Outkaster Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Wednesday night I got a call from The Real MC's (Mike's) brother. He lives near me. He said that he saw something I might like so I went and picked it up. It is an early 70's 145 with a lot of missing parts. I really don't think it was gigged with but maybe improperly stored? The cabinet and moldings are all there, they seem still solid. Someone cannibalized it though. I am looking at at least $1000 dollars in parts because for one the amp isn't there and that is the largest expense. One motor, spindle and bottom rotor is intact. I wish I had the serial back panel. Hey for free you can't beat it. http://i63.tinypic.com/2dt8yvc.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/ws1zt.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/2nura4j.jpg Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 so, how many 145's do you have now, Jason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 Dave just this one. The last one I sold downstate in Hammondsport NY. It was a nightmare to get running. Wes really helped me out with that one as it needed so much work. I think this is the 11th 145 I have come across. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjd Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Whether it's a rescue dog or a rescue Leslie, congrats! -- pj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Hopefully the motor still works. Hard to believe they would cannibalize one and leave the other. My brother gave me the heads up and I just don't have room for another Leslie and I have too many projects on the back burner. Then I thought of Jason. Can't beat free!!! About a year ago there was a near-empty Leslie on Rochester CL, wonder if that was the same one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Yeah that's a really good score even if you need to buy some parts for it. I am always low key looking for a smaller road Leslie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 Todd (B3Nut) said he would get parts for it Eric and add it to his fleet. I member here PM'd me and has an amp. It would take awhile to build it back to working condition. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 It's gone now, but for a while back in the early '00s, I had a beater cabinet that was a chopped down 147 with handles and painted black (not my work, but acquired it that way). It had everything fully functional (speakers, motors, etc.) but never had an amp. For a short period of time, I was "borrowing" the amp from my home 122 and using it in the road Leslie, which worked out pretty well. I've sometimes thought about doing the same if I found a beater cabinet again, though the Vent does such a nice job for gigs when there's not the right space to set up and mic a real Leslie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotiDave Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 oh, you guys and your projects ... Quote The baiting I do is purely for entertainment value. Please feel free to ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Sounds like a classic, sideways win-win. You're right about the refurb work, but its also a time-honored practice to offer things for needed spares. A tech I really liked turned 3 dead MiniMoogs into one great hot-rodded instrument. I believe Thomas Dolby rescued his first synth from a trash bin. This differs greatly from people who wish their noisy kids would throw their synths INTO one! Congrats on the positive find. Quote "I want to be an intellectual, but I don't have the brainpower. The absent-mindedness, I've got that licked." ~ John Cleese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Jeez...wish I lived in a neighborhood where people threw fun things away. Grey Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 It just dawned on me: I bet the previous owner had no clue how to adjust the belt for the lower rotor, and probably thought the motor was bad. Belt adjustment for that rotor is tricky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 I gave it to Wes last night for a backline Leslie. He can use it but it needs a lot of work. We found out it wasn't roaded by the wear and tear on the cabinet. If anything it was improperly stored but still needs a slew of parts. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesG Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 It's going to be an awesome cabinet once I'm done with it!! It's sturdy, all the trim is there, the finish is alright. I can't wait to evaluate the motors. The lower stack tire appears original and has some wear, but still has a round profile -- good chance the motors are fine. Severely worn tires often indicate worn motor bearings, since the severe wear is usually accompanied by excess radial thrust. Quote Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Awesome. Some things are well worth the restore effort. The fact that the cabinet is solid is a good head start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share Posted April 8, 2019 Well yesterday I made the trip up to Kingston and Wes and I dug into the cabinet a little more. We were amazed at the Howard's Restore finish. It brought the finish back to life. In a few spots there was what's called "ghosting" where some moisture got under the finish. It may have gotten wet outside or it was kept near a wet tarp or something. Wes polished and buffed out some paint splotches as it was probably stored where someone was doing some painting? From the date codes we learned it was from 1970. http://i67.tinypic.com/24gofih.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/mv0sib.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/5y4x1j.jpg http://i67.tinypic.com/2it62r6.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/33l1fyh.jpg Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Wow! Nice work, fellas. Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesG Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 And it ain't done! I expect that now that the finish has been RAF'd that the moisture will be able to evaporate once we get a few HOT days; at that point, I wax the cabinet. and it should really pop. BTW - the weird sheen in the last pic is actually a reflection of my white truck. Besides Howard's Restor-a-Finish (walnut), applied mostly with #0000 steel wool, we used some #150 sandpaper and a 300 grit sanding sponge for a VERY problematic spill(?!), and Howard's Polishing Compound. The polishing compound was used to remove paint splatter...probably an interior-paint roller was used too close to this unit. I'm also going to try and upgrade this guy to plywood shelves at some point...will probably buy a router and table and make them myself. The Valhalla stuff is nice, but if this goes well, I will upgrade my single-speed cabs as well. Once I'm done with the shelves...I have guts on hand to populate it. Maybe more posts to follow. Gotta finish that C2 I'm working on first, though. And then there's an A100 I also need up and running. It never ends. Gotta love it! Quote Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa Gherkin Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 WOW!! Amazing results. I have bookmarked this page in case I forget about Howard's. Simply incredible work. My hat's off to ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 That cleaned up quite nicely! What a cool find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bif_ Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Really beautiful. Amazing finish restoration. Quote Kurzweil Forte, Yamaha Motif ES7, Muse Receptor 2 Pro Max, Neo Ventilator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I love 145's...really looks good! They are the Leslie model I fell in love with 1st . . . Quote CP-50, YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, Kurzweil SP6, XK-3, CX-3, Hammond XK-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Now THAT is proper Gear Porn! Quote "I want to be an intellectual, but I don't have the brainpower. The absent-mindedness, I've got that licked." ~ John Cleese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxcvbnm098 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 WOW!! Amazing results. I have bookmarked this page in case I forget about Howard's. Simply incredible work. My hat's off to ya. I was just thinking the same thing! I've never heard of Howard's before..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polkahero Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Howard's is good stuff, been using that for years now whenever my Hammonds or Leslies pick up a scratch from being moved around. Quote '57 Hammond B-3, '60 Hammond A100, Leslie 251, Leslie 330, Leslie 770, Leslie 145, Hammond PR-40 Trek II UC-1A Alesis QSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 I guess Wes and I were so surprised it cleaned up that well as it was found on the side of the road. The guy was an idiot because there is at least $350 worth of parts in there. The cabinet alone is about $200 at least. Once Wes gets the rest of the parts in there we will have a proper Leslie. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillearning Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 I love 145's...really looks good! They are the Leslie model I fell in love with 1st . . . Same here, my first was a 145. Had the pre-amp footswitch and ran a Yamaha YC-30 into it when I was a teen just getting started. Sounded great! Quote I would like to apologize to anyone I have not yet offended. Please be patient and I will get to you shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Well yesterday I made the trip up to Kingston and Wes and I dug into the cabinet a little more. We were amazed at the Howard's Restore finish. It brought the finish back to life. In a few spots there was what's called "ghosting" where some moisture got under the finish. It may have gotten wet outside or it was kept near a wet tarp or something. Wes polished and buffed out some paint splotches as it was probably stored where someone was doing some painting? From the date codes we learned it was from 1970. http://i67.tinypic.com/24gofih.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/mv0sib.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/5y4x1j.jpg http://i67.tinypic.com/2it62r6.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/33l1fyh.jpg Interesting about the Howard Restor. About 11 years ago I picked up my current B3/122 from a warehouse in Baltimore. The organ was 9 of 10, the leslie about 7 of 10. I was going to have the leslie finish redone and Tom Petro suggested that I first try Howard Restor. I was skeptical but it did a fabulous job covering up the scratches and other stains and blems. The one issue I find with the Howard system is that over time (a few months) it seems that the Restor starts to wear off. I find myself having to reapply the Howard about 2-3 times/year. I just re-did the leslie again about 2 weeks ago. My wife suggested to apply Old English 800 and I didnt want her to try it because I was afraid it might have an adverse impact. Well, lo and behold, the Old English did an even better job of covering up imperfections than the Howard Restor did. I dont know if this is because it is applied over the Howard but the leslie looks the best that it has ever looked. Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 Tom would use that and orange oil also Dave. He told me about it as well. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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