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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+] #2982499
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The surround sound effect is pretty cool...however be aware it only works with the onboard speakers it is not applied to any output.

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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Needskeys] #2982505
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So far I canít find a way to disable the internal speakers. Hopefully I am just missing something. Function F7 says Speaker Out enable/disable but it doesnít seem to affect the internal or external speakers. If anyone knows anything about this please let me know.

Edit: Ok I figured out function F7 will disable the internal speakers -if- you have something plugged in to one of the headphone jacks. External speakers still work with either setting.

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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Needskeys] #2982516
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Originally Posted By: Needskeys
The EPs need to match the quality of the piano though.

The EPs in the PX5S and PX560 are already quite good, there's a nice selection between the stock EPs and the free downloadable ones programmed by Dave Weiser available at the Casio forum. So I expect that future replacements will have at least comparably good EPs, even though they are not in the newer but lower end CT-X and PX-S models.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: AnotherScott] #2982523
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I agree on this. Casio is great value for the $. But even they reserve their best stuff for flagships like 5S/560. It would be amazing if the S-1/3000 had everything from the $1k+ models. For me an S3000 would be a slim and light cheap controller with decent piano like-action for a laptop or lower tier for a Kronos 61 or something like that. The onboard sounds are decent enough for around the house and even the casual gig but what weíre hearing is not necessary thrilling to play beyond the central concept AP patches. Iíd say the same about Yamaha P125 and the others in its price range.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: AnotherScott] #2982526
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General thoughts after a day with the s1000...

As far as the look, feel, and piano sound everything has met and even exceeded expectations. I was happy to see the music stand is included and is sturdy and easy to attach/unattach. Bluetooth audio works great and the 2 headphones jacks are a nice touch (even though I would have preferred at least one be quarter inch). Also the organs overall are a little better than expected.

Acoustic bass, vibes, and strings are good but nothing amazing. Navigation is as expected...have to remember quite a few button/key combinations. Thankfully you can turn off the noises associated with choosing these functions. Alternatively, you can use the chordana play for piano app. It works fine but that uses up the usb connection.

Ep 006 is the Rhodes sound..I suppose itís usable but itís just ok. Hopefully the s3000 has a better one for those who are waiting on that.

Weird stuff...not a huge deal but it doesnít come with the full manual, just the basics one. Also you have to plug something into one of the headphone jacks to disable the internal speakers. The reverbs are all hall effects... there are no room or stage reverbs. Luckily the default hall reverb sounds really nice. Other than duet mode (piano on each side), you can only split bass to the left hand. Thatís strange!

All in all Iím still amazed to get so much keyboard in this small package. Hopefully the s3000 will be worth the extra $$$.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Needskeys] #2982563
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Speakers can be disabled on the PX-S1000 by pressing Function and F7


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin] #2982572
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Mike, I tried Function and F7. On my board this has no effect unless you also plug in to one of the headphone jacks. I just tried it again after waiting for the power up sequence to finish. I am pressing function and the highest F (F7) on the keyboard.

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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Randelph] #2982602
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Originally Posted By: Randelph
I doubt that they'll go further into the arranger line with a MZ-X600, it'd take years and years to gain traction, and the Korg PA 700 has them beat in many respects (only $200 more in the states, 7" display, video out, song book features, more powerful speakers, knob for accompaniment volume, etc.), obviously not in all respects, but still, it'd be a hell of an uphill battle for them in that mid-range arranger market.

Somehow I always forget about the Korg arrangers. I haven't played a PA700, but from what can tell, you're right, it does seem to be a lot more board than the MZ-X500 overall, even though the MZ-X does have a few things it doesn't. What brought me to the MZ-X was the desire for a versatile, lightweight board with decent built-in speakers for unplugged rehearsals and maybe small solo stuff... I've also had it do double duty as an "upper tier" board and as a "take it on vacation" board. The PA700 does look like a stronger choice, but 21.8 lbs vs. 16.8... and the 16.8 was already heavier than I'd hoped I'd have to go for this particular use. People probably have different weight thresholds for what qualifies as a good casual grab-it-and-go board. But I have to say, now that you've brought it to my attention, I'm really tempted to take a closer look at the PA700 and PA1000.


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Can someone here with an s1000 confirm whether the disable speaker (function F7) works on their board? Iím trying to determine if I have a faulty unit.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Needskeys] #2982608
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Originally Posted By: Needskeys
Can someone here with an s1000 confirm whether the disable speaker (function F7) works on their board? Iím trying to determine if I have a faulty unit.

It doesn't work on mine either frown


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: PianoManChuck] #2982610
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Ok thanks at least Iím not crazy...I guess we have a case of the first batch blues.

It does work (disables internal speakers) if you plug something in to one of the headphone jacks.

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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin] #2982611
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Originally Posted By: Mike Martin
Speakers can be disabled on the PX-S1000 by pressing Function and F7


Hey Mike, it appears that just as with my older PX-350, you need to plug something into the headphone jack to disable the on-board speakers.

I just tried one at Guitar Center here, and sure enough, just pressing Function-F7 did nothing unless the headphone jack was in use.

FYI, the S1000 plays wonderfully. Can't wait to try the S3000


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Needskeys] #2982612
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Originally Posted By: Needskeys
Ok thanks at least Iím not crazy...I guess we have a case of the first batch blues.

It does work (disable internal speakers) if you plug something in to one of the headphone jacks.


That's been a standard of the Casio boards for awhile. As i mention in my post above to Mike, you had to plug something into the PX350 headphone jack to disable the speakers.


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Thatís fine if thatís the case. Mike did not seem to be aware of it yesterday and itís not mentioned in the manual.

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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Needskeys] #2982615
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Originally Posted By: Needskeys
Thatís fine if thatís the case. Mike did not seem to be aware of it yesterday and itís not mentioned in the manual.


Sometimes the pre-release features don't always translate to production.

Same with the manuals.
i.e. Function F7 could have worked on Mike's board at NAMM, etc..

When I used to use my PX350 to gig, I carried a 1/4" headphone adapter with me to "turn off" the speakers on stage.

You could get a simple 3.5mm or 1/8" plug for the S1000


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+] #2982616
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
I recommend you try the S1000 and S3000 next to a Yamaha P-515 , at Guitar Center, before you jump in. . .


Yes, wouldnít that be illuminating? If only...
I hit both Guitar Center and Sam Ash today. Neither place had either the P-515 or the S1000. Plenty of other, cheaper, Yamahas and Casios, but nothing Iím interested in. Maddening.


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It took my Guitar Center guys about 10 minutes over the phone to realize they had it in stock. They were confusing it with an older Casio. They finally figured out that they had 1 white s1000 and 1 black s1000. The white one was not yet for sale. They opened up the black one for me to try and buy.


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Yes, I considered the possibility that they actually had one but werenít aware that it was something NEW and DIFFERENT from the others! I was too annoyed to find out at that point.


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you know if you go to guitar center website and look up an instrument, it will tell you what locations have thee in stock


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I have checked online inventories and driven across town only to find they were not correct. Itís always better to call and verify.

One salesperson even told me itís done intentionally to get people into the store in order to sell similar items.

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Interesting. The site says the S1000 is in stock at every GC in the greater NY area. T/F


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For instance the GC where I bought mine now says limited stock. They only had 2 (one black and one white) when I got mine on Friday. The white one is not for sale yet so they really donít have any.

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Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks

When I used to use my PX350 to gig, I carried a 1/4" headphone adapter with me to "turn off" the speakers on stage.

was the same for me when I gigged with a Wurlitzer 200. cool

can't wait to try out the S3000. thu


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Originally Posted By: Bobby Simons
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I recommend you try the S1000 and S3000 next to a Yamaha P-515 , at Guitar Center, before you jump in. . .


Yes, wouldnít that be illuminating? If only...
I hit both Guitar Center and Sam Ash today. Neither place had either the P-515 or the S1000. Plenty of other, cheaper, Yamahas and Casios, but nothing Iím interested in. Maddening.


Just played the Casio CDP-S100, PX-S1000 and Yamaha P-515 next to each other. Yamaha P-515 is in another league, consistent and smooth as butter (but twice the price, understandably).

As for the two Casios - I was going back and forth between the CDP and PX for half an hour, and couldn't tell if they have the same or different action. They feel close, black keys have equally short key pivot, but PX-S1000 was much quieter, and may be a bit more heavy/substantial.
Definitely not a bad action, better than low end Rolands or Yamahas, and if you were happy with the previous Privias (no pun intended), you'll be much happier with the new one. But if you have extra money - try the Yamaha P-515 first.


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Iím wondering how similar the 515 action might be to the Montage - which I absolutely love.


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Originally Posted By: Bobby Simons
Iím wondering how similar the 515 action might be to the Montage - which I absolutely love.


It's heavier and graded. Very different from the Montage.


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Well, thatís different in the right direction, at least.


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Originally Posted By: PianoManChuck
Originally Posted By: Needskeys
Can someone here with an s1000 confirm whether the disable speaker (function F7) works on their board? Iím trying to determine if I have a faulty unit.

It doesn't work on mine either frown

Ok... just looked at the manual and it appears how your board (and mine) is operating is in fact correct! This basically toggles the speakers on/off when headphones are connected! So basically, you'll either have to plug in a set of headphones (or just get a male headphone plug without any wires connected to it) in order to shut it off.

Here's the exact wording from the manual:

SPEAKER OUT:

Controls whether or not sound is output from the speakers when something is plugged into either of the PHONES jacks. Sound is not output when this setting is disabled (default), and output when it is enabled.


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Thanks for the clarification.

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Originally Posted By: gg22
Originally Posted By: Bobby Simons
Iím wondering how similar the 515 action might be to the Montage - which I absolutely love.


It's heavier and graded. Very different from the Montage.


Sorry, incorrect...the graded action (or GHS) is the cheaper Yamaha weighted keybed and it is on the MODX.
The Balanced keybed (the better one) is on the Montage, and I daresay the 515 as well as, afaik, Yamaha only make the two weighted keybeds....any other differences you may read about are perceptions, imo!


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