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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: RichF] #2972985
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Originally Posted By: RichF
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Can the S1000 or S3000 act as an audio interface from the USB port?


The USB ports on PX-S models is for USB-MIDI only and doesn't act as an audio interface.


Ok. Thanks.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: mcpepe] #2973010
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Can the USB on the PX-S models trigger Pianoteq? If so, My guess is that you would have to send the audio from the audio out on the computer or use a separate audio interface.
Correct?
I wish Casio would Let the USB be full functioning.

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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: brooster1] #2973014
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Any keyboard with either USB MIDI or 5-pin DIN MIDI can trigger Pianoteq. With USB as on the PX-S, just run a USB cable from the piano to the computer. But I think your question is not really about triggering Pianoteq, but about how you will hear Pianoteq. If you want to hear Pianoteq through the Casio's internal speakers, yes, you'd run a cable from the Audio Out of your computer or interface to the 1/8" stereo audio in of the PX. Of course, you'd also have the option of listening to Pianoteq through any other speakers connected to your computer (or through headphones).


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: AnotherScott] #2973039
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
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I listened very carefully to every demo of the S1000's "Electric Piano", repeatedly... It's a Dyno-Rhodes type (dingy bell attack) with Chorus effect built in.

I'm not doubting that the S1000 has a dyno-sounding Rhodes sound in it... I'm asking how you know that that is the *only* Rhodes sound in it. The model it's superseding has two, so I'm surprised to hear this only has one.


In the video with Rich Formidoni at Kraft, he steps through the 4 electric pianos in order: Dyno-Chorus-Rhodes (D key), DX7 type 1 (Eb key), DX7 type 2 (E key), Wurly with Tremolo (F key), and continues on with Harpsichord (F# key), Vibes (G key), Strings (Ab key), etc...

It's at 5:00, I watched the video clip at .75 and .50 speeds with Sony MDR 7506 headphones to make sure of what I was hearing.

Thus, one has to buy the S3000 to get a decent clean Rhodes tone.



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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+] #2973051
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
In the video with Rich Formidoni at Kraft, he steps through the 4 electric pianos in order: Dyno-Chorus-Rhodes (D key), DX7 type 1 (Eb key), DX7 type 2 (E key), Wurly with Tremolo (F key), and continues on with Harpsichord (F# key), Vibes (G key), Strings (Ab key), etc...

Thanks, good catch. I'm not a fan of that Rhodes sound either. Though I'm not sure what the Eb key EP is!


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+] #2973052
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Having to hold down a button and then touch one of the lowest octave keys to pick a sound seems like a very unapppealing result of the user interface choices. Iíd much rather have a screen and use a push-button dial to scroll, sort of like on the Numa Compact 2 and 2X, or have up and down buttons.

If the S-1000 had a built in audio interface which allowed playing iPad instruments through the line outs, Iíd be extremely interested. I very much like a board this light with a keybed reported to feel as good as it does, but I think a built-in audio interface for easy iOS integration will be a sine qua non to any new keyboards purchased for me moving forward.

Very interested to see what Casio will do with PX-5S replacement Mike has hinted at.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: tfort] #2973058
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Patch changing while holding a button is not a problem for me.

The PX-S1000 has AUDIO IN : Yes (Stereo mini)

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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+] #2973064
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
The PX-S1000 has AUDIO IN : Yes (Stereo mini)


My new iPad Pro has no headphone out, unless I use a dongle adapter. One USB cable between an iPad or phone and the keyboard would be so nice and clean...

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: tfort] #2973071
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The PX-S1000 has Blue Tooth and USB TO HOST.


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I wonder why only the S1000 is available also in white. White S3000, please.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+] #2973082
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
The PX-S1000 has Blue Tooth and USB TO HOST.

Casio's USB TO HOST is for MIDI only, not audio... audio is the "missing feature" tfort is asking about, which some other boards can do. Bluetooth isn't a substitute for this because of latency.


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Ok, which digital piano does have USB Audio ?

By the way, did you see my reply: 4 electric pianos in order: Dyno-Chorus-Rhodes (D key), DX7 type 1 (Eb key), DX7 type 2 (E key), Wurly with Tremolo (F key), and continues on with Harpsichord (F# key), Vibes (G key), Strings (Ab key), etc...
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
Ok, which digital piano does have USB Audio ?

By the way, did you see my reply: 4 electric pianos in order: Dyno-Chorus-Rhodes (D key), DX7 type 1 (Eb key), DX7 type 2 (E key), Wurly with Tremolo (F key), and continues on with Harpsichord (F# key), Vibes (G key), Strings (Ab key), etc...
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Pretty sure Scott's comment was dry humor as in the Eb EP doesn't sound like what it's supposed to?


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+] #2973137
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
Ok, which digital piano does have USB Audio ?



The Numa Compact series does as well as Dexibellís pianos.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Radagast] #2973149
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Originally Posted By: Mighty Motif Max
Pretty sure Scott's comment was dry humor as in the Eb EP doesn't sound like what it's supposed to?

Right, I didn't recognize it as an FM piano, or any other particular recognizable piano sound.

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Ok, which digital piano does have USB Audio


The Numa Compact series does as well as Dexibellís pianos.

Also some Yamahas including MX88 and the new CP73/CP88; some Rolands including DS88, RD-2000 and FA-08.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: tfort] #2973168
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Originally Posted By: tfort
Having to hold down a button and then touch one of the lowest octave keys to pick a sound seems like a very unapppealing result of the user interface choices. Iíd much rather have a screen and use a push-button dial to scroll, sort of like on the Numa Compact 2 and 2X, or have up and down buttons.
That's because the PX-S1000 is theÖ less expensive model. The PX-S3000 has a screen and dedicated buttons, etc.

This interface method (Function button and keyboard key) has been used by Casio for years on models such as the CDP-1xx series and the PX-1xx series.

However, both new models can be configured with the Chordana Play for Piano app. This is new for the four newly announced Casios (CDP-S and PX-S series).

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Originally Posted By: tfort
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The PX-S1000 has AUDIO IN : Yes (Stereo mini)


My new iPad Pro has no headphone out, unless I use a dongle adapter. One USB cable between an iPad or phone and the keyboard would be so nice and clean...


Exactly why Casio should be doing what other keyboard companies are doing.

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If itís true that I cannot play my iPad and iPhone sound engines using USB into the sound system of the PX-S3000, then itís a deal breaker.

Why not audio out of the i-device into audio-in of the PX? Yes, one more cable to run, but dealbreaker? (Yes, better if you have an earlier i-device with a headphone out, or an interface that has an audio out.)


As noted above Apple is making it more cluttered to use headphone outputs on their iPads. Also, I might want to use the audio in on the PX-S3000 for something else. Progress should be simplifying things not making them more complicated. Other companies can do it. So can Casio. Maybe at NAMM 2020 theyíll catch up.

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What is the Canadian pricing for these? Casio Canada just redirects to Casio USA, so I figure that Rich or Mike would know.

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Originally Posted By: conundrum
What is the Canadian pricing for these? Casio Canada just redirects to Casio USA, so I figure that Rich or Mike would know.


Just poking around online some Canada Casio retailers I am seeing the PX-5S going for $1299, and the PX-560 going for $1499.

Compared to some USA retailer the PX-5S is $999, and the PX-560 is $1199.

The few Canadian retailers I checked do not have the new PXS1000 or 3000 listed yet.
A major USA retailer has the S1000 at $599 and the S3000 at $799

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I just pre-ordered a S3000 from Adam at Kraft, free shipping.


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I will after I do a careful side by side of the PX-S3000 with my current Casio Privia PX-360. I will be mostly considering the action, the Grand Piano, the clean tone Rhodes, the Vibes, and the performance ability of the speakers. Those are the main factors I care about.


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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
Clean tone "Electric Piano" (Fender Rhodes) "blowing" at 14:15. I guess there are multiple EP Fender Rhodes in the S3000 and one Dyno-Rhodes with Chorus built in in the S1000.







What is the name of the Tone he's playing at 14:15? It's a clean tone Rhodes sound and the sole reason I pre-ordered a S3000 instead of a S1000.


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Anyone found a user manual for the PX-S3000? If not - Mike, can you tell us when it will be available?

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I think they are still working on finalizing the Tones and manuals. Iím praying for a fantastic clean tone Fender Rhodes Suitcase in the S3000 that is expressive and realistic.
I heard shipping is in April.


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1. JAZZ SOLOING at 0:44 (single note blowing with Steve Weingart Duo)

2. Clean tone "Fender Rhodes Suitcase" at 3:22 (single note blowing with Larry Dunn of EWF)


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So... I play a PX5s and am actually a Casio endorser down here in Mexico. I really want to fall in love with the 3000. I played it at NAMM and it sounded and felt excellent but about the same to me, given the environment. I doubt Iíd be disappointed by the sound.

Am I really the only one who predicts the smooth and shiny black surface is going to look terrible after a few minutes of touching? And am I the only one to notice the increase in weight over the PX5s?

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