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Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports
davedoerfler #2969093 01/15/19 05:23 PM
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lotta bang for the buck here


Agreed, even without the 3rd party custom oscillators.

Volca Modular looks similarly stunning in bang for the buck - they managed to squeeze a decent reverb into there.

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Deleted -- Already answered in other thread

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There's also that vendor in England whose name I forget -- I think it starts with a "B"? -- who tends to do by far the most informative videos and tutorials of anyone. I'll look it up once home, if no one posts in the meantime.


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Hey guys, the discussion moved to its own topic for CP-88/CP-73. All questions and follow-up are already resolved there. We need to keep this NAMM discussion free from bloat on a mega-product announcement that already has its own dedicated thread.

http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads...the#Post2969072

I have deleted and moved my earlier comments to try to nip this in the bud.

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Mark Schmieder #2969214 01/16/19 06:00 AM
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Kronos SE is red. There is a new 'Italian' Grand plus the new KApro sound set from Kurt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p_idBuKirk

https://www.korg.com/us/products/synthesizers/kronos2/#se

And no it probably doesn't need another thread. It's red. Just like the platinum one and the black one. Big whoop. I liked the platinum better. Better for low light environments.

" * All specifications other than color, Italian piano, and KApro sounds are identical to the standard model of the KRONOS"

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Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports
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" * All specifications other than color, Italian piano, and KApro sounds are identical to the standard model of the KRONOS"

I'm kind of surprised they did not add the transistor organ engine that they developed for the Continental/Grandstage.

I'm glad to see another color on the 61, to help address the stage visibility of the usual black-on-black design.


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Eh,it's just a limited edition paint job.



"The KRONOS SE includes a standard new Italian piano PCM, based on the Italian sounds featured in the KORG Grandstage. These special edition sounds coincide with the release of KApros sound library KApro Showcase; featuring more than 100 titles to compose and perform extraordinary music.

In addition to the remarkable new sounds, the KRONOS SE is designed with its signature high impact front panel, in a beautiful red and black finish, perfect for players looking to add a little flare to their keyboard rig."


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Thread is already going for this, but I thought it should get a mention here anyways to keep things together.

Korg Krome EX: https://www.korg.com/us/products/synthesizers/krome_ex/




So far it seems to be a Krome with more sounds added.

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Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Eh,it's just a limited edition paint job.



"The KRONOS SE includes a standard new Italian piano PCM, based on the Italian sounds featured in the KORG Grandstage."


Does it mean that new Italian Grand is PCM and not SGX-2 based as in the Grandstage? And that colour ... would probably irritate me if I look at it for too long. looks like this year will be Yamaha's year, not Korg's.

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Originally Posted By: gg22

Does it mean that new Italian Grand is PCM and not SGX-2 based as in the Grandstage? And that colour ... would probably irritate me if I look at it for too long. looks like this year will be Yamaha's year, not Korg's.


In the very short intro video it shows the SGX screen while the person plays the Italian grand. All SGX pianos are sample/PCM-based. You can load any of the Kronos SGX pianos into HD-1, though you lose quite a bit in the process.

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I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.


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Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports
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Daniel Fisher video on the Minilogue xd. I didn't realize it has the FXs from the Prologue. In many ways, it's a poor man's Prologue.



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Originally Posted By: Toano88
I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.


It does look odd. Maybe it's one of those things that looks better in person, don't know.

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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Daniel Fisher video on the Minilogue xd. I didn't realize it has the FXs from the Prologue. In many ways, it's a poor man's Prologue.



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Impressive. Didn't expect such a huge sounds coming out of this little keyboard.

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Originally Posted By: Toano88
I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.

Reminds me of the ill-fated (and poorly named, IMO) Ensoniq Fizmo.



eek facepalm

Korg chose to go with kind of a Nord red highlight though...can we call it a Norg? idk grin

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Originally Posted By: Toano88
I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.

Reminds me of the ill-fated (and poorly named, IMO) Ensoniq Fizmo.



eek facepalm

Korg chose to go with kind of a Nord red highlight though...can we call it a Norg? idk grin

dB


Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC


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Originally Posted By: jimkost2002
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Originally Posted By: Toano88
I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.

Reminds me of the ill-fated (and poorly named, IMO) Ensoniq Fizmo.



eek facepalm

Korg chose to go with kind of a Nord red highlight though...can we call it a Norg? idk grin

dB


Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC

Fizmos? If so, not surprising. Actually a pretty cool instrument with interesting technology (at the time, especially).

Too bad it was so funny looking and had such an odd name. rolleyes

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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Originally Posted By: Toano88
I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.

Reminds me of the ill-fated (and poorly named, IMO) Ensoniq Fizmo.



eek facepalm

Korg chose to go with kind of a Nord red highlight though...can we call it a Norg? idk grin

dB


That was my immediate thought as well. "Those who don't learn are doomed to repeat, yadda yadda" snax

Korg really has a thing for cosmetic repackaging to claim a special edition, don't they?


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The SGX-2 engine uses PCM. Just not in the HD-1 voice architecture.

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Eh,it's just a limited edition paint job.



"The KRONOS SE includes a standard new Italian piano PCM, based on the Italian sounds featured in the KORG Grandstage."


Does it mean that new Italian Grand is PCM and not SGX-2 based as in the Grandstage? And that colour ... would probably irritate me if I look at it for too long. looks like this year will be Yamaha's year, not Korg's.

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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Daniel Fisher video on the Minilogue xd.


putting Daniel Fisher in front of a synth is like putting Joey DeFrancesco in front of a clonewheel. Just makes you need to buy it. cool


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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Fizmos? If so, not surprising. Actually a pretty cool instrument with interesting technology (at the time, especially).


Originally Posted By: jimkost2002

Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC


couldn't sell them when they were new 20 years ago, nobody wanted it. Wonder how the parts/repairs department is holding up?


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Korg really has a thing for cosmetic repackaging to claim a special edition, don't they?


Remember the X50 "Camo Edition?" Looks like someone threw up on it...


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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
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Fizmos? If so, not surprising. Actually a pretty cool instrument with interesting technology (at the time, especially).


Originally Posted By: jimkost2002

Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC


couldn't sell them when they were new 20 years ago, nobody wanted it. Wonder how the parts/repairs department is holding up?

I used to have two Fizmos in my attic. Both gone now for spare parts.

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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
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Fizmos? If so, not surprising. Actually a pretty cool instrument with interesting technology (at the time, especially).


Originally Posted By: jimkost2002

Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC


couldn't sell them when they were new 20 years ago, nobody wanted it. Wonder how the parts/repairs department is holding up?


Perhaps the synth biz is more like running a distillery than a technology company -- plans for high end boutique products have to include 20 years of barrel aging.

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I have been seriously hoping for years that Casio will finally make a digital piano that I will want to support.

I am NOT going to be able to make it to NAMM this year - no one took me up on my offer of to and from cartage from LAX to Anaheim in exchange for a pass. Your loss.

Back to Casio. The new Yamaha P- 515 is going to give it some SERIOUS competition, at least in the amplified digital piano category. I hope they are up to the challenge.

The P 515 has five or six very good digital piano samples including CFX and Bosendorfer. Not to mention - finally - some very good Rhodes and Wurli samples.

The internal amplification system gets up and SPEAKS. Add a subwoofer to this and the output competes with a grand piano. It may be possible to gig this and not have to bring any more than a small subwoofer - for solo gigs and jazz trio etc. at least.

Price point is 1500 dollars, so at a 10 to 15 percent sale, roughly 1300 - 1350

So I am hoping Casio is up to this.

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Yamaha's P515 DIGITAL PIANO weighs 48.5 pounds. That's too heavy for me to move around with. My Casio PX360 is 26 pounds and I am looking to get a lighter model with the new casios. A 73 key Casio with an aluminum base, onboard monitors, that weighs ~ 19 pounds would be awesome.


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Originally Posted By: LX88
The new Yamaha P- 515 is going to give it some SERIOUS competition, at least in the amplified digital piano category.


A friend just recorded this on his P-515. Just going on the video, it sounds to have more warmth then my CP4. Too heavy for most gig schleps but perfect for me at home. Would love to get out of headphone mode in the office and drive my wife nuts transposing lines and voicings to all keys... poke...can you go outside to the studio to do that stuff !! cry




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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
My Casio PX360 is 26 pounds and I am looking to get a lighter model with the new casios. A 73 key Casio with an aluminum base, onboard monitors, that weighs ~ 19 pounds would be awesome.


You might be interested in checking out the CDP-S350, although its 88 keys, not 73. You can download the manuals for it from Casios web site, although I dont think its been officially unveiled yet any day now, though!

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/%22/

Looks like no MIDI DIN ports, if that matters to you; and polyphony is a bit low for a digital piano 64 notes, 32 for certain tones. But it has a goodly number of tones, and responds to MIDI messages for Attack/Release, Cutoff/Resonance, Portamento, etc., so Im definitely interested in giving it a hard look. smile

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How much do MIDI DIN ports cost to add in? There have been a few budget, light weight, 73 key'd pianos released recently that would have been perfect for a bottom slave board, but alas, no MIDI ports. Surely companies realise the market they miss out on by not including them?


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