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Speaking of Guitar Gods #2960824 12/01/18 04:51 PM
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Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen, Zakk Wilde, and another guitar player doing an instrumental version of Bohemian Rhapsody. Wow,
friggin, Wow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o4Ed6kdy4c


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Hadn't heard that one yet [Thanks, DBM !]--- that's from the recent Gtr Marathon event Vai hosted, right ?
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[correction: Oops, I guess not, as they were in PA. blush]
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BTW, the other cat (next to Wylde) is Nuno Bettencourt.

Kinda surprised, myself, that Wylde's in there but that's just me I guess.

Here's a somewhat similarly (to me) incongruous mix:
Back in 2011 Saulie "Slash" Hudson & Ronnie Wood joined BBK, Sue & Derek Trucks + Mick Hucknall, the not-quite-Van-Morrison vocalist from Simply Red.
It's got several entertaining moments (mostly from BBK) but don't miss the action at 2:30 +




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I posted this one elsewhere....

https://youtu.be/BHXe8-qhx-Q

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Just wanted to be a one hit wonder and almost got there a few times. Had a few pretty good high-level connections at a young age and hopefully some talent. Was never very fast, never had great chops so had to develop good taste and be subtle.

My band was re-mastered/re-released a couple of years back. We had Felix Pappalardi on back vocals, fuzz-bass, horn plus Felix did the production/arrangement with Tom Dowd on the board at Atlantic's amazing studio. Originally released on Atlantic Records, a magic place to work IMO.

We were hanging-out in Felix's living room in NY running through a few things when he came in with a mixdown of "Stange Brew" which he wrote, arranged, produced. Clapton's first major hit with Cream in North America. Felix also produced The YoungBloods huge hit & Leslie West/Mountain. Our drummer for 6 years (Corky Laing) wrote Mississippi Queen just after we broke up the band. Fun times, I could write a book.



A year later 1969 next band got a top 20 in Canada plus Billboard top 100. My production partner's 15 year old kid brother on vocals. Had the Lead Lines all worked-out, scrapped them, jammed it in the studio and got lucky on the intro in 2 or 3 takes. Lost a few really good lines on the 4 track - couldn't keep it all unlike today.

Happy that I'm still able to lift my axe, go to jam sessions plus do the odd gig. Used the $$$ from those days to become a CPA, retired and am out playing again but my connections have all croaked. On the other hand we got royally screwed-over a couple of times by the whores and thieves in the record business but I would do it all again anyways.

From my songwriter oldest musical buddy production partner who created Bartholomew plus 3 and Life with me:

"I was looking for a place in the sun/I had it under my thumb/But I didn't know"

"I was holding a dream in my hand/I felt it turn into sand/But I wouldn't let go"



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Re: Speaking of Guitar Gods [Re: Bartholomew] #2960954 12/02/18 07:06 PM
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I recall you from earlier posts, Bart...
Good to hear from you again !

Yer association w/Pappalardi was just as he was working on D GEARS then, he ?
& Laing wasin yer band pre-Mountain ?

Even cooler you got to work w/T Dowd, an engineer who was also a high level physicist, gear designer & history-making producer !

Just curious, did you ever meet Gail Collins ? shocked

Of the 2 trax you posted this time, FWIW, I much prefer the 2nd.
Not to sound surprised but "Hands" is actually a really good song & arrangement ! thu
Is that you on all the lead parts ?
Did yer negative economic experience in the Biz lead to yer decision CPA ? rolleyes


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How about THIS Mt. Olympus.....?

https://youtu.be/M0J_ffTcPv4

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Re: Speaking of Guitar Gods [Re: whitefang] #2961048 12/03/18 03:17 PM
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Thanks for that clip, Fang ---great to see Albert Collins there.
He died a few months after that was filmed. frown

If anyone skipped looking at that vid, BIG MISTAKE---it's really good !
SWEET LITTLE ANGEL
1:00 / BBK announces key & starts solo 1:00~1:40
1:40 / verse 1 / Collins plays fills
2nd verse
3:00 / Beck solo w/typically great use of vib bar
3:40 / Collins solo [catch what he does at the 4:00 mark ! ]
4:20 / Guy sings a verse + plays fills
4:55 / Guy solos [ note:somebody ( I think it's Collins) is playing answering lines that seem to crack Buddy up ]
5:35 / EC does a particularly long-lined solo
BBK sings a verse which ends [6:45 + ] w/him suing each player for a set of exit lines

Bill Cosby lectures them tha they need to "Open it up !"

8:00 / THE GOOD TIMES ROLL
9:10 Beck solo
9:30 Collins solo [notice that he's staring hard at Guy throughout !]
9:50 / Guy solos w/EC vamping behind him
10:10 / Clapton solo

The Big Finish is overshadowed by a stage invasion of celebs.

FWIW, here's part 1 of the clip Fang set us up with.

Cosby announces BBK who introduces Eric Clapton

1:30 / ROCK ME BABY
opening w/BBK solo over EC vamp
1st vox verse / BBK [note EC's reaction @ 2:25 to BBK's rhythm gtr player imitating his vamp]
verse 2 / BBK
verse 3 / EC vox & BBK plays fills
3:55 EC solo
verse 4 / BBK
5:00 / BBK & EC trade licks for almost 2 minutes ! rawk rawk

Thanks again, WF !
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You're more than welcome. And I DID hunt down( and thankfully found) that clip MINUS the Cosby intro, and went with IT instead.

And here's something I thought of last night( but waited until this morning to hunt down...)

And too, still lookin' to get a CD reissue of "Spaces" wink

https://youtu.be/ot5eXqhRs9I

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Lot of questions d, don't want to hi-jack the thread but have time now to do a couple of them:

Felix was co-writing and producing the first Cream album when he signed us after an audition in Corky's basement in Montreal arranged by our Agent/Manager. Gail did a lot of the photography and artwork plus co-wrote a few tunes also showed us what acapulco gold was for the first time. Our bass player wrote the B side of Mississippi Queen, Corky wrote the A side, Felix and Leslie West also took credit. That cowbell did my Sweet Sixteens, parties etc for 6 years before we broke up. Cork was at the right time, right place or would have been a wedding drummer in Montreal as he once said. Unfortunately he became arrogant after the hit record. I've also done sessions with Jim Gordon in England while Jim was playing drums for Joe Cocker, Derek and The Dominoes, Leon Russell, Traffic, plus Jim did jingles and tv soundtracks. Have to say that he was nuts but down to earth no bs, no arrogance, no attitude, did a ton of hit records from The Everly Bros onward and had a silver spoon with a little bag of coke on his belt always. Felix and Gail were junkies from what I heard and Gail shot him with a derringer he bought her for her birthday. By accident...in the back of the head...found out he was having an affair. She always had a wicked temper, am unable to understand how she mostly walked away in court but she croaked anyways - karma.

"Hands of the Clock" was my pick for a single out of about 15 tunes that my buddy song-writer created. I did part of the production and some of the arrangement. There are guitars that are not obvious - octave fuzz-tone lines as a bed under the strings, blast the volume and it may come through. The vocals almost suck and my partner and myself always thought it may have gone much further up the charts with a good singer. Plus I had a couple of better lead lines that got lost on the 4 track.

Got tired of life on the road, shit food and being alone most of the time. Became a CPA and later the Business Manager for one of the top session singers in Canada doing major ad jingles (MacDonalds, Burger King, Pepsi, Coke, Honda, GM, Chrysler, Wendy's, Coors, Bud, etc) for radio & tv...gave up playing for approx 30 years to handle money. All those jingles get recut in French and English when they come to Canada and my Client was the Queen of ACTRA and Union des Artistes in French until she joined the Celine show in Vegas after doing this for 20 years.

Hope I'm not being too much of a windbag here - have lots more details but this isn't the time or place. I love money...love music also but won't starve for the art. Everyone I knew from then is either broke or dead except me, Corky, George our bass player.

People ask me how a corporate taxation specialist with a B.Comm, CPA can be a guitar player. Answer is - "I only have to count to 4".


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Originally Posted By: Bartholomew
don't want to hi-jack the thread
Hey, Bart, as you may've noticed, hijacking threads is part of our fun here !
Originally Posted By: Bartholomew
That cowbell did my Sweet Sixteens, parties etc for 6 years
twothumbs One of pop music's greatest intros & recognizable by the 3rd hit !
Originally Posted By: Bartholomew
Cork was at the right time, right place or would have been a wedding drummer in Montreal
Yes, life is a combination of preparation & luck (sometimes good, sometimes the other.
Originally Posted By: Bartholomew
did sessions with Jim Gordon in England

Like to hear more abt that (& I bet others would too !)
Originally Posted By: Bartholomew
Have to say that he was nuts
& that;s why he's behind bas for murder now.
Originally Posted By: Bartholomew
Got tired of life on the road,
As many have.
Originally Posted By: Bartholomew
love music also but won't starve for the art
Y'know, Bart, in the modern world it may be entirely possible to have considerable success, both artistically & financially, mktg online, if one has the impulse + the skills at generating publicity.
In that formula, both those are, truthfully, more important than the product itself.
As a CPA, you'd already have a leg up on most, in the biz sense.
Originally Posted By: Bartholomew
People ask me how a corporate taxation specialist with a B.Comm, CPA can be a guitar player. Answer is - "I only have to count to 4"
grin
FWIW, re Pappalardi, did you know/realize that "Strange Brew"---the Cream tune, not some Canadian beer from Bob & Doug McKenzie---was just his ("hers" if Gail wrote 'em) lyrics slapped onto a couple Albert King song riffs ?
Which, of course, leads us back to "Gtr Gods"


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FWIW, re Pappalardi, did you know/realize that "Strange Brew"---the Cream tune, not some Canadian beer from Bob & Doug McKenzie---was just his ("hers" if Gail wrote 'em) lyrics slapped onto a couple Albert King song riffs ?


Speaking of Felix Pappalardi, I saw him live with Mountain at a club in Boston called The Ark. My buddy was a bouncer there so we got in free. 6 hour drive each way from South Jersey, got home about dawn. It was a very decent concert.


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Heh....

There's a long popular venue in ANN ARBOR, MI called The Ark too. Long known for featuring those somewhat obscure artists you used to only hear on public radio. It's CHRIS SMITHER's usual stop whenever he comes 'round these parts. Rock acts usually wound up at the Chrysler Auditorium.
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Wow---is that place (tha Ark, Ann Arbor version) still going ?! freak
Originally Posted By: desertbluesman
Speaking of Felix Pappalardi, I saw him live with Mountain at a club in Boston called The Ark. My buddy was a bouncer there so we got in free. 6 hour drive each way from South Jersey, got home about dawn. It was a very decent concert.

Mountain, besides having great players, particularly in Les West, were a much more focused & less tiresome band than their model Cream was at times.


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Originally Posted By: d

Originally Posted By: desertbluesman
Speaking of Felix Pappalardi, I saw him live with Mountain at a club in Boston called The Ark. My buddy was a bouncer there so we got in free. 6 hour drive each way from South Jersey, got home about dawn. It was a very decent concert.

Mountain, besides having great players, particularly in Les West, were a much more focused & less tiresome band than their model Cream was at times.


I really liked the Cream as one of my favorite groups. This is before all the Bruce/Baker feuding. Especially the Wheels Of Fire Album. Mainly because of the fire between the three when they were on. Of course later on the smack helped to disrupt their focus.


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Originally Posted By: d
Wow---is that place (tha Ark, Ann Arbor version) still going ?! freak


rolleyes
Did I NOT state that it's CHRIS SMITHER's usual stop whenever he hits this state? Yep, still going STRONG for 58 years now! wink
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Originally Posted By: desertbluesman
... before all the Bruce/Baker feuding...

Actually those cats, who'd played together previously, were at odds before Cream ever formed. EC hadda negotiate between them to even get that band going ...& BT Further W, despite Bruce's development as a material creator/contributor, that band was always Clapton's, though his personality at that time wasn't strong enough to dictate full control.
It was him that Atlantic records sought & when he decided the band had turned down the wrong path in focus, he who decided their end.


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Most people don't know this but --- there was NO jamming in the studio with Felix, Cream, Mountain or our sessions or others. Every line, every punch, every note, every drum beat was worked-out in advance. If you listen to Mississippi Queen, Corky was never allowed to do more than back to back triplets. When we were together Corky couldn't always get back into time when complicated so KISS.

If you go to uTube and listen to Leslie in live concert venues with a different bass player after Felix was gone compared to the way he was with Felix on bass you will notice a difference in the guitar leads which became a complete wanker mess at times. Felix would never have allowed that while he was alive. Not to detract from West, he's a great player and some of the stuff he does from his wheelchair now is amazing.

Agreed that Strange Brew written by Felix and Gail is a total theft from Blues players, the guitar intro is note for note from Buddy Guy - "Damn Right I Got the Blues". Was a fun time, we all got nailed a bit for $$$, would have been screwed more if we had a hit record no doubt but I would do it all again in a heartbeat.

Felix and Bud Prager (Bud was our showbiz Lawyer who owned 50% of everything Felix did, Bud managed Foreigner, founded the Nashville Country Music Association, worked with Chet, Everly Bros etc etc) both screwed Cork over big-time regarding royalty payments. Biggest royalties came after they both croaked, particularly from Guitar Hero video games.

Our Agent was a CPA from Montreal who started with his Father's booking agency here, became a Vegas booker on major acts, managed Natalie Cole, booked The Supremes, Sly, Green Day, Demi Lovato, other name groups & singers, became one of the head guys at William Morris Agency in LA, sold his 1/3 share in Mountain back to Bud & Felix for $80,000 and was kicking himself up the ass for the next 40 years.

Our bass player from B+3 who wrote B side "For Yasgur's Farm" was convinced to do a royalty buyout with Bud & Felix for $20,000 and has been kicking himself since 1970 plus he was asked to join Peter Frampton's band by either Bud or our Agent which he turned down due mostly to arrogance...thought he was too good for them before they hit. Biggest mistake ever...


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And it does get weary, I suppose. For example:

From the documentary; "The Day The Music Died"( '77) listen to what sounds like a slight glitch @ 1:51

https://youtu.be/KzTMzj34fpc
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I'm very grateful to have seen this thread a couple weeks ago. Just for kicks, I googled the Steve Vai and friends "Generation Axe" tour and turns out they were playing a nearby city the very next day!

I saw Steve, Yngwee, Nuno, and Zakk in Richmond, VA on 12/5. Incredible! Nuno Bettencourt stole the show, I thought.

Yes, they played Bohemian Rhapsody too.

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Very Cool Steve! We're glad you read something and this forum which got you to go to the show and be with the Guitar Gods! cool


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The Generation Axe tour was awesome. It was pretty sweet to see Vai, Yngwie, Wylde, Nuno, and Tosin all on one stage. It was definitely worth going to. If Vai decides to head this tour up again, I will definitely.

I almost enjoyed this show better than the last G3 tour I went to.


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