Music Player Network Home Guitar Player Magazine Keyboard Magazine Bass Player Magazine EQ Magazine
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#2974367 - 02/07/19 05:16 PM Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle
Sundown Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 1131
Loc: UNITED STATES

Steve Miller's "Fly Like an Eagle" should get an award for best palm glissandos. Wikipedia credits the organ playing to Joachim Young, and while I'm not familiar with him, he clearly had chops. Not only are the glissandos great, but he really works the drawbars, Leslie, and swell pedal well to keep the organ timbre interesting and animated.

I don't know if there was an effect on the organ to give the opening gliss that whooshing sound (12 seconds in), but it just sounds fantastic...

_________________________
Sundown

Just Finished: Condensation; Two Button Press
Working on: The Jupiter Bluff; Fishing in Kingsbury
Main axes: Kawai MP11 and Kurz PC361
DAW Platform: Cubase

Top
KC Island
#2974373 - 02/07/19 05:35 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Sundown]
AnotherScott Offline
10k Club

Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 13322
Nah. Emerson's were better.
_________________________
Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our new video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out!

Top
#2974375 - 02/07/19 05:39 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: AnotherScott]
davedoerfler Offline
KCFF League Champion 2017
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 12/27/12
Posts: 8248
Loc: the swamp
Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
Nah. Emerson's were better.


so were Jon Lord's
_________________________
When you want authentic sounds, use orchestral samples.
When you want something moodier and more evocative, use mellotron samples.
Different colors in your crayon box.
Moe

Top
#2974376 - 02/07/19 05:39 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: AnotherScott]
drawback Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 05/11/04
Posts: 3772
Loc: Victoria BC, Canada
Hush, now. wink
_________________________
1977 Kawai KG-2C | SL88 Studio | Mojo61 A/B | Mackie | JBL | iOS | MacOS | Korg PlugKey |

Top
#2974394 - 02/07/19 06:13 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: drawback]
CEB Offline
10k Club

Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 13216
RIP. Memory Eternal. Great jazz pianist. Paid the bills playing with Boz and on Steve Miller records. He died way too young. A fantastically talented musician.


Edited by CEB (02/07/19 06:26 PM)
_________________________
"It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne

"A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!!
So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt

Top
#2974415 - 02/07/19 07:11 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: drawback]
EricBarker Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 07/25/18
Posts: 318
Originally Posted By: drawback
Hush, now. wink


shocked

ISWUDT!
_________________________
"All's fair in love, war, and the recording studio."

MacBook Pro running MainStage and various plugins (NI and other)
Arturia Keylab88, Crumar Mojo61, Seaboard Rise49, Vortex Keytar, Trumpet

Top
#2974418 - 02/07/19 07:38 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: EricBarker]
mate stubb Offline
Grand Poobah of the Trebuchet
10k Club

Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 16339
I'm sorry, but the King of Smears is Mark Stein.

(This song isn't the best example, but I just stumbled on it tonight and wanted to share it:)

_________________________
Moe
---
Kawai Novus: "Please feel surprised even more."

http://www.hotrodmotm.com

Top
#2974421 - 02/07/19 07:59 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: mate stubb]
drawback Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 05/11/04
Posts: 3772
Loc: Victoria BC, Canada
Originally Posted By: mate stubb
I'm sorry, but the King of Smears is Mark Stein.


+1!

Matthew Fisher had a pretty good one breaking into the final chorus of WSOP, too.
_________________________
1977 Kawai KG-2C | SL88 Studio | Mojo61 A/B | Mackie | JBL | iOS | MacOS | Korg PlugKey |

Top
#2974422 - 02/07/19 08:02 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: mate stubb]
waygetter Offline
Gold Member

Registered: 03/11/07
Posts: 848
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Originally Posted By: mate stubb
I'm sorry, but the King of Smears is Mark Stein.

(This song isn't the best example, but I just stumbled on it tonight and wanted to share it:)
that's some psychedelic shit right there, nice
_________________________
soundcloud.com/stream

Top
#2974425 - 02/07/19 08:08 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: waygetter]
burningbusch Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/22/00
Posts: 8138
Loc: Ghost Planet
Ethel did all that stuff decades before. Amazing technique.



Busch.

Top
#2974433 - 02/07/19 08:48 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: burningbusch]
WesG Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 02/16/13
Posts: 3523
Loc: Inverary, ON, Canada
I think his glissandi are great, but what really does it for me in that song is the times it makes it sound like there is a loose wire or something.
_________________________
Hammond: L111, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, B3
Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 31H
Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85
Roland: VR-09
Band Site: http://DrBombay.ca/

Top
#2974444 - 02/07/19 11:15 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: WesG]
zxcvbnm098 Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 12/02/05
Posts: 1386
Loc: Southern Calif.
There have been other threads in the past about his playing on this track. It's just flat out great Hammond playing, with glissandi, expression pedal work, drawbar manipulation and staccato playing that just drives the tune. Every time it comes on the radio I still crank it up just like the first time I heard it on vinyl.

Here's an extended version that seems to have the organ a bit louder in the mix. I wish I could find the stems somewhere where the organ is isolated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSjvMv2cK1k

Top
#2974445 - 02/07/19 11:23 PM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: zxcvbnm098]
zxcvbnm098 Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 12/02/05
Posts: 1386
Loc: Southern Calif.
Just found this version without vocals. You can hear his playing a little more clearly...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QSjuxXi-2o

Top
#2974455 - 02/08/19 04:58 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: zxcvbnm098]
BbAltered Offline
Gold Member

Registered: 03/18/12
Posts: 645
I have always thought Fly Like an Eagle is one of the best examples of rock Hammond playing. I too turn it up when it comes on my radio.

A lot of pop music buried the Hammond behind guitars and drums. This song is unusual because the Hammond is so prominent. So it seems to me some credit is due to the mix and production decisions.
_________________________
J.S. Bach Well Tempered Klavier
The collected works of Scott Joplin
Ray Charles Genius plus Soul
Charlie Parker Omnibook
Stevie Wonder Songs in the Key of Life
Weather Report Mr. Gone

Top
#2974457 - 02/08/19 05:19 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: BbAltered]
iluvchiclets Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 05/10/13
Posts: 336
Loc: Ontario, Canada
_________________________
Nord Stage, Roland System 1, NI Kontrol S49, Bass Station II, Komplete, Arturia V-Collection, Yamaha MX49, Kurz PC3, DSI Mopho Keys, drums, tons of guitars, amps, and pedals...

Top
#2974458 - 02/08/19 05:26 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: iluvchiclets]
ABECK Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 01/22/01
Posts: 2767
Loc: Framingham,MA,UNITED STATES
Boston's Smokin' has some smokin' glissandos. From a guitarist no less!

Top
#2974464 - 02/08/19 06:01 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: ABECK]
wineandkeyz Offline
Gold Member

Registered: 02/06/06
Posts: 606
Loc: North Carolina
In addition to some of the folks already mentioned, I've always dug Seth Justman's work with the J. Geils Band -- especially on their live stuff (which imho is where they were at their best). He does some wicked palm smears in "First I Look at the Purse" from the Full House album.
_________________________
LIVE: Yamaha S70XS; Roland Jupiter-80; Hammond XK3C & Vent; IEMs, SSV3 or Traynor K4
HOME: Yamaha S90ES; Roland Fantom X7; DSI Prophet Rev2-16; Arp Odyssey
QUIK-LOK X STANDS!

Top
#2974467 - 02/08/19 06:10 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: wineandkeyz]
ABECK Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 01/22/01
Posts: 2767
Loc: Framingham,MA,UNITED STATES
Yes, the live recordings really highlight what a badass on the B3 he is. AND - he used to have an absolute gaggle of leslies on stage.

Top
#2974469 - 02/08/19 06:13 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: ABECK]
Outkaster Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 02/25/06
Posts: 6422
Loc: Rochester, NY
Sal had one of his white Leslie's in his collection. They were painted with Lead pain I remember him telling me so it was dangerous to have them around.
_________________________
"Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello"


noblevibes.com


Top
#2974470 - 02/08/19 06:14 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: ABECK]
richforman Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 02/05/10
Posts: 1200
Loc: Long Island, NY
I saw the Steve Miller Band back in about the mid-90's and it stands out in my mind as a great set, I have no idea if the keyboard player was the same musician on the record but I remember he recreated Fly Like an Eagle live very accurately nuance for nuance, very impressive.
_________________________
Rich Forman
Yamaha MOXF8, Korg Kronos 2-61, Roland Fantom X7, Ferrofish B4000+ organ module, Roland VR-09, EV ZLX12P, K&M Spider Pro stand,
Yamaha S80, Korg Trinity Plus


Top
#2974475 - 02/08/19 06:28 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: BbAltered]
Synthoid Offline
10k Club

Registered: 12/04/03
Posts: 10734
Loc: Pennsylvania, USA
Originally Posted By: BbAltered
A lot of pop music buried the Hammond behind guitars and drums. This song is unusual because the Hammond is so prominent. So it seems to me some credit is due to the mix and production decisions.


+1
_________________________
When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray.

Top
#2974482 - 02/08/19 06:48 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: ABECK]
RedKey Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 05/20/09
Posts: 1339
Loc: Chicago
Originally Posted By: ABECK
he used to have an absolute gaggle of leslies on stage.

laugh


Edited by RedKey (02/08/19 08:17 AM)
Edit Reason: Keepin' the thread clean

Top
#2974485 - 02/08/19 06:56 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: Sundown]
Synthoid Offline
10k Club

Registered: 12/04/03
Posts: 10734
Loc: Pennsylvania, USA

_________________________
When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray.

Top
#2974487 - 02/08/19 07:00 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: RedKey]
pianoproducer Offline
Member

Registered: 01/17/19
Posts: 5
Originally Posted By: RedKey
Originally Posted By: ABECK
he used to have an absolute gaggle of leslies on stage.

A troop of baboons/monkeys/kangaroos


Nah mate - it's a Mob of Kangaroos ya Wally!

Top
#2974500 - 02/08/19 07:55 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: pianoproducer]
stillearning Offline
Gold Member

Registered: 06/27/13
Posts: 505
I think my favorite Hammond organ playing (which includes beautifully placed palm smears) is Neil Larsen playing on “Hallelujah”. Leonard Cohen, Live In London.
_________________________
I would like to apologize to anyone I have not yet offended. Please be patient and I will get to you shortly.

Top
#2974503 - 02/08/19 08:03 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: BbAltered]
The Real MC Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 05/17/05
Posts: 5432
Loc: Secluded Tranquil NY Wine Coun...
Originally Posted By: BbAltered
A lot of pop music buried the Hammond behind guitars and drums. This song is unusual because the Hammond is so prominent. So it seems to me some credit is due to the mix and production decisions.


So true. Pop music emphasizes the dance elements. Usually it is the guitar, bass, and drums. Playing static chords on the Hammond is not exactly a dance element. "Fly Like A Gaggle of Eagles" spotlighted the Hammond dancing along with the groove. I wish more players had learned that technique.

Top
#2974507 - 02/08/19 08:11 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: The Real MC]
samuelblupowitz Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 08/09/17
Posts: 185
Loc: Ithaca, NY
Fly Like an Eagle one of those songs I've heard so many times that my brain had sort of relegated it to background noise. It is an absolute joy to give it a fresh listen and really appreciate and enjoy it!
_________________________
Samuel B. Lupowitz
Composer. Arranger. Musician. Food Enthusiast. Bad Pun Aficionado.

Top
#2974527 - 02/08/19 08:55 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: samuelblupowitz]
kanker. Offline
KCFF League Champ '13
10k Club

Registered: 08/05/05
Posts: 12638
Loc: Indy
Rev. Charles Hodges is definitely one of the palm smear GOATs.
_________________________
A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable.

Top
#2974533 - 02/08/19 09:34 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: wineandkeyz]
El Lobo Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 12/23/14
Posts: 1105
Originally Posted By: wineandkeyz
In addition to some of the folks already mentioned, I've always dug Seth Justman's work with the J. Geils Band -- especially on their live stuff (which imho is where they were at their best). He does some wicked palm smears in "First I Look at the Purse" from the Full House album.
My main band does the J. Geils version of that tune, and a couple of other J. Geils tunes. Very underrated band, especially live.

Top
#2974544 - 02/08/19 10:52 AM Re: Best Hammond palm smear/glissando - Fly Like an Eagle [Re: El Lobo]
Dreamchilde Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 08/12/13
Posts: 1637
Loc: Los Angeles
Come on.

_________________________
Soul, R&B, Pop from Los Angeles
http://philipclark.com

King Super 20 Alto, Yamaha MX61, Roland VR-09, MicroKorg XL, Maschine Mikro, M-Audio ProKeys88sx, Roland MKS-50

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >


Moderator:  Dave Bryce, Stephen Fortner