy and I'm a huge Billy fan.


virtuosic?


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Re: Billy Joel vs Elton John ... Who's better? [Re: Outkaster] #2993116 06/07/19 01:41 PM
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there is no better

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Originally Posted By: El Lobo
there is no better
Who's better, Mozart or a 10 year old who's taken one piano lesson? Someone is a better player....


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Re: Billy Joel vs Elton John ... Who's better? [Re: Delaware Dave] #2993122 06/07/19 02:02 PM
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In terms of technical ability, I think it's safe to say that Billy is better than Elton. In the same way that it's safe to say that Bruce Hornsby is better than both of them and Keith Jarrett is better than all three. But I prefer Eltons playing to Billys, overall.


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Re: Billy Joel vs Elton John ... Who's better? [Re: Delaware Dave] #2993123 06/07/19 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: Delaware Dave
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there is no better
Who's better, Mozart or a 10 year old who's taken one piano lesson? Someone is a better player....
Who is a better composer: Bach, Mozart, or Beethoven?
There is no "better."

Re: Billy Joel vs Elton John ... Who's better? [Re: Outkaster] #2993128 06/07/19 02:39 PM
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Billy Joel. Not even close. Technically he is better. I like Elton John but don't think of him as a pianist.


Have you ever heard Elton John in a solo context? I saw him about 10 years ago with just piano and percussionist Ray Cooper. Astounding! It was like hearing a completely different pianist. His playing was virtuosic, funky, emotional and all out ballsy. I was floored. After that I'd rate him way above Billy and I'm a huge Billy fan.


virtuosic?



Yup. I always heard him live with the band. He was the band on this particular gig. He was churning out very tasty rnythm and blues as well as some jazz stuff. His recordings he comes across as a nice pop pianist but this gig it seemed like he threw caution to the wind and just played regardless of the audience. It was a real treat to have seen it.


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But yeah better is completely subjective.....


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Right. I think that Jordan Rudess is the "best" keyboard player I've ever seen yet there's a lot of keyboard players I'd rather listen to.


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I vote Billy Joel using this criteria: if I could expose a piano student to just one of these two, I would choose Billy. Perhaps Elton John has some underutilized virtuosity such as Dockeys experienced, but Billy Joel's body of work provides a much broader range of techniques, riffs, and overall bag of tricks than Sir Elton's body of work.

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Mac or Windows?

Betty or Veronica?

Ginger or Mary Ann?

Keaton, Kilmer, West or Bale?

Tastes great! Less filling!

Will these threads ever stop? Guess not.

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Bailey or Jennifer?

Bailey!


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Re: Billy Joel vs Elton John ... Who's better? [Re: Sven Golly] #2993168 06/07/19 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
Will these threads ever stop? Guess not.

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Re: Billy Joel vs Elton John ... Who's better? [Re: Delaware Dave] #2993170 06/07/19 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: Dockeys


Have you ever heard Elton John in a solo context? I saw him about 10 years ago with just piano and percussionist Ray Cooper. Astounding! It was like hearing a completely different pianist. His playing was virtuosic, funky, emotional and all out ballsy....


Nice! I've never seen Elton John's solo piano performances. I'll see if I can find some footage of this event.

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Apples or bell peppers? There's no objective criteria for better... crazy

However, I believe that Elton has a more recognizable style, while Billy adapts his playing more to fit the song. If you didn't know, you'd probably never guess that Just The Way You Are and Scenes From An Italian Restaurant were played by the same pianist, let alone on the same album. rockit


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Originally Posted By: Bucktunes
Scenes From An Italian Restaurant


All about Brenda Rinetti. w00t


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I, too, do not believe there is a "better" when speaking of artists of any ilk. There's too much opinion involved and an artist may "speak" to someone in different ways and intensities.
I was a fan of both, but I looked at Elton as a singer/songwriter that played well enough to put his songs across, and Billy as a great piano player that also wrote some cool tunes.
Then I saw some footage (long after it was recorded) of an MTV Unplugged featuring Elton. I thought his piano playing was excellent. His chops and gospel-ly feel blew me away.


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I like both Billy Joel and Elton John better than The Who.

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Re: Billy Joel vs Elton John ... Who's better? [Re: Synthoid] #2993222 06/07/19 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Originally Posted By: Bucktunes
Scenes From An Italian Restaurant

All about Brenda Rinetti. w00t
Pure belly laugh when I saw that one. Thanks.


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Correct answers:
  • Linux. 1st runner-up is VAX/VMS.
  • Veronica, since she was a keyboardist.
  • Mary Ann for the long haul.
  • Surprisingly Keaton. I thought he was an oaf until he did Batman. I note that Clooney didn't even make the list.
  • Tap water. I hate beer, and I &#^$*ing hate light beer.
  • Jennifer, although with the Mary Ann vote it shoulda been Bailey
  • 5.1 audio channels minimum, considering moving to 7.2
  • The 10 year old kid is the better player. Mozart, being dead, can't play a lick.
Oh, and Billy Joel, since the question wasn't "who is the better entertainer" but "who is the better piano player." I never met anyone who woodshedded for weeks to learn how to play Buh-Buh-Buh-Benny and the Jets.

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In an interview a few years ago, Billy Joel himself said “Elton John can kick my ass on piano any day of the week” or words to that effect.


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