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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
Ultimate Support have been true innovators for some time now. This product is a surprise, but it makes sense that Ultimate would be looking to fill a much-needed void.



I like the redesigned Apex with the ability to have angled tiers. AND....the new pedal board that fit over the redesigned legs.

The main thing I like is that the new super clamps and tri-bars are still compatible with all the iterations.

He mentioned showed the original at NAMM 1986. I bought and still have my original Apex in 1987. It just works.
I also have the AX-40 and have used the 30 year old clamps on it to add a third tier.




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Thanks for the info; I stopped the video right before the end so missed the clamp and tri-bar compatibility bit. I had been debating selling my Apex stand, but perhaps I could get it to work with the Moog Voyager using the newer attachments.


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How many posts over a word, Unlimited. If not go jump off a building or something.


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c'mon guys, stop this now.


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Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks
I like the redesigned Apex with the ability to have angled tiers. AND....the new pedal board that fit over the redesigned legs.

does look nice and the price is right. Was my favorite stand in the late 1980's, until I was smitten with Invisible.


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Thanks Geoff! This was the one I was most excited about, but have confirmed that locally we won't have access to it until April at earliest. And the pricing I was quoted was way out of the ballpark but hoping they got the currency conversion wrong wink

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I hope so too, David.

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The Radial rack should help out a lot of people, and is very different from any line mixers out there as that isn't quite what it is anyway.

Usually they post a user manual at their site fairly early, showing suggestions for routings and use cases. It wouldn't surprise me if this unit has some practical applications in the studio as well as live.


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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
Ultimate Support offers new modular desktop stands and a remodel of their Apex stand:

I hate the Apex stands like most of you hate X stands. Maybe more.


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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
The Radial rack should help out a lot of people, and is very different from any line mixers out there as that isn't quite what it is anyway.

Usually they post a user manual at their site fairly early, showing suggestions for routings and use cases. It wouldn't surprise me if this unit has some practical applications in the studio as well as live.


Indeed though I'm uneducated enough to wonder how it's a lot better than the PreSonus gear. With them announcing the USB-C option now I can't see where the extra cost is in the KL-8 although the components may be better?

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Originally Posted By: Bobby Simons
I hate the Apex stands like most of you hate X stands. Maybe more.
I soured on them some years back, after I lost the special inside-threaded bolt that held the Deltex together -- and U.S. told me that there were no spare parts, nor would they give me specs to try and get a new one machined.

That said, a 10 degree tilting shelf and a place for pedals is very attractive. I look forward to being a trailblazer follower, as soon as someone else tells me how the upper shelf can tilt down without the keyboard falling off.


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I liked the really big Apex stand that came in various eye catching colors. I thought about trying to find one for the Pop gig. But they had been recently discontinued and had risen quite a bit in price and were big and heavier than heck I guess. But I thought it would have had a nice stage presentation.

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Originally Posted By: CEB
I liked the really big Apex stand that came in various eye catching colors. I thought about trying to find one for the Pop gig. But they had been recently discontinued and had risen quite a bit in price and were big and heavier than heck I guess. But I thought it would have had a nice stage presentation.


That's the AX-90. I have one in the hard to find Red color. I bought it new for $599.00. What are these worth now? It's is a really cool stand and I get so many compliments on it. Only bring it on top gigs.

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I didn't look at every page here, but just found this. Hopefully not a repost. A synthesizer that uses motors as oscillators.

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Gibson is bringing back real Les Paul Juniors.


Or you can buy an original for $13,000.

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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
Thanks for the info; I stopped the video right before the end so missed the clamp and tri-bar compatibility bit. I had been debating selling my Apex stand, but perhaps I could get it to work with the Moog Voyager using the newer attachments.


I may be wrong but I thought he was saying the new Apex will accept old clamps/tribars. I didnít hear him say the new clamps will work on old Apex. If not itís perfectly understandable. People would just buy new clamps and save some money.


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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
Thanks for the info; I stopped the video right before the end so missed the clamp and tri-bar compatibility bit. I had been debating selling my Apex stand, but perhaps I could get it to work with the Moog Voyager using the newer attachments.


I may be wrong but I thought he was saying the new Apex will accept old clamps/tribars. I didnít hear him say the new clamps will work on old Apex. If not itís perfectly understandable. People would just buy new clamps and save some money.


I was basing it on he said you could use a clamp from your current Apex on the new one to add a third tier. That would indicate that the main part has the same groove for clamp attaching if the old can fit the new.


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Originally Posted By: Synthaholic
Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
Thanks for the info; I stopped the video right before the end so missed the clamp and tri-bar compatibility bit. I had been debating selling my Apex stand, but perhaps I could get it to work with the Moog Voyager using the newer attachments.


I may be wrong but I thought he was saying the new Apex will accept old clamps/tribars. I didnít hear him say the new clamps will work on old Apex. If not itís perfectly understandable. People would just buy new clamps and save some money.


I was basing it on he said you could use a clamp from your current Apex on the new one to add a third tier. That would indicate that the main part has the same groove for clamp attaching if the old can fit the new.


Am I missing something? What's to keep a keyboard from falling off when the arms are angled? There's nothing that see that would stop a keyboard from sliding off.

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I talked to one of the reps at the USS booth and he said the new clamps are not compatible with the old columns.

Price will remain the same, $199.

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Originally Posted By: delmar
I didn't look at every page here, but just found this. Hopefully not a repost. A synthesizer that uses motors as oscillators.

Here's another look:



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Originally Posted By: zephonic
I talked to one of the reps at the USS booth and he said the new clamps are not compatible with the old columns.

Price will remain the same, $199.

Thatís what I figured, and it just makes sense. Thanks.


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Originally Posted By: Synthaholic
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I talked to one of the reps at the USS booth and he said the new clamps are not compatible with the old columns.

Price will remain the same, $199.

Thatís what I figured, and it just makes sense. Thanks.


Yep, I watched the video wrong. The old clamps will work on the new one, not the other way around. (The original APEX and current AX-40 clamps are interchangeable)

Looking at this close up I can now see how they did this for the new style. The column now has new tracks where the brand new clamps attach, while retaining the previous column's mounting tracks for older clamps.

Still a great idea. I could take one of my AX-40 clamps, that he's showing here, and add it to the new stand in the middle. Giving me 3 tiers with the top one angled.



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Originally Posted By: nursers
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The Radial rack should help out a lot of people, and is very different from any line mixers out there as that isn't quite what it is anyway.


Indeed though I'm uneducated enough to wonder how it's a lot better than the PreSonus gear. With them announcing the USB-C option now I can't see where the extra cost is in the KL-8 although the components may be better?


The Radial is a rack mount line mixer and the PreSonus is a audio interface for a computer kind of an apples and oranges comparison. The Radial is basically a high end mixer and that's it. The PreSonus is a mainly an Analog to Digital convertor to send to your audio to your computer in digital format.

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The Radial rack should help out a lot of people, and is very different from any line mixers out there as that isn't quite what it is anyway.


Indeed though I'm uneducated enough to wonder how it's a lot better than the PreSonus gear. With them announcing the USB-C option now I can't see where the extra cost is in the KL-8 although the components may be better?


The Radial is a rack mount line mixer and the PreSonus is a audio interface for a computer kind of an apples and oranges comparison. The Radial is basically a high end mixer and that's it. The PreSonus is a mainly an Analog to Digital convertor to send to your audio to your computer in digital format.


The Radial KL-8 is also an Audio Interface which is great for people like me who use hardware and software on stage.


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Originally Posted By: Docbop
\The Radial is a rack mount line mixer and the PreSonus is a audio interface for a computer kind of an apples and oranges comparison. The Radial is basically a high end mixer and that's it. The PreSonus is a mainly an Analog to Digital convertor to send to your audio to your computer in digital format.


I haven't seen a statement as to whether the KL-8 does it's mixing analog or digital, but I'm going to guess it is an 8-channel 192kHz/24-bit audio interface with integrated digital mixer setup to be customized to this specific role. I believe the KL-8 can accept digital I/O on at least one channel and if it can send the full mix digitally to a computer, it can replace an audio interface in some applications.

Per pricepoint, it's actually a bit less than I'd have expected for a Radial product with this capability. Their deal is to sell quality and purpose built usefulness for gigging musicians, not to be the price leader. I'm personally not that into their designs, but I get why others are.

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