Manhunter Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Looking through stands on the Thomann site recently and found a foldable version of the 18810 - the Omega Pro 18820. Always quite liked the idea of the 18810 but not the way it only folded into a long narrow shape - this one isn't exactly elegant but at least it folds up!! Omega Pro Available in Black, White or Red. Just popped back to the site to have a look before posting and they have just added a version of this stand: 18800 Omega-E Electronically adjusting stand - preset heights using an app. Must have deep pockets!! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnchop Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Good find! I have an 18810 which doesn't go anywhere, but man this would have been a nice option. Quote I make software noises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Good find! I have an 18810 which doesn't go anywhere, but man this would have been a nice option. +1000. I love my 18810, but it's just way too much of a pain to move for me to gig with it. dB Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkost2002 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Good find! I have an 18810 which doesn't go anywhere, but man this would have been a nice option. +1000. I love my 18810, but it's just way too much of a pain to move for me to gig with it. dB dB and johnchop, I am with you guys.... I think the 18820 is next on my list! Quote "I have constantly tried to deliver only products which withstand the closest scrutiny � products which prove themselves superior in every respect.� Robert Bosch, 1919 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgermain Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I gig with the 18810, and it is a great solid stand, this looks a good option. Definitely going to get me the 18820, it looks like you can get a bag for it as well, which would be great, if the quality is good.... https://produkte.k-m.de/en/Keyboard-stands/Keyboard-tables/18829-Carrying-case Quote Nord Stage 3 https://www.facebook.com/MisterSuperJuice/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 About $260 USD for the stand and the 2nd tier arms shipped to US. Not bad at all. To stgermain, FWIW I picked up the K&M bag for my Baby Spider Pro and it was of very poor quality. Zipper broke very quickly, the material was thin and shredded soon after, and the bag handles were way too long to be carried comfortably. I had a third party bag made by a local vendor (Studio Slips) and it continues to be a work horse for me to this day. Don't know if the bag for the Omega is of higher quality and can't tell from the pictures online, but caveat emptor. Quote .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Same here, the K&M bag I have for my spider pro is very thin and cheaply-made. I've had mine less than a year and it's not going to make it much longer, and I'm pretty careful with my gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyFF Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Saw this over at the Nord Stage forum, the K&M 18825 folding stand. If you follow the link and scroll down you'll see the 18825, it has a mic stand attachment, and the beauty of it, esp for single keyboard setups, is the keyboard and mic stand all fold up into a relatively small size. I want me one! Quote Numa Piano X73 /// Kawai ES920 /// Casio CT-X5000 /// Yamaha EW425 Yamaha Melodica and Alto Recorder QSC K8.2 // JBL Eon One Compact // Soundcore Motion Boom Plus Win10 laptop i7 8GB // iPad Pro 9.7" 32GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedar Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I don't see the 18825 on the K&M website. There is a 18826 (maybe just a later version?) I have the Omega Pro, but agree it is cumbersome to move. I like the idea of the folding stands. And found one site offering the 18880 for $79. For that price I might get a stand solely for gigging (but some of the reviews of that particular stand seem mixed.) https://www.thomannmusic.com/km_18880_reviews.htm?sid=7c97ca541687bc1bdefc21ab2b119f6c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyFF Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I see one a K&M folding stand for $184 at B&H Photo. Doesn't look like it'd accomadate a 2d level. Did you see the pic on my above posting of it folded up with the mic stand attachment? Quote Numa Piano X73 /// Kawai ES920 /// Casio CT-X5000 /// Yamaha EW425 Yamaha Melodica and Alto Recorder QSC K8.2 // JBL Eon One Compact // Soundcore Motion Boom Plus Win10 laptop i7 8GB // iPad Pro 9.7" 32GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWW Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 What do you think about the electric version? Quote Hammond C3, Leslie 122, Steinway B, Wurlitzer 200A, Rhodes 73, D6 Clav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider76 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 What do you think about the electric version? Over 700 euros and 24 kilos. Not foldable and not portable. I can't see the potential application. Permanently installed in a high-end studio? But such a situation would hardly need to adjust the height so often as to justify the motorized stand. I'm a bit perplexed, honestly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryjam Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 So, in your opinions, is this newer foldable version gigable? Quote Barry Home: Steinway L, Montage 8 Gigs: Yamaha CP88, Crumar Mojo 61, A&H SQ5 mixer, ME1 IEM, MiPro 909 IEMs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider76 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 So, in your opinions, is this newer foldable version gigable? Definitely. It was clearly made to answer the main (and only, mostly) criticism to the original Omega "It's the best stand ever, if only it was not so big and awkward to transport..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutJet Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I've finally got this foldable K&M Omega stand ordered... Including 2nd tier and tray from Thomann for $290 USD (all B-Stock), including shipping to USA (B&H wanted for $450 for only 2 of the 3 pieces below, with 2 weeks shipping and be non-returnable) Now, to see how long it takes DHL to get from Germany to Cleveland! ð¤ K&M 18820 Omega Pro White K&M 18819 Keyboard tray K&M 18811 White Keyboard and laptop holder After watching the folding on this video, I had to have it...[video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toescuffe Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I've played a couple dozen gigs with my new foldable Omega stand and love it. I used the non folding version for over a year and liked it but was a pain to pack into my car. Before that I used the Spider Pro for 3 years and finally determined it's not quite solid enough for hammer action DPs of any weight if you play with any force at all. The new folding Omega comes with a shoulder strap which seemed like a great idea but it failed the second time I used it and my new stand hit the sidewalk hard. No damage. It is very heavy and very solid.I just put the second tier from my older Omega on the new one. They are the same dimensions and totally compatible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agitato Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Is the 18820 as solid (as in no wobble whatsoever), as the 18950? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toescuffe Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I"ve never used the 18950 but I have zero wobble to report on either the 18810 or 18820. I"m not using the heaviest boards. Forte 7 is 42 lbs. XK1C is 16 lbs. I have the laptop extension with two effect pedals attached with Velcro and the other accessory attachment I"m using for an iPad. I"ve never been to picky about wobble though. The spider pro was a wobble fest which didn"t bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I got the Omega Pro last week and it's a bitch. It's very sturdy, no question about it, but not flexible and I got the matching tiers. It's not flexible at all and doesn't fit well in a truck. The thing I can't figure out is if the tiers will work with the foldable one? I will send it back and talk to my buddy at Sweetwater as I didn't use it. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I guess I don't play that hard, and to be fair both keyboards I have are less than 20 pounds, but I've never had the Spider pro wobble on me. (Weight of the keyboard is surely the reason). K&M certainly makes nice stuff. I got their mic boom arm recently and it's great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Yeah they do I just meant they aren't a flexible stand. I need anything to make tear down and load in fast. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfields Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I'd call that "foldable" not "flexible". "Flexible" suggests either it flexes in use (probably bad), or it has a lot of different uses (good). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Well yes that's what I meant. The Stand is back-ordered now. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toescuffe Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 What are you looking for in flexibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just to fold fit in the car, that's made well and has a quick set up time. Like someone said the Omega is pain to put into a vehicle. I don't know why it seems to be so hard for a good manufactured stand to go on the market. One that tiers don't break, knobs get stripped easily, parts constantly fall off of. It seems to be elusive. In thirty years of gigging every stand I have had from Ultimate Support to Quicklok all fail. Boogles the fuckin mind. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toescuffe Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I feel your pain. I've been to hell and back with this, everything you've described. The Omega Pro does not fit nicely in my car but it does fit which is good enough for me for now. I leave the second tier attachments on but I take the actual tiers off and carry them separate in a backpack. Not the fastest setup or tear down but manageable for me. The Omega stands are my last ditch effort before ordering a bunch of Gibraltar tubes and parts and doing the design bit myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 It sounds like you bought the Omega 18810, (not Omega Pro) which does not fold. Only the legs turn in. The Omega 18820 (Omega Pro) is what you want. Quote David Gig Rig:Depends on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Yeah I just ordered one. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toescuffe Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I understand now. FYI I bought the Omega Pro but not the second tier and just attached the second tier from my Omega non folding. They are perfectly compatible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevodaly Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Hi - for anyone that owns the Omega 18820 pro (folding one) - I can see from pictures that you can adjust the leg height - but can you remove the legs/feet all the way out? Reason I ask is I'd love to buy a bag/case that would fit the stand and the 2nd tier arms. Not sure the K&M bag will fit both - and it's a bit pricey and doesn't look all that strong! I thought if the feet are detachable, then I could go for a narrower bag. Thanks in advance for any info! Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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