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Re: In the pocket - examples [Re: Dave Bryce] #2975246 02/12/19 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Two words: Al Green.
Here's another... I believe that Al is completely in the pocket! Towards the end they are just jammin, damn



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Re: In the pocket - examples [Re: waygetter] #2975248 02/12/19 07:50 AM
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I am thinking this man is about my favorite singer of this style. Not an easy choice with Marvin Gaye, James Brown, Al Green in the wing .. He tickles my funny bone with this fantastic groove with the whole band, and his amazing rhythmic sense.




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Re: In the pocket - examples [Re: I-missRichardTee] #2975249 02/12/19 08:21 AM
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Not sure if this belongs here, but an old favorite.


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Re: In the pocket - examples [Re: Adan] #2975256 02/12/19 09:00 AM
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It's amazing to me how 70% of people can't play in the pocket.


And then there's people like me, for whom playing in the pocket is the only thing they do really well. I'm just a hack at everything else, but being a pocket player has meant having as many gigs as I could handle over the years.


I really wish I could say that about my own playing. I've been paying more and more attention to playing "in the pocket". I realize (too late) that it really doesn't mean anything if it's not tight. Took me some years to learn. Although I'm getting better, I'm not there yet.


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Can't talk about "pockets" without the vulfpeck/fearless flyer guys!



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There are lots of deep grooves from different cultures. Here is Jon Cleary's band showing a NOLA way to enjoy the pocket ...


Re: In the pocket - examples [Re: davedoerfler] #2975280 02/12/19 11:14 AM
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you are not missing anything. That is a very, very good track. thu

Thanks, Dave!

I'd love to say I wish I'd played on it....but I kinda don't. I like the way it came out just fine under the care of much better players than I, and am happy to have written and mixed it.

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Steve Jordan dr Marcus Miller eb Ricky Peterson B3 Sanborn as
Marcus is credited with the song




Maceo




Bruno remake out of Nashville



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Re: In the pocket - examples [Re: waygetter] #2975306 02/12/19 01:10 PM
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In a follow up to niacin's post with Jon Cleary:

Great grooves, both of them!! For absolute in the pocket-ness though I prefer the original versions by the Meters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoBIp817miY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QYbZsBPawI

And my all-time favorite Meters groove & personal choice for funkiest song ever, Hey Pocky A-Way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFz9GEYLq80

They were an example of 4 (and 5, once Cyrille was added to the group) players totally locked to the pocket.

Re: In the pocket - examples [Re: Adan] #2975311 02/12/19 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: Adan
Originally Posted By: Outkaster
It's amazing to me how 70% of people can't play in the pocket.


And then there's people like me, for whom playing in the pocket is the only thing they do really well. I'm just a hack at everything else, but being a pocket player has meant having as many gigs as I could handle over the years.


Good that's great to hear.


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Jorge D'alto bad boy on keys
Harvey Mason impeccable Drummer

Even though tempo is a hair fast due to playing live excitement, they make it feel good


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Kenny Kirkland's comping on this track is outstanding in my mind. Outside Salsa piano.. I hunger to hear pop, fusion, funk etc keyboard parts that are this rhythmic.



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Check out Greg Allman on Elizabeth Reed here at 3:42:


Re: In the pocket - examples [Re: Paul Harrison] #2975345 02/12/19 03:53 PM
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I remember seeing this interview with Maceo Parker as part of the PBS "History of Rock & Roll" back in 1995, and I have remembered it ever since as maybe the most perfect example of pocket I have ever seen:

https://youtu.be/a9Uybhk4_6A?t=473

tl:dr: Maceo has more funk in one drop of his spit than most people have in their entire body.

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Does anyone know if these are the same bass and drum legends, Rainey and Purdie, on both recordings?


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Re: In the pocket - examples [Re: I-missRichardTee] #2975398 02/12/19 07:16 PM
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Sorry, I cannot stop, this is my favorite topic

Steve Jordan and Marcus Miller with Ricky Peterson... whoa.





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Once you figure out where 'in the pocket" is, being "out of the pocket" will give you hives. I play with one band where it's never even close, and it feels like trying to do a 40 yard dash on a hockey rink all night long.....

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Originally Posted By: area51recording
Once you figure out where 'in the pocket" is, being "out of the pocket" will give you hives. I play with one band where it's never even close, and it feels like trying to do a 40 yard dash on a hockey rink all night long.....
Why? Is the pay good or are you good friends?

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Originally Posted By: danstein
I remember seeing this interview with Maceo Parker as part of the PBS "History of Rock & Roll" back in 1995, and I have remembered it ever since as maybe the most perfect example of pocket I have ever seen:

https://youtu.be/a9Uybhk4_6A?t=473

tl:dr: Maceo has more funk in one drop of his spit than most people have in their entire body.


That was great! smile

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Once you figure out where 'in the pocket" is, being "out of the pocket" will give you hives. I play with one band where it's never even close, and it feels like trying to do a 40 yard dash on a hockey rink all night long.....
Why? Is the pay good or are you good friends?

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Pay is good

Re: In the pocket - examples [Re: area51recording] #2975429 02/12/19 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: area51recording
Pay is good


And we know where pay goes...


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Re: In the pocket - examples [Re: waygetter] #2975432 02/13/19 12:16 AM
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So many examples of "pocket playing". Here's one by the Meters, as mentioned on page 1. Cissy Strut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_iC0MyIykM


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Pay is good


And we know where pay goes...




Sure do. To everyone but me....

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Just to add to the Jon Cleary examples, this particular track has maximum groove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeQNe8XFiLI

Sly Stone's In Time has quite the intricate pocket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mld7eSaydI

And this D'angelo live pocket is pretty wild (it kicks in around 2:30 minutes in)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu1JVTvzzxM


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That whole album is awesome.
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Sly Stone's In Time has quite the intricate pocket


Thankful and Thoughful is another one with some genius pocket going on....


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Here's a track from a Hungarian singer. Pay attention to the drums specifically. The track travels through an incredible dynamic arc, yet the drums stay laid back and relaxed throughout, even in the climax.



There's an English version but the singing is not as good.



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Originally Posted By: kanker.
That whole album is awesome.
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Sly Stone's In Time has quite the intricate pocket


Thankful and Thoughful is another one with some genius pocket going on....


Great and creative funk song. But that great bass part, is something for me to spend a lot of time with .


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Just about anything Victor Wooten is on.


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