OT: Life changer products; The 2007 Steve Jobs iPhone

[Song80s]

https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/9/14208974/iphone-announcement-10-year-anniversary-steve-jobs

 

On January 9th, 2007, Steve Jobs stood on a stage and introduced the device that would come to define the biggest tech company in the world the iPhone.

 

At the time, the concept seemed overly ambitious a full-fledged computer in your pocket but time has shown Jobs vision to be entirely correct

 

CEO Tim Cook noted in todays memorial post. iPhone is an essential part of our customers' lives, and today more than ever it is redefining the way we communicate, entertain, work and live, Cook said

 

And you codgers might like this:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/2/15894490/iphone-10th-anniversary-devices-killed-analog-outdated-old

[ElmerJFudd]

March of 2018 - Viagra Turned 20!

 

http://fortune.com/2018/03/27/viagra-anniversary-pfizer/

[Song80s]

March of 2018 - Viagra Turned 20!

 

http://fortune.com/2018/03/27/viagra-anniversary-pfizer/

 

LOL. I suppose cheap Viagra from 3rd world countries is more of a life changer than some old iPhone [ also made who knows where].

[ElmerJFudd]

generic viagra for er'body!

 

[Song80s]

generic viagra for er'body!

 

So new keyboards is not exciting enough ?

[Threadslayer]

In related news, Apple and Pfizer have announced a new product under development as a joint venture. Code named "iPud" it is rumored to perform for more than 4 hours...

[Markay]

Only comes in blue, and iPud's have been available in New Zealand for 20 years.

[Song80s]

I have noticed that about your country and NZ. You folks are more advanced in certain areas

[Iconoclast]

Related to phones...GPS. When was the last time you were actually lost?

 

My day job is flying airplanes. Over 30 years total now, mostly in the Air Force and now in the Airlines.

 

I can remember hitching a ride on a KC-135 in the late 80's and watching the Navigator (yes...they had a dude who's entire job was to know where the hell they were) shoot the sun with a sextant.

 

I flew single seat fighters in Germany before the end of the cold war and long before anyone could spell GPS. Back then, about 60% of available brain-RAM was engaged in just trying to keep track of where you were. Inertial Nav systems weren't that accurate and it wasn't too hard end up surprisingly far from where you thought you were travelling at 800 feet per second.

 

GPS became usable in the early 90's and by '95 it was a reliable 24 hr a day system. Now, airplanes (and cars, joggers, phones) know pretty much exactly where they are in 4 dimensions (the time hack that your phone uses comes from GPS too). For pilots it freed up a bunch of brain-RAM to spend on other tasks. However, any new pilots trained in the last 25 years basically don't know anything about navigation

 

The other side of this issue is that GPS is very vulnerable to jamming and or deception. Mere noise jamming can cause problems but even more dangerous would be space based deception by a country like Russia or China. This isn't science fiction, it's capability! Advertised and demonstrated by our enemies in the world.

 

The bring back here is that celestial navigation is being taught again in some parts of the military as a back up for when GPS is denied. The real question is what will YOU do if GPS died.

 

Your cellphone probably wont even work because of the loss of time signal, let alone losing google maps.

[Song80s]

Related to phones...GPS. When was the last time you were actually lost?

 

The bring back here is that celestial navigation is being taught again in some parts of the military as a back up for when GPS is denied. The real question is what will YOU do if GPS died.

 

Your cellphone probably wont even work because of the loss of time signal, let alone losing google maps.

 

IMO, its not about being ' lost '. Its finding an efficient route. We did perfectly ok, as consumers , driving around before map apps. If we planned a vacation, we had paper maps. Or maps from AAA. OMG , what an inconvenience [ its not, really, just tossing it around]

 

Anyway, the larger issue is young parents shoving smart phones in to the hands of babies and children 8 years and younger. And of course, many young parents bury their attention into their smart phones 24/7 while their children wonder, " WTF Mommy ? "

[Stokely]

GPS is one of the main (and few) real must-haves when it comes to smart phones for me. Nothing else gets a ton of use.

 

I did love being able to change my own monitor mix via phone when we had a digital mixer

 

That said, one drawback of relying on your phone for GPS is that you don't tend to pay as much attention to how to get places without it

 

The phone isn't always right as well. My mom on her old paper map was with us on vacation, and she saved us literally 100 miles by saying we should take a different road. These were major roads too, for some reason the phones were taking us way out of the way.

 

There are some (scary) studies out there that have to do with the impact "devices" are having on us. One point was that we are making ourselves anxious with all this "gotta check or I'll miss out" business. One study said that on average people take out their phones every six minutes to "check" it...

 

Not to mention how dangerous driving is getting with everyone's face buried in their phone.

[Song80s]

GPS is one of the main (and few) real must-haves when it comes to smart phones for me. Nothing else gets a ton of use.

 

That said, one drawback of relying on your phone for GPS is that you don't tend to pay as much attention to how to get places without it

 

The phone isn't always right as well. My mom on her old paper map was with us on vacation, and she saved us literally 100 miles by saying we should take a different road. These were major roads too, for some reason the phones were taking us way out of the way.

 

There are some (scary) studies out there that have to do with the impact "devices" are having on us. One point was that we are making ourselves anxious with all this "gotta check or I'll miss out" business. One study said that on average people take out their phones every six minutes to "check" it...

 

Not to mention how dangerous driving is getting with everyone's face buried in their phone.

 

The Diane Sawyer Screen time special was a real eye opener

https://www.sunjournal.com/2019/05/02/bates-education-expert-talks-about-screen-time-with-diane-sawyer-for-tv-special/

 

Anyway, my old school way is to map out how/where I am going BEFORE I get in the car. For example, I have 20 specific stops on a Saturday. I figure out in advance how to best handle the trip, start to finish.

 

If I use a map app if am stopped somewhere, parked, etc, and needs the route.'

 

Another herd phenomenon are traffic congestion Apps, like Waze. They herd drivers into alternate routes. Unfortunately, that creates another traffic jam.

 

I avoided a head on collision on a 2 lane country road last Sunday. The lady was driving a huge Escalade, she was yakking on her phone and pulled partially into my lane at 50 MPH. I jumped onto there shoulder, horn blasting. If I did not do that, my wife and I would be dead. 50 MPH head on is a killer in the smaller car [ my Honda CRV}

 

These near misses happen all the time

 

 

[Synthoid]

Another herd phenomenon are traffic congestion Apps, like Warez.

 

That app is actually called Waze.

 

Warez is a name used for illegal software.

 

 

[Song80s]

good catch, thanks. I made an edit

[Synthoid]

iPhone is an essential part of our customers' lives, and today more than ever it is redefining the way we communicate, entertain, work and live, *

 

 

*Plus buggy IOS updates, no fast charger included, no SD card slot, outlandish repair costs...

[Outkaster]

Related to phones...GPS. When was the last time you were actually lost?

 

My day job is flying airplanes. Over 30 years total now, mostly in the Air Force and now in the Airlines.

 

I can remember hitching a ride on a KC-135 in the late 80's and watching the Navigator (yes...they had a dude who's entire job was to know where the hell they were) shoot the sun with a sextant.

 

I flew single seat fighters in Germany before the end of the cold war and long before anyone could spell GPS. Back then, about 60% of available brain-RAM was engaged in just trying to keep track of where you were. Inertial Nav systems weren't that accurate and it wasn't too hard end up surprisingly far from where you thought you were travelling at 800 feet per second.

 

GPS became usable in the early 90's and by '95 it was a reliable 24 hr a day system. Now, airplanes (and cars, joggers, phones) know pretty much exactly where they are in 4 dimensions (the time hack that your phone uses comes from GPS too). For pilots it freed up a bunch of brain-RAM to spend on other tasks. However, any new pilots trained in the last 25 years basically don't know anything about navigation

 

The other side of this issue is that GPS is very vulnerable to jamming and or deception. Mere noise jamming can cause problems but even more dangerous would be space based deception by a country like Russia or China. This isn't science fiction, it's capability! Advertised and demonstrated by our enemies in the world.

 

The bring back here is that celestial navigation is being taught again in some parts of the military as a back up for when GPS is denied. The real question is what will YOU do if GPS died.

 

 

 

 

What do you think of the latest 737 mess? As I understand it that software isn't necessary really to fly the plane? Seems like no one wants to take any blame.

Your cellphone probably wont even work because of the loss of time signal, let alone losing google maps.

[Song80s]

iPhone is an essential part of our customers' lives, and today more than ever it is redefining the way we communicate, entertain, work and live, *

 

 

*Plus buggy IOS updates, no fast charger included, no SD card slot, outlandish repair costs...

 

sure, and short life batteries. But all that is old news.

 

My concern is the smart phone addiction by parents and their young children- which Diane Sawyers show documented.

 

It hit home over here since the wife is a 3rd grade school teacher. Half the students go into melt down as teacher takes away smart phones, in an effort to gain their short attention and teach them something.

[Synthoid]

My concern is the smart phone addiction by parents and their young children- which Diane Sawyers show documented.

 

It hit home over here since the wife is a 3rd grade school teacher. Half the students go into melt down as teacher takes away smart phones, in an effort to gain their short attention and teach them something.

 

In addition to the short attention span syndrome, it's simply impractical to give a smartphone to anyone that young. It will most likely be lost, stolen, or broken within 3 months.

 

 

[Song80s]

My concern is the smart phone addiction by parents and their young children- which Diane Sawyers show documented.

 

It hit home over here since the wife is a 3rd grade school teacher. Half the students go into melt down as teacher takes away smart phones, in an effort to gain their short attention and teach them something.

 

In addition to the short attention span syndrome, it's simply impractical to give a smartphone to anyone that young. It will most likely be lost, stolen, or broken within 3 months.

 

 

that's old school true but its not a consideration for young parents. The 8-9 year old child has to have a social media presence and keep collecting 'likes' from their friends.

For the parents, the smart phone is a convenient baby sitter, and YouTube is endless bottomless free entertainment. And parents have their own social media presence to maintain.

From my local observation, the smart phone addiction is running about 60/40. 40% of young parents are controlling smart phone usage of their children- or at least until they reach 10-12 yrs of age. By then, its all over.

[cphollis]

Back to OP: air fryers.

[MoodyBluesKeys]

Definitely. Bought a Paula Deen air fryer, and the accessory rotating basket. Always liked French Fries, now can enjoy them with full taste and very little oil.

Started cooking green veggies like green beans and asparagus in the basket - taste a lot better than out of a can.

Gets used just about every day and night here - also less heat generated than using the regular store.

[cphollis]

I use mine most nights when we're eating at home. Yes, french fries and veggies, but there's so much more. Marinated chicken and salmon steaks. Taquitos. Gyoza and similar. Italian meatballs. Hash browns and sausage (not eggs).

 

Jeez, put almost anything in it and it comes out amazing.

[MotiDave]

My concern is the smart phone addiction by parents and their young children- which Diane Sawyers show documented.

 

It hit home over here since the wife is a 3rd grade school teacher. Half the students go into melt down as teacher takes away smart phones, in an effort to gain their short attention and teach them something.

 

In addition to the short attention span syndrome, it's simply impractical to give a smartphone to anyone that young. It will most likely be lost, stolen, or broken within 3 months.

 

 

that's old school true but its not a consideration for young parents. The 8-9 year old child has to have a social media presence and keep collecting 'likes' from their friends.

For the parents, the smart phone is a convenient baby sitter, and YouTube is endless bottomless free entertainment. And parents have their own social media presence to maintain.

From my local observation, the smart phone addiction is running about 60/40. 40% of young parents are controlling smart phone usage of their children- or at least until they reach 10-12 yrs of age. By then, its all over.

my wife held out on my kids until they matriculated to middle school. She rationalized they need a phone to contact her. I laughed and said not really but whatever.

 

I was getting free phones from work every 14 months. Everyone else has a successive down rev of whatever I have. I hav an X, wife has 7+, daughter has 6+, son has 6

 

We just replaced their batteries when Apple got busted for slowing phones down to save battery life. They are good for another year or so lol. I did put a glass screen on the kids phones and decent case, one kid broke the glass screen once, no phone broke yet.

[Threadslayer]

What do you think of the latest 737 mess? As I understand it that software isn't necessary really to fly the plane? Seems like no one wants to take any blame.

Your cellphone probably wont even work because of the loss of time signal, let alone losing google maps.

Well, speaking of 737s and cellphones, I flew back to LA from Chicago on a United 737-900 yesterday and there wasn't a single video screen to be had. Not on the seat backs, overhead or anywhere. The PSA muttered something about enjoying media using the United App on your personal electronics in airplane mode etc. but this is the first time in years I've been on a new airliner without some sort of media entertainment system. I was glad I'd brought along a book to read instead of peering at my iPhone for 4 hours.

 

-Old fart.

[SteveCoscia]

A 512K Apple Macintosh, bought in 1985, changed my life. That Macintosh unleashed a boatload of creative output because it permitted a user to type, draw and paint ideas.

 

That first Macintosh didn't sell well, but the few folks who bought one achieved a bounce in productivity and innovation.

[Song80s]

A 512K Apple Macintosh, bought in 1985, changed my life. That Macintosh unleashed a boatload of creative output because it permitted a user to type, draw and paint ideas.

 

That first Macintosh didn't sell well, but the few folks who bought one achieved a bounce in productivity and innovation.

 

thanks for the post. I recall those days, mid 80's and the battle for personal computer 'mind ' share.

 

Its fun to read this history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_128K

 

Creative folks are about 1 % of the population. I think creative types and 'early adopters' who could afford the the 512 Apple Mac were the bulk of sales.

 

The 'practical ' business types were drawn to windows, and the PC platform. I hauled around a 40 pound Compaq back then. This was common with business types back then.