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#2974547 - 02/08/19 11:12 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Dreamchilde]
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I was taught the secret to a good smear was spraying Pledge on the keys.
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#2974660 - 02/08/19 06:56 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: David Loving]
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Just don't get any on the wood. The crap makes it almost impossible to refinish properly.

Really, the secret AFAICT is just the right angle and the right spot.
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#2974693 - 02/08/19 09:55 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: WesG]
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Well, the crowd I play to seems to love the lame smears I do. Something to get better at!
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#2974724 - 02/09/19 04:56 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: cphollis]
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Nice, did you all know the synth in Fly Like An Eagle was an SH-2000 on the clarinet setting?
Favorite Hammond smears, I donít know thereís a lot of them. Maybe a gospel song or 2 that Iíve listened to. The music I listen to has more YC-45D and Farfisa VIP/Professional/Fast organs. Some of the settings on the organ sound great.
I think this is Hammond though. Maybe a YC-45D through a Leslie because I hear the vibes setting in this song.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bl1_I_4WK0o&t=60
No matter what organ it is, nice smears by Pompi S. Solo around 1:00.
Hereís Steve Miller - The Window. Nice SH-2000 intro.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DykTBGDHSBI


Edited by Music Bird (02/09/19 05:03 AM)
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#2974748 - 02/09/19 08:06 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Ethel did all that stuff decades before. Amazing technique.



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Originally Posted By: BbAltered
I have always thought Fly Like an Eagle is one of the best examples of rock Hammond playing. I too turn it up when it comes on my radio.

+100. The way that man makes that Hammond sing completely knocks me out - especially the pedal and drawbar control.

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#2974802 - 02/09/19 10:36 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Music Bird]
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Originally Posted By: Music Bird
Nice, did you all know the synth in Fly Like An Eagle was an SH-2000 on the clarinet setting?


Wikipedia says itís Steve Miller on an ARP Odyssey, but that could very well be wrong.


Edited by Sundown (02/09/19 10:36 AM)
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#2974820 - 02/09/19 01:01 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Sundown]
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The album says Roland though. He didnít use the Odyssey til Threshold and Jet Airliner.
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#2974856 - 02/09/19 07:48 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Music Bird]
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Always loved the FLAE Hammond smears, stutters, and the whole sonic menagerie...but I gotta give it up for the Hammond wizardry on this, too:

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#2974859 - 02/09/19 08:01 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Dreamchilde]
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Steve Winwood has some really nice smears on Empty Pages.


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#2975073 - 02/11/19 09:08 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: wineandkeyz]
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Originally Posted By: wineandkeyz
In addition to some of the folks already mentioned, I've always dug Seth Justman's work with the J. Geils Band -- especially on their live stuff (which imho is where they were at their best). He does some wicked palm smears in "First I Look at the Purse" from the Full House album.

+1 Also "Serves you right to Suffer" from Full House
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#2975088 - 02/11/19 10:21 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: hurricane hugo]
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Originally Posted By: hurricane hugo
Always loved the FLAE Hammond smears, stutters, and the whole sonic menagerie...but I gotta give it up for the Hammond wizardry on this, too:



Also awesome, also covered in past posts. Dick Sims with a Bill Beers chop and a wah pedal. RIP....https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/longtime-eric-clapton-band-member-dick-sims-dies-182669/


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#2975089 - 02/11/19 10:25 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: zxcvbnm098]
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This is also a technique that a lot of guys use to much on a Hammond.
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#2975110 - 02/11/19 12:02 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Outkaster]
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What outcaster said^^^

I play in a band that has a second keys player. He's used to using a Hammond sound to pad out a lot of songs, especially ballads. He LOVES using big smears to bring in choruses/intros/endings. Completely inappropriate.
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#2975112 - 02/11/19 12:14 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: ChiefDanG]
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Palm Smears? ...... How quaint. Use the entire forearm baby for doing smears! LOL.


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#2975115 - 02/11/19 12:25 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Outkaster]
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Real Men Smear, my smears on the tune 'Few and Far Between' by Shannon Curfman with my old project The Sunset Rebels...the smear at 2:49 was a smear ending with a small enveloped rumble tail at the end of it, I like doing that (tail end rumble) but it depends on the guitar player and the tune...Ron's (guitar) playing here was perfect for it ...tune was also. Wasn't a full foreman smear but I like those also at times...builds tension. I use then sparingly maybe 10-15 percent of any given gig night (smears in general)...If I'm not gigging good Hammond/Leslie clone...I tend not to smear...I get a bagel with a smear instead..

The palm smear occurs at 2:49 to 2:52 in below YT vid. The song itself starts at 1:30 .. another smear in the tune at 3:19 before the main guitar solo... there are a few other smaller smears in there 2 or so.. Using an original Hammond XK-3, Leslie 145/Speakeasy Pre, Hammond Vol. Pedal :






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#2975176 - 02/11/19 04:52 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Legatoboy]
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Anyone know who played organ on "Living in the U.S.A."?

Wikipedia shows Jim Peterman, but it's been wrong before.

No smears in that track, but there are some wonderful coughs and burps from the Hammond.
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#2975408 - 02/12/19 02:56 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Sundown]
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#2975442 - 02/12/19 08:07 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Sundown]
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Good view of Joseph Wooten's smeardywork here. Solo starts around 2:32
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#2975458 - 02/13/19 02:53 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Sundown]
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Great thread! My own personal favourite, the James Taylor Quartet

https://youtu.be/zFrzzEqKug4

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#2975539 - 02/13/19 12:11 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: JulianJ]
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Originally Posted By: JulianJ
Great thread! My own personal favourite, the James Taylor Quartet

https://youtu.be/zFrzzEqKug4



That's cool! By the way, there's three kinds of musicians in the world....those who can count, and those who can't laugh

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#2975541 - 02/13/19 12:33 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: area51recording]
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Brute force smears through stadium sound system courtesy Ricky Peterson, which visibly shakes the camera trying to record the event. evil Comment afterwards: "It's kinda fun to be able to blast that!" grin

Starts around 1:30 smile

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#2975654 - 02/14/19 01:51 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: area51recording]
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Originally Posted By: JulianJ
Great thread! My own personal favourite, the James Taylor Quartet

https://youtu.be/zFrzzEqKug4



That's cool! By the way, there's three kinds of musicians in the world....those who can count, and those who can't laugh


Brilliant! laugh

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#2976540 - 02/19/19 12:53 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: kanker.]
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Originally Posted By: kanker.
Rev. Charles Hodges is definitely one of the palm smear GOATs.


Wow, Respect. I didn't think anyone else knew who he was. I've been intrigued by him for a long time. I think everyone on those Al Green records could probably be replaced EXCEPT Al and the organ player; ALTHOUGH, the rest of the guys must have been pretty special as well since the 'groove' they created was straight from groove heaven.
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#2976542 - 02/19/19 01:08 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: ABECK]
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Boston's Smokin' has some smokin' glissandos. From a guitarist no less!


Actually Tom Scholz is originally a keyboard player. I have a 1987 guitar magazine where he admitted he played keyboards in many cover bands and only learned to play guitar because of too many frustrations clubbing with guitar players with crap tone. And if you knew anything about guitar amps in those days (I do, having grown up with a guitar playing brother), you would understand why most guitar players during that era sounded like crap.

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#2976557 - 02/19/19 01:48 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: The Real MC]
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I always liked the palm smears on this old Numa demo at 00:31 and 01:40

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzpoEGJdEvs

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#2976567 - 02/19/19 02:28 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Sundown]
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Originally Posted By: Sundown
Originally Posted By: Music Bird
Nice, did you all know the synth in Fly Like An Eagle was an SH-2000 on the clarinet setting?


Wikipedia says itís Steve Miller on an ARP Odyssey, but that could very well be wrong.

I recall a Roland ad in an early issue of Contemporary Keyboard around that time, with Steve Miller proclaiming the virtues of the Roland synth he used.

On the subject of Fly Like an Eagle - i think it should be the gold standard for what a clonewheel should be capable of. I've yet to encounter any that comes close.

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#2976572 - 02/19/19 03:09 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Outkaster]
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Originally Posted By: Outkaster
Sal had one of his white Leslie's in his collection. They were painted with Lead pain I remember him telling me so it was dangerous to have them around.

Only if you tried to eat one I would think.
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#2976592 - 02/19/19 06:25 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By: kanker.
Rev. Charles Hodges is definitely one of the palm smear GOATs.


Wow, Respect. I didn't think anyone else knew who he was. I've been intrigued by him for a long time. I think everyone on those Al Green records could probably be replaced EXCEPT Al and the organ player; ALTHOUGH, the rest of the guys must have been pretty special as well since the 'groove' they created was straight from groove heaven.
You're talking about Hi Rhythm, the Hi Records house band. The bass player and guitar player on all that stuff were Rev. Hodges brothers, Leroy and Teenie, which explains a lot of the tightness of the grooves, and Al Jackson or Howard Grimes on drums are also pretty hard to replace as well. I would argue that, in general, the Al Green records, as great as they were, intentionally weren't as greasy as some of the other Hi Records artists because Al was Hi's biggest artist.

I'm 46, but I was fortunate enough to get hip to Syl Johnson's Hi stuff back in the late 80's when I was in my mid-teens, and by my late teens I'd discovered Al, and then Ann Peebles, and Otis Clay, O.V. Wright, George Jackson and other Hi artists. Willie Mitchell's production and his taking the Hodges brothers under his wing when then were still in their teens was a huge part of the Hi sound.

Back in September I got to do a 3 day session, playing Wurly, with Rev. Hodges, his brother Leroy, Howard Grimes, and a really serious "younger" Memphis guitarist, Joe Restivo (Teenie passed a few years ago). Being in the room with that sound and playing with it live was a trip. Getting to watch and listen to how Rev. Hodges plays the organ in the same room was one of the most informative experiences I've had in a LONG time.
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#2976611 - 02/19/19 08:10 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: kanker.]
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Thanks for that. I love 'first person' stories, experiences, history, and perceptions about artists that I admire, especially those that made their mark but are not exactly household names.
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