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#2969486 - 01/17/19 08:12 AM NI Delays Massive X from February to June
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Just got the email yesterday from Native Instruments that the new Massive X release has been postponed from February to June due to needing more time.
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#2969489 - 01/17/19 08:34 AM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: jeffinpghpa]
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thanks, Jeff. I recieved no such email. Anyway, here is a link to NI for anyone interested in more info.

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/synths/massive-x/
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#2969492 - 01/17/19 08:41 AM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: davedoerfler]
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In related news, I've decided to postpone my upgrade to Komplete 12 due to needing more time.

Does look nice.


Busch.

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#2969496 - 01/17/19 08:55 AM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
In related news, I've decided to postpone my upgrade to Komplete 12 due to needing more time.


interesting thought, Bill. laugh
I had just discussed this same thing in another thread relating to one of your sample collections.

http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads...ine#Post2968338

Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Does look nice.


Love the gorilla. cool
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#2969571 - 01/17/19 01:32 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: davedoerfler]
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Aha, another Komplete 12 Select upgrader smile

I just got Select, and going by the past, there is a good chance there will be an upgrade sale (to go to Komplete standard) this spring or summer. That is my dastardly plan, at least. My main goal is get Kontakt, but like the movie theaters selling drinks, it's a better deal to get the whole package! grin That is, if you can use the other synths, which I know I will. Reaktor has me really excited. I already have Monark with Select, as well as Prism, and I'm very impressed with the sound of both of these.

If you got the email, you probably also got a 50 dollar voucher to spend--not sure I can hold onto it and apply it toward such an upgrade sale, if one actually happens. I suspect not smile

There's a big thread on this on KVR as you might expect. Massive X appears to be somewhat modular, which might be why it looks like Reaktor blocks more than the previous Massive.


Edited by Stokely (01/17/19 01:34 PM)

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#2969575 - 01/17/19 01:50 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Stokely]
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Hmm, I was going to delay some final album production on the two or three songs that use Massive, in case Massive X brings even more mojo to those same tracks (after tweaking the presets to take advantage of new features in "X"). Not sure I should wait that long, but time has a way of racing along as it is, so it may become a moot point before long.

I like the new GUI; it's less cluttered and easier on the eyes, with clearer workflow as well.


Edited by Mark Schmieder (01/17/19 01:50 PM)
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#2969611 - 01/17/19 03:37 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Just an fyi since I mentioned the voucher...as I suspected, I can't use it for a Komplete upgrade, on sale or otherwise:

"The e-voucher is valid for all Native Instruments software products in the NI Online Shop, excluding hardware, updates, upgrades, crossgrades, educational versions, and products already on special offer. "

Considering I am hoping to get Komplete, that means something that isn't in Komplete standard...razor...flesh...scanner xt...alicia's keys (which I can't use yet without kontakt....might just go for the replica upgrade to replica xt, I hear great things about it.

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#2969617 - 01/17/19 03:49 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Stokely]
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NI vouchers are generally useless, as they tend to have very short time-spans, during which no new product is released (except weird stuff like the mallet design tool, and lots of EDM add-ons).
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#2969636 - 01/17/19 05:16 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
In related news, I've decided to postpone my upgrade to Komplete 12 due to needing more time.

grin

(Too bad we don't have a "like" button.)

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#2969663 - 01/17/19 08:02 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
(Too bad we don't have a "like" button.)


we have this cool

like
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#2969670 - 01/17/19 08:54 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: davedoerfler]
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Is Massive X would be treated as a different instrument, or an upgrade to the standard Massive that came with Komplete 12?
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#2969677 - 01/17/19 09:32 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
(Too bad we don't have a "like" button.)


we have this cool

like

like

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#2969755 - 01/18/19 08:25 AM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
NI vouchers are generally useless, as they tend to have very short time-spans, during which no new product is released (except weird stuff like the mallet design tool, and lots of EDM add-ons).


Yeah, I found this out last night after my last post.

Anything I actually wanted was either too much $ for me, or it was coming in Komplete eventually anyway, or I couldn't get it due to it being an upgrade (Replika for example). So I just used it on an expansion, which conveniently are 49 bucks smile Well, a free expansion, and who knows I might actually use some of the samples! I got "Arcane Attic", seemed a bit different than all the "phat chill beats" that all the others seem to be....

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#2969757 - 01/18/19 08:28 AM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Sam CA]
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Originally Posted By: Sam CA
Is Massive X would be treated as a different instrument, or an upgrade to the standard Massive that came with Komplete 12?


It is not an actual upgrade, it will run alongside Massive. Patches from the original won't work in MX, so it's pretty much a different beast all round. I'm guessing the similarity will be wavetables chiefly. I understand the guy who mainly did Monark is involved (Mike Daliot) and folks on KVR seem plenty happy about that. Sound quality probably won't be an issue, I think most of the "worry" is over workflow changes.

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#2969780 - 01/18/19 09:41 AM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Stokely]
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Originally Posted By: Stokely


It is not an actual upgrade, it will run alongside Massive. Patches from the original won't work in MX, so it's pretty much a different beast all round. I'm guessing the similarity will be wavetables chiefly. I understand the guy who mainly did Monark is involved (Mike Daliot) and folks on KVR seem plenty happy about that. Sound quality probably won't be an issue, I think most of the "worry" is over workflow changes.


Got it. It'll be a 'new' instrument that we can purchase.
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#2969842 - 01/18/19 01:13 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Sam CA]
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Stokely, are you SURE about that? One of the beta testers said on another forum that it is a REPLACEMENT (i.e. upgrade) for Massive, which exits the catalogue at that point. I've never known the guy to be wrong, in 15 years (I've been on beta test teams with him also, and the guy is obsessive about details, facts, and proof).
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#2969846 - 01/18/19 01:22 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Hmm, I'm just going by what some of the KVR folks are saying. They seem very sure! I believe one of them is also a beta tester.

Considering all the soundsets and tunes that use Massive, it would be a mistake IMO for them to just discontinue it. One thing people seem sure about is the fact that patches from one won't work on the other.

I certainly don't want to steer anyone wrong by repeating false info. Perhaps contact NI and see if they can tell you definitely.

Edit (again). Ok, found why everyone seems so sure, this is from the NI main massive X page.

"MASSIVE X will be available in June 2019. If you already own KOMPLETE 12, youíll get MASSIVE X as a free download via Native Access. MASSIVE X is an addition to the MASSIVE family, and will exist side by side with the original instrument."

I had to scroll down a bunch (not a fan of those newfangled web pages honestly....)



Edited by Stokely (01/18/19 01:30 PM)

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#2969850 - 01/18/19 01:39 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
One of the beta testers said on another forum that it is a REPLACEMENT (i.e. upgrade) for Massive, which exits the catalogue at that point.


hey Mark, this is taken from the link I provided above issued by Native Instruments
" MASSIVE X is an addition to the MASSIVE family, and will exist side by side with the original instrument".

Here is the link again

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/synths/massive-x/
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#2969875 - 01/18/19 03:16 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: davedoerfler]
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OK, they probably changed their minds then, which often happens. As I'm still under NDA for beta teams I've been part of, all that I can say is that I have seen one product completely change its purpose and design as well as backward-sideways-forward compatibility. Most of these changes of purpose come from the beta feedback.
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#2969877 - 01/18/19 03:19 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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They also have a new FAQ's page (at least, new since I last checked a month or two ago). Some useful excerpts:

Will it replace MASSIVE?:
MASSIVE X and MASSIVE will coexist, ensuring ongoing MASSIVE compatibility for your existing DAW projects and access to your favorite MASSIVE sounds.

Will it open MASSIVE presets?:
MASSIVE X is an entirely new instrument, with new features, and a completely new sound engine, so thereís no cross compatibility between MASSIVE X and MASSIVE.

Will there be a discount for existing MASSIVE owners?:
Yes! And if you already own KOMPLETE 12 (or ULTIMATE, or the COLLECTORíS EDITION), you will receive MASSIVE X automatically as soon as itís released.
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#2980227 - 03/15/19 08:59 AM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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from our gracious hosts at Music Radar thu

"NI Massive X synth details revealed, but still no sounds, price or release date"

https://www.musicradar.com/news/ni-massi...or-release-date
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#2980242 - 03/15/19 11:42 AM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: davedoerfler]
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Man, really hoping for a summer sale on Komplete upgrades this year....then again, I picked up a couple u-he synths during that rare sale so it's not like I don't have enough to keep me busy!

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#2980306 - 03/15/19 11:01 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Stokely]
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Originally Posted By: Stokely
Man, really hoping for a summer sale on Komplete upgrades this year....then again, I picked up a couple u-he synths during that rare sale so it's not like I don't have enough to keep me busy!



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#2980354 - 03/16/19 11:57 AM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: jeffinpghpa]
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Originally Posted By: jeffinpghpa
the new Massive X release has been postponed from February to June due to needing more time.

I can't think of a better reason -- in any situation.
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#2985706 - 04/17/19 02:12 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Tom Williams]
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Here's a preview of the sound:





More here:

Massive X Lab 2: the Oscillator Section

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#2987316 - 04/29/19 06:51 AM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I am wondering if there will be a Native Instruments summer sale on Komplete upgrades this year or not. It is getting close to the time of year when they are usually announced.

I would love to do a half priced upgrade to Komplete 12 Ultimate, but I am wondering if the timing to release Massive X in June will create a bigger appetite for Komplete 12 sales and skip the tradition of a discounted upgrades.
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#2987342 - 04/29/19 11:23 AM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: jeffinpghpa]
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It's possible. No one can predict the future with certainty.

Nonetheless, Native Instruments has established a pretty reliable pattern of releases and sales. My money is on them sticking to it.

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#2987366 - 04/29/19 02:44 PM Re: NI Delays Massive X from February to June [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I already paid for it a long time ago so I don't care anymore, but the demos so far do not impress in the least. Even so, this is almost always the case with NI demos, as they cater to a very different sort of musician than me.
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