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Konig and Meyer Spider Pro #2981148
03/21/19 08:49 PM
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I tried to search as I'm sure it's been discussed before, but there were dozens of unrelated threads and even though I scanned a few, I didn't see anything about this stand.

I can buy a used one here for about $250. In the photos, it seemed cool--I have an SK1 on top and a Px5s on the bottom.

But in person it seems to call an awful lot of attention to itself! And I'm not sure I like the mandatory 15 degree tilt of the upper. And it is HEAVY.

But I might get used to it--anyone here using one and if not, why not? smile

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Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: Jazzooo] #2981152
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I use one and am extremely happy with it. It is pretty heavy but easily manageable in the optional carry bag. It does indeed call attention to itself (I have the silver version) but I tend to be up the back on stage anyways so it's no biggie. As I said though it's solid as a rock thu

Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: nursers] #2981153
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Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: ElmerJFudd] #2981200
03/22/19 10:14 AM
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its beloved by many. I bought one. Discovered it is actually quite heavy. I play single board gigs almost always (i try hard to program keys so i only need one board). I didnít like that the upper level had to be deployed unless I wanted to take the top cap off and completely remove that entire level off the stand.

I sent it back and got an Ultimate Apex AX-48. AX-48 is also heavy but not AS heavy. Quite similar, pros and cons to each. I prefer this more as I have the choice to deploy one or two levels every time i pull out of bag. Odd quibble - i also like how the lateral base legs on the Apex let me push a pedal against it and it acts as a ďstopĒ during a gig, donít need to tape them down. Others much prefer Spider, i would guess it is more substantial and may be sturdier if you have two heavier boards in your rig. just an option ...


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Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: MotiDave] #2981204
03/22/19 10:24 AM
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It's been far and away my favorite stand, I like it so much better than the Apex. Admittedly part of the reason (a small part but I do consider it a pro) is the attention it calls to itself - it's cool-looking on stage and gets comments and compliments. But if it's somewhat heavier than the Apex, I find it much more manageable to deal with and move around, you don't have those legs at the bottom flopping all over the place. The "Baby" version omits the 15-degree tilt on the upper tier if you'd prefer that. But the fact that the arms are part of and fold into the column turns out in the long run much more practical than the Apex where you remove them and store them inside via that plastic lid on top. It's sometimes a pain fishing them out of there but worse, in my experience the top lid would eventually break off and then you'd have to carry the arms separately in your gig bag. Plus the tiers on the Apex are sometimes not level, you have to push them up and down on the ends to get them parallel, this doesn't happen with the K&M either, they are always perfectly horizontal. And 250 is too much to pay for a used one btw. It is true as stated that if you only want to use one tier, you have to remove the other one by first removing the top. Because of that I don't think it's nearly as good if you only want to use one keyboard.


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Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: richforman] #2981206
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I am considering this stand as well .. but need a third tier for my DeepMind 6 (or GAIA on occasion) - (PC1x and XK1 would be on the other two tiers) .... anyone have any experience with the third tier ???


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Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: hazerkeys] #2981209
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Cons - heavy, tilt of upper arms (with stock parts), real estate is not ideal for multiple pedals underneath

Pro - looks (I covered the LARGE logo with tape, but other than that, it looks good on stage), One piece

I tend to use only on bigger gigs, or if I know I'm going to be standing.

Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: ABECK] #2981212
03/22/19 11:48 AM
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I love mine ... had it for couple years now ... purchased from Thomann and shipped here to Maryland much cheaper than any local price I could find.

I added the stronger metal threaded piece for mic boom on top and added a third tier as well ... I have a MicroKorg on top tier and since the arms are too wide I purchased the shelf option that fits on the arms and allows MicroKorg to sit there nicely.

Also, you can purchase additional straight or angled arms ... I purchased straight ones for my middle tier ... so I have (from top to bottom) Microkorg on angled arms, Kurzweil PC361 on middle straight arms, Kurzwel Forte on lower straight arms ... everything feels very solid and stable ...


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Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: ChrisDespo] #2981233
03/22/19 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: ChrisDespo
purchased from Thomann and shipped here to Maryland much cheaper than any local price I could find.


just checked Thomann's website. Looks to be about US $100.00 less than anything available stateside. That's a big percentage on this item.


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Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: ChrisDespo] #2981238
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I found the Spider to be a little wobbly. I ended up with an Apex Pro instead.

I know what you're thinking and yes, the Apex was wobblier than the Spider, but I copied a trick I saw another keyboard player do and added black painted 1/4" steel bars from the ends of the bottom support arms to the legs below. Near zero wobble and almost invisible on stage.




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Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: vonnor] #2981280
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between the custon pedal board and the custom support bars you have taken the Apex stand where it has never gone before, Bill. thu


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Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: davedoerfler] #2981381
03/22/19 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
between the custon pedal board and the custom support bars you have taken the Apex stand where it has never gone before, Bill. thu

I'm a professional, DD. Don't try this at home.

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Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: vonnor] #2981389
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Originally Posted By: vonnor

I'm a professional, DD. Don't try this at home.

Surely I won't, Bill. If need be I'll take Eric's path and pay you to do it for me, if you would be so willing. cool


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Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: davedoerfler] #2981471
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Got one about 6 months ago, love it. My biggest gripe is that K&M is a total money sink. You have to pay for the bag, and BEWARE: the mic mount they include is really terrible, you have to purchase an additional mic bracket for it to really be sturdy with a boom (which everyone will probably want to do anyway). That said, one of the arm nobs stripped in about 3 months, and they were nice enough to send me a new one no charge, but other than that, they're a bit of money-grubbers.

When playing with one board, I carry around an elastic headband, it's perfect for keeping the upper arms folded up while I put the single board on the primary arms. It looks funky and I wouldn't use it for a gig, but it's perfect for rehearsals.

I love the fact that it folds up so small, I can just leave it in the trunk of my car, and still have room for other gear. It moves a little, but it's rock solid. I won't lie, I loved and still miss my old QuikLok Z71-ALU stand, but they ceased making a second-tier and that would have gotten cumbersome to setup anyway. Love Z stands, but columns are probably my future.

It's not really practical with 3-tiers though. You can do it, but you can't fold it up, so it would only make sense as a stay-at-home stand. Overall, I'm very happy with my purchase. I tried an Apex and was really dubious about the wobbliness, and I really hate the legs at the bottom. Spider just makes sense!


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Re: Konig and Meyer Spider Pro [Re: EricBarker] #2981474
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i dont have issues with Apex wobble. i had a huge problem with x-stands until i started taping the bottom of the board to the stand. i almost threw my board off the X a couple times. i guess i get a lil excited at times ...


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