Sundown Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Hey all, Let's say you're a pro with 20 or 30 grand to burn... You love real tonewheels, but you don't want a piece of furniture on stage and a chop doesn't go quite far enough. You want an ultra-low profile, custom MIDI controller with a cutting edge appearance, and you want to keep the mechanical/furniture portion off-stage. Could it be done? Could a mechanism trigger the tone wheels and related controls via MIDI and still maintain the immediacy and feel of a genuine tonewheel organ? This is all hypothetical for me as I'm not a touring pro, but I do think about how cool it would be from time to time. Thanks for your insight... Quote Sundown Working on: The Jupiter Bluff; Driven Away Main axes: Kawai MP11 and Kurz PC361 DAW Platform: Cubase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyn Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Couldn't you just midi it (Easier said than done) and mic it off stage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin Funster Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 9 contact waterfall keys. 4 sets of drawbars. Expression pedal . All the rocker switches and cv knob. All the reverse key presets. I dont think 30 grand would be enough to midi all that. Worst of all is youd give up the 2 manuals of waterfall keys for a midi keyboard. Not even worth fantasizing about. Quote FunMachine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Moe built one. All he would need to add to it is the VB3-ii VST. Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukskywalker Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Poverty actually made me do something like this but not midi because midi didnt exist yet so I used copper wire. I was given a beat to death beast of a Hammond that was impossible to gig with and I couldnt afford to buy anything and even if I could clonewheels didnt exist yet either. So, I did a chop where the playing console ended up in its own box and the generator assembly sat on the floor also in its own box. Each was still heavy as hell but I could get them around with just a little help and make a buck or two. Cabling was done by way of phone mult cables and plugs. Assembly was via a customized set of RollerKarries. Not elegant or sleek but movable and yes...remote generators. (God bless the 70s...us dinosaurs still roam the earth.) (And I still have it out in the garage!!) (PS: Moes work is Nobel prize worthy.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourniplus Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Could a mechanism trigger the tone wheels and related controls via MIDI and still maintain the immediacy and feel of a genuine tonewheel organ? I'd say it's a bit contradictory, if you don't use the original keyboards then you lose the multi-contact keying system and the original feel. Personnally I think an organ looks great on stage. Quote "Show me all the blueprints. I'm serious now, show me all the blueprints." My homemade instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 He does not know what he asks. Nothing good comes out of this. Quote "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundown Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 He does not know what he asks. Nothing good comes out of this. Ha! No, nothing will come out of it. It's just hypothetical. I didn't know complex the action was (9 contacts). It's completely subjective. Some like the look of an organ onstage, but I could appreciate a super slim slab with a near-invisible stand (albeit with one manual) instead of the classic console or chop. Quote Sundown Working on: The Jupiter Bluff; Driven Away Main axes: Kawai MP11 and Kurz PC361 DAW Platform: Cubase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 The answer is yes. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Never seen a chop that was easier to handle than a intact cabinet on ROKs. Also the worst maintenance / repair nightmares is the goofy stuff. Quote "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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