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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 and S3000 [Re: Mike Martin] #2990267
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I just realized that when using the built in drum machine on the s 3000 that it reacts to your playing .I was using the jazz drummer for back up timing while playing Fly Me To the Moon on my Dexibell and it just kept a straight simple beat ,then I tried playing it on the Casio and the drums were all over the place which was harder to keep in time with but it makes a great practice tool , it also sounds pretty nice .

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Originally Posted By: pianomike
I just realized that when using the built in drum machine on the s 3000 that it reacts to your playing .I was using the jazz drummer for back up timing while playing Fly Me To the Moon on my Dexibell and it just kept a straight simple beat ,then I tried playing it on the Casio and the drums were all over the place which was harder to keep in time with but it makes a great practice tool , it also sounds pretty nice .


Huh.... following chords is your basic arranger capability, but the rythym following your playing? Examples please!


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 and S3000 [Re: Randelph] #2990296
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I haven't used the S3000 arranger features YET.

With full blown arranger keyboards, you can have the rhythm section change based on chord types/performance but even then these variations are all pre-programmed and predictable. I wouldn't expect the S3000 to do this because that's more like advanced arranger features.

I'd be also interested to know more about what pianomike had to say:

"I just realized that when using the built in drum machine on the s 3000 that it reacts to your playing"

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 and S3000 [Re: Randelph] #2990297
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Randelph I don't know for shore but I only got the same straight beat over and over again wen I played the dexibell ,but when I went to play the casio it added some fills to it. I did record the casio and my timing is off but you can here it doesn't stay the same all the way through so my thinking is because its listening to what I am playing , have to find out from Mike Martin for shore , go to mike lupinetti on you tube , Fly Me To The Moon .

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 and S3000 [Re: pianomike] #2990301
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I like the Jazz 01 Steady Jazz Rhythm and it’s ride cymbal variation. However, I am sure it does not react to my playing ( that would have been highly touted by Casio if it could do that.) What I do hear is two 8 bar loops that have a variety of different kicks . It always loops the same whether I am playing or not.

I also like the 01 Bossa and the 22 Calypso rhythms.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 and S3000 [Re: pianomike] #2990315
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Mike, I tried to listen YouTube but while there were several versions, none had rhythm playing that I could find.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 and S3000 [Re: Jazzooo] #2990321
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I will have to try the Dexibell again , maybe I was too busy reading the sheet music ,but I thought the drum sound just kept repeating the same straight beat when not playing the casio . I will just follow the drum beat by itself and see if it does anything different when playing the casio . I might have an over vivid imagination .

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Jazzooo , it was the last recording I made so it should be the first one you come to , you should be able to tell I have a Dexibell behind me and a Casio in front of me.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 and S3000 [Re: pianomike] #2990334
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Mike, I wonder if you were triggering something while you were playing. I know for some of the built in patterns on some Casio models it will change based on what you play, but I don't know if a straight drum rhythm would.


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I'm not sure what's going on there with the drum part…


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 and S3000 [Re: Joe Muscara] #2990343
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Thanks Joe for setting that up , The only time I added a variation was to end the song , I know when I was playing with the jazz drummer I was trying to play different left hand and right hand phrases so maybe there is a certain way you can get it to trigger a slight response from the drummer . Jazz , I like the first, second , and I think fourth Jazz drum rhthym,s the last one being the Orchestra Swing Rhthym .

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 and S3000 [Re: Joe Muscara] #2990388
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Ok, I watched it (thanks, Joe). Mike, I don’t think you’re going to like what I have to say, but first of all—the drum intro is crazy busy with all the fills and hits and it would probably throw lots of players off. After that you never really synced up to it properly. Your time is pretty fluid and the Casio’s time is the opposite. It’s like a metronome— it does not sync to you.

I would try to set up or find a simple repeating brush or ride cymbal pattern and get comfortable playing with that first. Playing to a metronome, which this kind of is, is challenging for even the very best players.

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One other thing-I don’t have one of these instruments at this time, but isn’t there some kind of click before starting, so you know where one is? Just starting with the drum fill seems ridiculous, because it could be starting on one, two, three or four or somewhere in between.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 and S3000 [Re: Jazzooo] #2990394
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I have always had trouble playing in time with a drum machine or a metronome and at the beginning of the song I really don't know where to start so I just try to dive in at the right spot . I haven't had any trouble playing with bands which I played in years ago because they were easy to follow and you can hear where everyone is at , its a little harder when you play a little harder on the piano and you drown out the drums its easy to lose the beat .

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The “ Intro” for 01 SteadyJazz is an elaborate 12 measure long “intro”. It’s practically a drum solo, I skip it and press Normal play. I don’t get why it’s so long and busy. I would have made it more practical , 2 or maybe 4 bars long without all the heavy accents and flashy kicks...so, I recommend just pressing Normal and not the Intro. The orange flashing light is always on beat 1. Red light flashes on beats 2 3 4 .
01 Steady Jazz keeps basic quarter note jazz time with brushes and a few modest kicks. It loops two slightly different 8 measure phrases indefinitely.The Variation moves it to a ride cymbal.

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I think the reason 01 Steady Jazz is the first Rhythm in the Jazz Rhythm Library is because it’s the best for accompaniment . It stays out of your way. Most of the other jazz rhythm loops are too busy, they intrude, and are too aggressive, which isn’t very realistic feeling. Subtlety is the key for jazz drum loops, imo. So Casio wisely put the least intrusive rhythm loops in the 01 positions for Jazz and Latin.

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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 and S3000 [Re: Jazz+] #2990409
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Thanks for the tips Jazz I'll try and follow the light and hit the normal button to start off with .

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For Pop (or funky) #45: Modern R&B is good, it has that natural sounding snare drum, it kind of sounds like a real drummer.

“08 UK Beat” is clean eighths and should be in the 01 position, imo.

“20: 16 Beat” is good and clean 16ths. It’s a go to loop.

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“I have always had trouble playing in time with a drum machine or a metronome and at the beginning of the song I really don't know where to start so I just try to dive in at the right spot”

I know this is OT for this thread but I watched several of your unaccompanied videos and I’d like to suggest that this is a worthwhile area to zero in on. If you force yourself to practice with a metronome 10 minutes a day, I feel confidant that you will see and feel improvement within 2-3 weeks, and will really boost your playing to another level in terms of confidence and timing. It will feel terrible at first, but that will get better.

Sorry for the unsolicited advice. I bet 90% of us, including myself, have room for improvement in this area.

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Thanks Jazzoo , I know its good advice , I'll see how it works out .

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 and S3000 [Re: pianomike] #2990745
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“My favorite amp sim for a clean tone Rhodes in my PX-S3000...”

I am realizing the various amp sims have the nicest influence on the S3000’s clean tone Rhodes. Just like Mike Martin mentioned months ago.

I selected DSP 027 Re-Amp 1, and the chose the Fender Twin Reverb 3, listed as “FD-TWRV3”. I like it a lot when I apply it to EP 1 for a clean tone Rhodes. It brings out the single note “clack” sound a clean tone Herbie Rhodes can get. And the Fender Twin Reverb 3 amp has good clarity and balance. It’s my go to Rhodes now.


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I’m editing a jazz organ on my PX-S3000.

The Tone I have selected us the GM Organ 2. It has the best B3 Percussion samples in my opinion.
I’ll need the 2 knobs to be Filter and Resonance to act as sort of psuedo drawbars. I am not a fan of the Rotary and won't be using it.

Now, the DSP that has most of the what I need is:

"DSP Drive Amp 2" which consists of the following 4 Modules:

1. Drive (20 types)
2. Tone Ctrl (3 band EQ)
3. Amp Cab (92 types)
4. Tremolo (fully editable)

But, I also need some Chorus found in Function Parameter 9. I need a good edit to immitate the legendary Hammond C3 Chorus-Vibrato sound. I can post my actual settings if folks need them.


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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
The Tone I have selected us the GM Organ 2. It has the best B3 Percussion samples in my opinion.

When playing a sampled organ that doesn't support single trigger percussion, I tend to avoid any of the samples that have percussion on them, thy always sound fake. Unless you're only playing non-continuous single-note lines (and your other hand is playing either nothing or another sound entirely on the other side of a split).


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Yes, I always have it split with a different Tone, namely “Organ Bass”. Same setup i use on my Mojo 61


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Even though making a representative digital recording might not e easy, I would consider it fun to hear edited example sounds from this new machine.

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Jazz+, I'd be interested in your settings for various Hammond, Rhodes, Clav etc - thanks!

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Played the PX-S3000 today.
Really thought it played and sounded great!
Will definitely pick one up in a few months.


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So many good reports on these pianos!
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Is it true that when I connect to external speakers, the only way to turn off the built-in speakers is to put a dummy plug in the headphone jack? Isn't there a function to turn off built-in speakers when connecting to external speakers? I want to gig my 3000 and connect to my 2 QSC K8's and control the volume to them with my pedal. But this also changes the volume of the built-in speakers. I want to turn them off. It appears that the only way to turn off the built-in speakers is to put a dummy plug in the headphone jack. This seems a basic design flaw. Or am I missing something?

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Originally Posted By: El Lobo
This seems a basic design flaw. Or am I missing something?
It's not a design "flaw." Lots of Casio models including the Privia line worked this way for years. It's a different design philosophy than you're expecting because of most of the target audience.

For the record, I would like to be able to mute the internal speakers via a menu option myself. It will be interesting to see if and when a PX-5S replacement (Privia Pro) ships based on this design a) will it have internal speakers 2) will they be separately mutable.


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