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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Fleer] #2971615 01/26/19 01:15 AM
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Too synthy feeling, not substantial enough. It's not my thing at all.

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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Dave Ferris] #2971616 01/26/19 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dave Ferris

I liked it better then the Nord Piano 4. But to be fair, between the over the top noise and the fact that the phones they provided were so bad, I actually thought the Royal Grand XL sample was a Rhodes. confused crazy


I actually did laugh out loud when I read this, and I don't laugh much. laugh


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Plus, old gear has a story. I like that.
Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Fleer] #2971617 01/26/19 01:17 AM
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Looks like both new offerings have the same "powerful stereo speaker system" installed. 16 watts isn't exactly ear shattering, lol.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: davedoerfler] #2971619 01/26/19 01:21 AM
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I mean everywhere I went the noise was so insane. I've never heard it so bad. Especially at the Marriott.

I've never been but to truly hear these keyboards, Sweetwater Gearfest is the place to go, not NAMM.

Heck even Guitar Center sounds like Studio A at Capitol compared to NAMM. rolleyes

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Dave Ferris] #2971621 01/26/19 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dave Ferris

I've never been but to truly hear these keyboards, Sweetwater Gearfest is the place to go, not NAMM.

maybe. I really enjoyed Gearfest in 2018 but it was loud for sure.


A reason why I collect old keyboards is that I feel partly responsible for doing it, responsible for preserving history and being a custodian for these things
Plus, old gear has a story. I like that.
Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: davedoerfler] #2971622 01/26/19 01:36 AM
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Well maybe it's Guitar Center at 10 AM or lunch time during the week bringing in your own phones.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin] #2971631 01/26/19 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mike Martin
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I asked Saul at YamahaMusicians.com about the CDP-S, and he asked Casio, and they said the new CDP-S models use AHL ii, not AiR or AiX.


Hes correct about the CDP-S100 only.
The CDP-S350 is a AiX variant.


That's good to know, since the CDP-S350 is the one that interests me. smile


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Fleer] #2971676 01/26/19 09:48 AM
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The PX-S3000 has USB-to-Device (audio) and USB-to-Host while the PX-S1000 only has the latter.

Apparently Casio have confirmed that USB Audio in the PX-S3000 is for recording audio to a USB stick only, so no USB Audio to a computer DAW.


Where did they confirm that?

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Radagast] #2971689 01/26/19 11:20 AM
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https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=187&t=12498&start=180

@ Dave Ferris:
Thanks, synthy action should be fine for e-pianos. Im thinking of getting a CP73 as well as the PX-S1000.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Dave Ferris] #2971715 01/26/19 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: Dave Ferris
Rich Formadoni said all the new models have the same piano and same action too.

All the new models, or just the two new Privias? Because Mike Martin said that the new CDPs use that same action, but have different piano sound engines, both from the Privia and from each other.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: AnotherScott] #2971727 01/26/19 02:17 PM
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I'm curious about things like what facilities it may have for quick patch recall of your favorites from among its 700 sounds, or from among any saved split/layer combinations you might assemble (registrations). Or are these still things you'd have to look at the older higher end models for?


The PX-S3000 has 96 registrations.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Dave Ferris] #2971733 01/26/19 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: Dave Ferris
What I could hear, and felt, immediately was an improvement over earlier models. I could get around on it pretty good and heard the tone and sustain was much improved.


Just to clarify: when you say "sustain," do you mean the rate at which the tone decays? One thing about the last generation of Privias that drew criticism from a lot of people (including me) was that the piano tones decayed in volume too quickly. Would you say that issue has been addressed?

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Josh Paxton] #2971736 01/26/19 03:25 PM
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Yes, they do. The timbre/tone is nice on the patches. But the decay is short. As we all know this is because of the length of sample, the storage for them on the instrument and the way the sustain and decay have been programmed - typically using looping to make up for shorter samples. Cost of storage is dropping - Kurzweil, Korg, and Yamaha are offering bigger piano libraries on their high end and mid level boards now. Im sure Casio will do the same. PX-5S successor. Cant wait to see what theyve improved.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: ElmerJFudd] #2971748 01/26/19 04:37 PM
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If its true that I cannot play my iPad and iPhone sound engines using USB into the sound system of the PX-S3000, then its a deal breaker. Too bad. It was so close.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Radagast] #2971755 01/26/19 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: Radagast
If its true that I cannot play my iPad and iPhone sound engines using USB into the sound system of the PX-S3000, then its a deal breaker.

Why not audio out of the i-device into audio-in of the PX? Yes, one more cable to run, but dealbreaker? (Yes, better if you have an earlier i-device with a headphone out, or an interface that has an audio out.)


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: AnotherScott] #2971777 01/26/19 06:38 PM
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Finally a video with a glimpse of single note blowing without pedal, for a brief moment at 1:05 (nice sounding) ... Still haven't heard a clean Fender Rhodes sound in any video...my guess is they don't have one.



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The Casio PX-S3000 won Best in Show, and our own Mike Martin got to play it for this largest audience ever this morning. Go Mike! Go Casio!


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+] #2971964 01/27/19 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
Finally a video with a glimpse of single note blowing without pedal, for a brief moment at 1:05 (nice sounding) ... Still haven't heard a clean Fender Rhodes sound in any video...my guess is they don't have one.



It didn't sound that good when I was playing it. Probably due to medium quality phones and background noise level. That sounds at least as good, if not better, then the new Yamaha to me. It has a less processed, digital sound. They're going to sell a ton of these !

Demo #2 from Max. Me likey. thu

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Yes, those Max Tampia demos sound great, and so much better than the earlier demos I'd seen of the CDP-S100, glad to hear the difference in the sound engines.


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Yeah don't they sound excellent ! Night and day improvement !

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Dave Ferris] #2971975 01/27/19 04:22 PM
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Is "note blowing" with regards to piano some new hipster language?

In my 46 years of playing I have never, ever heard that term as it relates to the piano.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: EscapeRocks] #2971977 01/27/19 04:31 PM
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laugh

It's Jazz-speak. When horn players improvise, it's known as "blowing" or "blowing over the (Chord) changes".

It also relates to any instrument improvising in the Jazz context - piano, organ, guitar, vibes, bass , drums playing 4s or 8s or an extended solo, heck even accordion. Even vocalists when they scat (please don't wink ) it's considered blowing.

I hear it now being used in funk and RnB circles as well.

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Cool. Yeah, I have always heard it with al the things you mentioned above, especially when I played trumpet. I just never heard it in the piano context.

Sounds odd to me...oh well I don't play jazz smile


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: EscapeRocks] #2971982 01/27/19 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks
I don't play jazz smile


I try but on some days I don't either. wink smile

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There is a Kraft Music Youtube offering with Rich Formidoni where he demonstrates a Rhodes Sound without phaser etc. that sounds relatively decent.

It seems that the PXS 1000 offers quite a lot. It's good to hear that there are some favorable reports.

Does this have ( at least ) USB midi out ?

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Does this have ( at least ) USB midi out ?


Yes!

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Man! This is such a great price . . . I'm really eager to give this a try (if only we had real retail keyboard shops in my area); I've been hoping to get out and try a P-515 and an ES8 (for home use only), but at ~1/2 the price of the Yamaha, and well under 1/2 the price of the Kawai, I feel like I should wait to try the PX-S3000.

I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts/experience with rear-mounted vs. top mounted speaker systems? I'm looking for something that's going to go up against a wall (practically, a few inches from the wall).

Do rear speakers like this turn "muddy" or just "warm" in that context?

Also, are the existing CS67 Stand and SP33 pedal compatible here (mostly, I'm interested in a stand-mounted pedal option)?

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So what is the extra USB port in the S3000 for?
Connect an external midi controller?


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