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#2959326 - 11/23/18 01:25 PM Winter NAMM 2019 Reports
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As most of you know, the 2019 Winter NAMM Show will begin Thursday, January 24th at the Anaheim Convention Center, and run through Sunday, the 27th. Like last year, there are three threads: 1) an advance thread for speculation, wish lists, and early product announcements, or "NAMMticipation" as I like to call it, 2) an advance thread for planning: how to get passes, when and where to meet up with other forum members, etc., and 3) the traditional NAMM Reports thread for product announcements, videos, and reports from members on what and who they saw at the Convention Center.

This, of course, is the traditional NAMM Reports thread.

Please post your Winter NAMM 2019 reports here, for forum members who are not fortunate enough to go to the show.

Feel free to discuss NAMM announced gear, events, and performances in this thread.

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#2965635 - 12/30/18 01:36 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Dear Senior Trade Show Overseer!

As you may remember I'm basically covering the NAMM Show from the guitar player perspective. So should I post my NAMM report here or somewhere else?

Cheers,

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#2965662 - 12/30/18 07:08 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mats Nermark]
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Imo aside from devices that potentially overlap into the keyboard world (certain effects pedals for example) it might be best to start a separate NAMM - Guitar Focus thread. However I don't think anyone's going to get too bent out of shape if you report here.

Good on you for thinking to ask. twothumbs

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#2965759 - 12/30/18 01:35 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Markyboard]
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It's good to see you here, Mats! I certainly want to encourage you to post here as often as you have something relevant to add. Your insight is always valuable. My experience is that we have a moderate tolerance—and sometimes enjoyment—of off-topic threads here, as long as they're labeled "OT:" in the subject heading.

As Mark pointed out, it's likely that there may be some interest from keyboard players in elements of your report; and of course, some of our forum members play both keyboards and guitar. His suggestion of a separate thread is a good idea, and I think it would be great if you could post a link to it in this thread.

Best,

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#2966594 - 01/03/19 03:05 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Synclavier Digital Corporation (SDC) is debuting two iOS apps, based on the Synclavier Digital Audio System



Synclavier Go! (for iPad) and Synclavier Pocket! (for iPhone and iPod Touch) re-create the original Synclavier II FM Synthesis engine, with a touch-screen interface inspired by the original hardware. The Synclavier DSP Engine – used by Arturia in its Synclavier V product line – is a faithful recreation of the FM- and Additive-Synthesis functions of the original instrument.

Synclavier Knob is an authentic re-creation of the control knob used in the original Synclavier instrument. This USB-powered version o?ers an unparalleled experience for the sound designer and synthesist, especially when compared to traditional mouse-driven computer interfaces.

Pricing and Availability

The new iOS apps are expected to be available on Jan 23. Pricing is TBA. Availability and pricing for the Synclavier Knob is TBA. Details are still to come at the Synclavier site.
http://www.synclavier.com
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#2966628 - 01/03/19 06:26 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2966629 - 01/03/19 06:27 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Fleer]
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Add $400 for the knob.

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#2966631 - 01/03/19 06:43 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd

Synclavier Knob is an authentic re-creation of the control knob used in the original Synclavier instrument. This USB-powered version o?ers an unparalleled experience for the sound designer and synthesist, especially when compared to traditional mouse-driven computer interfaces.


What's the deal with the knob on a Synclav? I always assumed it was just a data wheel like the Roland Alpha Dial, or the countless variants that have appeared after.
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#2966809 - 01/04/19 02:27 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Fleer]
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Add $400 for the knob.


You've got to be kidding me. $400 for a freaking knob?!? The Microsoft Dial is a hundred bucks.

I think who ever made that pricing decision is a knob.

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#2966977 - 01/05/19 09:30 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Franz Schiller]
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Derek Badala of RME will be giving an potentially interesting lecture on Choosing the Right Audio Interface on Friday, January 25, 2019, 12:00pm to 2:00pm, Hilton, Level 4, C2.

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When choosing an audio interface, there are several things to consider to obtain the perfect interface for your needs. With Firewire essentially obsolete, many think that Thunderbolt is the best solution. Is this true? Also, is USB 2.0 still good enough for the latest audio requirements? Is USB 3.0 an alternative? Additionally, there’s a modern-day obstacle—latency! When audio recording transitioned from analog to digital in the 1990s, life became a lot easier for recording engineers—edits, overdubs and effect processing were quicker and more powerful. The downside was the introduction of a new challenge that didn’t exist before in the analog world. In an audio interface, there are several places where latency starts, and each one must be addressed in order to provide low-latency monitoring. We will look at how a complete approach to interface design takes all these bottlenecks into account and can offer a much better experience for the end user.
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#2967043 - 01/05/19 02:54 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Ahem, OT ( short for Off topic )
If you are informally ( as in loosely ) invited to play at a booth... can a suitable keyboard be readily provided by the one who is responsibile for booth?
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#2967056 - 01/05/19 03:30 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mats Nermark]
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Mats, I encourage you to post anything here that is not specifically for guitar. A great example would be small reviews of the many creative Electro-Harmonix pedals, which are often useful for keyboardists. Everyone has to be a virtual producer to some extent, so any new item might end up being a welcome addition or problem solver in a rig. Bring it on, please. like
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#2967410 - 01/07/19 07:29 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: David Emm]
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Hmmm - Monday, January 8 and very little “leaks”, buzz, rumors from the keyboard developers. We’re in a holding pattern.
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#2967432 - 01/07/19 08:27 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Casio just posted a Privia teaser video on FB.
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#2967434 - 01/07/19 08:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: SteveCoscia]
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Here's the link to the video:

New Privia teaser.


Edited by BluMunk (01/07/19 08:32 AM)

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#2967443 - 01/07/19 09:00 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: BluMunk]
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Pretty, pretty, pretty good.

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#2967446 - 01/07/19 09:10 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: BluMunk]
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Originally Posted By: BluMunk
Here's the link to the video:

New Privia teaser.


Here you go:
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#2967470 - 01/07/19 11:11 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mike Martin]
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Looks like 88 keys :-(

Cheers, Mike.
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#2967471 - 01/07/19 11:19 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: stoken6]
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The year of the big knob?
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#2967522 - 01/07/19 02:06 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Delaware Dave]
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The year of the big knob?

Very likely. wink
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#2967570 - 01/07/19 05:23 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mike Martin]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Martin
Originally Posted By: BluMunk
Here's the link to the video:

New Privia teaser.


Here you go:


Thank you, Mike! Great way to kick this thread off!
The controls and feedback under the faceplate does look slick and stylish.
I’m thinking really nice for living room instruments and venue installs on console type instruments. Slim as well... practice rooms and apartments. interest peaked!
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#2967683 - 01/08/19 07:57 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Pop Strings UK - QUpArts

"Q Up Arts releases Pop Strings UK. This amazing collection features the cellist and violinist from Sam Smith's touring band. Wav files of cello, violin plus Simon Tew's hip hop beats round out a killer collection for producers, songwriters and singers."

https://www.quparts.com/Pop-Strings-UK-p/popstrg1.htm

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#2967789 - 01/08/19 04:29 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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You guys probably posted this already. I receive newsletters from Roland. This one came today:

Introducing the GO:PIANO88 released at CES 2019

https://www.roland.com/us/products/gopia...tm_medium=email




Edited by Sam CA (01/08/19 04:30 PM)
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#2967809 - 01/08/19 06:10 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mike Martin]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Martin
Originally Posted By: BluMunk
Here's the link to the video:

New Privia teaser.


Here you go:


I'm in!
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#2968229 - 01/10/19 04:34 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: PianoManChuck]
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Strymon Announces Volante Magnetic Echo Machine

https://www.strymon.net/products/volante/

My 200A is going to love this love
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#2968276 - 01/10/19 08:34 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Strymon Announces Volante Magnetic Echo Machine

https://www.strymon.net/products/volante/

My 200A is going to love this love


like

My Minimoog and OB Xpander will love it too !

Stereo inputs accepting line level, presets and MIDI control is what I always wanted from vintage sounding stomp box FX.
I miss these sounds since I sold the Binson Echorec, Roland RE-501 and a Korg tape echo and replaced w/ rackmount digital delays.

smile

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#2968383 - 01/11/19 01:24 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mike Martin]
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Looks great, Mike. I'll come by and share (steal) chops from you again ;-)
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#2968387 - 01/11/19 01:40 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Strymon Announces Volante Magnetic Echo Machine

https://www.strymon.net/products/volante/

My 200A is going to love this love


meant to add this earlier

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#2968409 - 01/11/19 04:33 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Dexibell says they are showing three new products at 2019 NAMM.

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#2968427 - 01/11/19 07:32 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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Not to take away from Strymons incredible quality and proper impedence for Dual TS, but Timeline has this algorithm and a few options.
It’s not as souped up as this Pedal but it does far more in terms of variety

Same for Mobius too. Leslie’s, phasers, chorused, pitch shift, vibratos, pattern flanges, etc,etc.
I bought the Deco, Mobius, Timeline and Big Sky.
Keyboard guys only need Mobius and Timelie.
Timeline gets killer Tape Reverbs, etc.

You’ll notice no glitching on Strymon FX when modulating time on delays, or modulstupion fox, and you can alter size and decay with no zippers.
That’s impressive and make for great ducking effects and reverse Algol full wet are from lower the Hell.
Even the looper live from buttons on my K4 is just fantastic.

Don’t let me dust your buzz about the Strymon, but I would have appreciated if someone told me Timeline can do Big Sky, or Mobius can Dual Deco.



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#2968429 - 01/11/19 08:17 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: hardware]
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Originally Posted By: hardware
Not to take away from Strymons incredible quality and proper impedence for Dual TS, but Timeline has this algorithm and a few options.


I hear you, Heywood. I just dig this as it does spring reverb and tape delay in one pedal. Exactly what I was looking for. Similar to the Boss RE-20, but with more choices.
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#2968465 - 01/12/19 08:11 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Kronos SE baby.
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#2968466 - 01/12/19 08:18 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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Where you seeing this, CEB?
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#2968467 - 01/12/19 08:23 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Secret stuff. LOL.
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#2968470 - 01/12/19 08:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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Nah. An advertisement was on on Kapro's Facebook wall. It was removed pretty quickly. The ad said " Kapro EXs272 comes with Korg Kronos SE" but all the other Kronos users can buy it from the Korg Kronos Shop"

I don't know what the SE is. Could be a cheaper shitty plastic Kronos or it could be a normal Kronos in a different color with new Libraries .... Who know. Could actually be new hardware. No idea.

As usual I don't know anything.


Edited by CEB (01/12/19 08:39 AM)
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#2968471 - 01/12/19 08:37 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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Kronos with mini keys. wink
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#2968472 - 01/12/19 08:41 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Kurt. You on the forum and willing to spill the beans?
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#2968473 - 01/12/19 08:51 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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Hope to hell the SE (If there really is an SE) a 76/73 semi-weighted version. Not holding my breath though.

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#2968475 - 01/12/19 09:03 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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Nah. An advertisement was on on Kapro's Facebook wall. It was removed pretty quickly. The ad said " Kapro EXs272 comes with Korg Kronos SE" but all the other Kronos users can buy it from the Korg Kronos Shop"



So much for an NDA, wink I think human error is great
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#2968477 - 01/12/19 09:14 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: GregC]
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The leak only helps to generate preNAMM buzz - if which there has been very little.
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#2968478 - 01/12/19 09:24 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
The leak only helps to generate preNAMM buzz - if which there has been very little.


I noticed. Us Korg followers don't handle a vacuum of silence very well [or its just me].

Plus its sort of boring when there is no real news.
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#2968481 - 01/12/19 10:05 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: hardware]
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Originally Posted By: hardware

... Strymons ... Timeline has this algorithm and a few options.


I want the drum- and the tape-echo variants plus looper,- and because I don´t own any Strymon up to now,- this new toy might be the only one I´ll buy.

Mobious is a interesting box too, no question, but for the time being I still have rackmount analog stereo chorus flangers (and some reverbs/multiFX as well).

I guess the Strymon Volante will cost EUR 499,- @Thoman,- at least cheaper than vintage Roland and Korg echos, chorus and spring reverbs.

A.C.

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#2968483 - 01/12/19 10:24 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Al Coda]
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There’s also that T-Rex replicator which has a certain tone and vibe to it. Although this Strymon looks a lot more useful.

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#2968491 - 01/12/19 10:50 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Best,

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#2968500 - 01/12/19 11:25 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Al Coda]
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Originally Posted By: Al Coda
Originally Posted By: hardware

... Strymons ... Timeline has this algorithm and a few options.


I want the drum- and the tape-echo variants plus looper,- and because I don´t own any Strymon up to now,- this new toy might be the only one I´ll buy.

Mobious is a interesting box too, no question, but for the time being I still have rackmount analog stereo chorus flangers (and some reverbs/multiFX as well).

I guess the Strymon Volante will cost EUR 499,- @Thoman,- at least cheaper than vintage Roland and Korg echos, chorus and spring reverbs.

A.C.


I listened to all of the demos and conclude I might get it just because Strymons are just incredible sounding units for synths.
Guitars sound OK but using SpaceF Router and Bus Mixer your keys become the effect. It’s really surprising how well these work live too.

Notice how I stick them in between the router and mixer, using FireWire Insert Modules.
This means 100% wet reverse loops are really what they say they are.
You play 4 beats ahead and join in the fun, or play above the reverse loops.
Sick shit no doubt.

I might stick in on the dry channel since it’s not really necessary.
Just a rack of FX MIDI Controlled where you send whatever audio you want anywhere in real time.



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#2968534 - 01/12/19 01:50 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: hardware
Not to take away from Strymons incredible quality and proper impedence for Dual TS, but Timeline has this algorithm and a few options.


I hear you, Heywood. I just dig this as it does spring reverb and tape delay in one pedal. Exactly what I was looking for. Similar to the Boss RE-20, but with more choices.


Strymon's earlier pedal El Capistan is also a tape delay w/ spring reverb.
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#2968541 - 01/12/19 02:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Another Korg "leak" - the Minilogue XD

https://www.reddit.com/r/synthesizers/comments/aav9dq/the_korg_minilogue_xd_has_been_leaked/

I believe "XD" is used by kids 18 years and under to express laughter, so...
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#2968545 - 01/12/19 02:59 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: GovernorSilver]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
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Not to take away from Strymons incredible quality and proper impedence for Dual TS, but Timeline has this algorithm and a few options.


I hear you, Heywood. I just dig this as it does spring reverb and tape delay in one pedal. Exactly what I was looking for. Similar to the Boss RE-20, but with more choices.


Strymon's earlier pedal El Capistan is also a tape delay w/ spring reverb.


true, Paolo. However one of the "more choices" I was referring to is stereo inputs, which the El Capistan doesn't have. It is almost half the price though. thu
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#2968549 - 01/12/19 03:50 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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Dexibell says they are showing three new products at 2019 NAMM.


Perhaps its a Dexibell Vivo S7 Pro ?



I like it to have the TP400W action but with all the functionality of the S7 instead of the S9

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#2968552 - 01/12/19 04:17 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: halhertz]
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Originally Posted By: halhertz
Originally Posted By: Radagast
Dexibell says they are showing three new products at 2019 NAMM.


Perhaps its a Dexibell Vivo S7 Pro ?



I like it to have the TP400W action but with all the functionality of the S7 instead of the S9


A Dexibell video on FB says Dexibell is going blue, whatever that means, and has the words “pro stage piano”.


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#2968553 - 01/12/19 04:33 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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A Dexibell video on FB says Dexibell is going blue, whatever that means, and has the words “pro stage piano”.


I think this means that they'll be introducing new keyboards that use the same blue shell as the Vivo S9 as opposed to the greyish shells used by the Vivo S7 and Vivo P series digital pianos.Just speculation on my part. Though this Vivo S7 Pro teaser seems to somewhat confirm this

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#2968587 - 01/12/19 08:24 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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There’s also that T-Rex replicator which has a certain tone and vibe to it. Although this Strymon looks a lot more useful.


Well, not everyone liked the T-Rex Replicator.
Meanwhile, the company achieved the right to bear the "Binson Echorec" name, work(ed) on a replica of the real deal and announced @NAMM 2017 already.

I owned the Binson Echorec PE 603 TU
When I sold it for cheap, I had no chance to get it serviced or repaired anymore.

These were very special sounding machines and not comparable to tape echo/delay.

Anyway,- I´m not interested to get a 1:1 mechanical replica of that machine.
Modern technology is o.k. for me when reliable built,- and it seems Strymon did everything I want and combine w/ 2 different tape echo modes, spring reverb and looper.
For me, that´s 5 machines in one box I can use w/ any mono- or stereo- output single instrument, in any FX loop or as an Aux-FX device.

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#2968660 - 01/13/19 10:33 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Al Coda]
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“Novation... has prepared a special treat for attendees of this year’s NAMM Show – the “Novation Arcade,” set up at the company’s exhibition booth, #10506.”
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Novation announce SL MkIII flagship hardware and software controller. $699.99



https://novationmusic.com/keys/sl-mkiii
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#2968694 - 01/13/19 04:43 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2968695 - 01/13/19 04:48 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: halhertz]
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Dexibell says they are showing three new products at 2019 NAMM.


Perhaps its a Dexibell Vivo S7 Pro ?



I like it to have the TP400W action but with all the functionality of the S7 instead of the S9


Dexibell added a comment to the youtube video detailing more info about the VIVO S7 Pro

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S7 PRO share same technology of actual S7 with several major improvements:
- Better Keyboard: TP 40 Graded Hammer Action Keyboard
- Professional Outputs : 2-XLR balanced + 2-¼” Jack Unbalanced
- 4 parts - 4 pedal inputs
- 8 independent EFX (2 x each part)
- Cosmetics and wooden side panels from S9
- New Human interface derived from S9
- DC-IN with security lock
- DEXIBELL Continuous Sustain Pedal included

That's why it is still called S7 with the addition of PRO

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#2968731 - 01/13/19 11:02 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: hardware]
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Never tried any Styrmon effects with my Keys, should this drum delay be the one to start with?


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#2968734 - 01/14/19 12:23 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Quai34]
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#2968750 - 01/14/19 06:05 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: halhertz]
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At about 00:54 and 1:26, the midrange notes sounded like short looped samples. I hope I’m wrong.

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#2968757 - 01/14/19 06:16 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I'd like to see a new Kronos replacement... with the same design as the Oasys. Nice big screen. laugh
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#2968761 - 01/14/19 06:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Quai34]
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Never tried any Styrmon effects with my Keys, should this drum delay be the one to start with?


At least for all your keys and modules not offering internal FX it makes sense.

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#2968765 - 01/14/19 06:58 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: hardware]
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... Strymons are just incredible sounding units for synths ... using SpaceF Router & Bus Mixer ...


What´s so special w/ the SpaceF mixers in SCOPE,- except they are modular design ?
Are they urgently necessary for outboard FX integration into SCOPE and using AD/DA ?

Originally Posted By: hardware

Notice how I stick them in between the router and mixer, using FireWire Insert Modules.


You mean XITE´s Z-Link bus you use for AD/DA,- no ?

Originally Posted By: hardware

I might stick in on the dry channel since it’s not really necessary.


Yes, I wondered why there´s the "dry channel" at all.
The Strymons offer "true" hardware bypass AFAIK.

Originally Posted By: hardware

Just a rack of FX MIDI Controlled where you send whatever audio you want anywhere in real time.


That´s very flexible,- provided that there´s SCOPE/XITE in the ballpark.

I guess, you and me, we´re the only forumites using it.

But instead using several stompbox-type FX boxes, I´d wish Strymon came up w/ a 1HU rack unit combining at least Mobious, Volante and BigSky, offering dedicated audio I/Os, MIDI trio and USB.

I can dream ...


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#2968768 - 01/14/19 07:08 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Strymon's earlier pedal El Capistan is also a tape delay w/ spring reverb.


true, Paolo. However one of the "more choices" I was referring to is stereo inputs, which the El Capistan doesn't have. It is almost half the price though. thu


Ah fair enough. The couple of times I've heard the El Capistan used live with a synth, it sounded great to me.

I apologize in advance if this hurts anybody's eyes, but I'm a Dreadbox fan - their upcoming FX box appears to have real spring reverb, digital delay, and analog BBD section for chorus/flange:

https://www.dreadbox-fx.com/hypnosis/


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#2968801 - 01/14/19 09:16 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Synthoid]
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I'd like to see a new Kronos replacement... with the same design as the Oasys. Nice big screen. laugh


or better yet, how much more would it cost to have a video out jack? I don't own one, is there a dedicated Vid jack on them now?
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#2968803 - 01/14/19 09:21 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: seanl]
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Someone mentioned Strymon. I've got a Big Sky. What moron in their design dept puts 1/16th white text and drops it on a light blue anodized case. That's supposed to be a foot operated, right?

Love the sound, not AT ALL impressed for the build quality for the price. Every LED light is burnt out (faded out over time) surrounding the upper left rotating knob.

Ok, I did not mean to thread-jack...
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#2968918 - 01/14/19 07:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: seanl]
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#2968925 - 01/14/19 08:13 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mike Martin]
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Here's the link to the video:

New Privia teaser.


Here you go:


This has my radar on alert.
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#2968937 - 01/14/19 09:28 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Jazz+]
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#2968938 - 01/14/19 09:30 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2968940 - 01/14/19 09:31 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2968948 - 01/14/19 10:06 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Edited by GovernorSilver (01/14/19 10:11 PM)
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#2968966 - 01/15/19 04:26 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: GovernorSilver]
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I LOVE that Volca Modular! A little box of West-Coast joy, packed with neat features.
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#2968990 - 01/15/19 07:45 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: GovernorSilver]
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lotta bang for the buck here
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#2968993 - 01/15/19 07:59 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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Originally Posted By: halhertz
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At about 00:54 and 1:26, the midrange notes sounded like short looped samples. I hope I’m wrong.

It's a budget instrument, so I'm not surprised.
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#2969004 - 01/15/19 08:42 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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There's also a CDP-S350:

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/

https://www.gear4music.com/news/article/.../7N0/2019-01-14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPLzQcB5CI4

EDIT -- Sorry, I didn't realize that the YouTube page isn't a video, just a still image! razz

EDIT 2 -- And I was just looking for the manual at the Casio Music site, and there's also a CDP-S150 listed under the manuals search.


Edited by SeaGtGruff (01/15/19 08:54 AM)
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#2969028 - 01/15/19 09:26 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Macsaint777]
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The new CP





https://yamahamusicians.com/yamaha-new-c...5dVHFJVfWRv25Bk

Assuming it has the same CFX and Bosendorfer samples as the Montage/MODX, I may just want to ditch my MODX8 and get a 7 on top of one of these CP’s.
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#2969029 - 01/15/19 09:30 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Macsaint777]
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The Yamaha new looks interesting, kind of like the MP11 with the wooden action. I'm curious what the weight is. I don't see that listed in the specs.

update:
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CP88 features Natural Wood Graded Hammer (NW-GH) and hence an authentic grand piano feel, making it the ideal choice for piano purists. CP73 offers 73 equally weighted keys for keyboarders playing with a larger number of different sounds on stage.


Hmm a 73 key too!


Edited by Toano88 (01/15/19 09:34 AM)
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#2969031 - 01/15/19 09:33 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Toano88]
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It weighs 41 lbs for the 88
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#2969034 - 01/15/19 09:35 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Macsaint777]
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Not bad at all for a wooden action! The Kawai MP-11se is 75lbs!
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#2969038 - 01/15/19 09:46 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Toano88]
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Looks like Yamaha is going after Nord's territory with the 1-to-1 UI on the CP88 and CP73.

This is very interesting to me as Yamaha has also been at the forefront of the upcoming next-gen MIDI spec and with the updatable OS it should be relatively future proof. Also includes a built-in MIDI interface and audio in.


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#2969046 - 01/15/19 10:33 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: tfort]
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#2969055 - 01/15/19 11:16 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: zephonic]
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The new CP

...

https://yamahamusicians.com/yamaha-new-c...5dVHFJVfWRv25Bk

Assuming it has the same CFX and Bosendorfer samples as the Montage/MODX, I may just want to ditch my MODX8 and get a 7 on top of one of these CP’s.


Looking good. Can hardly wait to try the keybed!
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#2969057 - 01/15/19 11:27 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: tfort]
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Looks like Yamaha is going after Nord's territory with the 1-to-1 UI on the CP88 and CP73.


They listened to me and put the knobs and switches from the Reface CP on their new stage piano. grin
Interesting take on pitch and mod, more Nord like for sure than wheels.
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#2969061 - 01/15/19 11:31 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Sam CA]
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Keybed is basically what is on the P515, without escapement, and with triple sensors. It is NOT the same as the CP4.
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#2969066 - 01/15/19 11:35 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Macsaint777]
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That doesn't sound like an improvement but .... I played the 515 side by side with the CP300. The CP300 is lovely.


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#2969068 - 01/15/19 11:43 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: tfort
Looks like Yamaha is going after Nord's territory with the 1-to-1 UI on the CP88 and CP73.


They listened to me and put the knobs and switches from the Reface CP on their new stage piano. grin
Interesting take on pitch and mod, more Nord like for sure than wheels.


I think Yamaha will sell quite a few of these. And the expanding library concept is a big plus. To an extent they're moving into Nord's territory; however, they're still staying away from a drawbar-style interface for the organ tones. But for a stage piano with world-class pianos, some electro-mechanical keys and supporting synth tones, it looks to a very strong contender. Sounds great so far.
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#2969070 - 01/15/19 11:45 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: allan_evett]
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#2969076 - 01/15/19 12:01 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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#2969089 - 01/15/19 12:21 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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See the new dedicated thread for further discussion of Yamaha CP88/CP73, so this thread doesn't get bogged down with what is likely to be the biggest product announcement at NAMM (from this forum's perspective, barring any organ or synth surprises):

http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads...the#Post2969072

It is a bit surprising to see January as a Digital Piano product rollout month -- although I think that was when the original CP-1/CP-5/CP-50 got released.
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#2969093 - 01/15/19 12:23 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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lotta bang for the buck here


Agreed, even without the 3rd party custom oscillators.

Volca Modular looks similarly stunning in bang for the buck - they managed to squeeze a decent reverb into there.
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#2969136 - 01/15/19 03:17 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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#2969138 - 01/15/19 03:19 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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There's also that vendor in England whose name I forget -- I think it starts with a "B"? -- who tends to do by far the most informative videos and tutorials of anyone. I'll look it up once home, if no one posts in the meantime.


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#2969143 - 01/15/19 03:40 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: SeaGtGruff]
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Hey guys, the discussion moved to its own topic for CP-88/CP-73. All questions and follow-up are already resolved there. We need to keep this NAMM discussion free from bloat on a mega-product announcement that already has its own dedicated thread.

http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads...the#Post2969072

I have deleted and moved my earlier comments to try to nip this in the bud.


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#2969214 - 01/16/19 01:00 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Kronos SE is red. There is a new 'Italian' Grand plus the new KApro sound set from Kurt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p_idBuKirk

https://www.korg.com/us/products/synthesizers/kronos2/#se

And no it probably doesn't need another thread. It's red. Just like the platinum one and the black one. Big whoop. I liked the platinum better. Better for low light environments.

" * All specifications other than color, Italian piano, and KApro sounds are identical to the standard model of the KRONOS"


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#2969238 - 01/16/19 05:28 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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" * All specifications other than color, Italian piano, and KApro sounds are identical to the standard model of the KRONOS"

I'm kind of surprised they did not add the transistor organ engine that they developed for the Continental/Grandstage.

I'm glad to see another color on the 61, to help address the stage visibility of the usual black-on-black design.
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#2969246 - 01/16/19 06:17 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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Eh,it's just a limited edition paint job.



"The KRONOS SE includes a standard new Italian piano PCM, based on the Italian sounds featured in the KORG Grandstage. These special edition sounds coincide with the release of KApro’s sound library “KApro Showcase”; featuring more than 100 titles to compose and perform extraordinary music.

In addition to the remarkable new sounds, the KRONOS SE is designed with its signature high impact front panel, in a beautiful red and black finish, perfect for players looking to add a little flare to their keyboard rig."
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#2969262 - 01/16/19 07:20 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Thread is already going for this, but I thought it should get a mention here anyways to keep things together.

Korg Krome EX: https://www.korg.com/us/products/synthesizers/krome_ex/




So far it seems to be a Krome with more sounds added.


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#2969301 - 01/16/19 09:56 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Eh,it's just a limited edition paint job.



"The KRONOS SE includes a standard new Italian piano PCM, based on the Italian sounds featured in the KORG Grandstage."


Does it mean that new Italian Grand is PCM and not SGX-2 based as in the Grandstage? And that colour ... would probably irritate me if I look at it for too long. looks like this year will be Yamaha's year, not Korg's.
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#2969306 - 01/16/19 10:26 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: gg22]
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Does it mean that new Italian Grand is PCM and not SGX-2 based as in the Grandstage? And that colour ... would probably irritate me if I look at it for too long. looks like this year will be Yamaha's year, not Korg's.


In the very short intro video it shows the SGX screen while the person plays the Italian grand. All SGX pianos are sample/PCM-based. You can load any of the Kronos SGX pianos into HD-1, though you lose quite a bit in the process.

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#2969307 - 01/16/19 10:29 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: gg22]
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I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.
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#2969308 - 01/16/19 10:30 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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Daniel Fisher video on the Minilogue xd. I didn't realize it has the FXs from the Prologue. In many ways, it's a poor man's Prologue.



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#2969309 - 01/16/19 10:31 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Toano88]
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I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.


It does look odd. Maybe it's one of those things that looks better in person, don't know.

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#2969311 - 01/16/19 10:48 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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Daniel Fisher video on the Minilogue xd. I didn't realize it has the FXs from the Prologue. In many ways, it's a poor man's Prologue.



Busch.


Impressive. Didn't expect such a huge sounds coming out of this little keyboard.
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#2969312 - 01/16/19 10:51 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Toano88]
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I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.

Reminds me of the ill-fated (and poorly named, IMO) Ensoniq Fizmo.



eek facepalm

Korg chose to go with kind of a Nord red highlight though...can we call it a Norg? idk grin

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#2969315 - 01/16/19 11:02 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Originally Posted By: Toano88
I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.

Reminds me of the ill-fated (and poorly named, IMO) Ensoniq Fizmo.



eek facepalm

Korg chose to go with kind of a Nord red highlight though...can we call it a Norg? idk grin

dB


Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC
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#2969316 - 01/16/19 11:04 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: jimkost2002]
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#2969320 - 01/16/19 11:19 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: jimkost2002]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Originally Posted By: Toano88
I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.

Reminds me of the ill-fated (and poorly named, IMO) Ensoniq Fizmo.



eek facepalm

Korg chose to go with kind of a Nord red highlight though...can we call it a Norg? idk grin

dB


Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC

Fizmos? If so, not surprising. Actually a pretty cool instrument with interesting technology (at the time, especially).

Too bad it was so funny looking and had such an odd name. rolleyes
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#2969342 - 01/16/19 01:38 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Originally Posted By: Toano88
I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.

Reminds me of the ill-fated (and poorly named, IMO) Ensoniq Fizmo.



eek facepalm

Korg chose to go with kind of a Nord red highlight though...can we call it a Norg? idk grin

dB


That was my immediate thought as well. "Those who don't learn are doomed to repeat, yadda yadda" snax

Korg really has a thing for cosmetic repackaging to claim a special edition, don't they?
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#2969344 - 01/16/19 01:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: gg22]
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The SGX-2 engine uses PCM. Just not in the HD-1 voice architecture.

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Originally Posted By: gg22
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Eh,it's just a limited edition paint job.



"The KRONOS SE includes a standard new Italian piano PCM, based on the Italian sounds featured in the KORG Grandstage."


Does it mean that new Italian Grand is PCM and not SGX-2 based as in the Grandstage? And that colour ... would probably irritate me if I look at it for too long. looks like this year will be Yamaha's year, not Korg's.

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#2969351 - 01/16/19 02:39 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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Daniel Fisher video on the Minilogue xd.


putting Daniel Fisher in front of a synth is like putting Joey DeFrancesco in front of a clonewheel. Just makes you need to buy it. cool
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#2969354 - 01/16/19 02:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: jimkost2002]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Fizmos? If so, not surprising. Actually a pretty cool instrument with interesting technology (at the time, especially).


Originally Posted By: jimkost2002

Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC


couldn't sell them when they were new 20 years ago, nobody wanted it. Wonder how the parts/repairs department is holding up?
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#2969437 - 01/17/19 05:02 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: MAJUSCULE]
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Korg really has a thing for cosmetic repackaging to claim a special edition, don't they?


Remember the X50 "Camo Edition?" Looks like someone threw up on it...
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#2969483 - 01/17/19 08:08 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Fizmos? If so, not surprising. Actually a pretty cool instrument with interesting technology (at the time, especially).


Originally Posted By: jimkost2002

Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC


couldn't sell them when they were new 20 years ago, nobody wanted it. Wonder how the parts/repairs department is holding up?

I used to have two Fizmos in my attic. Both gone now for spare parts.
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#2969495 - 01/17/19 08:49 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Fizmos? If so, not surprising. Actually a pretty cool instrument with interesting technology (at the time, especially).


Originally Posted By: jimkost2002

Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC


couldn't sell them when they were new 20 years ago, nobody wanted it. Wonder how the parts/repairs department is holding up?


Perhaps the synth biz is more like running a distillery than a technology company -- plans for high end boutique products have to include 20 years of barrel aging.

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#2969512 - 01/17/19 09:31 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Zalman Stern]
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I have been seriously hoping for years that Casio will finally make a digital piano that I will want to support.

I am NOT going to be able to make it to NAMM this year - no one took me up on my offer of to and from cartage from LAX to Anaheim in exchange for a pass. Your loss.

Back to Casio. The new Yamaha P- 515 is going to give it some SERIOUS competition, at least in the amplified digital piano category. I hope they are up to the challenge.

The P 515 has five or six very good digital piano samples including CFX and Bosendorfer. Not to mention - finally - some very good Rhodes and Wurli samples.

The internal amplification system gets up and SPEAKS. Add a subwoofer to this and the output competes with a grand piano. It may be possible to gig this and not have to bring any more than a small subwoofer - for solo gigs and jazz trio etc. at least.

Price point is 1500 dollars, so at a 10 to 15 percent sale, roughly 1300 - 1350

So I am hoping Casio is up to this.

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#2969529 - 01/17/19 10:52 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: LX88]
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Yamaha's P515 DIGITAL PIANO weighs 48.5 pounds. That's too heavy for me to move around with. My Casio PX360 is 26 pounds and I am looking to get a lighter model with the new casios. A 73 key Casio with an aluminum base, onboard monitors, that weighs ~ 19 pounds would be awesome.
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#2969537 - 01/17/19 11:28 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: LX88]
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The new Yamaha P- 515 is going to give it some SERIOUS competition, at least in the amplified digital piano category.


A friend just recorded this on his P-515. Just going on the video, it sounds to have more warmth then my CP4. Too heavy for most gig schleps but perfect for me at home. Would love to get out of headphone mode in the office and drive my wife nuts transposing lines and voicings to all keys... poke...can you go outside to the studio to do that stuff !! cry



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#2969600 - 01/17/19 03:01 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Jazz+]
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My Casio PX360 is 26 pounds and I am looking to get a lighter model with the new casios. A 73 key Casio with an aluminum base, onboard monitors, that weighs ~ 19 pounds would be awesome.


You might be interested in checking out the CDP-S350, although it’s 88 keys, not 73. You can download the manuals for it from Casio’s web site, although I don’t think it’s been officially unveiled yet— any day now, though!

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/%22/

Looks like no MIDI DIN ports, if that matters to you; and polyphony is a bit low for a digital piano— 64 notes, 32 for certain tones. But it has a goodly number of tones, and responds to MIDI messages for Attack/Release, Cutoff/Resonance, Portamento, etc., so I’m definitely interested in giving it a hard look. smile


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#2969609 - 01/17/19 03:34 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: SeaGtGruff]
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How much do MIDI DIN ports cost to add in? There have been a few budget, light weight, 73 key'd pianos released recently that would have been perfect for a bottom slave board, but alas, no MIDI ports. Surely companies realise the market they miss out on by not including them?
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#2969629 - 01/17/19 04:44 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Stylophone Gen R-8


sounds great. Always wanted a Stylophone but never needed one. Would be cool to have but at $350.00 US dollars I have to pass for now. Bet it will do well.
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#2969630 - 01/17/19 04:45 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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This video gave me headache, I wish I didn't see it.
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#2969632 - 01/17/19 04:47 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: gg22]
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Stylophohe Gen-R8



This video gave me headache, I wish I didn't see it.


try taking a nap, maybe that will help. wink
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At this year's NAMM show, Deskew Technologies will be debuting Version 3 of Gig Performer, their VST/VST3/AU live performance plug-in host for Mac and Windows systems.

At the Anaheim Convention Center, January 24-27, live demonstrations of Gig Performer 3.0 will be presented at Ilio (ACC Hall A, booth #11910) and TASCAM (ACC North Hall #18910). Gig Performer 3 adds a bevy of powerful new capabilities, especially to the program's control features.

Gig Performer 3 supports set lists consisting of songs along with song parts that can be accessed directly from controllers or MIDI pedalboards. Song parts allow rackspaces to be reused. For example, a single rackspace containing an acoustic piano sound can be reused to cover 10 songs needing piano.

Gig Performer 3 adds support for the Chord Pro lead sheet format. This allows Chord Pro documents to be created, edited, and linked to songs in a setlist so a chords-and-lyrics chart can be opened when a song is selected.

Remote access has been enhanced significantly to support songs and parts from your iPad or Android device running Lemur. Bidirectional MIDI support for widgets facilitates the use of MIDI control surfaces.

Version 3 also introduces the ability to synchronize Gig Performer with other applications on a wireless network, using Ableton Link.

Numerous other functions and workflow enhancements are included in Gig Performer 3. Gig Performer 3 will be available on January 24th, 2019 and upgrade pricing will be provided shortly.

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#2969698 - 01/18/19 03:26 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: N4dr0j]
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How much do MIDI DIN ports cost to add in? There have been a few budget, light weight, 73 key'd pianos released recently that would have been perfect for a bottom slave board, but alas, no MIDI ports. Surely companies realise the market they miss out on by not including them?


I don't know about cost, but it seems like keyboards which are aimed at home users rather than gigging performers tend to have USB-MIDI only, so I guess Casio isn't targeting these new CDP models at gigging performers.

It's no big deal to me, because I'm strictly a home user and I usually keep my keyboards connected to my desktop computer via USB anyway, so my computer does all of the MIDI routing and processing that I need.

But I know that some home users won't seriously consider adding a 'board to their setup unless it has MIDI DIN ports so they can directly connect it to other equipment.
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#2969704 - 01/18/19 04:14 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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At this year's NAMM show, Deskew Technologies will be debuting Version 3 of Gig Performer, their VST/VST3/AU live performance plug-in host for Mac and Windows systems.

At the Anaheim Convention Center, January 24-27, live demonstrations of Gig Performer 3.0 will be presented at Ilio (ACC Hall A, booth #11910) and TASCAM (ACC North Hall #18910). Gig Performer 3 adds a bevy of powerful new capabilities, especially to the program's control features.

Gig Performer 3 supports set lists consisting of songs along with song parts that can be accessed directly from controllers or MIDI pedalboards. Song parts allow rackspaces to be reused. For example, a single rackspace containing an acoustic piano sound can be reused to cover 10 songs needing piano.

Gig Performer 3 adds support for the Chord Pro lead sheet format. This allows Chord Pro documents to be created, edited, and linked to songs in a setlist so a chords-and-lyrics chart can be opened when a song is selected.

Remote access has been enhanced significantly to support songs and parts from your iPad or Android device running Lemur. Bidirectional MIDI support for widgets facilitates the use of MIDI control surfaces.

Version 3 also introduces the ability to synchronize Gig Performer with other applications on a wireless network, using Ableton Link.

Numerous other functions and workflow enhancements are included in Gig Performer 3. Gig Performer 3 will be available on January 24th, 2019 and upgrade pricing will be provided shortly.


Be interested to see more on this. I like MainStage but have always been tempted by Gig Performer...
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#2969706 - 01/18/19 04:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: nursers]
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At this stage so close to NAMM, is it unlikely that we'll now hear any new announcements from the "big guys"?
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#2969711 - 01/18/19 05:01 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: N4dr0j]
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Roland is quiet - other than the 88k GoPro. But they’ve been releasing on their special days during the year. 8/08 for example.
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#2969712 - 01/18/19 05:14 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2969713 - 01/18/19 05:17 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2969715 - 01/18/19 05:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I hope they made Gadget more performance-friendly, though I know that's not its focus. The two issues I've posted about before...

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I wish the individual gadgets' presets could be recalled va MIDI Program Change on whichever channel you've assigned them to.
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#2969744 - 01/18/19 07:44 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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I hope they've added ios AU support, and are leaving it as a surprise.

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#2969747 - 01/18/19 07:57 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: SeaGtGruff]
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Originally Posted By: N4dr0j
How much do MIDI DIN ports cost to add in? There have been a few budget, light weight, 73 key'd pianos released recently that would have been perfect for a bottom slave board, but alas, no MIDI ports. Surely companies realise the market they miss out on by not including them?


I don't know about cost, but it seems like keyboards which are aimed at home users rather than gigging performers tend to have USB-MIDI only, so I guess Casio isn't targeting these new CDP models at gigging performers.

It's no big deal to me, because I'm strictly a home user and I usually keep my keyboards connected to my desktop computer via USB anyway, so my computer does all of the MIDI routing and processing that I need.

But I know that some home users won't seriously consider adding a 'board to their setup unless it has MIDI DIN ports so they can directly connect it to other equipment.

Pet peeve of mine. I bought a USB mid DIN adaptor for this situation. I posted a thread about this - Scott chimed in and give several other options which I was not aware of,
UBS Midi DIN Converters
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#2969758 - 01/18/19 08:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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At this year's NAMM show, Deskew Technologies will be debuting Version 3 of Gig Performer, their VST/VST3/AU live performance plug-in host for Mac and Windows systems.


This has me very excited. I love GigPerformer and how it has evolved to it's current state.

The new functionality listed for V3 makes it that much better IMHO.
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#2969831 - 01/18/19 12:34 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: EscapeRocks]
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2 new ones from Dexibell



Edited by SynMike (01/18/19 12:35 PM)
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#2969834 - 01/18/19 12:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: SynMike]
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2 new ones from Dexibell



2 products besides the already announced S7 Pro. According to Piano Man Chuck, Dexibell put out some teaser about having a “Grand” time with them at NAMM.

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#2969908 - 01/18/19 05:06 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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#2969912 - 01/18/19 05:15 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Force from Akai Pro for the Ableton folks



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#2970103 - 01/19/19 06:12 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: SeaGtGruff]
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
My Casio PX360 is 26 pounds and I am looking to get a lighter model with the new casios. A 73 key Casio with an aluminum base, onboard monitors, that weighs ~ 19 pounds would be awesome.


You might be interested in checking out the CDP-S350, although it’s 88 keys, not 73. You can download the manuals for it from Casio’s web site, although I don’t think it’s been officially unveiled yet— any day now, though!

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/%22/

Looks like no MIDI DIN ports, if that matters to you; and polyphony is a bit low for a digital piano— 64 notes, 32 for certain tones. But it has a goodly number of tones, and responds to MIDI messages for Attack/Release, Cutoff/Resonance, Portamento, etc., so I’m definitely interested in giving it a hard look. smile


CDP-S350 video from Jeremy See showed up in my news feed. Not terrible.

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#2970182 - 01/20/19 07:20 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mighty Motif Max]
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Originally Posted By: SeaGtGruff
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My Casio PX360 is 26 pounds and I am looking to get a lighter model with the new casios. A 73 key Casio with an aluminum base, onboard monitors, that weighs ~ 19 pounds would be awesome.


You might be interested in checking out the CDP-S350, although it’s 88 keys, not 73. You can download the manuals for it from Casio’s web site, although I don’t think it’s been officially unveiled yet— any day now, though!

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/%22/

Looks like no MIDI DIN ports, if that matters to you; and polyphony is a bit low for a digital piano— 64 notes, 32 for certain tones. But it has a goodly number of tones, and responds to MIDI messages for Attack/Release, Cutoff/Resonance, Portamento, etc., so I’m definitely interested in giving it a hard look. smile


CDP-S350 video from Jeremy See showed up in my news feed. Not terrible.



Not sounding great in this video, I’m guessing Camera mic capturing the slim model’s onboard speakers. But very light at 24lbs (without batteries). I assume it’s the same Casio action on PX-160 or no?

USB only no 5pin midi.

Two pedal jacks, not sure how useful:
DAMPER/ASSIGNABLE jack:
Standard jack (Sustain, Sostenuto, Soft, Rhythmus)
PEDAL-UNIT jack:
Proprietary jack (Sustain, Sostenuto, Soft)

But they did include a pitch bend wheel!

Could be nice small and light weight controller.
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#2970199 - 01/20/19 09:11 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I assume it’s the same Casio action on PX-160 or no?

No, a new action.
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#2970201 - 01/20/19 09:15 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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I assume it’s the same Casio action on PX-160 or no?

No, a new action.


Ah that’s too bad. But I guess you can’t get this slim and light with the other.
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#2970281 - 01/20/19 01:40 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Well that CDP-S350 sounds, uhm, limited, or cheap, both actually!

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#2970285 - 01/20/19 02:04 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: Mighty Motif Max
Originally Posted By: SeaGtGruff


You might be interested in checking out the CDP-S350, although it’s 88 keys, not 73. You can download the manuals for it from Casio’s web site, although I don’t think it’s been officially unveiled yet— any day now, though!

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/%22/

Looks like no MIDI DIN ports, if that matters to you; and polyphony is a bit low for a digital piano— 64 notes, 32 for certain tones. But it has a goodly number of tones, and responds to MIDI messages for Attack/Release, Cutoff/Resonance, Portamento, etc., so I’m definitely interested in giving it a hard look. smile


CDP-S350 video from Jeremy See showed up in my news feed. Not terrible.



Not sounding great in this video, I’m guessing Camera mic capturing the slim model’s onboard speakers. But very light at 24lbs (without batteries). I assume it’s the same Casio action on PX-160 or no?

USB only no 5pin midi.

Two pedal jacks, not sure how useful:
DAMPER/ASSIGNABLE jack:
Standard jack (Sustain, Sostenuto, Soft, Rhythmus)
PEDAL-UNIT jack:
Proprietary jack (Sustain, Sostenuto, Soft)

But they did include a pitch bend wheel!

Could be nice small and light weight controller.


Originally Posted By: Theo Verelst
Well that CDP-S350 sounds, uhm, limited, or cheap, both actually!

TV


Pretty sure that is a direct signal; notice no room noise, key thumping, breathing, or chair squeaking. His other videos seem to be direct to computer as well.

Not the greatest for sure, but it could be worse. Reminds me of some of their older stage pianos that I tried years ago. Not natural really.


Edited by Mighty Motif Max (01/20/19 02:07 PM)
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#2970316 - 01/20/19 05:10 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Korg Kross SE. Found it accidentally when looking at the downloads section on Korg USA.

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Kross SE Downloads Section (Korg USA): https://www.korg.com/us/support/download/product/1/442/



EDIT: Looks like it hit the web four days ago. No mention here though.

https://www.gearnews.com/namm-2019-korg-dreams-up-some-kronos-krome-and-kross-specials/

https://www.musicradar.com/news/namm-201...-se-workstation

Pre-order price on Gear4Music is $778: https://www.gear4music.com/us/en/Keyboards-and-Pianos/Korg-Kross-61-SE-Neon-Blue/2U6Q

Man are those ugly IMO.




Edit 2: Korg UK's page under Kross 2: https://www.korg.com/uk/products/synthesizers/kross2/#se



Edit 3: J. Dan - perfect for a "reunion" of the Atari Twins (I think that was the name?).

Edit 4: Looks like just more sounds added (notice it says "pre-installed" rather than "expanded" or the like. Maybe they will have them for sale/available to Kross 2 owners.

New sounds list: https://cdn.korg.com/us/support/download...cation%2Fpdf%3B


Edited by Mighty Motif Max (01/20/19 05:21 PM)
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#2970319 - 01/20/19 05:24 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mighty Motif Max]
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#2970323 - 01/20/19 05:30 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mighty Motif Max]
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Man are those ugly IMO.

I'm for anything that gets rid of the stupid black controls on a black background that so many boards have used. Not stage-light friendly.
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#2970334 - 01/20/19 07:13 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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Man are those ugly IMO.

I'm for anything that gets rid of the stupid black controls on a black background that so many boards have used. Not stage-light friendly.


Dunno which stages you mean.
At least for concert touring, light designers prefered black or white gear on stage always,- and for my own purpose as a performer, I always had dimmable small goosneck lamps everywhere mounted/ velcroed on the keyboards.

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#2970386 - 01/21/19 06:37 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Al Coda]
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Dunno which stages you mean.
At least for concert touring...

Many of us periodically find ourselves playing in sub-optimal lighting conditions.

Originally Posted By: Al Coda
and for my own purpose as a performer, I always had dimmable small goosneck lamps everywhere mounted/ velcroed on the keyboards.

Nicer not to have to bother with them.
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#2970434 - 01/21/19 09:13 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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#2970442 - 01/21/19 09:28 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: zephonic]
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#2970447 - 01/21/19 09:36 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Al Coda]
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Originally Posted By: Mighty Motif Max
Man are those ugly IMO.

I'm for anything that gets rid of the stupid black controls on a black background that so many boards have used. Not stage-light friendly.


Dunno which stages you mean.
At least for concert touring, light designers prefered black or white gear on stage always,- and for my own purpose as a performer, I always had dimmable small goosneck lamps everywhere mounted/ velcroed on the keyboards.

A.C.


I carried small lights with me over the years and had a dedicated carrying case for them with extra bulbs in a hard case so they wouldn't get crushed.

Completely dark night clubs got old when I couldn't even see my instrument unless there was a strobe light flashing somewhere. I played one song after the other to keep the music coming and the crowd under control. Lighting made gigs doable in dark clubs. Small stage lights are a small investment compared to what the rest of our gear costs.


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#2970578 - 01/21/19 06:11 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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#2970604 - 01/21/19 08:21 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Those new Kross keyboards would fit right in on the Katie Perry California Girls video.

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#2970615 - 01/21/19 11:23 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: delmar]
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The Nord Piano Monitor look great!
(sound pretty good too, through my headphones! j/k)

Seriously though, I'm loving that piano sound in the demo vid - can anyone tell which instrument it is?

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#2970644 - 01/22/19 05:58 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Kawai James]
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" cloud-based sample management software from Loopmasters that enables you to work with both samples that you buy and those that you upload, is set to be updated once again. Version 4 will be landing in the first quarter of 2019, with comprehensive loop editing options on the agenda. The Loop Editor is billed as “a sample-slicing and pattern workbench”. You can use it to adjust the arrangement, timing and levels of individual sample slices, and once you’re happy with your edits, you can audition any other sample in your library and have it conform to the same pattern."
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#2970653 - 01/22/19 06:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Acid Drive for Keyboards




With peel and stick labels no less.

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#2970656 - 01/22/19 06:59 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Synthoid]
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And pretty crappy demo video. How would that video entice me to buy the product?
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#2970662 - 01/22/19 07:25 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Rusty Mike]
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And pretty crappy demo video. How would that video entice me to buy the product?


The basic requirement is the inability playing a keyboard or any instrument at all plus suffering from some hearing problems.

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#2970669 - 01/22/19 07:36 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Synthoid]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd

Acid Drive for Keyboards




With peel and stick labels no less.

facepalm



Those abbreviations on the device are open to interpretation;

DRV= is a popular 'luxury ' RV
https://www.exploreusa.com/product-drv-luxury-suites

FLT= could be flirt. Or flat. or float. Flirt takes it.

RES= resist ? resuscitate ? resound ? Resuscitate wins.

VOL= voluptuous ? voluminous ? volunteer ? Voltar ?
Tough call. I say voluptuous.

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#2970673 - 01/22/19 07:46 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: GregC]
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Resuscitate wins.


That would require a Ventilator.

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#2970674 - 01/22/19 07:54 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Synthoid]
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Resuscitate wins.


That would require a Ventilator.





That product name didn't fit for me. Was the inventor Mr Vent ? or Mr Ventil ?

or was the device name a typo for "Yentilator " ?
Possible copyright problem with that name.

I can see where " Resuscitator " for a name could cause some marketing doubt.
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#2970676 - 01/22/19 07:58 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: GregC]
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#2970677 - 01/22/19 07:59 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Jinkings]
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Built in case and audio interface!

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#2970678 - 01/22/19 08:00 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: GregC]
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was the device name a typo for "Yentilator " ?


Yes. Apparently invented by a famous actress...

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#2970694 - 01/22/19 09:42 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Jinkings]
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Built in case and audio interface!


Heavy ?

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#2970695 - 01/22/19 09:45 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Jinkings]
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Built in case and audio interface!


Now it depends on the build quality, tech-specs ( dual- or triple sensor ?) and playability of the action.
It´s a weighted action w/ aftertouch ...

And it has a flat top which I´d like to put my Kurz PC361 on top.

But the AKAI MPK Road 88 is also 62.1 lbs/ 28.3 kilos !

I downloaded the userguide and haven´t found any description how to teach the machine different MIDI CCs for 2 connected expression pedals.

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#2970698 - 01/22/19 09:56 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Al Coda]
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Spitfire Audio's London Contemporary Orchestra Textures will be released on the opening day of NAMM, this Thursday:



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#2970700 - 01/22/19 10:06 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I don't know about you, but so far I am not feeling any excitement for anything new at NAMM from what I've seen or heard so far. And nothing that will raise the bar from what I already have.

The new Yamaha CP's offer some new things in this category, but I am definitely not feeling anything that is next generation out of staples like Nord, Korg, Roland, Kurzweil, no new must have clonewheel, plug ins or anything that cause me to agonize over my wallet.

I know there is still time before NAMM, but I'm either feeling underwhelmed or very well stocked for the future.
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#2970704 - 01/22/19 10:13 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: jeffinpghpa]
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I don't know about you, but so far I am not feeling any excitement for anything new at NAMM from what I've seen or heard so far. And nothing that will raise the bar from what I already have.

The new Yamaha CP's offer some new things in this category, but I am definitely not feeling anything that is next generation out of staples like Nord, Korg, Roland, Kurzweil, no new must have clonewheel, plug ins or anything that cause me to agonize over my wallet.

I know there is still time before NAMM, but I'm either feeling underwhelmed or very well stocked for the future.


I’m interested in seeing what Synclavier has in store. Their website hinted that there was something big coming besides their iOS apps and the Big Knob. It may be too expensive or it might be the answer to the Kronos. Dexibell has two unannounced products coming. And the new Casio Previa might be amazing. Roland? Yawn. Yamaha? Yawn. Kurzweil? Yawn. Studiologic? Yawn. Korg? Yawn.


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#2970707 - 01/22/19 10:37 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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Ideally, I think it's best to be excited by new technology while also being happy with what you have. It's a tough balance to achieve, I know; but that's what I strive for anyway.

Oh, and by the way, the doors to NAMM will open the day after tomorrow. The show has yet to begin.

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#2970708 - 01/22/19 10:42 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I'm not so sure there will be a new Casio Privia. The video teaser was for the new slim battery powered CDP-S100
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#2970713 - 01/22/19 11:12 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: jeffinpghpa]
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Originally Posted By: jeffinpghpa
I don't know about you, but so far I am not feeling any excitement for anything new at NAMM from what I've seen or heard so far. And nothing that will raise the bar from what I already have.

The new Yamaha CP's offer some new things in this category, but I am definitely not feeling anything that is next generation out of staples like Nord, Korg, Roland, Kurzweil, no new must have clonewheel, plug ins or anything that cause me to agonize over my wallet.

I know there is still time before NAMM, but I'm either feeling underwhelmed or very well stocked for the future.


I know what you are saying. I think we have to wait until Thurs/Friday to determine if its
ho-hum or whatever.

Even so, if one is not finding much at NAMM that is interesting, take a a larger view; we get a sense of what certain cos are really focusing on.

For example, I am a Korg/Roland watcher.

What they present as new is an indicator of what their priorities are. How they spend their internal money and resources for a year in prep of 2019, is as important as a product you might highly interested in.
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#2970716 - 01/22/19 11:24 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Jazz+]
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I'm not so sure there will be a new Casio Privia. The video teaser was for the new slim battery powered CDP-S100

Reports on another site said there will also be new Privias.
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#2970719 - 01/22/19 11:26 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Jazz+]
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I'm not so sure there will be a new Casio Privia. The video teaser was for the new slim battery powered CDP-S100
No, it was not.
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#2970721 - 01/22/19 11:27 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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Mike Martin has already eluded to the Privias. Just check out his latest avatar here. The new slim CDP’s have already leaked. The manuals are available on the US site.
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#2970723 - 01/22/19 11:38 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Al Coda]
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But the AKAI MPK Road 88 is also 62.1 lbs/ 28.3 kilos !

A.C.


Yes, but remember, it is it's own hard case as well .

My FA-08 in its Gator Slim line hard case weighed 65lbs.
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#2970736 - 01/22/19 01:09 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Radial KL-8 is now shipping:

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#2970738 - 01/22/19 01:37 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: delmar]
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Those new Kross keyboards would fit right in on the Katie Perry California Girls video.


OR...the perfect digital compliment to this analog synth:


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#2970739 - 01/22/19 01:45 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Ideally, I think it's best to be excited by new technology while also being happy with what you have. It's a tough balance to achieve, I know; but that's what I strive for anyway.

Oh, and by the way, the doors to NAMM will open the day after tomorrow. The show has yet to begin.

Best,

Geoff



Definitely. I just spent a good chunk of savings on a brand new Nord Stage 3 last Summer, and I'm still getting acquainted with it - I haven't used the synth section to its fullest potential yet. I'm generally good gear-wise at the moment. I just need more time to use it!

But NAMM will be a fun time to catch up with friends, network with folks and geek out. A lot of my friends are into the whole Comic-Con/Anime convention scene, which I have absolutely no interest in, but I kind of envy how their crowd comes together for huge events, so I see NAMM as my own opportunity to "Con" (minus the cosplay, of course :)).

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#2970741 - 01/22/19 01:51 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: elsongs]
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Orchestral Tools held an event in LA today with a number of major announcements. None of the products are available yet. Here are the highlights:

Orchestral Tools has created a free Orchestral Tools Sample Player, in conjunction with Axel Hartmann. Features include Auto Volume Scaling to enable legato transition and release samples to blend better, High Res Resampler, Mic Position Merging, Core Implemented Legato, and Advanced Articulation Management. Libraries will continue to be available in Kontakt format as well.

The new sample player will debut with the release of a free instrument called "Layers: Studio Ensembles," using small ensembles structured in layers of different kinds, such as mixed timbres and chords.

Customers will also have a wider choice in pricing structure with the availability of bundle pricing and à la carte pricing for individual mic positions, instruments, and articulations.

In addition, Orchestral Tools announced Junkie XL Brass to be developed with composer Tom Holkenborg, who promises a larger than life sound. The company also announced LA Sessions: Songwriter Instruments, a collection of pop instruments recorded at United Recording, in Studio B. The instruments include Studio Strings, Electric Guitar, Gospel Choir, Acoustic Guitar, Drum Set, Rhodes, Wurlitzer, and Electric Bass.

The event was live streamed here:



Junkie XL Brass:



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#2970745 - 01/22/19 02:14 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2970761 - 01/22/19 03:37 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Eventide releases an old classic in software form:



Normally priced at $129, Instant Phaser mkII is currently on introductory discount until February 28 at $37.

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#2970763 - 01/22/19 03:46 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Instant Phaser mkIIis currently on introductory discount until February 28 at $37.


plus they are offering a free, 30 day, fully functional demo.
Requires Pace's iLok License manager application frown
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#2970790 - 01/22/19 05:03 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Jazz+]
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I'm not so sure there will be a new Casio Privia. The video teaser was for the new slim battery powered CDP-S100


The video I saw had a closeup with the word Privia.

Here it is:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi53b4in3Fk


Edited by Radagast (01/22/19 05:05 PM)

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#2970792 - 01/22/19 05:11 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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video has been up for 2 weeks now. Here is the caption from Casio Music UK
"Stay finely tuned on our YOUTUBE channel as Casio Music UK will shortly have something revolutionary to present for our Portable Privia range..."
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#2970796 - 01/22/19 05:22 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Does anyone know if Crumar will be there? I don't see their name in the directory...maybe sharing booth?

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#2970798 - 01/22/19 05:26 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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Originally Posted By: Radagast
Originally Posted By: Jazz+
I'm not so sure there will be a new Casio Privia. The video teaser was for the new slim battery powered CDP-S100


The video I saw had a closeup with the word Privia.

Here it is:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi53b4in3Fk



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#2970800 - 01/22/19 05:30 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: zxcvbnm098]
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And ditto for Motion Sound? I was hoping to check out their new amp.

And another new amp has popped up on their site. KP-610D. I think they have some typos on the URL and spec, but the link is http://www.msamps.com/copy-of-kp-500s


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#2970809 - 01/22/19 06:19 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: zxcvbnm098]
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Does anyone know if Crumar will be there? I don't see their name in the directory...maybe sharing booth?


fairly certain dB will have a Crumar Seven there
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#2970813 - 01/22/19 06:56 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Joe Muscara]
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I'm not so sure there will be a new Casio Privia. The video teaser was for the new slim battery powered CDP-S100


Definitely Privia.
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#2970821 - 01/22/19 07:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mike Martin]
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I'm not so sure there will be a new Casio Privia. The video teaser was for the new slim battery powered CDP-S100


Definitely Privia.


Tongue-in-cheek comment here...


Get inspiration from the Yamaha YS200?



Biggest volume knob in history says the internet... laugh
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#2970822 - 01/22/19 07:45 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: EscapeRocks]
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But the AKAI MPK Road 88 is also 62.1 lbs/ 28.3 kilos !

A.C.


Yes, but remember, it is it's own hard case as well .

My FA-08 in its Gator Slim line hard case weighed 65lbs.


Yah, really, 62.1 lbs including case is great. My Motif XF8 plus hard shell Yamaha case makes around 100 lbs. Ugh. But it's what I use everywhere. Sometime a manufacturer should quit adding bricks. 40-lb or under 88-key Motif-type keyboard? That would be one upgrade that might tempt me. Not for a long time I'd guess. Maybe once carbon fiber tech gets cheaper? laugh
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#2970840 - 01/22/19 10:00 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mighty Motif Max]
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And a Yamaha Reface DX external Midi direct access parameters controller:
https://youtu.be/A2KZK6242ao

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#2970860 - 01/23/19 04:07 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: keyboardologist]
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“Akai’s MPK Road 88 is the gig-ready MIDI controller for pro players”

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#2970867 - 01/23/19 04:33 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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“Akai’s MPK Road 88 is the gig-ready MIDI controller for pro players”

Check out the wobble starting at about 1:58... looks like an x-stand disaster in the making...
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#2970875 - 01/23/19 05:26 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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#2970876 - 01/23/19 05:27 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2970896 - 01/23/19 06:31 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: keyboardologist]
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And a Yamaha Reface DX external Midi direct access parameters controller:
https://youtu.be/A2KZK6242ao


anyone know what the equipment to the left of the reface is? I also posted the question on youtube, if I get a reply I'll post here.
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#2970903 - 01/23/19 07:30 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Rod S]
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And a Yamaha Reface DX external Midi direct access parameters controller:
https://youtu.be/A2KZK6242ao


anyone know what the equipment to the left of the reface is? I also posted the question on youtube, if I get a reply I'll post here.


Looks like a Line 6 Helix, I think. All the rage with guitar players currently.
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#2970907 - 01/23/19 07:47 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: MAJUSCULE]
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Looks like a Line 6 Helix, I think. All the rage with guitar players currently.


Thanks, Eric. I think you're right. I saw the glowing light and thought "Superknob" and concluded it was a yamaha product as well. Looking again, it doesn't look at all like the superknob... LOL



Had heard about it. I think they had recently a SOS review on HX Stomp which I thought is was interesting.
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#2970928 - 01/23/19 09:07 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: zxcvbnm098]
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Does anyone know if Crumar will be there? I don't see their name in the directory...maybe sharing booth?


Cloud Microphones - Booth 9510

dB will be there with a Seven, Gemini, and Mojo61
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#2970931 - 01/23/19 09:34 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Brad Kaenel]
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#2970943 - 01/23/19 10:09 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: GregC]
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My take: A ventilator is a device that moves air in order to ventilate. A leslie is a device that rotates like a fan and also moves air, though it's primary purpose is to move sound. The movement of air by the motion of the Leslie does in fact act as a form of ventilation, and is analogous to the movement of air by a hospital "ventilator", which I happen to be very familiar with. So to call something that simulates a form of ventilation as "Ventilator" makes sense to me. I think.
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Resuscitate wins.


That would require a Ventilator.





That product name didn't fit for me. Was the inventor Mr Vent ? or Mr Ventil ?

or was the device name a typo for "Yentilator " ?
Possible copyright problem with that name.

I can see where " Resuscitator " for a name could cause some marketing doubt.
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#2970949 - 01/23/19 10:19 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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I’m interested in seeing what Synclavier has in store. Their website hinted that there was something big coming besides their iOS apps and the Big Knob. It may be too expensive or it might be the answer to the Kronos. Dexibell has two unannounced products coming. And the new Casio Previa might be amazing. Roland? Yawn. Yamaha? Yawn. Kurzweil? Yawn. Studiologic? Yawn. Korg? Yawn.


Apparently there is nothing new from Synclavier, other than the new iOS apps that are already available. Other than the Dexibell S7 Pro, their new stuff looks to be for the home market. I was hoping for a 2 manual organ.


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#2970962 - 01/23/19 10:55 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Roland FP-10

“88-note weighted-action keyboard, a compact, if slightly chunky design, and Roland’s SuperNATURAL piano sound. Other sounds are onboard, too, such as organs, strings and the intriguing ‘jazz scat’, while there’s a built-in metronome. Bluetooth midi, speakers onboard.”


I thought it's going to be my next MIDI controller until a saw "no MIDi jacks". It's very similar to the Korg D1 (weight and price), although Korg has proper MIDI jacks.
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#2970974 - 01/23/19 11:24 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: gg22]
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and the intriguing ‘jazz scat’?

smh
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#2970977 - 01/23/19 11:28 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Rustar]
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My take: A ventilator is a device that moves air in order to ventilate.

The slats on the side of a leslie are commonly called vents.
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#2970983 - 01/23/19 11:44 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: jeffinpghpa]
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and the intriguing ‘jazz scat’?

smh


Fun for the kids though.
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#2971040 - 01/23/19 02:07 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: jeffinpghpa]
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and the intriguing ‘jazz scat’?


Keep the dream alive, Roland. Your eternal enthusiasm, unbridled by observable reality, is an inspiration to us all.

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#2971044 - 01/23/19 02:23 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Josh Paxton]
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and the intriguing ‘jazz scat’?


Keep the dream alive, Roland. Your eternal enthusiasm, unbridled by observable reality, is an inspiration to us all.

I'm sure there's someone at Roland still fighting for the D-Beam.
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#2971045 - 01/23/19 02:23 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Josh Paxton]
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#2971052 - 01/23/19 02:48 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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and the intriguing ‘jazz scat’?


Keep the dream alive, Roland. Your eternal enthusiasm, unbridled by observable reality, is an inspiration to us all.

I'm sure there's someone at Roland still fighting for the D-Beam.


Ahh the Roland D-Beam - the theramin of synthesizer keyboard controls!
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#2971059 - 01/23/19 03:10 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: MotiDave]
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I once broke out into a jazz scat solo on my Roland VR-760 just to screw with my bandmates.

It was on April Fools Day and there were only about 5 people left for the 3rd set.

I’m very proud of finding a use for the Roland jazz scat patch live!
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#2971063 - 01/23/19 03:25 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: jeffinpghpa]
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A piano teacher once told me a story: he was playing a gig as a dep for a jazz quartet. During their warm up set when it was quiet he messed around with the Roland scat sound for a laugh. The band members seemed to like it. Right before they were due to play their next, main set, a regular at the jazz club came up to him and said "I don't like your voices."

He assumed the guy meant "voicings" (as in chord voicings) and started to panic, thinking his style wasn't gelling with the rest of the band, and they were just being too polite to say anything.

He pondered on it for half the set and self-consciously stumbled along trying to phrase his chords differently, until he realised the guy was talking about the Roland scat voices. He relaxed after that and went back to playing how he wanted. Never used the scat voices live again.


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#2971067 - 01/23/19 03:55 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: N4dr0j]
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I have a sentimental spot for the scat vocal samples. A few years after Kurzweil released the Take 6 library, I did an “a capella” jingle with those vocal samples on a K2500 and 1 singer who blended perfectly. The client used it for 10+ years.

I wouldn’t do this today.

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#2971082 - 01/23/19 05:49 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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Well, then that makes it a vented ventilator.
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My take: A ventilator is a device that moves air in order to ventilate.

The slats on the side of a leslie are commonly called vents.
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#2971087 - 01/23/19 06:01 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Rustar]
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Gibson is bringing back real Les Paul Juniors.
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#2971094 - 01/23/19 06:37 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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Do the new products all get announced tomorrow?
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#2971099 - 01/23/19 06:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Jazz+]
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Not sure. I don't know if Gibson is even going to California NAMM.

https://youtu.be/BfrS1nLJWvs
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#2971102 - 01/23/19 06:54 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Jazz+]
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Looks like the first photos of the UB-XA are out in time for NAMM ...

https://www.gearnews.com/behringer-ub-xa-first-photos-of-their-completed-oberheim-clone/



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#2971107 - 01/23/19 07:17 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Jazz+]
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Do the new products all get announced tomorrow?

There's no law, but yes, almost certainly, anything a company intends to announce at NAMM is announced and shown from the first day. Companies pay a lot to exhibit there, they'll want to get as much exposure for their new products as possible.
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#2971111 - 01/23/19 07:28 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: JerryA]
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Originally Posted By: JerryA
Looks like the first photos of the UB-XA are out in time for NAMM ...

https://www.gearnews.com/behringer-ub-xa-first-photos-of-their-completed-oberheim-clone/




Wow...for lack of a better phrase, "That looks cool!"
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#2971121 - 01/23/19 08:10 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Zeger]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Zeger
I have a sentimental spot for the scat vocal samples. A few years after Kurzweil released the Take 6 library, I did an “a capella” jingle with those vocal samples on a K2500 and 1 singer who blended perfectly. The client used it for 10+ years.


That’s so funny, me too! But that commercial didn’t run as long, though.
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#2971125 - 01/23/19 08:31 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: zephonic]
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Behringer pricing:

Prices were given as $299 for MS-101, and RD-808, $499 for Odyssey and $599 for VC340 and they should all be released in March with 3-year warranties.

I wonder if they'll sell any of those 808s?

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#2971129 - 01/23/19 08:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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Watch me own nothing but Behringer keyboards by 2022.
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#2971151 - 01/24/19 12:48 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: MAJUSCULE]
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Press release from Casio about the two new Privia models, although the links don't work yet-- but perhaps will be working by the time NAMM officially starts at 10AM PST:

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases...-300783310.html
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#2971155 - 01/24/19 02:52 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: JerryA]
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Originally Posted By: JerryA
Looks like the first photos of the UB-XA are out in time for NAMM ...

https://www.gearnews.com/behringer-ub-xa-first-photos-of-their-completed-oberheim-clone/




Jerry

Thanks for Posting the photos and the link. I was not aware that Behringer was going to make an OBXa model instead of the original OBX. During the seventies, I owned both of those syths but not at the same time. It broke my heart when I HAD to sell the OBXa. I wasn't playing music to make up for the investment and the IRS came calling looking for tax money they said I owed them.

I was happy to hear that the HW design is finished and the unit was shipped off to have the Firmware done. Progress. I wonder what it will cost? No target price yet.


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#2971156 - 01/24/19 03:01 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: MAJUSCULE]
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Watch me own nothing but Behringer keyboards by 2022.


Possibly we all will and the big 5 as well as some smaller ones will belong to "Music Group" then ! laugh

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#2971167 - 01/24/19 05:36 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Al Coda]
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Steinberg does an NI Komplete type bundle.



"Absolute 4, which they describe as an impressive collection of standalone or plug-in instruments for VST, AU, and AAX hosts."

"Absolute 4 is a celebration of the best synthesizers and workstations that Steinberg has to offer, unleashing infinite creative possibilities with 10 state-of-the-art instruments alongside thousands of presets and samples. Spanning more than 100 GB of first-class sounds, Absolute 4 lays the foundation for some of the finest software instruments available today. With HALion 6, Absolute includes an extremely powerful sampling and sound creation instrument hailed by discerning sound designers and producers. At its side stand HALion Sonic 3, the brand-new Groove Agent 5 virtual drummer, The Grand 3 with its many beautifully crafted piano emulations, and the granular synthesizer, Padshop Pro 2, as well as the classic virtual analog synthesizer, Retrologue 2. And the list just goes on: Prime Cuts and Rock Essentials Style expansion sets for Groove Agent, Granular Guitars for Padshop Pro, Dark Planet, Hypnotic Dance, Triebwerk and more are readily available to add even more content to the massive arsenal of sounds.

Key features

• More than 100 GB of sounds and virtual instruments
• NEW! Groove Agent 5: The very best in electronic and acoustic drums
• NEW! Granular Guitars expansion for Padshop Pro
• NEW! Prime Cuts expansion for Groove Agent
• NEW! Rock Essentials Style Expansion for Groove Agent
• NEW! AAX support for all plug-ins
• NEW! HiDPI support for all plug-ins
• HALion 6: Ground-breaking virtual sampling and sound design system
• Build your own instruments with the Macro Page Designer in HALion
• High-end synthesizers the likes of Retrologue 2 and Padshop Pro"

499 Euros

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#2971184 - 01/24/19 06:39 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I'm just happy that after 8 pages of speculation, NAMM has actually finally started, so we can actually start getting real reports instead of web announcements and youtube videos.
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#2971201 - 01/24/19 07:15 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: J. Dan]
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I shoulda finished my OBXa refurb, I wonder what the clone will do to the real thing's used prices? If I keep it another 10-20 years, maybe it'll pay for a few days in the nursing home! smile

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#2971205 - 01/24/19 07:25 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Reezekeys]
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Moog is only going to have a private meeting room at NAMM. mad

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#2971222 - 01/24/19 08:08 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Marzzz]
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Moog is only going to have a private meeting room at NAMM. mad


This is the trend at both CES and NAMM these days for many companies. Trade show costs are through the roof, and many are questioning the ROI of a booth.

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#2971225 - 01/24/19 08:18 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: zxcvbnm098]
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Omnisphere 2.6

Major Arpeggiator Update
Omnisphere’s renowned Arpeggiator has been greatly enhanced with all new creative tools, a brand new preset library and much more. The musical possibilities are vastly expanded, making it one of the most flexible arpeggiators ever, while still being fun to use. Best of all, Omnisphere 2.6 can now capture the MIDI data of what the arpeggiator is doing as a standard MIDI file, which can be dragged to any DAW for further editing!

Expanded Hardware Synth Integration
Omnisphere’s unique Hardware Synth Integration feature bridges the physical experience gap between software and hardware, giving users intuitive control of Omnisphere by using the familiar layout of their hardware synth. With the new 2.6 release, many requested hardware synth profiles have been added, including support for over 60 popular hardware synthesizers from Moog®, Sequential®, Roland®, Korg®, Novation®, Nord®, Behringer®, Access®, Studiologic® and Yamaha®. The supported hardware synths cover a wide array of form factors and price ranges for different types of users.

New Sounds
Omnisphere 2.6 features a newly expanded “Hardware Library” with hundreds of new patches created by Eric Persing and our renowned Sound Development team. Notably, this update takes Eric’s classic sound design work from the original 1987 Roland D-50 into completely new sonic territory with Omnisphere’s vast synthesis capabilities.

New Hardware Synth Profiles added in v2.6 include:
• Roland Juno-106
• Roland D-50/PG-1000
• Alesis Andromeda A6
• Behringer Deepmind
• Access Virus Indigo 1
• Access Virus Indigo 2
• Access Virus C
• Access Virus TI
• DSI/Sequential Pro 2
• DSI/Sequential Prophet 08
• DSI/Sequential Mopho
• Roland JP-8000
• Roland JP-8080
• Roland Gaia
• Roland JD-Xi
• Roland SH-201
• Nord Wave
• Nord Lead 3
• Nord Lead 4
• Nord Lead A1
• Nord Stage 3
• Moog One
• Moog Minitaur
• Korg MicroKorg
• Korg MicroKorg XL
• Korg Minilogue XD
• Korg MS-20i
• Korg MS-2000
• Novation MiniNova
• Yamaha Reface CS

*complete list of new features and supported synths will be announced upon the official release in March 2019.

Pricing and Availability
Omnisphere 2.6 is a FREE update to all registered Omnisphere 2 users!
Official Release March 2019

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#2971226 - 01/24/19 08:20 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Marzzz]
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Originally Posted By: Marzzz
Moog is only going to have a private meeting room at NAMM.


Crab puffs and Chardonnay? smile
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#2971241 - 01/24/19 09:10 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Synthoid]
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#2971242 - 01/24/19 09:14 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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This is awesome. Now they just need to add some more updates to Keyscape. More Pianos, More Pianos, more Pianos
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#2971250 - 01/24/19 09:26 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Omnisphere 2.6

Major Arpeggiator Update
Omnisphere’s renowned Arpeggiator has been greatly enhanced with all new creative tools, a brand new preset library and much more. The musical possibilities are vastly expanded, making it one of the most flexible arpeggiators ever, while still being fun to use. Best of all, Omnisphere 2.6 can now capture the MIDI data of what the arpeggiator is doing as a standard MIDI file, which can be dragged to any DAW for further editing!

Expanded Hardware Synth Integration
Omnisphere’s unique Hardware Synth Integration feature bridges the physical experience gap between software and hardware, giving users intuitive control of Omnisphere by using the familiar layout of their hardware synth. With the new 2.6 release, many requested hardware synth profiles have been added, including support for over 60 popular hardware synthesizers from Moog®, Sequential®, Roland®, Korg®, Novation®, Nord®, Behringer®, Access®, Studiologic® and Yamaha®. The supported hardware synths cover a wide array of form factors and price ranges for different types of users.

New Sounds
Omnisphere 2.6 features a newly expanded “Hardware Library” with hundreds of new patches created by Eric Persing and our renowned Sound Development team. Notably, this update takes Eric’s classic sound design work from the original 1987 Roland D-50 into completely new sonic territory with Omnisphere’s vast synthesis capabilities.

New Hardware Synth Profiles added in v2.6 include:
• Roland Juno-106
• Roland D-50/PG-1000
• Alesis Andromeda A6
• Behringer Deepmind
• Access Virus Indigo 1
• Access Virus Indigo 2
• Access Virus C
• Access Virus TI
• DSI/Sequential Pro 2
• DSI/Sequential Prophet 08
• DSI/Sequential Mopho
• Roland JP-8000
• Roland JP-8080
• Roland Gaia
• Roland JD-Xi
• Roland SH-201
• Nord Wave
• Nord Lead 3
• Nord Lead 4
• Nord Lead A1
• Nord Stage 3
• Moog One
• Moog Minitaur
• Korg MicroKorg
• Korg MicroKorg XL
• Korg Minilogue XD
• Korg MS-20i
• Korg MS-2000
• Novation MiniNova
• Yamaha Reface CS

*complete list of new features and supported synths will be announced upon the official release in March 2019.

Pricing and Availability
Omnisphere 2.6 is a FREE update to all registered Omnisphere 2 users!
Official Release March 2019

Busch.


Spectrasonics is pricey but the sampling work and patch creation plus this kind of continued support is what makes it worth it. Even if you need to invest in horsepower to run it.
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#2971271 - 01/24/19 10:05 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Behringer ODYSSEY


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#2971273 - 01/24/19 10:09 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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Are they actually calling it "Odyssey"? I smell a cease-and-desist order looming large.

I mean, yeah, it's a clone, no bones about it, but still...how about "Ody"?

I'd feel slightly less icky buying one if it had a different name, but that's just me. Doesn't mean I don't want one.

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#2971279 - 01/24/19 10:20 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: dje31]
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Originally Posted By: dje31
Are they actually calling it "Odyssey"? I smell a cease-and-desist order looming large.

I mean, yeah, it's a clone, no bones about it, but still...how about "Ody"?

I'd feel slightly less icky buying one if it had a different name, but that's just me. Doesn't mean I don't want one.


It's not like ARP is still making and selling Odysseys.
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#2971286 - 01/24/19 10:31 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: J. Dan]
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Very nice, I wonder what the specs/price is on the odyssey.
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#2971287 - 01/24/19 10:34 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Toano88]
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Very nice, I wonder what the specs/price is on the odyssey.


$499. Scheduled for March.

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#2971290 - 01/24/19 10:38 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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Not a bad price at all!
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#2971291 - 01/24/19 10:42 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Toano88]
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By the way, the doors to NAMM opened at 10:00 am this morning. Showtime!

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#2971293 - 01/24/19 10:46 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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MOTU DP version 10 delivers new features like the Clips window and Stretch Audio, plus hundreds of included virtual instruments and dozens of workflow enhancements requested by DP users.





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#2971296 - 01/24/19 11:02 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Spitfire Audio released London Contemporary Orchestra Textures, their second collaborative venture with the London Contemporary Orchestra. Samples were recorded in an aircraft hangar for a unique sound palette, a collection of constantly evolving textures, formed by layering unexpected combinations of instruments.

Normally priced at $299, the library is available on promotional price at $199 until 2/7/19.





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#2971297 - 01/24/19 11:08 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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New products from Slate Digital:









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#2971304 - 01/24/19 11:36 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2971305 - 01/24/19 11:36 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2971306 - 01/24/19 11:37 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2971307 - 01/24/19 11:40 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2971310 - 01/24/19 11:44 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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The Kurzweil Forte v4 update announced this morning is looking intriguing. I can’t wait to see more details, but so far:

The 6-op FM appears to be implemented as a 2-block DSP algorithm, which suggests that it can be chained with everything else VAST has to offer. Filters, shapers, etc. It has it’s own DSP-based envelope generators and LFO so they’re not subject to the usual limitations and can reportedly be as snappy as you’d expect from an FM synth. All very welcome and intriguing.

The 16-track CC step sequencer looks well implemented with all the expected clock synchronization goodies. It should complement the existing arpeggiator nicely.

There’s a new “Boxcar” 1-block DSP operator that takes two inputs. I’ve seen no details other than a single screen shot showing the FM routed both through and around a SW+SHP block, with the two outputs feeding the new BOXCAR block. Details are presumably forthcoming.

Oh, and the FM operator is listed as a “+” block, suggesting that it can be trivially blended with samples or other DSP oscillators while preserving 128-note polyphony (at least for simple chains.)

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#2971311 - 01/24/19 11:51 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: J. Dan]
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Originally Posted By: J. Dan
It's not like ARP is still making and selling Odysseys.


No, but Korg is, having bought the rights, schematics, IP, etc., no?

Or did I miss the sarcasm emoji?


Edited by dje31 (01/24/19 11:53 AM)

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#2971312 - 01/24/19 11:52 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Lady Gaia]
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PreSonus has a line of USB-C interfaces. Anyone buying a new Mac should apreciate this.
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#2971314 - 01/24/19 11:58 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: dje31]
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Originally Posted By: dje31
Originally Posted By: J. Dan
It's not like ARP is still making and selling Odysseys.


No, but Korg is, having bought the rights, schematics, IP, etc., no?

Or did I miss the sarcasm emoji?


Didn't realize Korg actually bought the rights. Figured they were just doing a reissue same as Behringer.
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#2971316 - 01/24/19 12:04 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: J. Dan]
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Originally Posted By: J. Dan

Didn't realize Korg actually bought the rights. Figured they were just doing a reissue same as Behringer.


Not 100% positive, but was under the impression, or read something here or elsewhere, that that was the case. Wouldn't be the first, or last, time I'm wrong...

I'm sure someone here has the skinny, and will set the record straight.


Edited by dje31 (01/24/19 12:04 PM)

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#2971317 - 01/24/19 12:11 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: J. Dan]
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Besides the awesome update coming to Spectrasonics. What if spectrasonics also released a controller?

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#2971325 - 01/24/19 01:08 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: NYKeys]
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Native Instruments announced a new free production suite, Komplete Start, a selection of studio-quality instruments, effects, utilities, loops, and samples—over 2,000 customizable sounds—drums and percussion, bass, acoustic instruments, synths, pads and atmospheres, effects, and more.



Komplete Kontrol has been updated to version 2.1. The big new feature is that it now works with any hardware:

Originally Posted By: Native Instruments
The KOMPLETE KONTROL software gets you hands on with your sounds, no matter who makes your hardware. As long as your controller has MIDI support, it takes just 30 seconds to set it up in KOMPLETE KONTROL, and you’re done – all your KOMPLETE and NKS instruments and effects are intuitively mapped and ready to use.



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#2971329 - 01/24/19 01:18 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Waves MixHub




More here:

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Mix up to 64 tracks, all from the same plugin window, using channel strips modeled from Chris Lord-Alge’s console.



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#2971335 - 01/24/19 01:31 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Here's a look at the Nord Piano Monitor Speakers:



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#2971362 - 01/24/19 03:51 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Yamaha Keytar!






I’ve seen that form factor before. http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2017/09/19/yamaha-intros-vocaloid-vkb-100-singing-keytar-thing/

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#2971369 - 01/24/19 05:23 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: J. Dan]
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Originally Posted By: dje31
Are they actually calling it "Odyssey"? I smell a cease-and-desist order looming large.

I mean, yeah, it's a clone, no bones about it, but still...how about "Ody"?

I'd feel slightly less icky buying one if it had a different name, but that's just me. Doesn't mean I don't want one.


It's not like ARP is still making and selling Odysseys.


Korg is.

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#2971372 - 01/24/19 05:48 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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#2971373 - 01/24/19 05:52 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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My first impression after a few hours on the floor: ukuleles are a growth market.

I really dug the Yamaha CP’s. It’s brilliant how they have the split and octave buttons adjacent in each section, so creating splits on the fly is super easy and quick. Bravo!
The 88 action feels a little nicer, but the 73 is good enough for it to not really matter (to me, that is).
My only critique would be the fact that the reverb seems to be global only, as far as I could tell.

I have never been a Yamaha guy, but at this point I reckon a CP with a Montage is the best rig money can buy (with an SKX for organ duties).

The Krome EX, I had a hard time telling the difference; there are new patches, of course, but by and large, it doesn’t seem like a major update. Still, I want to check it out more thoroughly in a different place (the headphones Korg had hooked up could barely cut through the ambient noise). The action does feel a little better, closer to the FA-07 and MODX7. None of them feel great, all are pretty short-throw, but I guess that is par for the course in the class now, and at least it is serviceable for top-tier duties.

Biggest and most unexpected news for me was the brandnew Dynaudio Core series speakers. They are a class above the LYD series, starting a $2000 each for the 6”.

Gig Performer 3’s new setlist feature is a very welcome addition to an already brilliant piece of software. They also offer Ableton link, which is great but not somehing I’d use at this time.
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#2971374 - 01/24/19 05:55 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: dje31]
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Originally Posted By: dje31
Originally Posted By: J. Dan

Didn't realize Korg actually bought the rights. Figured they were just doing a reissue same as Behringer.


Not 100% positive, but was under the impression, or read something here or elsewhere, that that was the case. Wouldn't be the first, or last, time I'm wrong...

I'm sure someone here has the skinny, and will set the record straight.


https://trademarks.justia.com/864/94/odyssey-86494798.html

Busch.

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#2971380 - 01/24/19 06:25 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Behringer ODYSSEY


Busch.


Applause to the 'B word' again. Say what ya want about them but I'm all for them. Keeps the vintage in the studio. I bet I'll be buying their OB (maybe even this odyssey as well).

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#2971382 - 01/24/19 06:29 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
Here's a look at the Nord Piano Monitor Speakers:



Best,

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Ewww. Gawd no.

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#2971384 - 01/24/19 06:45 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: zephonic]
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Originally Posted By: zephonic
My only critique would be the fact that the reverb seems to be global only, as far as I could tell.


If I read the manual correctly, there are individually adjustable send levels for each of the three instrument sections (piano, e-piano, sub) independently for delay and reverb.
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#2971385 - 01/24/19 06:47 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: JoJoB3]
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Is someone in this thread actually at the show? Dexibell said they have three new products to show at NAMM. I’m assuming at this point that the S7 Pro and the S3 Pro, are 2 of the three. One would think that a new and small company like Dexibell would have all this information out there in an effort to promote their brand. But I don’t see it anywhere. What is the third product?


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#2971387 - 01/24/19 07:11 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: dje31]
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Originally Posted By: dje31
Originally Posted By: J. Dan
It's not like ARP is still making and selling Odysseys.


No, but Korg is, having bought the rights, schematics, IP, etc., no?

Or did I miss the sarcasm emoji?



Behringer (MUSICGROUP) owns the trademark for a few years now.


ETA: sorry BUSCH. Didn't see you already posted this info.


Edited by EscapeRocks (01/24/19 07:12 PM)
Edit Reason: cuz I didn't read this page yet
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#2971388 - 01/24/19 07:13 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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Originally Posted By: Radagast
Is someone in this thread actually at the show? Dexibell said they have three new products to show at NAMM. I’m assuming at this point that the S7 Pro and the S3 Pro, are 2 of the three. One would think that a new and small company like Dexibell would have all this information out there in an effort to promote their brand. But I don’t see it anywhere. What is the third product?


@zephonic is I believe, hence his post a few posts above yours.
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#2971393 - 01/24/19 07:38 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Toano88]
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PreSonus has a line of USB-C interfaces. Anyone buying a new Mac should apreciate this.
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Studio26C--presonus-studio-26c-usb-c-audio-interface


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#2971397 - 01/24/19 08:39 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: nursers]
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I was there. I even took bunch of pictures from Dexibell keyboards. Since I'm not familiar with their products, I didn't know which was old and which one was new.

I got to try EW Opera, pop brass, and soul voices. They're really good!

Pianoteq had a small midi controller for people to try out the product. Why!!!

A lot of new Chinese and Taiwanese companies with products I've never heard of.

Omnisphere 2.6 is simply awesome! They had a ton of synths and keyboards hooked up to their computers.

I found the booth for NI but it was per "Invite only". Not sure if they have another booth for less fortunate people!

I tried SWAM instruments for the first time. They sound awesome! I had never played them before, and I was able to adapt in no time. I'm totally buying them soon!

I did not like the paint job on the red Kronos! I mean it's a wonderful instrument, but the color looks so strange in person. It could be the lighting too.

I can't feel my feet!



Edited by Sam CA (01/24/19 08:55 PM)
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#2971399 - 01/24/19 08:47 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Sam CA]
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so, how is this helpfull? idk
Not trying to be snarky, just curious.
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#2971400 - 01/24/19 08:55 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
so, how is this helpfull? idk
Not trying to be snarky, just curious.


Sorry I didn't understand the question.
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#2971401 - 01/24/19 09:12 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Sam CA]
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Originally Posted By: Sam CA
Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
so, how is this helpfull? idk
Not trying to be snarky, just curious.


Sorry I didn't understand the question.


Looking forward to seeing your pictures and hearing more in depth thoughts. Thanks.

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#2971402 - 01/24/19 09:20 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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Originally Posted By: Radagast
Is someone in this thread actually at the show? Dexibell said they have three new products to show at NAMM. I’m assuming at this point that the S7 Pro and the S3 Pro, are 2 of the three. One would think that a new and small company like Dexibell would have all this information out there in an effort to promote their brand. But I don’t see it anywhere. What is the third product?


Not sure if their standalone box/module is new. Had not seen that previously but they had a rack of these in their display today.


Edited by artdob (01/24/19 09:44 PM)
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#2971403 - 01/24/19 09:21 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: eric]
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Thank you Eric, I appreciate your response. I'll post some pic/videos once I get them out of the camera. I don't think in depth thoughts come so quickly. It takes a little time to edit the footage. Looks like Dave had way too many drinks!
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#2971404 - 01/24/19 09:36 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: artdob]
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Attended NAMM today with the intention of scoping out my next digital piano and organ.

On the organ front, very impressed with Hammonds XK5. Multi contacts are a winner, and given a standing weekly church organ gig, the pipe organ stops in the current firmware would be a welcome addition for practice. They had a couple models on disply that I think they called the ProB3 or something alng those lines - looked like the prior XK3 series built into vintage Hammond cases and painted black, one was a standard wooden style case, the other modeled to look like a cut down style version. Perhaps a way of cleaning out remaining XK3 inventory?

Tried the Legend also, but thought the upper manual just seemed a bit more distant and required a slightly longwr arm reach. Something about the ergonomics on that board didn’t sit right with me. In the same area, was really impressed with the Viscount Cantorum Duo organ. That would sure be nice as a practice pipe organ at home, and were it not for rock band duties, might displace the highly likely imminent XK5 purchase.

On the piano front, the Dexibell S7 Pro was very impressive. To me, the best piano emulation I’ve come across. The Wurli also had a nice organic feel to it. Every alternative I previewed today, Nord, Roland, Yamaha, Korg - just fell flat in comparison, some very significantly falling short. Key bed felt very nice, I recall this one having an ivory keyboard feel (though the Sweetwater posting I’m reviewing this evening doesn’t mention this feature). In any event, was blown away with the Dexibell offering - just fantastic.

So walked away having identified two items for the purchase list, just needing to decide on the specific Dexibell model, and for the time being, single or double manual XK5 (with the latter, a bit concerned about transportability and weight as I understand the double manual XK5 stays bolted together, and I wonder how my back will feel lugging the extra weight).


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#2971407 - 01/24/19 11:20 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Sam CA]
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I tried SWAM instruments for the first time. They sound awesome! I had never played them before, and I was able to adapt in no time. I'm totally buying them soon!



YES!

I did not get to play it myself, as I was in rush to get as much done as possible in the few hours I was there, but the violin demo melted my brain!

There is some next-level shit going on under the hood there; I guess it is what Roland tried to do with Super Natural, but these guys have taken it two steps further.
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#2971409 - 01/24/19 11:25 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: zephonic]
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Do try them tomorrow. You won't be disappointed! Roli would probably be the perfect controller for these instruments.
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#2971410 - 01/24/19 11:26 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Sam CA]
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#2971416 - 01/25/19 12:55 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Sam CA]
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I was there. I even took bunch of pictures from Dexibell keyboards. Since I'm not familiar with their products, I didn't know which was old and which one was new.

I got to try EW Opera, pop brass, and soul voices. They're really good!

Pianoteq had a small midi controller for people to try out the product. Why!!!

A lot of new Chinese and Taiwanese companies with products I've never heard of.

Omnisphere 2.6 is simply awesome! They had a ton of synths and keyboards hooked up to their computers.

I found the booth for NI but it was per "Invite only". Not sure if they have another booth for less fortunate people!

I tried SWAM instruments for the first time. They sound awesome! I had never played them before, and I was able to adapt in no time. I'm totally buying them soon!

I did not like the paint job on the red Kronos! I mean it's a wonderful instrument, but the color looks so strange in person. It could be the lighting too.

I can't feel my feet!



Please tell me about the Shakes and Swells on E/W Pop Brass.
Quantum Leap Brass was my fav for Gigastudio 20 years ago but I use the top 4 Instruments for Kontakt, Ive got everything I want except the Shakes.

I want that What Comes Up Must Go Down Shake from Blood Sweat and Tears.
BBB CHein Warp IV NI Session...killer Baritones, Sax Sections, top shelf artics and brass except for all 4 have shitty Shakes.
I get better Shakes using stacked triangle waves on my Code 8.
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#2971420 - 01/25/19 01:07 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: hardware]
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Please tell me about the Shakes and Swells on E/W Pop Brass.
Quantum Leap Brass was my fav for Gigastudio 20 years ago but I use the top 4 Instruments for Kontakt, Ive got everything I want except the Shakes.

I want that What Comes Up Must Go Down Shake from Blood Sweat and Tears.
BBB CHein Warp IV NI Session...killer Baritones, Sax Sections, top shelf artics and brass except for all 4 have shitty Shakes.
I get better Shakes using stacked triangle waves on my Code 8.


I know what you mean! I didn't try all presets, but by far,these are the best sounding swells, and shakes for 'pop and jazz' EW has ever produced. It sounds very different from their darker orchestral libraries. Again, I can't comment on the whole package, as I didn't get to try everything. That place is so noisy that you can't really hear the details.

I spent more time with 'Voices of Soul'. It has very nice legato transitions from one note(s) to another. A very smooth sounding library for this particular style.


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#2971422 - 01/25/19 01:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2971428 - 01/25/19 03:04 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2971432 - 01/25/19 03:59 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Sam CA]
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#2971433 - 01/25/19 04:12 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: zephonic]
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#2971434 - 01/25/19 04:13 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: artdob]
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Attended NAMM today with the intention of scoping out my next digital piano and organ.

On the organ front, very impressed with Hammonds XK5. Multi contacts are a winner, and given a standing weekly church organ gig, the pipe organ stops in the current firmware would be a welcome addition for practice. They had a couple models on disply that I think they called the ProB3 or something alng those lines - looked like the prior XK3 series built into vintage Hammond cases and painted black, one was a standard wooden style case, the other modeled to look like a cut down style version. Perhaps a way of cleaning out remaining XK3 inventory?

Tried the Legend also, but thought the upper manual just seemed a bit more distant and required a slightly longwr arm reach. Something about the ergonomics on that board didn’t sit right with me. In the same area, was really impressed with the Viscount Cantorum Duo organ. That would sure be nice as a practice pipe organ at home, and were it not for rock band duties, might displace the highly likely imminent XK5 purchase.

On the piano front, the Dexibell S7 Pro was very impressive. To me, the best piano emulation I’ve come across. The Wurli also had a nice organic feel to it. Every alternative I previewed today, Nord, Roland, Yamaha, Korg - just fell flat in comparison, some very significantly falling short. Key bed felt very nice, I recall this one having an ivory keyboard feel (though the Sweetwater posting I’m reviewing this evening doesn’t mention this feature). In any event, was blown away with the Dexibell offering - just fantastic.

So walked away having identified two items for the purchase list, just needing to decide on the specific Dexibell model, and for the time being, single or double manual XK5 (with the latter, a bit concerned about transportability and weight as I understand the double manual XK5 stays bolted together, and I wonder how my back will feel lugging the extra weight).


Maybe you can get the Dexibell S9 for the piano and drawbar organ and the Viscount for the pipe organ sounds.

Originally Posted By: Sam CA
I was there. I even took bunch of pictures from Dexibell keyboards. Since I'm not familiar with their products, I didn't know which was old and which one was new.


I tried SWAM instruments for the first time. They sound awesome! I had never played them before, and I was able to adapt in no time. I'm totally buying them soon!




I’m not familiar SWAM. I’ve been trying to find them.


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#2971438 - 01/25/19 05:25 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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#2971439 - 01/25/19 05:26 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2971440 - 01/25/19 05:29 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2971442 - 01/25/19 05:35 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Ah... the Waldorf Radias.
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#2971443 - 01/25/19 05:43 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: EscapeRocks]
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It's not like ARP is still making and selling Odysseys.


No, but Korg is, having bought the rights, schematics, IP, etc., no?



Behringer (MUSICGROUP) owns the trademark for a few years now.

Trademarks expire after some period of non-use. I'd guess Korg tried to TM it but Behringer's application beat them to it... and now that Behringer is actually bringing it to market, they would be in a position to insist that Korg stop using the name, or license use of the name from them. If they hadn't brought it to market within a specified period of time--2 years, maybe?--Korg would have had the right to claim it for themselves. You're not allowed to hold trademarks without using them, and there's only so much of a grace period.
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#2971446 - 01/25/19 05:45 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Synthoid]
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Ah... the Waldorf Radias.

Actually, even more like the Arturia Origin! (Which I'd post a picture of, except people might think it was being shown...)
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#2971448 - 01/25/19 06:01 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2971455 - 01/25/19 06:39 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: artdob]
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On the piano front, the Dexibell S7 Pro was very impressive.
To me, the best piano emulation I’ve come across.
The Wurli also had a nice organic feel to it.
...

In any event, was blown away with the Dexibell offering - just fantastic.


Do you know if the EPs,- Wurli, Rhodes and Clavinet,- are updated/upgraded samples/sounds now or are they the same from previous "non Pro" models ?
Did you also try the internal overdrive/ dist./ amp model - FX and are they improved meanwhile ?

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#2971457 - 01/25/19 06:44 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Synthoid]
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So how much is it? Why would they show a synth at NAMM and have no idea if anyone could afford one?
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#2971458 - 01/25/19 06:45 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Something about the "Dexibell" name. Sounds like a character from The Beverly Hillbillies.

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#2971464 - 01/25/19 07:02 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Synthoid]
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Apart from the strange presenter (from Korg ?!) the Kyra videos interest me from the sound perspective, and maybe even the attempt to make a nice interface for a complex analogue simulation synth.

I wonder if Mr. Caballero can't find the time for demonstrating his on own synth, or maybe it's a cost matter. I have no idea how much profit Waldorf think they're going to make of this !

In spite of the demos being a bit off in my opinion, I get the impression that someone else could make a quite nice sound from these oversampled oscillators.

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#2971465 - 01/25/19 07:11 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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Trademarks expire after some period of non-use. I'd guess Korg tried to TM it but Behringer's application beat them to it... and now that Behringer is actually bringing it to market, they would be in a position to insist that Korg stop using the name, or license use of the name from them. If they hadn't brought it to market within a specified period of time--2 years, maybe?--Korg would have had the right to claim it for themselves. You're not allowed to hold trademarks without using them, and there's only so much of a grace period.


Thanks for sorting that out, Scott!


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#2971466 - 01/25/19 07:14 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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Ah... the Waldorf Radias.

Actually, even more like the Arturia Origin! (Which I'd post a picture of, except people might think it was being shown...)


thu

Or the Waldorf Virus TI ... wink

if Waldorf can bring it to market with decent reliability, it could become a workhorse for the market and an extended cash cow for them.

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#2971496 - 01/25/19 09:43 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Sam CA]
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I was there. I even took bunch of pictures from Dexibell keyboards. Since I'm not familiar with their products, I didn't know which was old and which one was new.





Dexibell is showing a video on FB that shows what is probably their third new product.
It looks like a small black grand piano called Concept HOME.





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#2971500 - 01/25/19 09:52 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: dje31]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott

Trademarks expire after some period of non-use. I'd guess Korg tried to TM it but Behringer's application beat them to it... and now that Behringer is actually bringing it to market, they would be in a position to insist that Korg stop using the name, or license use of the name from them. If they hadn't brought it to market within a specified period of time--2 years, maybe?--Korg would have had the right to claim it for themselves. You're not allowed to hold trademarks without using them, and there's only so much of a grace period.


Thanks for sorting that out, Scott!


and if you look, Behringer (MUSIC Grp) has filed and received extensions on the Odyssey trademark every couple years since they first obtained it in 2014.
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#2971506 - 01/25/19 10:12 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: EscapeRocks]
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#2971511 - 01/25/19 10:28 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: delmar]
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Nah... Dexibell is not from the Beverly Hillbillies.

Dexibell is actually Tinkerbell's little brother. Their uncle formed Dexi's Midnight Runners.

OK OK. I did play the Dexibell clonewheel organ awhile back and liked it very much. I didn't like the price. The single manual was priced at over two grand.... more like you might expect from Nord or something.

And I think it was a 73 note clonewheel...which was odd. At least I seem to remember

As a Viscount Legend Live owner I thought the CV on the Dexibell was very nice. Right in there with Key B and Crumar.

Interesting to hear that they might have a good stage piano with Wurli etc. It is very uncommon to encounter these in the states however. Sam Ash Hollywood was the only place I have ever seen a Dexibell anything.

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#2971512 - 01/25/19 10:31 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: LX88]
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#2971517 - 01/25/19 10:54 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2971523 - 01/25/19 11:21 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Throbert]
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And Dexibells offering

Dexibell
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#2971526 - 01/25/19 11:30 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Throbert]
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And Dexibells offering

Dexibell


Looks interesting...although it's amusing that that they say "Unlimited Notes Polyphony" on the same screen where they are flashing "320 Oscillators". I guess "unlimited = 320" in marketing speak.
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#2971534 - 01/25/19 12:17 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2971535 - 01/25/19 12:21 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Throbert]
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Audio Modeling makers of SWAM instruments, listened to the sax vst and it kills.


No question! I bought their solo strings collection on Cyber Monday last year to go with a Seaboard Block, and I hope to complement them with the woodwinds at some point down the road.
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#2971539 - 01/25/19 12:35 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2971552 - 01/25/19 01:18 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Baggypants]
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Yamaha Keytar!




I’ve seen that form factor before. http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2017/09/19/yamaha-intros-vocaloid-vkb-100-singing-keytar-thing/


Yep, Yamaha re-purposed the VKB-100 Vocaloid keytar. The VKB-100 has 13 musical instrument patches in addition to the Vocaloid sounds. Yamaha reused the same hardware platform for the SHS-500 Sonogenic. They tossed away the Vocaloid stuff and add more instruments.

Ignoring the play-along aspect, it's like a polyphonic Reface ROMpler with the waveforms and effects taken from entry-level PSRs. Street price is $300 USD.

More thoughts, rambling and a list of instruments/drum kits at:

http://sandsoftwaresound.net/winter-namm-2019-yamaha-sonogenic/
http://sandsoftwaresound.net/yamaha-shs-500-sonogenic-pre-review/

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#2971553 - 01/25/19 01:22 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: delmar]
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Behringer Pro-1


Dammit!!! grin

Pro-1, Odyssey, OBXa. Gonna have to resurrect the old 4 tier Ultimate A-Frame I had in 1983 wink
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#2971563 - 01/25/19 02:47 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2971618 - 01/25/19 08:19 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Dammit!!! grin
Pro-1, Odyssey, OBXa. Gonna have to resurrect the old 4 tier Ultimate A-Frame I had in 1983 wink


Yup, it's deja vu all over again. snax
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#2971625 - 01/25/19 08:47 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Sam Mullins]
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Originally Posted By: Sam Mullins
Originally Posted By: Throbert
And Dexibells offering

Dexibell


Looks interesting...although it's amusing that that they say "Unlimited Notes Polyphony" on the same screen where they are flashing "320 Oscillators". I guess "unlimited = 320" in marketing speak.


In other words, even with stereo piano samples and layering another sound on top, you still have more than enough polyphony for all 88 notes at once. So in a very real sense, you have unlimited polyphony.

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#2971626 - 01/25/19 08:59 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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#2971627 - 01/25/19 09:02 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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Unlimited != infinite.

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#2971658 - 01/25/19 11:07 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2971669 - 01/26/19 04:21 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Ockeghem]
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Originally Posted By: Ockeghem
Unlimited != infinite.


Unlimited: 1. limitless or without bounds; unrestricted

Given the set definition of 88 keys on a piano, and the amount of layering specified for the sound engine, 320 oscillators yields unrestricted polyphony.

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#2971670 - 01/26/19 04:22 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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VERY cool. Much more interesting than ANY analog synth.

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#2971686 - 01/26/19 06:07 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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Originally Posted By: Radagast
Originally Posted By: Ockeghem
Unlimited != infinite.


Unlimited: 1. limitless or without bounds; unrestricted

Given the set definition of 88 keys on a piano, and the amount of layering specified for the sound engine, 320 oscillators yields unrestricted polyphony.


From Merriam-Webster

unlimited

 adjective

Definition of unlimited

1: lacking any controls : UNRESTRICTED, "unlimited access"

2: BOUNDLESS, INFINITE "unlimited possibilities"

3: not bounded by exceptions :UNDEFINED "the unlimited and unconditional surrender of the enemy— Sir Winston Churchill"





Edited by Sam Mullins (01/26/19 06:08 AM)
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#2971698 - 01/26/19 06:58 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Sam Mullins]
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Originally Posted By: Radagast
Originally Posted By: Ockeghem
Unlimited != infinite.


Unlimited: 1. limitless or without bounds; unrestricted

Given the set definition of 88 keys on a piano, and the amount of layering specified for the sound engine, 320 oscillators yields unrestricted polyphony.


From Merriam-Webster

unlimited

 adjective

Definition of unlimited

1: lacking any controls : UNRESTRICTED, "unlimited access"

2: BOUNDLESS, INFINITE "unlimited possibilities"

3: not bounded by exceptions :UNDEFINED "the unlimited and unconditional surrender of the enemy— Sir Winston Churchill"





The word has more than one use as you can see by the several definitions. The one I quoted is sufficient to support Dexibell’s use of the word. If you or anyone else doesn’t like it, too bad. Deal with it. It has unrestricted polyphony.

See definition number 1.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/unlimited


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#2971705 - 01/26/19 07:26 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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#2971709 - 01/26/19 07:54 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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The word has more than one use as you can see by the several definitions. The one I quoted is sufficient to support Dexibell’s use of the word. If you or anyone else doesn’t like it, too bad. Deal with it. It has unrestricted polyphony.

See definition number 1.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/unlimited



First of all, I think 320 is plenty; it looks like a nice board on first glance. Not in the market for anything new, so I have no dog in this race.

I understand how you are using the term and that is why I posted all the definitions. So under your definition, a 61 note keyboard with the ability to layer two sounds would be unlimited polyphony if it could play 122 notes at one time. So in that case, both could be called unlimited, but I would argue that the Dexibell has a clear advantage.

On the other hand, if that same keyboard got a firmware upgrade that allowed it to layer three sounds but the maximum simultaneous nodes remained at 122, then it would no longer be unlimited polyphony.

I get it. You are saying the term “unlimited” is true under definition 1. I am saying it is unhelpful in understanding the actual capabilities. Why not just say it has 320 and leave it at that?


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#2971721 - 01/26/19 08:59 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Sam Mullins]
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I understand how you are using the term and that is why I posted all the definitions. So under your definition, a 61 note keyboard with the ability to layer two sounds would be unlimited polyphony if it could play 122 notes at one time. So in that case, both could be called unlimited, but I would argue that the Dexibell has a clear advantage.

Of course, a single keystrike can use more than one instance of polyphony (i.e. for stereo, crossfades, resonances). But let's put that aside and assume 1-to-1 note:polyphony. If 122 in the first instance and 320 in the Dexibell both let you play and sustain every single key of the keyboard with no dropouts no matter what available sound(s) are selected, than I'd say they are equivalent, and would disagree that Dexibell has a clear advantage, as there is no instance where there would be an audible benefit. (Well, apart from the benefit of having more than 61 keys to begin with.) But you make a good point about "unlimited polyphony" in a tone generator being a function of what a board could possibly ask of it. For example, the Dexibell supports a maximum of three parts. If they added a multi-timbral MIDI receive function (as many boards have, to allow them to do things like play multi-channel MIDI sequences that can serve as your background tracks), the same tone generator would no longer offer "unlimited" polyphony. Which ironically means that leaving a common feature out is how a board like this can claim unlimited polyphony, by simply not building in any way to use up more polyphony than the board is capable of.

Originally Posted By: Sam Mullins
Why not just say it has 320 and leave it at that?

I see why... because the 320 number alone doesn't communicate the benefit they're trying to sell, which is the claim that it it is impossible to play ever hear a dropped note. But yes, there is a hidden other side, which is that that is only true because it is impossible for the keyboard to split/layer (or MIDI-trigger) more than three sounds at once.


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#2971726 - 01/26/19 09:14 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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Full polyphony could be "there's a string simulation for every string in the instrument that's being simulated". So that re-triggering notes can be done indefinitely. How to do that with samples is harder, you'd have to specify the machine can keep up with all possible note-on messages on a row that it can possibly receive, and never fail as an approximation of the term unlimited.

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#2971758 - 01/26/19 12:30 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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VERY cool. Much more interesting than ANY analog synth.


Definitely. I was back and forth about the Prophet-X, as it has that Dave Smith, "it is easy to make it sound great" thing going on. But this is a very deep synthesizer, and a a product that should mark some kind of inflection point. It isn't a "business as usual" thing, but actively trying to go to the outer edge. The Quantum is definitely on the list. Not immediately, but on the list for sure.

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#2971770 - 01/26/19 01:03 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Ultimate Support offers new modular desktop stands and a remodel of their Apex stand:



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#2971772 - 01/26/19 01:08 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Nathanael_I]
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#2971774 - 01/26/19 01:09 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Throbert]
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#2971776 - 01/26/19 01:19 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Ultimate Support have been true innovators for some time now. This product is a surprise, but it makes sense that Ultimate would be looking to fill a much-needed void.



I like the redesigned Apex with the ability to have angled tiers. AND....the new pedal board that fit over the redesigned legs.

The main thing I like is that the new super clamps and tri-bars are still compatible with all the iterations.

He mentioned showed the original at NAMM 1986. I bought and still have my original Apex in 1987. It just works.
I also have the AX-40 and have used the 30 year old clamps on it to add a third tier.


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#2971779 - 01/26/19 01:56 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Thanks for the info; I stopped the video right before the end so missed the clamp and tri-bar compatibility bit. I had been debating selling my Apex stand, but perhaps I could get it to work with the Moog Voyager using the newer attachments.
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#2971781 - 01/26/19 02:04 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Throbert]
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How many posts over a word, Unlimited. If not go jump off a building or something.


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#2971786 - 01/26/19 02:18 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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I like the redesigned Apex with the ability to have angled tiers. AND....the new pedal board that fit over the redesigned legs.

does look nice and the price is right. Was my favorite stand in the late 1980's, until I was smitten with Invisible.
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#2971806 - 01/26/19 04:03 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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#2971808 - 01/26/19 04:10 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Thanks Geoff! This was the one I was most excited about, but have confirmed that locally we won't have access to it until April at earliest. And the pricing I was quoted was way out of the ballpark but hoping they got the currency conversion wrong wink
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#2971815 - 01/26/19 04:33 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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The Radial rack should help out a lot of people, and is very different from any line mixers out there as that isn't quite what it is anyway.

Usually they post a user manual at their site fairly early, showing suggestions for routings and use cases. It wouldn't surprise me if this unit has some practical applications in the studio as well as live.
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#2971821 - 01/26/19 05:20 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Ultimate Support offers new modular desktop stands and a remodel of their Apex stand:

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#2971830 - 01/26/19 06:09 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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The Radial rack should help out a lot of people, and is very different from any line mixers out there as that isn't quite what it is anyway.

Usually they post a user manual at their site fairly early, showing suggestions for routings and use cases. It wouldn't surprise me if this unit has some practical applications in the studio as well as live.


Indeed though I'm uneducated enough to wonder how it's a lot better than the PreSonus gear. With them announcing the USB-C option now I can't see where the extra cost is in the KL-8 although the components may be better?
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#2971836 - 01/26/19 06:58 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Bobby Simons]
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I hate the Apex stands like most of you hate X stands. Maybe more.
I soured on them some years back, after I lost the special inside-threaded bolt that held the Deltex together -- and U.S. told me that there were no spare parts, nor would they give me specs to try and get a new one machined.

That said, a 10 degree tilting shelf and a place for pedals is very attractive. I look forward to being a trailblazer follower, as soon as someone else tells me how the upper shelf can tilt down without the keyboard falling off.
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#2971838 - 01/26/19 07:09 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Tom Williams]
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I liked the really big Apex stand that came in various eye catching colors. I thought about trying to find one for the Pop gig. But they had been recently discontinued and had risen quite a bit in price and were big and heavier than heck I guess. But I thought it would have had a nice stage presentation.


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#2971845 - 01/26/19 08:03 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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Originally Posted By: CEB
I liked the really big Apex stand that came in various eye catching colors. I thought about trying to find one for the Pop gig. But they had been recently discontinued and had risen quite a bit in price and were big and heavier than heck I guess. But I thought it would have had a nice stage presentation.


That's the AX-90. I have one in the hard to find Red color. I bought it new for $599.00. What are these worth now? It's is a really cool stand and I get so many compliments on it. Only bring it on top gigs.

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#2971850 - 01/26/19 09:03 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: kbrkr]
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I didn't look at every page here, but just found this. Hopefully not a repost. A synthesizer that uses motors as oscillators.


Edited by delmar (01/26/19 09:03 PM)

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#2971870 - 01/26/19 11:16 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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Gibson is bringing back real Les Paul Juniors.


Or you can buy an original for $13,000.

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#2971873 - 01/26/19 11:48 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Thanks for the info; I stopped the video right before the end so missed the clamp and tri-bar compatibility bit. I had been debating selling my Apex stand, but perhaps I could get it to work with the Moog Voyager using the newer attachments.


I may be wrong but I thought he was saying the new Apex will accept old clamps/tribars. I didn’t hear him say the new clamps will work on old Apex. If not it’s perfectly understandable. People would just buy new clamps and save some money.
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#2971878 - 01/27/19 12:38 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Synthaholic]
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Originally Posted By: Synthaholic
Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
Thanks for the info; I stopped the video right before the end so missed the clamp and tri-bar compatibility bit. I had been debating selling my Apex stand, but perhaps I could get it to work with the Moog Voyager using the newer attachments.


I may be wrong but I thought he was saying the new Apex will accept old clamps/tribars. I didn’t hear him say the new clamps will work on old Apex. If not it’s perfectly understandable. People would just buy new clamps and save some money.


I was basing it on he said you could use a clamp from your current Apex on the new one to add a third tier. That would indicate that the main part has the same groove for clamp attaching if the old can fit the new.
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#2971900 - 01/27/19 05:59 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks
Originally Posted By: Synthaholic
Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
Thanks for the info; I stopped the video right before the end so missed the clamp and tri-bar compatibility bit. I had been debating selling my Apex stand, but perhaps I could get it to work with the Moog Voyager using the newer attachments.


I may be wrong but I thought he was saying the new Apex will accept old clamps/tribars. I didn’t hear him say the new clamps will work on old Apex. If not it’s perfectly understandable. People would just buy new clamps and save some money.


I was basing it on he said you could use a clamp from your current Apex on the new one to add a third tier. That would indicate that the main part has the same groove for clamp attaching if the old can fit the new.


Am I missing something? What's to keep a keyboard from falling off when the arms are angled? There's nothing that see that would stop a keyboard from sliding off.


Edited by sherry (01/27/19 05:59 AM)

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#2971926 - 01/27/19 08:14 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: sherry]
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I talked to one of the reps at the USS booth and he said the new clamps are not compatible with the old columns.

Price will remain the same, $199.
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#2971932 - 01/27/19 08:39 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2971934 - 01/27/19 08:39 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2971936 - 01/27/19 08:41 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: delmar]
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Originally Posted By: delmar
I didn't look at every page here, but just found this. Hopefully not a repost. A synthesizer that uses motors as oscillators.

Here's another look:



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#2971943 - 01/27/19 09:38 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: zephonic]
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I talked to one of the reps at the USS booth and he said the new clamps are not compatible with the old columns.

Price will remain the same, $199.

That’s what I figured, and it just makes sense. Thanks.
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#2971980 - 01/27/19 11:36 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Synthaholic]
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Originally Posted By: Synthaholic
Originally Posted By: zephonic
I talked to one of the reps at the USS booth and he said the new clamps are not compatible with the old columns.

Price will remain the same, $199.

That’s what I figured, and it just makes sense. Thanks.


Yep, I watched the video wrong. The old clamps will work on the new one, not the other way around. (The original APEX and current AX-40 clamps are interchangeable)

Looking at this close up I can now see how they did this for the new style. The column now has new tracks where the brand new clamps attach, while retaining the previous column's mounting tracks for older clamps.

Still a great idea. I could take one of my AX-40 clamps, that he's showing here, and add it to the new stand in the middle. Giving me 3 tiers with the top one angled.

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#2971983 - 01/27/19 11:52 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: nursers]
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Originally Posted By: nursers
Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
The Radial rack should help out a lot of people, and is very different from any line mixers out there as that isn't quite what it is anyway.


Indeed though I'm uneducated enough to wonder how it's a lot better than the PreSonus gear. With them announcing the USB-C option now I can't see where the extra cost is in the KL-8 although the components may be better?


The Radial is a rack mount line mixer and the PreSonus is a audio interface for a computer kind of an apples and oranges comparison. The Radial is basically a high end mixer and that's it. The PreSonus is a mainly an Analog to Digital convertor to send to your audio to your computer in digital format.

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#2971995 - 01/27/19 01:03 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Docbop]
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Originally Posted By: Docbop
Originally Posted By: nursers
Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
The Radial rack should help out a lot of people, and is very different from any line mixers out there as that isn't quite what it is anyway.


Indeed though I'm uneducated enough to wonder how it's a lot better than the PreSonus gear. With them announcing the USB-C option now I can't see where the extra cost is in the KL-8 although the components may be better?


The Radial is a rack mount line mixer and the PreSonus is a audio interface for a computer kind of an apples and oranges comparison. The Radial is basically a high end mixer and that's it. The PreSonus is a mainly an Analog to Digital convertor to send to your audio to your computer in digital format.


The Radial KL-8 is also an Audio Interface which is great for people like me who use hardware and software on stage.
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#2971998 - 01/27/19 01:19 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Docbop]
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Originally Posted By: Docbop
\The Radial is a rack mount line mixer and the PreSonus is a audio interface for a computer kind of an apples and oranges comparison. The Radial is basically a high end mixer and that's it. The PreSonus is a mainly an Analog to Digital convertor to send to your audio to your computer in digital format.


I haven't seen a statement as to whether the KL-8 does it's mixing analog or digital, but I'm going to guess it is an 8-channel 192kHz/24-bit audio interface with integrated digital mixer setup to be customized to this specific role. I believe the KL-8 can accept digital I/O on at least one channel and if it can send the full mix digitally to a computer, it can replace an audio interface in some applications.

Per pricepoint, it's actually a bit less than I'd have expected for a Radial product with this capability. Their deal is to sell quality and purpose built usefulness for gigging musicians, not to be the price leader. I'm personally not that into their designs, but I get why others are.

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#2972019 - 01/27/19 03:28 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Zalman Stern]
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I may have misinterpreted the purpose of the Radial KL-8. Too busy these days with a huge number of gigs and rehearsals, but hope to catch up on more details a week from now. My preference is to download and study user manuals.
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#2972020 - 01/27/19 03:29 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Neumann enters the headphone market with an interesting new closed-back design said to have linear response:

https://sonicstate.com/news/2019/01/26/namm-2019-neumanns-first-headphones/

This appears to be a unique design and not a repackaging of something from parent company Sennheiser.

It's interesting how many top-end loudspeaker and mic companies have been breaking into the studio headphone market of late. I bought a nice pair from Focal last year, and have considered the new model from ADAM.
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#2972022 - 01/27/19 03:34 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks
Originally Posted By: Docbop
Originally Posted By: nursers
[quote=Mark Schmieder]The Radial rack should help out a lot of people, and is very different from any line mixers out there as that isn't quite what it is anyway.


Indeed though I'm uneducated enough to wonder how it's a lot better than the PreSonus gear. With them announcing the USB-C option now I can't see where the extra cost is in the KL-8 although the components may be better?


The Radial is a rack mount line mixer and the PreSonus is a audio interface for a computer kind of an apples and oranges comparison. The Radial is basically a high end mixer and that's it. The PreSonus is a mainly an Analog to Digital convertor to send to your audio to your computer in digital format.


The Radial KL-8 is also an Audio Interface which is great for people like me who use hardware and software on stage. [/quote]

I stand corrected, I thought the USB was just for laptop failover it is an interface as well. So a Swiss Army Knife audio tool cool.

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#2972023 - 01/27/19 03:36 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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The Motor synth is absolutely awesome, and sounds fantastic!

Basically a tonewheel subtractive synth. In many ways that makes more sense as it's far less mechanically complex than an additive synth. Kind of surprised there weren't examples of this from the late 60s when exploring synthesis techniques.
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#2972027 - 01/27/19 03:56 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Docbop]
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Originally Posted By: Docbop
Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks
Originally Posted By: Docbop
[quote=nursers][quote=Mark Schmieder]The Radial rack should help out a lot of people, and is very different from any line mixers out there as that isn't quite what it is anyway.


Indeed though I'm uneducated enough to wonder how it's a lot better than the PreSonus gear. With them announcing the USB-C option now I can't see where the extra cost is in the KL-8 although the components may be better?


The Radial is a rack mount line mixer and the PreSonus is a audio interface for a computer kind of an apples and oranges comparison. The Radial is basically a high end mixer and that's it. The PreSonus is a mainly an Analog to Digital convertor to send to your audio to your computer in digital format.


The Radial KL-8 is also an Audio Interface which is great for people like me who use hardware and software on stage. [/quote]

I stand corrected, I thought the USB was just for laptop failover it is an interface as well. So a Swiss Army Knife audio tool cool. [/quote]

Indeed - so I probably need to do some manual diving on components because based on pure functionality (I won't need all the input or outputs both offer), it seems the PreSonus is heaps cheaper and still delivers what I want. We shall see :the:
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#2972040 - 01/27/19 05:02 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: nursers]
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NAMMbulating 2019: NAMM Convention Wanderings

NAMMaste, music fans!

I met friends, attended discussions, saw woefully little gear, and saw an inspiring presentation by photographer Neal Preston. Come along with me, won't you, to my rather short NAMMbulating experience.


with Gus Lozada/PreSonus

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#2972045 - 01/27/19 05:13 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: KenElevenShadows]
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A short introduction on the Privia PX-S1000 with Richard Formidoni. Unfortunately when he tried to put the pedal back on the floor something happened to the mic, so I had to leave out a good 3 minutes section.

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#2972046 - 01/27/19 05:25 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Sam CA]
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#2972047 - 01/27/19 05:50 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
Neumann enters the headphone market with an interesting new closed-back design said to have linear response:

https://sonicstate.com/news/2019/01/26/namm-2019-neumanns-first-headphones/

This appears to be a unique design and not a repackaging of something from parent company Sennheiser.

It's interesting how many top-end loudspeaker and mic companies have been breaking into the studio headphone market of late. I bought a nice pair from Focal last year, and have considered the new model from ADAM.


Thanks for posting this. I becoming increasingly dissatisfied with my Senny HD 380's of late so I might check these out...hopefully they won't break the bank hahaha!
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#2972050 - 01/27/19 05:58 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: miden]
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RCF was showing a TT 08-A II that was in their booth. I tried to get details on price and what the changes were, but their booth was quite busy and I wasn't able to get anyone's attention...

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#2972055 - 01/27/19 06:33 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Waid-a-minnit -- I thought Uli said he was going to snub forego Namm. idk

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#2972057 - 01/27/19 06:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Behringer Crave - the NAMMless synth



Thanks for posting this Elmer. I've only just seen this video. It seems very interesting to me: a single oscillator version of the Behringer Neuron? It sounds good, and could be a fun additional oscillator/cv source in a larger rig.

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#2972058 - 01/27/19 06:44 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: zxcvbnm098]
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RCF was showing a TT 08-A II that was in their booth. I tried to get details on price and what the changes were, but their booth was quite busy and I wasn't able to get anyone's attention...


I saw that too. Was talking to the RCF guy who seemed pretty knowledgeable about it, except he didn't know about pricing since that wasn't his area. That and the new TT10A II are both in final R&D stages and not on their site yet.

The 08 and 10 have a new amp module along with drivers. It's been totally revamped and the box re-tuned he said.

I asked how did it sound in comparison to the 08A and he said night and day. More presence and better dispersion.

I picked up both from the floor. The 08 seemed about the same weight as mine and the 10 was maybe 5 lbs. heavier give or take. Pretty certain the 10 was under 33 lbs. And it seemed maybe 2 inches at the most taller. Very compact for a 10" box.

Both had handles on the top ....yay !! And the textured finish looked way more durable then the old ones.

He said they should be available after the second quarter - meaning late Spring or early Summer. Don't know how much pricier these will be, but if you're looking to buy one, or a pair, I'd hold off to at least check pricing on them. They looked REALLY nice!
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#2972059 - 01/27/19 06:52 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: JerryA]
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It seems very interesting to me: a single oscillator version of the Behringer Neuron?


Well I was partially correct: single oscillator (CEM 3340 style) from the Neutron, Ladder filter from the Model D, a sequencer and patch points .... feature set similar to Mother 32.


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#2972085 - 01/28/19 12:59 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: JerryA]
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More information (except pricing) on those new headphones from Neumann:

https://en-de.neumann.com/ndh-20

Linear response in headphones that go down to 5 Hz? That's pretty remarkable if true.

These are meant for mixing, tracking, drummers, FOH, etc. They may well have the most isolation of any cans currently on offer (especially ones that actually sound good).
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#2972090 - 01/28/19 03:58 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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#2972104 - 01/28/19 07:21 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Non-linear labs C15


Audio and video

https://nonlinear-labs.de/demo/demo.html


Does NAMM have a category for Industrial Design? IMO, Best In Show.
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#2972114 - 01/28/19 08:06 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: drawback]
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Non-linear labs C15


Audio and video

https://nonlinear-labs.de/demo/demo.html


Does NAMM have a category for Industrial Design? IMO, Best In Show.

OTOH whoever serves the videos from their web site would not qualify as "best", lol. Can't get one to play for more than a few seconds.

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#2972135 - 01/28/19 09:16 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Reezekeys]
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Non-linear labs C15


Audio and video

https://nonlinear-labs.de/demo/demo.html


Does NAMM have a category for Industrial Design? IMO, Best In Show.

OTOH whoever serves the videos from their web site would not qualify as "best", lol. Can't get one to play for more than a few seconds.


For sure!! And when it does play, it's incomprehensibly not musical anyway idk
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#2972161 - 01/28/19 10:40 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Ultimate Support offers new modular desktop stands and a remodel of their Apex stand:



Best,

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Oddly, Ultimate still doesn't have their new Apex on their company website (or I am incompetent). They only show the AX-48 (which I have)

The pedal board - not sure on their execution - as he attached it to the stand foot brace, it looks like its going to be a forward reach if you play standing up. I notice in the video that where he's standing as he stepped on it is smack in the middle of the hypothetical keyboard, if there were one on the bottom tier.
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#2972163 - 01/28/19 10:48 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: MotiDave]
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Did anyone who went to NAMM see the Piano de Voyage break-apart modular travel keyboard?

https://pianodevoyage.com

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#2972184 - 01/28/19 11:55 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Non-linear labs C15


Audio and video

https://nonlinear-labs.de/demo/demo.html


Interesting concept. On paper, the unique synthesis engine along with all of the flexible realtime control sounds great. But in practice, listening through a bunch of videos, I didn't hear anything that blew me away sound-wise. In fact many of them just sounded like cheesy emulations of other instruments rather than anything unique.
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#2972192 - 01/28/19 12:08 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: J. Dan]
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If I am not mistaken I do believe i heard a demo of this instrument at a previous show. Interesting textures of sounds. Definitely different.

I do believe this is a pretty expensive instrument. The way large corporate instrument companies are beating themselves to death trying to introduce the most bang for the buck synths, I don't know the future of expensive synths.


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#2972195 - 01/28/19 12:17 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: J. Dan]
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I don't mind the sound as much as you do Dan. I rather like some of it, but I take your point.

The C15 reminded me that a lot of the precise synthesis and control we love, isn't really needed to get a musical idea across. Lovely synth of course, but not attractive to rock musicians, (give me a B3) pop musicians (can it keep up with a Kronos) or even a lot of jazz (can it sound like that 73 Suitcase Rhodes) players.

So what do have left? Experimental music. Cross-genre music. Pretty small marketplace. It's why Kurzweil killed the ribbon and Yamaha the breath controller, I think.

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#2972199 - 01/28/19 12:26 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: MotiDave]
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Originally Posted By: MotiDave
The pedal board - not sure on their execution - as he attached it to the stand foot brace, it looks like its going to be a forward reach if you play standing up. I notice in the video that where he's standing as he stepped on it is smack in the middle of the hypothetical keyboard, if there were one on the bottom tier.


I'm trying to refine my pedal solutions for my Apex. I have the extended arms on my lower tier (18in, I think, and 13in on top), and my "pedal point" is about 6in in front of the base of the column. The new stand with its tilted upper tier is interesting, but the pedalboards are a solution to a problem I don't have.

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#2972224 - 01/28/19 01:48 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: drawback]
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Originally Posted By: drawback
Originally Posted By: Reezekeys
Originally Posted By: drawback
[quote=ElmerJFudd]Non-linear labs C15


Audio and video

https://nonlinear-labs.de/demo/demo.html


Does NAMM have a category for Industrial Design? IMO, Best In Show.

OTOH whoever serves the videos from their web site would not qualify as "best", lol. Can't get one to play for more than a few seconds.


For sure!! And when it does play, it's incomprehensibly not musical anyway idk
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I have not had any issues so far with their embedding system. Listening to the Tim Sund Quartet videos. I think it sounds different. That's how I would describe it. Flexible I think. I could see smooth jazz musicians using this, or groups like Snarky Puppy. Unfortunately they don't seem to have anything on YouTube, just Vimeo, which can't be embedded.

Did find this trailer for the concert video on YouTube though.

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#2972227 - 01/28/19 01:54 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mighty Motif Max]
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C15 Specs from their site:

Phase 22 Synthesis Engine

2 Oscillators (sine wave, phase modulation, frequency randomization)
2 Shapers (sine curve, adjustable foldback and asymmetry)
Ring Modulator
Comb Filter (tunable, with allpass and lowpass)
State Variable Filter (multi-mode, 2-4 poles, FM)
Feedback Mixer (4 input signals, shaper for the sum)
Feedback bus with 4 destinations
Output Mixer (stereo, 4 input signals, shaper for the sum)
5 Stereo Effects: Cabinet (amp simulation), 8-pole Gap/Band Filter, Phaser/Flanger/Chorus, Echo, Reverb
3 ADBDSR Envelopes, adjustable attack curve
Velocity sensitivities for envelope levels, attack times, and release times
4 Macro Controls, assignable to up to 86 target parameters
8 Hardware Sources, mappable to the 4 Macro Controls
Number of parameters: 317
Resolution of the parameters: typically 1000 steps (250 ... 15000 steps)
Resolution of key velocity, ribbons, bender, aftertouch, pedals: 4000 steps
20-voice polyphony, variable Unison settings
Scale parameters for micro-tuning the 12 steps of the octave


Parameter Editing

4 Selection panels, each with 24 buttons and LEDs
Labeling by exchangeable magnetic overlays
Edit panel with an OLED display (256 x 64 dots), an incremental encoder, and 18 buttons
The ribbons are also assignable for parameter editing.
User-definable Init preset and Default values
Randomize function
Graphical user interface on any WiFi-enabled device running a browser, unique zoom-and-pan navigation, enabled for touch
Preset System
User-definable banks
Unlimited number of presets per bank
User-editable infos per preset
Search function to find presets by name or tags in the infos
Morphing transition between presets.
Undo System
Unlimited undo for all user interactions, including sound editing steps
Undo list with support for different editing branches (tree view)


Hardware Features


61-key (5 octave) Fatar keybed with semi-weighted long-arm keys
Note-on and note-off velocity sensitivity
Monophonic aftertouch
Two 800 mm touch strips (ribbons), each with 33 LED dots
Ribbon modes: absolute, relative, combinable with return-to-center
Lever (magnetic force loaded) for pitchbending and similar applications
Control panel with an OLED display (128 x 32 dots) and four buttons
Output volume potentiometer (at the front)
Headphone level potentiometer (at the front)
Base unit can be used without panel unit
Magnetic front panel foils can be replaced for future synthesis engines (italics mine)

Connectors

Main audio outputs (L, R) (TRS, balanced by transformers)
Headphone output at the front (TRS)
4 inputs for analog controls, such as pedals (TRS, flexible pin-assignment)
USB host connector for data exchange and software updates

Dimensions

Base unit only: 900 x 290 x 100 mm (width x depth x height)
Including panel unit: 900 x 410 x 160 mm (width x depth x height)

Weight
Base unit: 10.5 kg
Panel unit: 3 kg

"The C15 is a keyboard instrument made for performing musicians. Its character stems from a puristic digital engine which produces a unique palette of sounds seamlessly spanning from organic and acoustic to experimental and electronic.

With its top-quality keybed, dual full-length ribbons, special pitch bender, and four pedal connections the C15 is designed for real-time performance, making it more like a traditional musical instrument than a typical synthesizer. It is resolutely an instrument to be played by musicians, not machines. Therefore it has no MIDI and does not contain LFOs or internal sequencers.

Like many classical instrument builders, we have chosen wood for most of the housing. The rest is made of steel or aluminium. The concept features a two-part design. The compact base unit is for playing and includes all performance elements as well as the sound engine and audio components. It can be easily detached from the panel unit and played autonomously.

The panel unit is for detailed parameter control and sound design. Its haptic layout is based on the principle of muscle memory. In addition, a graphical user interface can be displayed and edited on any device that has a browser and Wi-Fi. This interface is optimized for touch screens and can be intuitively zoomed and panned with common gestures."

So no MIDI. No LFOs??

Not thinking they'll sell too many. Too bad, it sounds neat to me, but without those...:(
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#2972228 - 01/28/19 01:56 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: J. Dan]
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Originally Posted By: J. Dan
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Non-linear labs C15


Audio and video

https://nonlinear-labs.de/demo/demo.html


Interesting concept. On paper, the unique synthesis engine along with all of the flexible realtime control sounds great. But in practice, listening through a bunch of videos, I didn't hear anything that blew me away sound-wise. In fact many of them just sounded like cheesy emulations of other instruments rather than anything unique.


I think with most teams that come together to work on projects like this - you have hardware, firmware/software people and then you have the programmers and artists and crossover between. Presets can make or break a new synth, so hopefully as they move along preset creation becomes a major focus and we can get a better idea of what the instrument is capable of.
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#2972233 - 01/28/19 02:25 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mighty Motif Max]