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#2974369 - 02/07/19 05:21 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazzooo]
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Originally Posted By: Jazzooo
And am I the only one to notice the increase in weight over the PX5s?


Yes.

PX-5S - 24.47 lbs.
PX-S1000 - 24.7 lbs.
PX-S3000 - 25.1 lbs.

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Am I really the only one who predicts the smooth and shiny black surface is going to look terrible after a few minutes of touching?


Did they look bad at NAMM? No. Hundreds of people were touching them all day.
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#2974372 - 02/07/19 05:33 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazzooo]
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Originally Posted By: Jazzooo
And am I the only one to notice the increase in weight over the PX5s?

PX5S has no amp/speakers. I believe the new PX-S models are lighter than any previous Privia with speakers.
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#2974374 - 02/07/19 05:38 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin]
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Thanks, Mike. I just figured there were Casio elves with windex and paper towels lurking. smile The removal of the mod wheel—how does one apply tremelo to a wurly on the 3000? I need to spend time getting to know how to layer sounds and so on. When I read about it, I see so many features aimed at home users that I just don’t need. I understand that they will be a big market for this one, but there are many things I’ll never use. USB slot for my own performances? The capability to play along with “chart topping” rhythm tracks? The dual piano setting for teachers? But all of the above is true for the PX5s as well. I’m just st a note, tone and feel music maker.

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#2974378 - 02/07/19 05:42 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazzooo]
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Originally Posted By: Jazzooo
Thanks, Mike. I just figured there were Casio elves with windex and paper towels lurking. smile The removal of the mod wheel—how does one apply tremelo to a wurly on the 3000? I need to spend time getting to know how to layer sounds and so on. When I read about it, I see so many features aimed at home users that I just don’t need. I understand that they will be a big market for this one, but there are many things I’ll never use. USB slot for my own performances? The capability to play along with “chart topping” rhythm tracks? The dual piano setting for teachers? But all of the above is true for the PX5s as well. I’m just st a note, tone and feel music maker.


You can add tremolo with a knob. How to layer? Press the layer button then select the tone you want. It is pretty quick.
Yes it has rhythms and other features that you may not use.
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But all of the above is true for the PX5s as well.


No the PX-5S doesn't have rhythms and layering sounds requires you to turn on another zone - it is a different process all together. The PX-5S also doesn't have "duet mode" although you could configure a Stage Setting that way in just a few steps.
Maybe the PX-S3000 isn't for you. Different products for different customers.


Edited by Mike Martin (02/07/19 05:43 PM)
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#2974382 - 02/07/19 05:46 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin]
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I was unclear, sorry—I just meant there are features I’d never use in the PX5s as well. I’m not sure why you sound a little salty, Mike—I did the best I could to learn about it at the show but it’s not the best environment for me.

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#2974384 - 02/07/19 05:49 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazzooo]
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By the way, that is great that the process of layering is simpler on this axe. I use that a bit now but I’d use it more if it were simpler than on the 5s.

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#2974397 - 02/07/19 06:24 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Martin
Originally Posted By: Jazzooo
And am I the only one to notice the increase in weight over the PX5s?


Yes.

PX-5S - 24.47 lbs.
PX-S1000 - 24.7 lbs.
PX-S3000 - 25.1 lbs.



Mike, that 10 oz difference of the S3000 over the 5S is unacceptable [/sarcasm]

Quick q: does the S3000 accept ProgramChange over midi?
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#2974404 - 02/07/19 06:44 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Quick q: does the S3000 accept ProgramChange over midi?


Yes
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#2974420 - 02/07/19 07:55 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin]
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#2974426 - 02/07/19 08:11 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+]
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This is the first Casio that has interested me. Obviously, packed with great voices and a decent action. Built-in speakers? Battery powered? I might have found my new go-to-a-party board.
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#2974599 - 02/08/19 02:56 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: cphollis]
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The built in speakers are the most intriguing addition for me--my Latin jazz group rehearses at really reasonable volume levels and I'd love to just show up with this axe and and stand and nothing else.

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#2974601 - 02/08/19 02:57 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazzooo]
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Add a very small lightweight mono floor amp and you can be as loud as a grand piano. It really enhances the piano's bass notes. I've been going to solo piano gigs for years like that. So the on-board speakers handle the highs and the little amp handles the bass reinforcement.
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#2974645 - 02/08/19 05:20 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+]
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Are there any screen shots, I guess you'd call them, of the controls which appear on the front panel of the PXS3000 once powered up?

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#2974737 - 02/09/19 07:41 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazzooo]
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Is it possible to drive my X5dr rack mount with standard 5 pin midi ports with this new Casio without using a computer? I noticed two types of usb connectors on the Casio. Can either usb connector drive a simple usb-to-midi convertor hooked directly to my X5dr (korg)?

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#2974753 - 02/09/19 08:11 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: ap297]
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Originally Posted By: ap297
Is it possible to drive my X5dr rack mount with standard 5 pin midi ports with this new Casio without using a computer? I noticed two types of usb connectors on the Casio. Can either usb connector drive a simple usb-to-midi convertor hooked directly to my X5dr (korg)?

The short answer is no, but these "less simple"ones should work...

www.hobbytronics.co.uk/usb-midi-converter

www.kentonuk.com/products/items/utilities/usb-host.shtml

www.excelvalley.com/product/midi-usb-din-converter/

www.compasflamenco.com/midi-c-3/usb-host-midi-2-p-6.html

www.thomann.de/gb/miditech_usb_midi_host.htm

www.thomann.de/gb/mode_machines_cerebel_usb.htm

They also need to be powered.

Another variable would be what Casio controls send MIDI, and what control you have over that. For example, on most keyboards, changing the patch from the front panel also sends out a MIDI Program Change, and there may or may not be a way to turn that off. So you could end up in a situation where calling up a different sound on your board sends an undesired program change to an attached module. Being able to manage the sounds on the Casio and the X5dr in combination could be another reason you want to bring some kind of computer (even just an iPhone/iPad) into the mix.
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#2974763 - 02/09/19 08:23 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazzooo]
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Originally Posted By: Jazzooo
Are there any screen shots, I guess you'd call them, of the controls which appear on the front panel of the PXS3000 once powered up?


Not yet. The front panel controls actually change completely depending on what you're doing, so not all the controls are lit up at once.
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#2974892 - 02/10/19 03:10 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin]
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Mike Martin , I would like to know if you would be able to make some videos with the S 3000 recording it through the on board speakers or through a mixer and speakers so we can get a more accurate picture of what it would sound like in a live situation , it sounds great coming through a recorder . Thanks .

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#2974911 - 02/10/19 07:25 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: pianomike]
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Originally Posted By: pianomike
Mike Martin , I would like to know if you would be able to make some videos with the S 3000 recording it through the on board speakers or through a mixer and speakers so we can get a more accurate picture of what it would sound like in a live situation , it sounds great coming through a recorder . Thanks .
That's kind of hard, as the environment can have a big effect on how it would sound, as well as the method of recording including mics, mic position, etc. (Not to mention your own listening environment when listening to any recording.) Frankly, that might be something you'll have to test for yourself when it's shipping. I'd suggest buying it from someplace with a good return policy. smile
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#2974915 - 02/10/19 07:54 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Joe Muscara]
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I believe a number of the live at NAMM videos, in this thread, reveal the on-board speakers in that wild audio environment.
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#2974918 - 02/10/19 08:25 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+]
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Just an aside - what exactly would one learn by hearing a recording of how a keyboard's on board speakers sound on the NAMM floor? Is that the typical listening environment Casio – or any other keyboard manufacturer that makes a slab DP with built-in speakers – designs for? I'm pretty sure it isn't.

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#2974922 - 02/10/19 09:12 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Reezekeys]
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The best way (for me, the only way) to audition internal speaker sound quality is to listen in person. I don't trust recordings of them. It's easy to get the wrong impression from a recording.

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#2975434 - 02/12/19 07:26 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Brad Saucier]
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#2975438 - 02/12/19 07:36 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+]
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What can be edited on the PX-S3000 Electric Piano other than Reverb and Chorus???
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#2975472 - 02/13/19 06:51 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+]
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What can be edited on the PX-S3000 Electric Piano other than Reverb and Chorus???


The insert effects. 90+ amplifier profiles and more. Details to come.
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#2975501 - 02/13/19 09:32 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Brad Saucier]
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The best way (for me, the only way) to audition internal speaker sound quality is to listen in person. I don't trust recordings of them. It's easy to get the wrong impression from a recording.

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#2975559 - 02/13/19 02:58 PM Tom Brislin plays PX-S3000
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#2975574 - 02/13/19 04:19 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: AnotherScott]
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Just curious, do the assignable knobs send MIDI cc so I can use while controlling VSTs?

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#2975593 - 02/13/19 05:03 PM Re: Tom Brislin plays PX-S3000 [Re: Jazz+]
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He doesn’t appear to be adapting his technique here for the action, at least not significantly. At about 24lbs and being this slim, how is it the keyboard isn’t sliding on this table? Velcro’d In place? I can’t wait till one shows up near me - it has to be tried out. Not sure I’ll plunge - but it will be a good indicator of what we can expect from PX-5S Part Deux.
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#2975619 - 02/13/19 06:11 PM Re: Tom Brislin plays PX-S3000 [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I would guess they put rubber feet under it like most keyboards.
I think Mike Martin said this is the Stage Piano Tone and not the 001 Grand Piano Tone.
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#2975812 - 02/14/19 05:53 PM Re: Tom Brislin plays PX-S3000 [Re: Adan]
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I am not familiar with this piece.

I never listened to Kansas in the 70's... it surprises me how ambitious it is. Quite a feat of memorization. You would just about have to make a religion out of this.

But once again... the Casio comes off well in the recording, and continues to perk interest. The obviously well qualified people playing these things don't seem to be having any issues.

Has Casio really done it this time?

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