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EHX wins copyright lawsuit against Mooer #2984549
04/10/19 07:18 PM
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We've heard about Boss and other companies suing Behringer over blatant copies and patent violations. Now Electro Harmonix has successfully won a suit against Mooer, the Chinese pedal manufacturer.

"The lift was so blatant that it was said the code in the Mooer pedals still sported the EHX copyright notice."

Good on 'em! (EHX, that is)

Link to article in Gearphoria


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Re: EHX wins copyright lawsuit against Mooer [Re: Danzilla] #2984554
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Re: EHX wins copyright lawsuit against Mooer [Re: Dannyalcatraz] #2984580
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Congratulations to Mike Matthews of Electro Harmonix in this important victory.


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Re: EHX wins copyright lawsuit against Mooer [Re: Sharkman] #2984587
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Congrats to EHX! thu


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Re: EHX wins copyright lawsuit against Mooer [Re: Danzilla] #2984599
04/11/19 02:59 AM
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Far too much of this still going on-bravo EXH!


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Re: EHX wins copyright lawsuit against Mooer [Re: skipclone 1] #2984720
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True creators should always win > mere copycats.

One of the tricky parts though, esp in international commerce, is actually policing supplies & collecting on judgements.



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Re: EHX wins copyright lawsuit against Mooer [Re: d / halfnote] #2984814
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I wonder what this means for other import pedal makers, like the "clones of clones" such as Joyo, Donner, etc. They look like the Mooers. A lot of the "big name" manufacturers' mini-pedals look like the Mooers, too; I wonder if they are all manufactured in the same plant and just have a different color/label slapped on them (like at a Samick guitar plant).


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Re: EHX wins copyright lawsuit against Mooer [Re: Danzilla] #2984821
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Dhgate, a Chinese wholesaler, has Fender Stratocasters for under $200. They are even labeled made in the USA. You can buy them in bulk, the more you buy the cheaper they are. I would imagine it is not only Fender.
If I pickup a Strat in a store I can tell what I am getting, but I would be concerned about buying online, especially from a dealer I didn't Know.

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Re: EHX wins copyright lawsuit against Mooer [Re: surfergirl] #2984827
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Yeah, proceed with caution with Chinese online sellers. Better yet, donít proceed with them AT ALL.

OTOH, most of my collection has been purchased online or via phone transactions. If the seller has a good reputation and return policy, risk approaches nil.


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Re: EHX wins copyright lawsuit against Mooer [Re: Dannyalcatraz] #2984879
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Don't worry about Japanese sellers though; I have had nothing but the most excellent experiences with them (including recently). Due to how complicated it is to deal with Brasil (pretty much wiring money is the only option, and that's too risky), I found a Japanese representative of the luthier's sales and went through him instead. Smooth as silk. And in years past, I have bought other stuff that isn't ordinarily imported to the USA. Typically above the consumer-level grade, of course.


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Re: EHX wins copyright lawsuit against Mooer [Re: Mark Schmieder] #2984897
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I will add to that, I have days when I wonder if I made a horrible mistake by living in Japan. A trip to the music stores usually puts that right out of my mind.


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Re: EHX wins copyright lawsuit against Mooer [Re: Dannyalcatraz] #2984926
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Well, the current legal thinking is you can't get sued for copying a circuit, but you definitely can be sued for copying software. Mooer will take a serious financial hit, and have to promise never to be seen in the vicinity again with pirated software, and rightly so.
Behringer, Joyo, Donner, etc. will most likely not be affected if they don't appropriate any copyrighted names, trademarks or designs (box shapes, etc). I don't know if I feel bad about that, really. After all, Leo Fender never originated any electronic design, not for a pickup, volume or filter circuit, or amplifier. We'd all be playing acoustic if he hadn't cribbed some stuff...


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I spend a lot of money buying merchandise from Chinese wholesalers, and one thing I have learned is that you NEVER assume that a brand name item is the real thing. The scary thing is, I've had some counterfeit goods that I intentionally bought just to compare to the real thing that were made so well that I could not tell the difference. And beware of Amazon and Ebay. They are probably the biggest resellers of counterfeit products in the world. When in doubt, buy from a business that you trust.


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