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#2979147 - 03/07/19 12:39 PM OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie
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I know the latest Kronos OS, but no idea about the clever growth of our American English.

Maybe bestie is chick secret language. Or its from a cable TV show where invented word use becomes cool.

Anyway, as a public service , I present 'bestie':

https://thoughtcatalog.com/sydney-nikols/2012/06/5-different-kinds-of-besties/

[snippety snip snip]

-It’s less obvious, perhaps, that said bestie usually consists of at least five separate people who all hold the same, vague title. For those of you who are confused by this phenomenon, allow me to outline the different kinds of best friends that exist here in Lady Town.....


Edited by GregC (03/07/19 12:39 PM)
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#2979149 - 03/07/19 12:51 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: GregC]
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The Bestie Boys?


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#2979152 - 03/07/19 01:02 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: elsongs]
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The Bestie Boys?



that was almost my 1st thought.

This is why copyright is your friend. I hope they are collecting royalty every time 'bestie ' gets used
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#2979168 - 03/07/19 03:03 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: GregC]
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It's Millennial-speak for "best friend," which is not actually one's upper-tier BEST best friend. That title goes to one's BFF (Best Friend Forever).

Although, the definition of "forever" isn't exactly absolute...

Of course, the Millennial definition of "friend" doesn't actually equate to an actual friend, as a "friend" on social media is most likely someone you have never met in person. So basically it boils down to this translation:

MILLENNIAL ACTUAL
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"Friend" = Acquaintance
"Bestie" = (Close) Friend
"BFF" = Best Friend


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#2979169 - 03/07/19 03:14 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: elsongs]
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Originally Posted By: elsongs
It's Millennial-speak for "best friend," which is not actually one's upper-tier BEST best friend. That title goes to one's BFF (Best Friend Forever).

Although, the definition of "forever" isn't exactly absolute...


thats good knowledge.

Origin here, I was in line at the store and two young ladies in front [ late 20's] were conversing about ' bestie coming to town, what should we do ? ' Then the chit chat went into shopping.

In my old male brain I deduced 'bestie ' was not ' ex boyfriend '. Since I thought I heard beastie.

I can see " Bestie " becoming a new keyboard name.
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#2979174 - 03/07/19 03:50 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: GregC]
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True. And when two people are such good inseparable besties, it is said that they share the same reality, and we call it a bestiality.
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#2979205 - 03/07/19 07:42 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: elsongs]
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Originally Posted By: elsongs
It's Millennial-speak......the definition of [which] isn't exactly absolute...


I don't believe anything is absolute to a Millennial.

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#2979206 - 03/07/19 07:46 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: o0Ampy0o]
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Or, some millenials are busting their asses in Engineering and Med School, very cognizant of the world they live in. Some of them can verbalize multiple sentences in a row without using the word "like" too.

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#2979207 - 03/07/19 07:48 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: wd8dky]
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Originally Posted By: wd8dky
Or, some millenials are busting their asses in Engineering and Med School, very cognizant of the world they live in. Some of them can verbalize multiple sentences in a row without using the word "like" too.


Like anything there are exceptions to everything.

Also I edited my post before you had posted.

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#2979221 - 03/07/19 09:46 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: o0Ampy0o]
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Originally Posted By: elsongs
It's Millennial-speak......the definition of [which] isn't exactly absolute...


I don't believe anything is absolute to a Millennial.


Actually, Millennials are VERY absolutist. They love hyperbole. Things like nuance don't exist in their reality. I mean, when they go out to eat, everything they eat has to be either the "BEST THING EVER!" or "WORST THING EVER!" -- at least that's what they write in their Yelp reviews.


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#2979255 - 03/08/19 07:30 AM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: wd8dky]
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Originally Posted By: wd8dky
Or, some millenials are busting their asses in Engineering and Med School, very cognizant of the world they live in. Some of them can verbalize multiple sentences in a row without using the word "like" too.


some are, for sure.

And some post a lot on FaceBook wink
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#2979258 - 03/08/19 07:34 AM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: elsongs]
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Originally Posted By: elsongs
Originally Posted By: o0Ampy0o
Originally Posted By: elsongs
It's Millennial-speak......the definition of [which] isn't exactly absolute...


I don't believe anything is absolute to a Millennial.


Actually, Millennials are VERY absolutist. They love hyperbole. Things like nuance don't exist in their reality. I mean, when they go out to eat, everything they eat has to be either the "BEST THING EVER!" or "WORST THING EVER!" -- at least that's what they write in their Yelp reviews.


one of my old man rants is the lack of interest in recent history [ by many age groups].

Lets say recent history for the past 40 - 50 years.

for many folks, it seems that the world began in 1990, as the Internet gained more traction and greater application
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#2979260 - 03/08/19 07:46 AM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: Bobadohshe]
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Originally Posted By: Bobadohshe
True. And when two people are such good inseparable besties, it is said that they share the same reality, and we call it a bestiality.


LOL. that is a clever turn of vocabulary in a wicked way. smile
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#2979269 - 03/08/19 09:03 AM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: GregC]
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Always interesting to see comments on new slang and expressions in the US. Some of them get adopted in Brazil (BFF is used a lot but I haven't seen Bestie yet, although I was familiar with it), and some are only adopted in higher social classes (for example through watching netflix and other programs in the original languague - English).

At one point I had some British friends and picked some of their slang and expression, and then got looks of bewilderment when I used them with US folks.
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#2979407 - 03/09/19 05:07 AM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: elsongs]
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Originally Posted By: elsongs
Originally Posted By: o0Ampy0o
Originally Posted By: elsongs
It's Millennial-speak......the definition of [which] isn't exactly absolute...


I don't believe anything is absolute to a Millennial.


Actually, Millennials are VERY absolutist. They love hyperbole. Things like nuance don't exist in their reality. I mean, when they go out to eat, everything they eat has to be either the "BEST THING EVER!" or "WORST THING EVER!" -- at least that's what they write in their Yelp reviews.

That is hyperbole. Different than being absolute. You can jump up and down insisting something is something. It is not making it absolute. That is adding drama. Hyperbole is drama. In the context of language and choice of words nothing is definitive. A word will be used whether it is the one that means what they think or not. And they will justify it by describing how it is used in a wrong or right way as though it does not matter as much as the frequency in which it has been used one particular way.

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#2979411 - 03/09/19 06:09 AM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: o0Ampy0o]
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Originally Posted By: o0Ampy0o
Originally Posted By: elsongs
Originally Posted By: o0Ampy0o
[quote=elsongs]It's Millennial-speak......the definition of [which] isn't exactly absolute...


I don't believe anything is absolute to a Millennial.


Actually, Millennials are VERY absolutist. They love hyperbole. Things like nuance don't exist in their reality. I mean, when they go out to eat, everything they eat has to be either the "BEST THING EVER!" or "WORST THING EVER!" -- at least that's what they write in their Yelp reviews.

That is hyperbole. Different than being absolute. You can jump up and down insisting something is something. It is not making it absolute. That is adding drama. Hyperbole is drama. In the context of language and choice of words nothing is definitive. A word will be used whether it is the one that means what they think or not. And they will justify it by describing how it is used in a wrong or right way as though it does not matter as much as the frequency in which it has been used one particular way. [/quote]

I don't have much problem with general statements or assertions of 'what is '.

Millennials are constantly defined and discussed in a demographic and marketing context.
They are a significant group of consumers as co's market to them.

I think media has shown that quirkiness or drama or whatever its called gets attention.
Plus everybody has an opinion about this or that.

I have a zen attitude- 2 things, seeming opposite, can be equally true.
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#2979421 - 03/09/19 06:43 AM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: GregC]
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2 things, seeming opposite, can be equally true.


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#2979423 - 03/09/19 07:12 AM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: o0Ampy0o]
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Originally Posted By: o0Ampy0o

That is hyperbole. Different than being absolute.
In the spirit of being pedantic(1), shouldn't that be "Different from being absolute"?(2)

(1) I looked for a noun that describes "being pedantic", but the online dictionary suggested "pedanticalness", which was just a little too silly looking for me.

(2) Yes, I know that convention is to put punctuation inside the close quote, but it has always seemed to me that the inside of quotes should be reserved for quoted punctuation. I guess that makes me different than from other writers.
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#2979471 - 03/09/19 12:04 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: Tom Williams]
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Originally Posted By: o0Ampy0o

That is hyperbole. Different than being absolute.
In the spirit of being pedantic(1), shouldn't that be "Different from being absolute"?(2)

(1) I looked for a noun that describes "being pedantic", but the online dictionary suggested "pedanticalness", which was just a little too silly looking for me.

(2) Yes, I know that convention is to put punctuation inside the close quote, but it has always seemed to me that the inside of quotes should be reserved for quoted punctuation. I guess that makes me different than from other writers.

roll you are a funny guy truly one of my favorites here.

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#2979479 - 03/09/19 12:46 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: o0Ampy0o]
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All this bestie-ality seems immoral to me. But then i still believe in right and wrong.

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#2979482 - 03/09/19 01:00 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: Jr. Deluxe]
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All this bestie-ality seems immoral to me. But then i still believe in right and wrong.


and its downhill from here- see goat yoga topic
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#2979491 - 03/09/19 03:09 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: GregC]
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I couldn't understand the mystery here surrounding the term "bestie" which, if we going to use labels, dates back to Gen X here. I checked the Australian authorative dictionary, the Macquarie dictionary and found "bestie" was added to the 5th edition published in 2009. Macquarie don't add new words until the meaning is generally accepted and in wide spread use so "bestie" would have been around from at least as far back as 2005.
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#2979506 - 03/09/19 04:52 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: Markay]
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Originally Posted By: Markay
I couldn't understand the mystery here surrounding the term "bestie" which, if we going to use labels, dates back to Gen X here. I checked the Australian authorative dictionary, the Macquarie dictionary and found "bestie" was added to the 5th edition published in 2009. Macquarie don't add new words until the meaning is generally accepted and in wide spread use so "bestie" would have been around from at least as far back as 2005.


it is a mystery.

I tried to look up 'goat yoga' Macquarie and got
"Sorry
We could not find "goat yoga" in the Dictionary. "

huh
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#2979693 - 03/11/19 11:18 AM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: Markay]
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Originally Posted By: Markay
I couldn't understand the mystery here surrounding the term "bestie" which, if we going to use labels, dates back to Gen X here. I checked the Australian authorative dictionary, the Macquarie dictionary and found "bestie" was added to the 5th edition published in 2009. Macquarie don't add new words until the meaning is generally accepted and in wide spread use so "bestie" would have been around from at least as far back as 2005.

Well, Australian slang has always had differences with American Slang, much less with British English though.

I had an Aussie professor in the US who used to finish phrases often with 'and then you're home and hosed'. He had to explain that to all of us, Americans and foreigners included. He had some other funny ones which I don't recall.
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#2979789 - 03/12/19 04:46 AM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: Rod S]
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I couldn't understand the mystery here surrounding the term "bestie" which, if we going to use labels, dates back to Gen X here. I checked the Australian authorative dictionary, the Macquarie dictionary and found "bestie" was added to the 5th edition published in 2009. Macquarie don't add new words until the meaning is generally accepted and in wide spread use so "bestie" would have been around from at least as far back as 2005.

Well, Australian slang has always had differences with American Slang, much less with British English though.

I had an Aussie professor in the US who used to finish phrases often with 'and then you're home and hosed'. He had to explain that to all of us, Americans and foreigners included. He had some other funny ones which I don't recall.


No doubt he was as dry as a dead donkey's donga at the end of each lecture.

I think our love for slang derives from our convict legacy which was disproportionately repesented by Cockneys. Interestingly "home and hosed" is English slang that we have adopted for a horse that is so far ahead it has won and is back in its stable and hosed down before the others have finished the race.
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#2979863 - 03/12/19 12:20 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: Markay]
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FWIW, Mayim Bialik's Big Bang Theory character, Amy Farrah Fowler, has been referring to Kaley Cuoco's character, Penny, as her "bestie" for the better part of a decade now (beginning shortly after Bialik's character joined BBT in 2010). The cast of that popular show spans the Gen X/Millennial bridge.

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#2979898 - 03/12/19 06:35 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: Markay]
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Originally Posted By: Markay
Originally Posted By: Rod S
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I couldn't understand the mystery here surrounding the term "bestie" which, if we going to use labels, dates back to Gen X here. I checked the Australian authorative dictionary, the Macquarie dictionary and found "bestie" was added to the 5th edition published in 2009. Macquarie don't add new words until the meaning is generally accepted and in wide spread use so "bestie" would have been around from at least as far back as 2005.

Well, Australian slang has always had differences with American Slang, much less with British English though.

I had an Aussie professor in the US who used to finish phrases often with 'and then you're home and hosed'. He had to explain that to all of us, Americans and foreigners included. He had some other funny ones which I don't recall.


No doubt he was as dry as a dead donkey's donga at the end of each lecture.

Sounds like his students were a little slow around the scrum base.

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#2980000 - 03/13/19 02:27 PM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: CowboyNQ]
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I've learned quite a few slang expressions in the past 10 years; comes with the territory of being a piano teacher for ages 6 - 70. "BA" gave me pause for a few moments though. Then there was the first time I heard, "Netflix and Chill"...
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#2980062 - 03/14/19 06:35 AM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: allan_evett]
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The most curious one I've heard in the past years in Brazil is PA. Slightly NSFW but kept the language clean.

PA means 'friendly d**k'. Lot of single young woman in their 30s/early 40s just want a friend with benefits for an occasional booty call.

Always amazes me a little bit the number of young woman here in Brazil in this age bracket that have given up long term relationships. Live alone, have nice jobs, active social life, but no interest in long term relationships with a significant other (or so they say, but besides the point and their business). And now they have their PA.
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#2980068 - 03/14/19 07:14 AM Re: OT: New [to me] Word of the day; bestie [Re: Rod S]
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Originally Posted By: Rod S
The most curious one I've heard in the past years in Brazil is PA. Slightly NSFW but kept the language clean.

PA means 'friendly d**k'. Lot of single young woman in their 30s/early 40s just want a friend with benefits for an occasional booty call.

Always amazes me a little bit the number of young woman here in Brazil in this age bracket that have given up long term relationships. Live alone, have nice jobs, active social life, but no interest in long term relationships with a significant other (or so they say, but besides the point and their business). And now they have their PA.


Such is the 'dating ' world, I think. A divorced 45 yr old keyboard buddy is trying to meet someone. It seems impossible .

I recall being single 18 yrs ago and it was nuts back then.
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