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#2988159 - 05/04/19 05:57 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Aidan]
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I have been using a km 188880, sometimes with a second tier, for about 3 years now and while I love the weight and the ability to have two keyboards close and nearly flat, I’d have to describe as very fragile for gigging even a few times a month. Down here in Mexico load ins are fast and often a little rough—cobblestone streets, double parking, etc. For some reason the screws come loose and disappear more than any stand I’ve ever had. It functions but there is a tad more side to side movement than I like.

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#2988160 - 05/04/19 06:18 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazzooo]
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That Jam Stand doesn't look like the materials would hold up very long. The legs seem like they’d bend easily and wouldn’t fold flat anyway. And it seems to me a lightweight keyboard would need more structure beneath it, which Gator appears to have.
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#2988164 - 05/04/19 07:01 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: drawback]
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Gator Frameworks table stand? I don't know... an 18 lb stand for a 25 lb board kinda seems like defeating part of the purpose. I'd look for something aluminum. If not that K&M, then maybe the Strukture Aluminum KeyStand. It's an X-stand, but a good one.
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#2988167 - 05/04/19 08:16 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
I don't know... an 18 lb stand for a 25 lb board kinda seems like defeating part of the purpose.

Casio has an opportunity to design a well-engineered light folding stand to match the light and slim form factor of these new keyboards. They've already designed the 3-pedal unit to be independent of the matching home furniture stand, and they've designed a nice gig bag to fit. How about a light but stable folding stand? My experience has been that X-stands are not so good for seated piano players...knees constantly bumping the stand.

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#2988187 - 05/04/19 03:51 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: tnelson]
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I have 2 of these and the shorter version for my Mojo 61. I remove the extension legs to make them lighter:

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#2988188 - 05/04/19 04:00 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+]
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Z stands, Omega Stand, Standtastik stand will also give your knees and pedal room.
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#2988190 - 05/04/19 04:14 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Overview video of differences between PX-S1000 vs PX-S3000:

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#2988194 - 05/04/19 04:31 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Z stands, Omega Stand, Standtastik stand will also give your knees and pedal room.


I have both an Omega stand and a folding platform stand that have plenty of room for knees, but neither are light nor proportioned for the S3000. I was imagining that the clever Casio engineers that created the S1000 and S3000 could create a light and compact stand, designed for stability and proportioned for these keyboards.

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#2988200 - 05/04/19 05:16 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: tnelson]
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Ah I see. These are slim digitals. Saw the FP-30 recently. Not much to that one either foot print wise. But I’m not sure what they’d come up with. If the stand is as slim as these models - how sturdy could it be?
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#2988216 - 05/04/19 09:26 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+]
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+

I have 2 of these


Hey Jazz+, that's the Quick Lok WS 550, correct? I also have 2 with second tier option, looking at picking up a third. They seem to be creeping up in price, but my first one is 25 years old. You get what you pay for, hopefully.
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#2988228 - 05/05/19 06:04 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: davedoerfler]
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The PX-S3000 uses twice as much battery power as the PX-S1000, the former giving you two hours, the latter four.

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#2988251 - 05/05/19 09:45 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Fleer]
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Dbl post

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#2988252 - 05/05/19 09:46 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Fleer]
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2 hours vs 4? Must be the processor and display. Batteries for special occasions only.

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#2988275 - 05/05/19 02:57 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+]
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I played a Casio PX-S1000 at GC. For Long Islanders who might be interested it was at the Commack store.

I thought the action and sound were very good. I only played the acoustic piano sound that it was set on. I liked the feel of the keys and was very comfortable expressing myself. At 25 pounds it's a dream come true!

My only struggle was when I moved my hands close to the fulcrum. The first two thirds of the keys were fine -- meaning key resistance was what I expected -- but key resistance was too hard for the last third. For a lot of the music I play this isn't an issue. I'd really only struggle with this if I were playing solo jazz piano or classical. Kudos to Casio on a wonderful technical achievement!

I'm going to buy a PX-S3000 as it provides a lot more functionality for a very reasonable additional cost. I plan on sometimes using the internal sounds and sometimes using it as a midi controller for my laptop rig. I'm expecting it will replace the CP4 for rock and blues gigs (because of the lighter weight) while also replacing the Yamaha NP11 for most portable / battery operated situations (because of the additional keys, and better action and sound). I'll keep the CP4 for jazz gigs as I'm not convinced I'll be able to comfortably express the same amount of nuance with the PX-S3000. But, we'll see -- the jury's still out on this.

P.S. GC also had a Yamaha P125. I found that I could express myself more easily on the PX-S3000 then the P125. Unfortunately, I can't put into words why that is. For me it's just a feeling and also the most important criteria.
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#2988279 - 05/05/19 03:48 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Al Quinn]
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Thanks Al for the report. When you have both the CP4 and Casio next to each other in the confines of your home, I'd be curious to hear if you still feel the same about the Casio for a Jazz context. And also how it sounds through the TT08As compared to the CP4. Thanks.

Of course playing at home isn't always conclusive. Being out in the real world with a rhythm section and at the mercy of varying room acoustics is the real acid test.

I also have a hard time getting around on the entry level Yamahas I've played.


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#2988285 - 05/05/19 04:52 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Dave Ferris]
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I did a comparison today with the casio s3000 and the dexibell platinum Japanese grand , I just turned them both on and played them , I need to figure out how to tweak the casio , but it sounds decent coming through the zxa1 ev speakers , I need to figure out how to turn off the on board speakers to make it a little cleaner for recording . Go to mike lupinetti on you tube if interested .

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#2988300 - 05/05/19 07:31 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: pianomike]
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Mike, plug a cable into the headphone jack and the internal speakers will be cut off.
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#2988301 - 05/05/19 07:53 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: davedoerfler]
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Does anyone know how the casio px-s1000 compares overall to the kawai es 110?

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#2988306 - 05/06/19 01:35 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: agitato]
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You don't need to plug a cable into the headphone jack. Function + F7 will turn the internal speakers on and off, at least on the 1000.

As for the Kawai ES110, I really like Kawai's piano samples (I'm actively considering an MP11SE) but that one is an absolute miss for me, it's far too bright and thin on every YouTube video I can find of it.
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#2988307 - 05/06/19 01:35 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: agitato]
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Thanks davedoerfler , I did not even think about that .

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#2988440 - 05/07/19 04:20 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Dave Ferris]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Ferris
When you have both the CP4 and Casio next to each other in the confines of your home, I'd be curious to hear if you still feel the same about the Casio for a Jazz context. And also how it sounds through the TT08As compared to the CP4. Thanks.

Sure Dave, will do. I ordered a PX-S3000 yesterday and should have it in a few days.
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#2988617 - 05/07/19 06:30 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+]
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My 3000 was delivered today and I'm just coming up for air. It's fun to play. I like the feel and touch of the keyboard. The piano sounds are pretty wonderful for what looks like just the keybed of a real piano. I'm hoping the internal speakers will be loud enough for rehearsal but I'm not sure about that. I'll find out soon enough. I won't be gigging with this right away, at least until I get better oriented. When I do gig, I'll put it though my 2 K8 speakers. I'm doing a fair amount of menu diving but I won't use the majority of the features and parameters that I can adjust. One thing I'm somewhat disappointed in is the organ sounds, but that's not why I got this board and that's why I have the Nord 5D. But I do NOT want to be gigging 2 boards in addition to my sax. Too much gear is too much to load in, set up, take down, and load out. I'm also a little disappointed in the electric piano sounds. I like the Wurly on my Nord. But I can get into the variety of other e. piano sounds on the 3000. More time is needed on the board. Also, the vast majority of the 700 sounds sound to me like sounds that have been around for years. I'm not sure how many are actually new to Casio and engineered for this board. But I like the pianos and how they sound with the internal speakers. Also I hooked up my expression pedal and that also makes it mo' bettah. New toys are always lots of fun. I'm a happy camper today. Tomorrow never knows ...

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#2988716 - 05/08/19 09:51 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Aidan]
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Originally Posted By: Aidan
You don't need to plug a cable into the headphone jack. Function + F7 will turn the internal speakers on and off, at least on the 1000.
On the 3000 it's function 104.

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#2988724 - 05/08/19 10:32 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: El Lobo]
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A single little amp on the floor should be loud enough for many situations , not for a full band though. I do solo piano and duo/trio gigs with a single little 10" Fender bass amp ($179, 17 lbs) on the floor. Sounds huge, like a grand piano.

Note: To get a clean tone Rhodes go to EP1 and change the DSP to Stereo 3 Band EQ and save as a Registration on the S3000 only.
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#2988733 - 05/08/19 11:39 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+]
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
Note: To get a clean tone Rhodes go to EP1 and change the DSP to Stereo 3 Band EQ and save as a Registration on the S3000 only.
Thanks for that tip.

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#2988746 - 05/08/19 12:57 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: El Lobo]
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EP1 is the best, but Casio preset it with heavy phase shifter and tremolo effects. When all that is taken off it's the best clean tone Rhodes in the EP Tone bank. (to do so, simply change the DSP to Stereo 3 Band EQ and save as a Registration. I also recommend setting Knobs 1 and 2 to Chorus and Reverb control. Also, you can boost High Gain for more tine sound.) I'm very pleased with the result. You can only do this with the S3000.

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#2988748 - 05/08/19 01:25 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: El Lobo]
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Originally Posted By: El Lobo
Gawd, I love this forum. I have the Gator Frameworks stand for my Nord 5D. It's very heavy but I like it, for the most part. I was looking for a stand that was not quite so deep. The 3000 is 9" deep according to published specs. I looked at the Ultimate Support jam stand and others like it (e.g., Neewer) which say they are 10" deep, so maybe that's the best bet. I'm always trying for the smallest possible stage real estate with the greatest stability. 88 keys is max width and can make life difficult on narrow stages, but if I can shave a few inches off the depth, it makes for better relations with the harp player on stages that aren't very deep to begin with.


I picked up this Gator stand and it's a good size for my Nord Stage 3 Compact or my Casio PX S3000. I can handle the 18 lbs because it sets up in 10 seconds and it folds completely flat and is easy to carry or fit on my cart. Thanks guys!

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#2988752 - 05/08/19 01:47 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: ewall08530]
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More good stuff. Thank you Jazz+

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#2988776 - 05/08/19 07:14 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+]
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Jazz+ - are you a paid endorser?

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#2988791 - 05/08/19 10:39 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: wd8dky]
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I wish I was but I am not.
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