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Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports
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Stylophone Gen R-8


sounds great. Always wanted a Stylophone but never needed one. Would be cool to have but at $350.00 US dollars I have to pass for now. Bet it will do well.


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Stylophohe Gen-R8



This video gave me headache, I wish I didn't see it.

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Stylophohe Gen-R8



This video gave me headache, I wish I didn't see it.


try taking a nap, maybe that will help. wink


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At this year's NAMM show, Deskew Technologies will be debuting Version 3 of Gig Performer, their VST/VST3/AU live performance plug-in host for Mac and Windows systems.

At the Anaheim Convention Center, January 24-27, live demonstrations of Gig Performer 3.0 will be presented at Ilio (ACC Hall A, booth #11910) and TASCAM (ACC North Hall #18910). Gig Performer 3 adds a bevy of powerful new capabilities, especially to the program's control features.

Gig Performer 3 supports set lists consisting of songs along with song parts that can be accessed directly from controllers or MIDI pedalboards. Song parts allow rackspaces to be reused. For example, a single rackspace containing an acoustic piano sound can be reused to cover 10 songs needing piano.

Gig Performer 3 adds support for the Chord Pro lead sheet format. This allows Chord Pro documents to be created, edited, and linked to songs in a setlist so a chords-and-lyrics chart can be opened when a song is selected.

Remote access has been enhanced significantly to support songs and parts from your iPad or Android device running Lemur. Bidirectional MIDI support for widgets facilitates the use of MIDI control surfaces.

Version 3 also introduces the ability to synchronize Gig Performer with other applications on a wireless network, using Ableton Link.

Numerous other functions and workflow enhancements are included in Gig Performer 3. Gig Performer 3 will be available on January 24th, 2019 and upgrade pricing will be provided shortly.

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Originally Posted By: N4dr0j
How much do MIDI DIN ports cost to add in? There have been a few budget, light weight, 73 key'd pianos released recently that would have been perfect for a bottom slave board, but alas, no MIDI ports. Surely companies realise the market they miss out on by not including them?


I don't know about cost, but it seems like keyboards which are aimed at home users rather than gigging performers tend to have USB-MIDI only, so I guess Casio isn't targeting these new CDP models at gigging performers.

It's no big deal to me, because I'm strictly a home user and I usually keep my keyboards connected to my desktop computer via USB anyway, so my computer does all of the MIDI routing and processing that I need.

But I know that some home users won't seriously consider adding a 'board to their setup unless it has MIDI DIN ports so they can directly connect it to other equipment.


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At this year's NAMM show, Deskew Technologies will be debuting Version 3 of Gig Performer, their VST/VST3/AU live performance plug-in host for Mac and Windows systems.

At the Anaheim Convention Center, January 24-27, live demonstrations of Gig Performer 3.0 will be presented at Ilio (ACC Hall A, booth #11910) and TASCAM (ACC North Hall #18910). Gig Performer 3 adds a bevy of powerful new capabilities, especially to the program's control features.

Gig Performer 3 supports set lists consisting of songs along with song parts that can be accessed directly from controllers or MIDI pedalboards. Song parts allow rackspaces to be reused. For example, a single rackspace containing an acoustic piano sound can be reused to cover 10 songs needing piano.

Gig Performer 3 adds support for the Chord Pro lead sheet format. This allows Chord Pro documents to be created, edited, and linked to songs in a setlist so a chords-and-lyrics chart can be opened when a song is selected.

Remote access has been enhanced significantly to support songs and parts from your iPad or Android device running Lemur. Bidirectional MIDI support for widgets facilitates the use of MIDI control surfaces.

Version 3 also introduces the ability to synchronize Gig Performer with other applications on a wireless network, using Ableton Link.

Numerous other functions and workflow enhancements are included in Gig Performer 3. Gig Performer 3 will be available on January 24th, 2019 and upgrade pricing will be provided shortly.


Be interested to see more on this. I like MainStage but have always been tempted by Gig Performer...

Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports
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At this stage so close to NAMM, is it unlikely that we'll now hear any new announcements from the "big guys"?


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Roland is quiet - other than the 88k GoPro. But theyíve been releasing on their special days during the year. 8/08 for example.


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Korg Gadget 2 is coming, and youíll also be able to buy its devices as Mac and PC plugins.




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I hope they made Gadget more performance-friendly, though I know that's not its focus. The two issues I've posted about before...

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the Triton and Mellow IAPs load into a Gadget called Glasgow. There are over 200 sounds in there, with no good way to navigate them, you just have to keep scrolling through the little hard-to-read 4-item window. There's no full screen, full text size pop-up menu, or any other method of seeing more than 4 of the 200+ at a time. Unless I missed something?

I wish the individual gadgets' presets could be recalled va MIDI Program Change on whichever channel you've assigned them to.


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I hope they've added ios AU support, and are leaving it as a surprise.

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Originally Posted By: SeaGtGruff
Originally Posted By: N4dr0j
How much do MIDI DIN ports cost to add in? There have been a few budget, light weight, 73 key'd pianos released recently that would have been perfect for a bottom slave board, but alas, no MIDI ports. Surely companies realise the market they miss out on by not including them?


I don't know about cost, but it seems like keyboards which are aimed at home users rather than gigging performers tend to have USB-MIDI only, so I guess Casio isn't targeting these new CDP models at gigging performers.

It's no big deal to me, because I'm strictly a home user and I usually keep my keyboards connected to my desktop computer via USB anyway, so my computer does all of the MIDI routing and processing that I need.

But I know that some home users won't seriously consider adding a 'board to their setup unless it has MIDI DIN ports so they can directly connect it to other equipment.

Pet peeve of mine. I bought a USB mid DIN adaptor for this situation. I posted a thread about this - Scott chimed in and give several other options which I was not aware of,
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
At this year's NAMM show, Deskew Technologies will be debuting Version 3 of Gig Performer, their VST/VST3/AU live performance plug-in host for Mac and Windows systems.


This has me very excited. I love GigPerformer and how it has evolved to it's current state.

The new functionality listed for V3 makes it that much better IMHO.


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2 new ones from Dexibell


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2 new ones from Dexibell



2 products besides the already announced S7 Pro. According to Piano Man Chuck, Dexibell put out some teaser about having a ďGrandĒ time with them at NAMM.

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Can run standalone, btw - without computer.

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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
My Casio PX360 is 26 pounds and I am looking to get a lighter model with the new casios. A 73 key Casio with an aluminum base, onboard monitors, that weighs ~ 19 pounds would be awesome.


You might be interested in checking out the CDP-S350, although itís 88 keys, not 73. You can download the manuals for it from Casioís web site, although I donít think itís been officially unveiled yetó any day now, though!

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/%22/

Looks like no MIDI DIN ports, if that matters to you; and polyphony is a bit low for a digital pianoó 64 notes, 32 for certain tones. But it has a goodly number of tones, and responds to MIDI messages for Attack/Release, Cutoff/Resonance, Portamento, etc., so Iím definitely interested in giving it a hard look. smile


CDP-S350 video from Jeremy See showed up in my news feed. Not terrible.



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Originally Posted By: Mighty Motif Max
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My Casio PX360 is 26 pounds and I am looking to get a lighter model with the new casios. A 73 key Casio with an aluminum base, onboard monitors, that weighs ~ 19 pounds would be awesome.


You might be interested in checking out the CDP-S350, although itís 88 keys, not 73. You can download the manuals for it from Casioís web site, although I donít think itís been officially unveiled yetó any day now, though!

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/%22/

Looks like no MIDI DIN ports, if that matters to you; and polyphony is a bit low for a digital pianoó 64 notes, 32 for certain tones. But it has a goodly number of tones, and responds to MIDI messages for Attack/Release, Cutoff/Resonance, Portamento, etc., so Iím definitely interested in giving it a hard look. smile


CDP-S350 video from Jeremy See showed up in my news feed. Not terrible.



Not sounding great in this video, Iím guessing Camera mic capturing the slim modelís onboard speakers. But very light at 24lbs (without batteries). I assume itís the same Casio action on PX-160 or no?

USB only no 5pin midi.

Two pedal jacks, not sure how useful:
DAMPER/ASSIGNABLE jack:
Standard jack (Sustain, Sostenuto, Soft, Rhythmus)
PEDAL-UNIT jack:
Proprietary jack (Sustain, Sostenuto, Soft)

But they did include a pitch bend wheel!

Could be nice small and light weight controller.


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I assume itís the same Casio action on PX-160 or no?

No, a new action.


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I assume itís the same Casio action on PX-160 or no?

No, a new action.


Ah thatís too bad. But I guess you canít get this slim and light with the other.


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Well that CDP-S350 sounds, uhm, limited, or cheap, both actually!

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Originally Posted By: Mighty Motif Max
Originally Posted By: SeaGtGruff


You might be interested in checking out the CDP-S350, although itís 88 keys, not 73. You can download the manuals for it from Casioís web site, although I donít think itís been officially unveiled yetó any day now, though!

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/%22/

Looks like no MIDI DIN ports, if that matters to you; and polyphony is a bit low for a digital pianoó 64 notes, 32 for certain tones. But it has a goodly number of tones, and responds to MIDI messages for Attack/Release, Cutoff/Resonance, Portamento, etc., so Iím definitely interested in giving it a hard look. smile


CDP-S350 video from Jeremy See showed up in my news feed. Not terrible.



Not sounding great in this video, Iím guessing Camera mic capturing the slim modelís onboard speakers. But very light at 24lbs (without batteries). I assume itís the same Casio action on PX-160 or no?

USB only no 5pin midi.

Two pedal jacks, not sure how useful:
DAMPER/ASSIGNABLE jack:
Standard jack (Sustain, Sostenuto, Soft, Rhythmus)
PEDAL-UNIT jack:
Proprietary jack (Sustain, Sostenuto, Soft)

But they did include a pitch bend wheel!

Could be nice small and light weight controller.


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Well that CDP-S350 sounds, uhm, limited, or cheap, both actually!

TV


Pretty sure that is a direct signal; notice no room noise, key thumping, breathing, or chair squeaking. His other videos seem to be direct to computer as well.

Not the greatest for sure, but it could be worse. Reminds me of some of their older stage pianos that I tried years ago. Not natural really.

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Korg Kross SE. Found it accidentally when looking at the downloads section on Korg USA.

Thought it was the Kross 2 until I found out that the Kross 2 is simply called "Kross" in the downloads.

Kross SE Downloads Section (Korg USA): https://www.korg.com/us/support/download/product/1/442/



EDIT: Looks like it hit the web four days ago. No mention here though.

https://www.gearnews.com/namm-2019-korg-dreams-up-some-kronos-krome-and-kross-specials/

https://www.musicradar.com/news/namm-201...-se-workstation

Pre-order price on Gear4Music is $778: https://www.gear4music.com/us/en/Keyboards-and-Pianos/Korg-Kross-61-SE-Neon-Blue/2U6Q

Man are those ugly IMO.




Edit 2: Korg UK's page under Kross 2: https://www.korg.com/uk/products/synthesizers/kross2/#se



Edit 3: J. Dan - perfect for a "reunion" of the Atari Twins (I think that was the name?).

Edit 4: Looks like just more sounds added (notice it says "pre-installed" rather than "expanded" or the like. Maybe they will have them for sale/available to Kross 2 owners.

New sounds list: https://cdn.korg.com/us/support/download...cation%2Fpdf%3B

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Reminds me a bit of the Alesis Micron. And not in a good way. :-)


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