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#2971017 - 01/23/19 01:03 PM Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze
KeyboardEric Offline
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If anyone has tried replicating it or feels like shedding a bit of light on some of the strange but beautiful sounds featured on this recording, I'm all ears.

In the choruses. It sounds kind of like a wood wind or air organ, but I've read that it's a synth sound?

The sound that goes along with the toy piano riffs could be the same type of thing, but also sounds kind of like a saxophone to me.

idk

I'm working on my own cover of it at the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsHuV3Aj1os&list=PLmZ8iBcr12pVTziLancumxmqa4cAKhWlm&index=33

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#2971047 - 01/23/19 02:23 PM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: KeyboardEric]
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Wrecking Crew session player Jim Horn is credited with playing Flute on the recording. A trademark sound of Seals and Crofts was blending Flute and Soprano Sax. I think that is the airy background sound here. Seals was the Sax player in The Champs and teamed up with Champs drummer Dash Crofts. Jimmy is the only person credited with playing Sax on the album and Robert Lichtig also plays Flute as well as Clarinet on some songs. I don't think there are any Synths on this record.

BTW, among his countless recording credits Jim Horn played Flute on Canned Heat's "Goin' Up the Country" overdubbed three times as well as "Good Vibrations" and "God Only Knows" by The Beach Boys.
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#2971049 - 01/23/19 02:34 PM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: Shamanczarek]
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That's very interesting and helpful info. you are a wealth of knowledge sir. Thanks for sharing!

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#2971128 - 01/23/19 08:41 PM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: KeyboardEric]
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Great song, great production, great vocals, cool amalgamation of interesting instruments, and definitely a reflection of those days back in the early 70s
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#2971149 - 01/24/19 12:21 AM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: waygetter]
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Agreed!

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#2971200 - 01/24/19 07:13 AM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: KeyboardEric]
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The Isley Brothers version is awesome.
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#2971212 - 01/24/19 07:41 AM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: KeyboardEric]
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Always liked that song. Makes me smile when I hear it come on the radio... after all these years.
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#2971313 - 01/24/19 11:56 AM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: Synthoid]
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If anybody is interested I got the intro sound by layering a toy piano with a sax and clarinet patch.

Then I got the chorus sound by layering a sax and farfisa organ patch together and de-tuning slightly. Everything sounds pretty close. Fun times!


Edited by KeyboardEric (01/24/19 12:01 PM)

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#2971333 - 01/24/19 01:26 PM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: KeyboardEric]
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#2971339 - 01/24/19 01:43 PM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: Synthoid]
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I hear the toy piano doubling the instrumental hook.
Second time it plays, a two-note percussive line is added... sounds like Rhodes or synth?
Little piano flourishes here and there throughout.
Cool tune for sure.

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#2971345 - 01/24/19 02:08 PM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: keyman27]
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I play this song in one of my bands. The Sax player doubles the other keyboardist on a toy-piano. I use a "bandoneon" sample for the choruses, the riff, and the bridge.

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#2971412 - 01/24/19 11:53 PM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: vortmaxx]
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Originally Posted By: vortmaxx
I use a "bandoneon" sample for the choruses, the riff, and the bridge.


Yes! Almost went with that too and I might still. I wonder if there was some type of accordion instrument in the mix.

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#2971445 - 01/25/19 05:45 AM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: KeyboardEric]
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Since this thread began, Iíve had a Summer Breeze earworm - in this case a pretty good one to have. Iíve always been an admirer of Seals & Crofts and was lucky enough to meet and chat with them when they were having their hit records. They left town having just hired a local keyboard player who was kind of a mentor of mine.

The band I was in back then did We Will Never Pass This Way Again, and Diamond Girl. We never considered doing Summer Breeze though, all things taken into account. That one is a production masterpiece, wrapped around an ambitious, complex arrangement and a 110% committed, giveíer performance. If youíve ever tried to pull this kind of thing off in the studio from scratch, what to leave in, what to leave out, the mix.... Iíve been in the midst of this kind of thing and the mind reels considering how it could have turned out.

I think itís awesome youíre going to replicate it and I wish you success! cool
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#2971450 - 01/25/19 06:21 AM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: drawback]
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#2971456 - 01/25/19 06:40 AM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: Outkaster]
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The Isley is killer.
Type O Negative does a great goth sludge doom style cover of it as well!
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#2971493 - 01/25/19 09:31 AM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: jimkost2002]
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The manager of one of my first bands was the drummer in The Champs just before Dash Crofts took over. He and Jimmy Seals were good friends and wrote several songs together which AFAIK never got recorded. He would tell us stories about the crazy things he and Jimmy did while on the road.
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#2971498 - 01/25/19 09:44 AM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: Shamanczarek]
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Originally Posted By: Shamanczarek
Jim Horn played Flute on Canned Heat's "Goin' Up the Country" overdubbed three times as well as "Good Vibrations" and "God Only Knows" by The Beach Boys.
He also played often with Leon Russell, including on Joe Cocker's Mad Dogs and Englishmen.
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#2971600 - 01/25/19 06:34 PM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: KeyboardEric]
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I love this tune since I was a child hearing it on AM radio. Although the Isley Brothers cover may be even better!

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#2971637 - 01/25/19 09:56 PM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: drawback]
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Originally Posted By: drawback
I think itís awesome youíre going to replicate it and I wish you success! cool


Thanks for the encouraging words! It's not a studio cover I'm doing but for a live cover gig so I don't really need to replicate every sound in the tune. I'm aiming for the gist of it smile

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#2971638 - 01/25/19 10:22 PM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: KeyboardEric]
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Unless you want to be in some ďlook at me, I can copy someone elseís creativity exactlyĒ kind of a band, itís your job as a musician to aim for the gist of it.

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#2971671 - 01/26/19 04:23 AM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: drawback]
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If I were to do a cover
Layer: toy piano on one side/Bandoneon on other side for intro
The toy piano sound is not often found on keyboards Iíve seen enough.
So, if you donít have a toy piano patch, you could use a celesta with chorus or a synth bell patch.
For the winds, Iíd use clarinet or a woodwind section patch layered with a reed organ sound (something like a Bontempi couldíve been used on the original to mix in with the clarinet and sax) or an accordion/tango accordion. On my Yamaha MX49 thereís a good patch that sounds similar to a Bandoneon.
The chorus sound sounds like 3 things.
Clarinets, sax, and some kind of melodica or Bontempi chord organ.


Edited by Music Bird (01/26/19 04:25 AM)
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#2971728 - 01/26/19 09:17 AM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: Music Bird]
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Originally Posted By: Music Bird
If I were to do a cover
Layer: toy piano on one side/Bandoneon on other side for intro
The toy piano sound is not often found on keyboards Iíve seen enough.
So, if you donít have a toy piano patch, you could use a celesta with chorus or a synth bell patch.
For the winds, Iíd use clarinet or a woodwind section patch layered with a reed organ sound (something like a Bontempi couldíve been used on the original to mix in with the clarinet and sax) or an accordion/tango accordion. On my Yamaha MX49 thereís a good patch that sounds similar to a Bandoneon.
The chorus sound sounds like 3 things.
Clarinets, sax, and some kind of melodica or Bontempi chord organ.


This is excellent! Thank you. Luckily I have a few toy piano sounds to choose from as well as celesta on my Korg.

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#2971877 - 01/27/19 12:22 AM Re: Epic Cover Quest - Summer Breeze [Re: KeyboardEric]
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I just remembered that in 1975 there was a Chamberlin Keyboard advertised for sale in the local paper where I lived in Southern California. I called about it and the guy handling the sale was an employee of Seals and Crofts who were selling off various pieces of gear they had in storage. I called the guy a few more times but was never able to arrange a time when he could show it so I never made the purchase. I've checked album credits and live videos but can find no evidence that Seals and Crofts used the Chamberlin. I wish I would have thought to ask more questions about why they had a Chamberlin when they were known for playing acoustic instruments.
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