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#2959326 - 11/23/18 01:25 PM Winter NAMM 2019 Reports
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As most of you know, the 2019 Winter NAMM Show will begin Thursday, January 24th at the Anaheim Convention Center, and run through Sunday, the 27th. Like last year, there are three threads: 1) an advance thread for speculation, wish lists, and early product announcements, or "NAMMticipation" as I like to call it, 2) an advance thread for planning: how to get passes, when and where to meet up with other forum members, etc., and 3) the traditional NAMM Reports thread for product announcements, videos, and reports from members on what and who they saw at the Convention Center.

This, of course, is the traditional NAMM Reports thread.

Please post your Winter NAMM 2019 reports here, for forum members who are not fortunate enough to go to the show.

Feel free to discuss NAMM announced gear, events, and performances in this thread.

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#2965635 - 12/30/18 01:36 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Dear Senior Trade Show Overseer!

As you may remember I'm basically covering the NAMM Show from the guitar player perspective. So should I post my NAMM report here or somewhere else?

Cheers,

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#2965662 - 12/30/18 07:08 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mats Nermark]
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Imo aside from devices that potentially overlap into the keyboard world (certain effects pedals for example) it might be best to start a separate NAMM - Guitar Focus thread. However I don't think anyone's going to get too bent out of shape if you report here.

Good on you for thinking to ask. twothumbs

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#2965759 - 12/30/18 01:35 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Markyboard]
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It's good to see you here, Mats! I certainly want to encourage you to post here as often as you have something relevant to add. Your insight is always valuable. My experience is that we have a moderate tolerance—and sometimes enjoyment—of off-topic threads here, as long as they're labeled "OT:" in the subject heading.

As Mark pointed out, it's likely that there may be some interest from keyboard players in elements of your report; and of course, some of our forum members play both keyboards and guitar. His suggestion of a separate thread is a good idea, and I think it would be great if you could post a link to it in this thread.

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#2966594 - 01/03/19 03:05 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Synclavier Digital Corporation (SDC) is debuting two iOS apps, based on the Synclavier Digital Audio System



Synclavier Go! (for iPad) and Synclavier Pocket! (for iPhone and iPod Touch) re-create the original Synclavier II FM Synthesis engine, with a touch-screen interface inspired by the original hardware. The Synclavier DSP Engine – used by Arturia in its Synclavier V product line – is a faithful recreation of the FM- and Additive-Synthesis functions of the original instrument.

Synclavier Knob is an authentic re-creation of the control knob used in the original Synclavier instrument. This USB-powered version o?ers an unparalleled experience for the sound designer and synthesist, especially when compared to traditional mouse-driven computer interfaces.

Pricing and Availability

The new iOS apps are expected to be available on Jan 23. Pricing is TBA. Availability and pricing for the Synclavier Knob is TBA. Details are still to come at the Synclavier site.
http://www.synclavier.com
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#2966628 - 01/03/19 06:26 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2966629 - 01/03/19 06:27 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Fleer]
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Add $400 for the knob.

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#2966631 - 01/03/19 06:43 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd

Synclavier Knob is an authentic re-creation of the control knob used in the original Synclavier instrument. This USB-powered version o?ers an unparalleled experience for the sound designer and synthesist, especially when compared to traditional mouse-driven computer interfaces.


What's the deal with the knob on a Synclav? I always assumed it was just a data wheel like the Roland Alpha Dial, or the countless variants that have appeared after.
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#2966809 - 01/04/19 02:27 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Fleer]
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Add $400 for the knob.


You've got to be kidding me. $400 for a freaking knob?!? The Microsoft Dial is a hundred bucks.

I think who ever made that pricing decision is a knob.

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#2966977 - 01/05/19 09:30 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Franz Schiller]
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Derek Badala of RME will be giving an potentially interesting lecture on Choosing the Right Audio Interface on Friday, January 25, 2019, 12:00pm to 2:00pm, Hilton, Level 4, C2.

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When choosing an audio interface, there are several things to consider to obtain the perfect interface for your needs. With Firewire essentially obsolete, many think that Thunderbolt is the best solution. Is this true? Also, is USB 2.0 still good enough for the latest audio requirements? Is USB 3.0 an alternative? Additionally, there’s a modern-day obstacle—latency! When audio recording transitioned from analog to digital in the 1990s, life became a lot easier for recording engineers—edits, overdubs and effect processing were quicker and more powerful. The downside was the introduction of a new challenge that didn’t exist before in the analog world. In an audio interface, there are several places where latency starts, and each one must be addressed in order to provide low-latency monitoring. We will look at how a complete approach to interface design takes all these bottlenecks into account and can offer a much better experience for the end user.
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#2967043 - 01/05/19 02:54 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Ahem, OT ( short for Off topic )
If you are informally ( as in loosely ) invited to play at a booth... can a suitable keyboard be readily provided by the one who is responsibile for booth?
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#2967056 - 01/05/19 03:30 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mats Nermark]
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Mats, I encourage you to post anything here that is not specifically for guitar. A great example would be small reviews of the many creative Electro-Harmonix pedals, which are often useful for keyboardists. Everyone has to be a virtual producer to some extent, so any new item might end up being a welcome addition or problem solver in a rig. Bring it on, please. like
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#2967410 - 01/07/19 07:29 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: David Emm]
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Hmmm - Monday, January 8 and very little “leaks”, buzz, rumors from the keyboard developers. We’re in a holding pattern.
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#2967432 - 01/07/19 08:27 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Casio just posted a Privia teaser video on FB.
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#2967434 - 01/07/19 08:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: SteveCoscia]
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Here's the link to the video:

New Privia teaser.


Edited by BluMunk (01/07/19 08:32 AM)

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#2967443 - 01/07/19 09:00 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: BluMunk]
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Pretty, pretty, pretty good.

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#2967446 - 01/07/19 09:10 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: BluMunk]
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Originally Posted By: BluMunk
Here's the link to the video:

New Privia teaser.


Here you go:
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#2967470 - 01/07/19 11:11 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mike Martin]
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Looks like 88 keys :-(

Cheers, Mike.
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#2967471 - 01/07/19 11:19 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: stoken6]
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The year of the big knob?
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#2967522 - 01/07/19 02:06 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Delaware Dave]
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The year of the big knob?

Very likely. wink
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#2967570 - 01/07/19 05:23 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mike Martin]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Martin
Originally Posted By: BluMunk
Here's the link to the video:

New Privia teaser.


Here you go:


Thank you, Mike! Great way to kick this thread off!
The controls and feedback under the faceplate does look slick and stylish.
I’m thinking really nice for living room instruments and venue installs on console type instruments. Slim as well... practice rooms and apartments. interest peaked!
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#2967683 - 01/08/19 07:57 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Pop Strings UK - QUpArts

"Q Up Arts releases Pop Strings UK. This amazing collection features the cellist and violinist from Sam Smith's touring band. Wav files of cello, violin plus Simon Tew's hip hop beats round out a killer collection for producers, songwriters and singers."

https://www.quparts.com/Pop-Strings-UK-p/popstrg1.htm

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#2967789 - 01/08/19 04:29 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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You guys probably posted this already. I receive newsletters from Roland. This one came today:

Introducing the GO:PIANO88 released at CES 2019

https://www.roland.com/us/products/gopia...tm_medium=email




Edited by Sam CA (01/08/19 04:30 PM)
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#2967809 - 01/08/19 06:10 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mike Martin]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Martin
Originally Posted By: BluMunk
Here's the link to the video:

New Privia teaser.


Here you go:


I'm in!
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#2968229 - 01/10/19 04:34 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: PianoManChuck]
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Strymon Announces Volante Magnetic Echo Machine

https://www.strymon.net/products/volante/

My 200A is going to love this love
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#2968276 - 01/10/19 08:34 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Strymon Announces Volante Magnetic Echo Machine

https://www.strymon.net/products/volante/

My 200A is going to love this love


like

My Minimoog and OB Xpander will love it too !

Stereo inputs accepting line level, presets and MIDI control is what I always wanted from vintage sounding stomp box FX.
I miss these sounds since I sold the Binson Echorec, Roland RE-501 and a Korg tape echo and replaced w/ rackmount digital delays.

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#2968383 - 01/11/19 01:24 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mike Martin]
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Looks great, Mike. I'll come by and share (steal) chops from you again ;-)
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#2968387 - 01/11/19 01:40 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Strymon Announces Volante Magnetic Echo Machine

https://www.strymon.net/products/volante/

My 200A is going to love this love


meant to add this earlier

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#2968409 - 01/11/19 04:33 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Dexibell says they are showing three new products at 2019 NAMM.

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#2968427 - 01/11/19 07:32 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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Not to take away from Strymons incredible quality and proper impedence for Dual TS, but Timeline has this algorithm and a few options.
It’s not as souped up as this Pedal but it does far more in terms of variety

Same for Mobius too. Leslie’s, phasers, chorused, pitch shift, vibratos, pattern flanges, etc,etc.
I bought the Deco, Mobius, Timeline and Big Sky.
Keyboard guys only need Mobius and Timelie.
Timeline gets killer Tape Reverbs, etc.

You’ll notice no glitching on Strymon FX when modulating time on delays, or modulstupion fox, and you can alter size and decay with no zippers.
That’s impressive and make for great ducking effects and reverse Algol full wet are from lower the Hell.
Even the looper live from buttons on my K4 is just fantastic.

Don’t let me dust your buzz about the Strymon, but I would have appreciated if someone told me Timeline can do Big Sky, or Mobius can Dual Deco.



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#2968429 - 01/11/19 08:17 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: hardware]
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Originally Posted By: hardware
Not to take away from Strymons incredible quality and proper impedence for Dual TS, but Timeline has this algorithm and a few options.


I hear you, Heywood. I just dig this as it does spring reverb and tape delay in one pedal. Exactly what I was looking for. Similar to the Boss RE-20, but with more choices.
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#2968465 - 01/12/19 08:11 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Kronos SE baby.
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#2968466 - 01/12/19 08:18 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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Where you seeing this, CEB?
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#2968467 - 01/12/19 08:23 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Secret stuff. LOL.
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#2968470 - 01/12/19 08:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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Nah. An advertisement was on on Kapro's Facebook wall. It was removed pretty quickly. The ad said " Kapro EXs272 comes with Korg Kronos SE" but all the other Kronos users can buy it from the Korg Kronos Shop"

I don't know what the SE is. Could be a cheaper shitty plastic Kronos or it could be a normal Kronos in a different color with new Libraries .... Who know. Could actually be new hardware. No idea.

As usual I don't know anything.


Edited by CEB (01/12/19 08:39 AM)
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#2968471 - 01/12/19 08:37 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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Kronos with mini keys. wink
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#2968472 - 01/12/19 08:41 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Kurt. You on the forum and willing to spill the beans?
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#2968473 - 01/12/19 08:51 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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Hope to hell the SE (If there really is an SE) a 76/73 semi-weighted version. Not holding my breath though.

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#2968475 - 01/12/19 09:03 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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Nah. An advertisement was on on Kapro's Facebook wall. It was removed pretty quickly. The ad said " Kapro EXs272 comes with Korg Kronos SE" but all the other Kronos users can buy it from the Korg Kronos Shop"



So much for an NDA, wink I think human error is great
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#2968477 - 01/12/19 09:14 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: GregC]
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The leak only helps to generate preNAMM buzz - if which there has been very little.
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#2968478 - 01/12/19 09:24 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
The leak only helps to generate preNAMM buzz - if which there has been very little.


I noticed. Us Korg followers don't handle a vacuum of silence very well [or its just me].

Plus its sort of boring when there is no real news.
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#2968481 - 01/12/19 10:05 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: hardware]
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Originally Posted By: hardware

... Strymons ... Timeline has this algorithm and a few options.


I want the drum- and the tape-echo variants plus looper,- and because I don´t own any Strymon up to now,- this new toy might be the only one I´ll buy.

Mobious is a interesting box too, no question, but for the time being I still have rackmount analog stereo chorus flangers (and some reverbs/multiFX as well).

I guess the Strymon Volante will cost EUR 499,- @Thoman,- at least cheaper than vintage Roland and Korg echos, chorus and spring reverbs.

A.C.

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#2968483 - 01/12/19 10:24 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Al Coda]
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There’s also that T-Rex replicator which has a certain tone and vibe to it. Although this Strymon looks a lot more useful.

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#2968491 - 01/12/19 10:50 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2968500 - 01/12/19 11:25 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Al Coda]
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Originally Posted By: Al Coda
Originally Posted By: hardware

... Strymons ... Timeline has this algorithm and a few options.


I want the drum- and the tape-echo variants plus looper,- and because I don´t own any Strymon up to now,- this new toy might be the only one I´ll buy.

Mobious is a interesting box too, no question, but for the time being I still have rackmount analog stereo chorus flangers (and some reverbs/multiFX as well).

I guess the Strymon Volante will cost EUR 499,- @Thoman,- at least cheaper than vintage Roland and Korg echos, chorus and spring reverbs.

A.C.


I listened to all of the demos and conclude I might get it just because Strymons are just incredible sounding units for synths.
Guitars sound OK but using SpaceF Router and Bus Mixer your keys become the effect. It’s really surprising how well these work live too.

Notice how I stick them in between the router and mixer, using FireWire Insert Modules.
This means 100% wet reverse loops are really what they say they are.
You play 4 beats ahead and join in the fun, or play above the reverse loops.
Sick shit no doubt.

I might stick in on the dry channel since it’s not really necessary.
Just a rack of FX MIDI Controlled where you send whatever audio you want anywhere in real time.



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#2968534 - 01/12/19 01:50 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: hardware
Not to take away from Strymons incredible quality and proper impedence for Dual TS, but Timeline has this algorithm and a few options.


I hear you, Heywood. I just dig this as it does spring reverb and tape delay in one pedal. Exactly what I was looking for. Similar to the Boss RE-20, but with more choices.


Strymon's earlier pedal El Capistan is also a tape delay w/ spring reverb.
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#2968541 - 01/12/19 02:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Another Korg "leak" - the Minilogue XD

https://www.reddit.com/r/synthesizers/comments/aav9dq/the_korg_minilogue_xd_has_been_leaked/

I believe "XD" is used by kids 18 years and under to express laughter, so...
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#2968545 - 01/12/19 02:59 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: GovernorSilver]
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Not to take away from Strymons incredible quality and proper impedence for Dual TS, but Timeline has this algorithm and a few options.


I hear you, Heywood. I just dig this as it does spring reverb and tape delay in one pedal. Exactly what I was looking for. Similar to the Boss RE-20, but with more choices.


Strymon's earlier pedal El Capistan is also a tape delay w/ spring reverb.


true, Paolo. However one of the "more choices" I was referring to is stereo inputs, which the El Capistan doesn't have. It is almost half the price though. thu
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#2968549 - 01/12/19 03:50 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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Dexibell says they are showing three new products at 2019 NAMM.


Perhaps its a Dexibell Vivo S7 Pro ?



I like it to have the TP400W action but with all the functionality of the S7 instead of the S9

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#2968552 - 01/12/19 04:17 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: halhertz]
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Originally Posted By: halhertz
Originally Posted By: Radagast
Dexibell says they are showing three new products at 2019 NAMM.


Perhaps its a Dexibell Vivo S7 Pro ?



I like it to have the TP400W action but with all the functionality of the S7 instead of the S9


A Dexibell video on FB says Dexibell is going blue, whatever that means, and has the words “pro stage piano”.


Edited by Radagast (01/12/19 04:18 PM)

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#2968553 - 01/12/19 04:33 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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A Dexibell video on FB says Dexibell is going blue, whatever that means, and has the words “pro stage piano”.


I think this means that they'll be introducing new keyboards that use the same blue shell as the Vivo S9 as opposed to the greyish shells used by the Vivo S7 and Vivo P series digital pianos.Just speculation on my part. Though this Vivo S7 Pro teaser seems to somewhat confirm this

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#2968587 - 01/12/19 08:24 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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There’s also that T-Rex replicator which has a certain tone and vibe to it. Although this Strymon looks a lot more useful.


Well, not everyone liked the T-Rex Replicator.
Meanwhile, the company achieved the right to bear the "Binson Echorec" name, work(ed) on a replica of the real deal and announced @NAMM 2017 already.

I owned the Binson Echorec PE 603 TU
When I sold it for cheap, I had no chance to get it serviced or repaired anymore.

These were very special sounding machines and not comparable to tape echo/delay.

Anyway,- I´m not interested to get a 1:1 mechanical replica of that machine.
Modern technology is o.k. for me when reliable built,- and it seems Strymon did everything I want and combine w/ 2 different tape echo modes, spring reverb and looper.
For me, that´s 5 machines in one box I can use w/ any mono- or stereo- output single instrument, in any FX loop or as an Aux-FX device.

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#2968660 - 01/13/19 10:33 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Al Coda]
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#2968662 - 01/13/19 10:38 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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“Novation... has prepared a special treat for attendees of this year’s NAMM Show – the “Novation Arcade,” set up at the company’s exhibition booth, #10506.”
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#2968663 - 01/13/19 10:40 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Novation announce SL MkIII flagship hardware and software controller. $699.99



https://novationmusic.com/keys/sl-mkiii
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#2968694 - 01/13/19 04:43 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2968695 - 01/13/19 04:48 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: halhertz]
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Originally Posted By: Radagast
Dexibell says they are showing three new products at 2019 NAMM.


Perhaps its a Dexibell Vivo S7 Pro ?



I like it to have the TP400W action but with all the functionality of the S7 instead of the S9


Dexibell added a comment to the youtube video detailing more info about the VIVO S7 Pro

Quote:

S7 PRO share same technology of actual S7 with several major improvements:
- Better Keyboard: TP 40 Graded Hammer Action Keyboard
- Professional Outputs : 2-XLR balanced + 2-¼” Jack Unbalanced
- 4 parts - 4 pedal inputs
- 8 independent EFX (2 x each part)
- Cosmetics and wooden side panels from S9
- New Human interface derived from S9
- DC-IN with security lock
- DEXIBELL Continuous Sustain Pedal included

That's why it is still called S7 with the addition of PRO

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#2968731 - 01/13/19 11:02 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: hardware]
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Never tried any Styrmon effects with my Keys, should this drum delay be the one to start with?


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#2968734 - 01/14/19 12:23 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Quai34]
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#2968750 - 01/14/19 06:05 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: halhertz]
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Originally Posted By: halhertz
Casio SDP-100



At about 00:54 and 1:26, the midrange notes sounded like short looped samples. I hope I’m wrong.

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#2968757 - 01/14/19 06:16 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I'd like to see a new Kronos replacement... with the same design as the Oasys. Nice big screen. laugh
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#2968761 - 01/14/19 06:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Quai34]
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Never tried any Styrmon effects with my Keys, should this drum delay be the one to start with?


At least for all your keys and modules not offering internal FX it makes sense.

smile

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#2968765 - 01/14/19 06:58 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: hardware]
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... Strymons are just incredible sounding units for synths ... using SpaceF Router & Bus Mixer ...


What´s so special w/ the SpaceF mixers in SCOPE,- except they are modular design ?
Are they urgently necessary for outboard FX integration into SCOPE and using AD/DA ?

Originally Posted By: hardware

Notice how I stick them in between the router and mixer, using FireWire Insert Modules.


You mean XITE´s Z-Link bus you use for AD/DA,- no ?

Originally Posted By: hardware

I might stick in on the dry channel since it’s not really necessary.


Yes, I wondered why there´s the "dry channel" at all.
The Strymons offer "true" hardware bypass AFAIK.

Originally Posted By: hardware

Just a rack of FX MIDI Controlled where you send whatever audio you want anywhere in real time.


That´s very flexible,- provided that there´s SCOPE/XITE in the ballpark.

I guess, you and me, we´re the only forumites using it.

But instead using several stompbox-type FX boxes, I´d wish Strymon came up w/ a 1HU rack unit combining at least Mobious, Volante and BigSky, offering dedicated audio I/Os, MIDI trio and USB.

I can dream ...


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#2968768 - 01/14/19 07:08 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: GovernorSilver


Strymon's earlier pedal El Capistan is also a tape delay w/ spring reverb.


true, Paolo. However one of the "more choices" I was referring to is stereo inputs, which the El Capistan doesn't have. It is almost half the price though. thu


Ah fair enough. The couple of times I've heard the El Capistan used live with a synth, it sounded great to me.

I apologize in advance if this hurts anybody's eyes, but I'm a Dreadbox fan - their upcoming FX box appears to have real spring reverb, digital delay, and analog BBD section for chorus/flange:

https://www.dreadbox-fx.com/hypnosis/


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#2968801 - 01/14/19 09:16 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Synthoid]
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I'd like to see a new Kronos replacement... with the same design as the Oasys. Nice big screen. laugh


or better yet, how much more would it cost to have a video out jack? I don't own one, is there a dedicated Vid jack on them now?
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#2968803 - 01/14/19 09:21 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: seanl]
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Someone mentioned Strymon. I've got a Big Sky. What moron in their design dept puts 1/16th white text and drops it on a light blue anodized case. That's supposed to be a foot operated, right?

Love the sound, not AT ALL impressed for the build quality for the price. Every LED light is burnt out (faded out over time) surrounding the upper left rotating knob.

Ok, I did not mean to thread-jack...
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#2968918 - 01/14/19 07:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: seanl]
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#2968925 - 01/14/19 08:13 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mike Martin]
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Originally Posted By: BluMunk
Here's the link to the video:

New Privia teaser.


Here you go:


This has my radar on alert.
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#2968937 - 01/14/19 09:28 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Jazz+]
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#2968938 - 01/14/19 09:30 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2968940 - 01/14/19 09:31 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2968948 - 01/14/19 10:06 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Edited by GovernorSilver (01/14/19 10:11 PM)
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#2968966 - 01/15/19 04:26 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: GovernorSilver]
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I LOVE that Volca Modular! A little box of West-Coast joy, packed with neat features.
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#2968990 - 01/15/19 07:45 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: GovernorSilver]
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lotta bang for the buck here
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#2968993 - 01/15/19 07:59 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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Originally Posted By: halhertz
Casio SDP-100


At about 00:54 and 1:26, the midrange notes sounded like short looped samples. I hope I’m wrong.

It's a budget instrument, so I'm not surprised.
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#2969004 - 01/15/19 08:42 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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There's also a CDP-S350:

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/

https://www.gear4music.com/news/article/.../7N0/2019-01-14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPLzQcB5CI4

EDIT -- Sorry, I didn't realize that the YouTube page isn't a video, just a still image! razz

EDIT 2 -- And I was just looking for the manual at the Casio Music site, and there's also a CDP-S150 listed under the manuals search.


Edited by SeaGtGruff (01/15/19 08:54 AM)
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#2969028 - 01/15/19 09:26 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Macsaint777]
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The new CP





https://yamahamusicians.com/yamaha-new-c...5dVHFJVfWRv25Bk

Assuming it has the same CFX and Bosendorfer samples as the Montage/MODX, I may just want to ditch my MODX8 and get a 7 on top of one of these CP’s.
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#2969029 - 01/15/19 09:30 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Macsaint777]
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The Yamaha new looks interesting, kind of like the MP11 with the wooden action. I'm curious what the weight is. I don't see that listed in the specs.

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CP88 features Natural Wood Graded Hammer (NW-GH) and hence an authentic grand piano feel, making it the ideal choice for piano purists. CP73 offers 73 equally weighted keys for keyboarders playing with a larger number of different sounds on stage.


Hmm a 73 key too!


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#2969031 - 01/15/19 09:33 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Toano88]
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It weighs 41 lbs for the 88
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#2969034 - 01/15/19 09:35 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Macsaint777]
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Not bad at all for a wooden action! The Kawai MP-11se is 75lbs!
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#2969038 - 01/15/19 09:46 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Toano88]
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Looks like Yamaha is going after Nord's territory with the 1-to-1 UI on the CP88 and CP73.

This is very interesting to me as Yamaha has also been at the forefront of the upcoming next-gen MIDI spec and with the updatable OS it should be relatively future proof. Also includes a built-in MIDI interface and audio in.


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#2969046 - 01/15/19 10:33 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: tfort]
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#2969055 - 01/15/19 11:16 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: zephonic]
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The new CP

...

https://yamahamusicians.com/yamaha-new-c...5dVHFJVfWRv25Bk

Assuming it has the same CFX and Bosendorfer samples as the Montage/MODX, I may just want to ditch my MODX8 and get a 7 on top of one of these CP’s.


Looking good. Can hardly wait to try the keybed!
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#2969057 - 01/15/19 11:27 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: tfort]
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Looks like Yamaha is going after Nord's territory with the 1-to-1 UI on the CP88 and CP73.


They listened to me and put the knobs and switches from the Reface CP on their new stage piano. grin
Interesting take on pitch and mod, more Nord like for sure than wheels.
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#2969061 - 01/15/19 11:31 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Sam CA]
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Keybed is basically what is on the P515, without escapement, and with triple sensors. It is NOT the same as the CP4.
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#2969066 - 01/15/19 11:35 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Macsaint777]
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That doesn't sound like an improvement but .... I played the 515 side by side with the CP300. The CP300 is lovely.


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#2969068 - 01/15/19 11:43 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: tfort
Looks like Yamaha is going after Nord's territory with the 1-to-1 UI on the CP88 and CP73.


They listened to me and put the knobs and switches from the Reface CP on their new stage piano. grin
Interesting take on pitch and mod, more Nord like for sure than wheels.


I think Yamaha will sell quite a few of these. And the expanding library concept is a big plus. To an extent they're moving into Nord's territory; however, they're still staying away from a drawbar-style interface for the organ tones. But for a stage piano with world-class pianos, some electro-mechanical keys and supporting synth tones, it looks to a very strong contender. Sounds great so far.
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#2969070 - 01/15/19 11:45 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: allan_evett]
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[ deleted so people stop using this thread to talk about the CP88 ]


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#2969076 - 01/15/19 12:01 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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[ deleted so people stop using this thread to talk about the CP88 ]


Edited by Mark Schmieder (01/15/19 03:48 PM)
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#2969089 - 01/15/19 12:21 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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See the new dedicated thread for further discussion of Yamaha CP88/CP73, so this thread doesn't get bogged down with what is likely to be the biggest product announcement at NAMM (from this forum's perspective, barring any organ or synth surprises):

http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads...the#Post2969072

It is a bit surprising to see January as a Digital Piano product rollout month -- although I think that was when the original CP-1/CP-5/CP-50 got released.
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#2969093 - 01/15/19 12:23 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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lotta bang for the buck here


Agreed, even without the 3rd party custom oscillators.

Volca Modular looks similarly stunning in bang for the buck - they managed to squeeze a decent reverb into there.
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#2969136 - 01/15/19 03:17 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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#2969138 - 01/15/19 03:19 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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There's also that vendor in England whose name I forget -- I think it starts with a "B"? -- who tends to do by far the most informative videos and tutorials of anyone. I'll look it up once home, if no one posts in the meantime.


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#2969143 - 01/15/19 03:40 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: SeaGtGruff]
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Hey guys, the discussion moved to its own topic for CP-88/CP-73. All questions and follow-up are already resolved there. We need to keep this NAMM discussion free from bloat on a mega-product announcement that already has its own dedicated thread.

http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads...the#Post2969072

I have deleted and moved my earlier comments to try to nip this in the bud.


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#2969214 - 01/16/19 01:00 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Kronos SE is red. There is a new 'Italian' Grand plus the new KApro sound set from Kurt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p_idBuKirk

https://www.korg.com/us/products/synthesizers/kronos2/#se

And no it probably doesn't need another thread. It's red. Just like the platinum one and the black one. Big whoop. I liked the platinum better. Better for low light environments.

" * All specifications other than color, Italian piano, and KApro sounds are identical to the standard model of the KRONOS"


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#2969238 - 01/16/19 05:28 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: CEB]
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" * All specifications other than color, Italian piano, and KApro sounds are identical to the standard model of the KRONOS"

I'm kind of surprised they did not add the transistor organ engine that they developed for the Continental/Grandstage.

I'm glad to see another color on the 61, to help address the stage visibility of the usual black-on-black design.
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#2969246 - 01/16/19 06:17 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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Eh,it's just a limited edition paint job.



"The KRONOS SE includes a standard new Italian piano PCM, based on the Italian sounds featured in the KORG Grandstage. These special edition sounds coincide with the release of KApro’s sound library “KApro Showcase”; featuring more than 100 titles to compose and perform extraordinary music.

In addition to the remarkable new sounds, the KRONOS SE is designed with its signature high impact front panel, in a beautiful red and black finish, perfect for players looking to add a little flare to their keyboard rig."
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#2969262 - 01/16/19 07:20 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Thread is already going for this, but I thought it should get a mention here anyways to keep things together.

Korg Krome EX: https://www.korg.com/us/products/synthesizers/krome_ex/




So far it seems to be a Krome with more sounds added.


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#2969301 - 01/16/19 09:56 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Eh,it's just a limited edition paint job.



"The KRONOS SE includes a standard new Italian piano PCM, based on the Italian sounds featured in the KORG Grandstage."


Does it mean that new Italian Grand is PCM and not SGX-2 based as in the Grandstage? And that colour ... would probably irritate me if I look at it for too long. looks like this year will be Yamaha's year, not Korg's.
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#2969306 - 01/16/19 10:26 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: gg22]
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Does it mean that new Italian Grand is PCM and not SGX-2 based as in the Grandstage? And that colour ... would probably irritate me if I look at it for too long. looks like this year will be Yamaha's year, not Korg's.


In the very short intro video it shows the SGX screen while the person plays the Italian grand. All SGX pianos are sample/PCM-based. You can load any of the Kronos SGX pianos into HD-1, though you lose quite a bit in the process.

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#2969307 - 01/16/19 10:29 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: gg22]
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I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.
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#2969308 - 01/16/19 10:30 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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Daniel Fisher video on the Minilogue xd. I didn't realize it has the FXs from the Prologue. In many ways, it's a poor man's Prologue.



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#2969309 - 01/16/19 10:31 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Toano88]
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I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.


It does look odd. Maybe it's one of those things that looks better in person, don't know.

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#2969311 - 01/16/19 10:48 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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Daniel Fisher video on the Minilogue xd. I didn't realize it has the FXs from the Prologue. In many ways, it's a poor man's Prologue.



Busch.


Impressive. Didn't expect such a huge sounds coming out of this little keyboard.
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#2969312 - 01/16/19 10:51 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Toano88]
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I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.

Reminds me of the ill-fated (and poorly named, IMO) Ensoniq Fizmo.



eek facepalm

Korg chose to go with kind of a Nord red highlight though...can we call it a Norg? idk grin

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#2969315 - 01/16/19 11:02 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Originally Posted By: Toano88
I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.

Reminds me of the ill-fated (and poorly named, IMO) Ensoniq Fizmo.



eek facepalm

Korg chose to go with kind of a Nord red highlight though...can we call it a Norg? idk grin

dB


Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC
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#2969316 - 01/16/19 11:04 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: jimkost2002]
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#2969320 - 01/16/19 11:19 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: jimkost2002]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Originally Posted By: Toano88
I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.

Reminds me of the ill-fated (and poorly named, IMO) Ensoniq Fizmo.



eek facepalm

Korg chose to go with kind of a Nord red highlight though...can we call it a Norg? idk grin

dB


Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC

Fizmos? If so, not surprising. Actually a pretty cool instrument with interesting technology (at the time, especially).

Too bad it was so funny looking and had such an odd name. rolleyes
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#2969342 - 01/16/19 01:38 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Originally Posted By: Toano88
I guess they only had so much red paint. It looks like over spray.

Reminds me of the ill-fated (and poorly named, IMO) Ensoniq Fizmo.



eek facepalm

Korg chose to go with kind of a Nord red highlight though...can we call it a Norg? idk grin

dB


That was my immediate thought as well. "Those who don't learn are doomed to repeat, yadda yadda" snax

Korg really has a thing for cosmetic repackaging to claim a special edition, don't they?
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#2969344 - 01/16/19 01:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: gg22]
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The SGX-2 engine uses PCM. Just not in the HD-1 voice architecture.

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Originally Posted By: gg22
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Eh,it's just a limited edition paint job.



"The KRONOS SE includes a standard new Italian piano PCM, based on the Italian sounds featured in the KORG Grandstage."


Does it mean that new Italian Grand is PCM and not SGX-2 based as in the Grandstage? And that colour ... would probably irritate me if I look at it for too long. looks like this year will be Yamaha's year, not Korg's.

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#2969351 - 01/16/19 02:39 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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Daniel Fisher video on the Minilogue xd.


putting Daniel Fisher in front of a synth is like putting Joey DeFrancesco in front of a clonewheel. Just makes you need to buy it. cool
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#2969354 - 01/16/19 02:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: jimkost2002]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Fizmos? If so, not surprising. Actually a pretty cool instrument with interesting technology (at the time, especially).


Originally Posted By: jimkost2002

Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC


couldn't sell them when they were new 20 years ago, nobody wanted it. Wonder how the parts/repairs department is holding up?
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#2969437 - 01/17/19 05:02 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: MAJUSCULE]
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Korg really has a thing for cosmetic repackaging to claim a special edition, don't they?


Remember the X50 "Camo Edition?" Looks like someone threw up on it...
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#2969483 - 01/17/19 08:08 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Fizmos? If so, not surprising. Actually a pretty cool instrument with interesting technology (at the time, especially).


Originally Posted By: jimkost2002

Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC


couldn't sell them when they were new 20 years ago, nobody wanted it. Wonder how the parts/repairs department is holding up?

I used to have two Fizmos in my attic. Both gone now for spare parts.
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#2969495 - 01/17/19 08:49 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Fizmos? If so, not surprising. Actually a pretty cool instrument with interesting technology (at the time, especially).


Originally Posted By: jimkost2002

Yeah, db, horrible name, but people are snapping them up here in NYC


couldn't sell them when they were new 20 years ago, nobody wanted it. Wonder how the parts/repairs department is holding up?


Perhaps the synth biz is more like running a distillery than a technology company -- plans for high end boutique products have to include 20 years of barrel aging.

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#2969512 - 01/17/19 09:31 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Zalman Stern]
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I have been seriously hoping for years that Casio will finally make a digital piano that I will want to support.

I am NOT going to be able to make it to NAMM this year - no one took me up on my offer of to and from cartage from LAX to Anaheim in exchange for a pass. Your loss.

Back to Casio. The new Yamaha P- 515 is going to give it some SERIOUS competition, at least in the amplified digital piano category. I hope they are up to the challenge.

The P 515 has five or six very good digital piano samples including CFX and Bosendorfer. Not to mention - finally - some very good Rhodes and Wurli samples.

The internal amplification system gets up and SPEAKS. Add a subwoofer to this and the output competes with a grand piano. It may be possible to gig this and not have to bring any more than a small subwoofer - for solo gigs and jazz trio etc. at least.

Price point is 1500 dollars, so at a 10 to 15 percent sale, roughly 1300 - 1350

So I am hoping Casio is up to this.

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#2969529 - 01/17/19 10:52 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: LX88]
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Yamaha's P515 DIGITAL PIANO weighs 48.5 pounds. That's too heavy for me to move around with. My Casio PX360 is 26 pounds and I am looking to get a lighter model with the new casios. A 73 key Casio with an aluminum base, onboard monitors, that weighs ~ 19 pounds would be awesome.
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#2969537 - 01/17/19 11:28 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: LX88]
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The new Yamaha P- 515 is going to give it some SERIOUS competition, at least in the amplified digital piano category.


A friend just recorded this on his P-515. Just going on the video, it sounds to have more warmth then my CP4. Too heavy for most gig schleps but perfect for me at home. Would love to get out of headphone mode in the office and drive my wife nuts transposing lines and voicings to all keys... poke...can you go outside to the studio to do that stuff !! cry



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#2969600 - 01/17/19 03:01 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Jazz+]
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My Casio PX360 is 26 pounds and I am looking to get a lighter model with the new casios. A 73 key Casio with an aluminum base, onboard monitors, that weighs ~ 19 pounds would be awesome.


You might be interested in checking out the CDP-S350, although it’s 88 keys, not 73. You can download the manuals for it from Casio’s web site, although I don’t think it’s been officially unveiled yet— any day now, though!

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/%22/

Looks like no MIDI DIN ports, if that matters to you; and polyphony is a bit low for a digital piano— 64 notes, 32 for certain tones. But it has a goodly number of tones, and responds to MIDI messages for Attack/Release, Cutoff/Resonance, Portamento, etc., so I’m definitely interested in giving it a hard look. smile


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#2969609 - 01/17/19 03:34 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: SeaGtGruff]
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How much do MIDI DIN ports cost to add in? There have been a few budget, light weight, 73 key'd pianos released recently that would have been perfect for a bottom slave board, but alas, no MIDI ports. Surely companies realise the market they miss out on by not including them?
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#2969625 - 01/17/19 04:28 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: N4dr0j]
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#2969629 - 01/17/19 04:44 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Stylophone Gen R-8


sounds great. Always wanted a Stylophone but never needed one. Would be cool to have but at $350.00 US dollars I have to pass for now. Bet it will do well.
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#2969630 - 01/17/19 04:45 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Stylophohe Gen-R8



This video gave me headache, I wish I didn't see it.
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#2969632 - 01/17/19 04:47 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: gg22]
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Stylophohe Gen-R8



This video gave me headache, I wish I didn't see it.


try taking a nap, maybe that will help. wink
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#2969674 - 01/17/19 09:12 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: davedoerfler]
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At this year's NAMM show, Deskew Technologies will be debuting Version 3 of Gig Performer, their VST/VST3/AU live performance plug-in host for Mac and Windows systems.

At the Anaheim Convention Center, January 24-27, live demonstrations of Gig Performer 3.0 will be presented at Ilio (ACC Hall A, booth #11910) and TASCAM (ACC North Hall #18910). Gig Performer 3 adds a bevy of powerful new capabilities, especially to the program's control features.

Gig Performer 3 supports set lists consisting of songs along with song parts that can be accessed directly from controllers or MIDI pedalboards. Song parts allow rackspaces to be reused. For example, a single rackspace containing an acoustic piano sound can be reused to cover 10 songs needing piano.

Gig Performer 3 adds support for the Chord Pro lead sheet format. This allows Chord Pro documents to be created, edited, and linked to songs in a setlist so a chords-and-lyrics chart can be opened when a song is selected.

Remote access has been enhanced significantly to support songs and parts from your iPad or Android device running Lemur. Bidirectional MIDI support for widgets facilitates the use of MIDI control surfaces.

Version 3 also introduces the ability to synchronize Gig Performer with other applications on a wireless network, using Ableton Link.

Numerous other functions and workflow enhancements are included in Gig Performer 3. Gig Performer 3 will be available on January 24th, 2019 and upgrade pricing will be provided shortly.

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#2969698 - 01/18/19 03:26 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: N4dr0j]
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How much do MIDI DIN ports cost to add in? There have been a few budget, light weight, 73 key'd pianos released recently that would have been perfect for a bottom slave board, but alas, no MIDI ports. Surely companies realise the market they miss out on by not including them?


I don't know about cost, but it seems like keyboards which are aimed at home users rather than gigging performers tend to have USB-MIDI only, so I guess Casio isn't targeting these new CDP models at gigging performers.

It's no big deal to me, because I'm strictly a home user and I usually keep my keyboards connected to my desktop computer via USB anyway, so my computer does all of the MIDI routing and processing that I need.

But I know that some home users won't seriously consider adding a 'board to their setup unless it has MIDI DIN ports so they can directly connect it to other equipment.
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#2969704 - 01/18/19 04:14 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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At this year's NAMM show, Deskew Technologies will be debuting Version 3 of Gig Performer, their VST/VST3/AU live performance plug-in host for Mac and Windows systems.

At the Anaheim Convention Center, January 24-27, live demonstrations of Gig Performer 3.0 will be presented at Ilio (ACC Hall A, booth #11910) and TASCAM (ACC North Hall #18910). Gig Performer 3 adds a bevy of powerful new capabilities, especially to the program's control features.

Gig Performer 3 supports set lists consisting of songs along with song parts that can be accessed directly from controllers or MIDI pedalboards. Song parts allow rackspaces to be reused. For example, a single rackspace containing an acoustic piano sound can be reused to cover 10 songs needing piano.

Gig Performer 3 adds support for the Chord Pro lead sheet format. This allows Chord Pro documents to be created, edited, and linked to songs in a setlist so a chords-and-lyrics chart can be opened when a song is selected.

Remote access has been enhanced significantly to support songs and parts from your iPad or Android device running Lemur. Bidirectional MIDI support for widgets facilitates the use of MIDI control surfaces.

Version 3 also introduces the ability to synchronize Gig Performer with other applications on a wireless network, using Ableton Link.

Numerous other functions and workflow enhancements are included in Gig Performer 3. Gig Performer 3 will be available on January 24th, 2019 and upgrade pricing will be provided shortly.


Be interested to see more on this. I like MainStage but have always been tempted by Gig Performer...
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#2969706 - 01/18/19 04:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: nursers]
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At this stage so close to NAMM, is it unlikely that we'll now hear any new announcements from the "big guys"?
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#2969711 - 01/18/19 05:01 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: N4dr0j]
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Roland is quiet - other than the 88k GoPro. But they’ve been releasing on their special days during the year. 8/08 for example.
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#2969712 - 01/18/19 05:14 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2969713 - 01/18/19 05:17 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Korg Gadget 2 is coming, and you’ll also be able to buy its devices as Mac and PC plugins.


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#2969715 - 01/18/19 05:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I hope they made Gadget more performance-friendly, though I know that's not its focus. The two issues I've posted about before...

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I wish the individual gadgets' presets could be recalled va MIDI Program Change on whichever channel you've assigned them to.
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#2969744 - 01/18/19 07:44 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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I hope they've added ios AU support, and are leaving it as a surprise.

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#2969747 - 01/18/19 07:57 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: SeaGtGruff]
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Originally Posted By: N4dr0j
How much do MIDI DIN ports cost to add in? There have been a few budget, light weight, 73 key'd pianos released recently that would have been perfect for a bottom slave board, but alas, no MIDI ports. Surely companies realise the market they miss out on by not including them?


I don't know about cost, but it seems like keyboards which are aimed at home users rather than gigging performers tend to have USB-MIDI only, so I guess Casio isn't targeting these new CDP models at gigging performers.

It's no big deal to me, because I'm strictly a home user and I usually keep my keyboards connected to my desktop computer via USB anyway, so my computer does all of the MIDI routing and processing that I need.

But I know that some home users won't seriously consider adding a 'board to their setup unless it has MIDI DIN ports so they can directly connect it to other equipment.

Pet peeve of mine. I bought a USB mid DIN adaptor for this situation. I posted a thread about this - Scott chimed in and give several other options which I was not aware of,
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#2969758 - 01/18/19 08:32 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
At this year's NAMM show, Deskew Technologies will be debuting Version 3 of Gig Performer, their VST/VST3/AU live performance plug-in host for Mac and Windows systems.


This has me very excited. I love GigPerformer and how it has evolved to it's current state.

The new functionality listed for V3 makes it that much better IMHO.
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#2969831 - 01/18/19 12:34 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: EscapeRocks]
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2 new ones from Dexibell



Edited by SynMike (01/18/19 12:35 PM)
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#2969834 - 01/18/19 12:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: SynMike]
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2 new ones from Dexibell



2 products besides the already announced S7 Pro. According to Piano Man Chuck, Dexibell put out some teaser about having a “Grand” time with them at NAMM.

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#2969908 - 01/18/19 05:06 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Radagast]
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#2969912 - 01/18/19 05:15 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Force from Akai Pro for the Ableton folks



Can run standalone, btw - without computer.
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#2970103 - 01/19/19 06:12 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: SeaGtGruff]
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
My Casio PX360 is 26 pounds and I am looking to get a lighter model with the new casios. A 73 key Casio with an aluminum base, onboard monitors, that weighs ~ 19 pounds would be awesome.


You might be interested in checking out the CDP-S350, although it’s 88 keys, not 73. You can download the manuals for it from Casio’s web site, although I don’t think it’s been officially unveiled yet— any day now, though!

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/%22/

Looks like no MIDI DIN ports, if that matters to you; and polyphony is a bit low for a digital piano— 64 notes, 32 for certain tones. But it has a goodly number of tones, and responds to MIDI messages for Attack/Release, Cutoff/Resonance, Portamento, etc., so I’m definitely interested in giving it a hard look. smile


CDP-S350 video from Jeremy See showed up in my news feed. Not terrible.

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#2970182 - Yesterday at 07:20 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mighty Motif Max]
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Originally Posted By: SeaGtGruff
Originally Posted By: Jazz+
My Casio PX360 is 26 pounds and I am looking to get a lighter model with the new casios. A 73 key Casio with an aluminum base, onboard monitors, that weighs ~ 19 pounds would be awesome.


You might be interested in checking out the CDP-S350, although it’s 88 keys, not 73. You can download the manuals for it from Casio’s web site, although I don’t think it’s been officially unveiled yet— any day now, though!

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/%22/

Looks like no MIDI DIN ports, if that matters to you; and polyphony is a bit low for a digital piano— 64 notes, 32 for certain tones. But it has a goodly number of tones, and responds to MIDI messages for Attack/Release, Cutoff/Resonance, Portamento, etc., so I’m definitely interested in giving it a hard look. smile


CDP-S350 video from Jeremy See showed up in my news feed. Not terrible.



Not sounding great in this video, I’m guessing Camera mic capturing the slim model’s onboard speakers. But very light at 24lbs (without batteries). I assume it’s the same Casio action on PX-160 or no?

USB only no 5pin midi.

Two pedal jacks, not sure how useful:
DAMPER/ASSIGNABLE jack:
Standard jack (Sustain, Sostenuto, Soft, Rhythmus)
PEDAL-UNIT jack:
Proprietary jack (Sustain, Sostenuto, Soft)

But they did include a pitch bend wheel!

Could be nice small and light weight controller.
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#2970199 - Yesterday at 09:11 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I assume it’s the same Casio action on PX-160 or no?

No, a new action.
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#2970201 - Yesterday at 09:15 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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I assume it’s the same Casio action on PX-160 or no?

No, a new action.


Ah that’s too bad. But I guess you can’t get this slim and light with the other.
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#2970281 - Yesterday at 01:40 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Well that CDP-S350 sounds, uhm, limited, or cheap, both actually!

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#2970285 - Yesterday at 02:04 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: Mighty Motif Max
Originally Posted By: SeaGtGruff


You might be interested in checking out the CDP-S350, although it’s 88 keys, not 73. You can download the manuals for it from Casio’s web site, although I don’t think it’s been officially unveiled yet— any day now, though!

https://www.casio-music.com/euro/digitalpianos/compact/cdp-s350/%22/

Looks like no MIDI DIN ports, if that matters to you; and polyphony is a bit low for a digital piano— 64 notes, 32 for certain tones. But it has a goodly number of tones, and responds to MIDI messages for Attack/Release, Cutoff/Resonance, Portamento, etc., so I’m definitely interested in giving it a hard look. smile


CDP-S350 video from Jeremy See showed up in my news feed. Not terrible.



Not sounding great in this video, I’m guessing Camera mic capturing the slim model’s onboard speakers. But very light at 24lbs (without batteries). I assume it’s the same Casio action on PX-160 or no?

USB only no 5pin midi.

Two pedal jacks, not sure how useful:
DAMPER/ASSIGNABLE jack:
Standard jack (Sustain, Sostenuto, Soft, Rhythmus)
PEDAL-UNIT jack:
Proprietary jack (Sustain, Sostenuto, Soft)

But they did include a pitch bend wheel!

Could be nice small and light weight controller.


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Well that CDP-S350 sounds, uhm, limited, or cheap, both actually!

TV


Pretty sure that is a direct signal; notice no room noise, key thumping, breathing, or chair squeaking. His other videos seem to be direct to computer as well.

Not the greatest for sure, but it could be worse. Reminds me of some of their older stage pianos that I tried years ago. Not natural really.


Edited by Mighty Motif Max (Yesterday at 02:07 PM)
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#2970316 - Yesterday at 05:10 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Korg Kross SE. Found it accidentally when looking at the downloads section on Korg USA.

Thought it was the Kross 2 until I found out that the Kross 2 is simply called "Kross" in the downloads.

Kross SE Downloads Section (Korg USA): https://www.korg.com/us/support/download/product/1/442/



EDIT: Looks like it hit the web four days ago. No mention here though.

https://www.gearnews.com/namm-2019-korg-dreams-up-some-kronos-krome-and-kross-specials/

https://www.musicradar.com/news/namm-201...-se-workstation

Pre-order price on Gear4Music is $778: https://www.gear4music.com/us/en/Keyboards-and-Pianos/Korg-Kross-61-SE-Neon-Blue/2U6Q

Man are those ugly IMO.




Edit 2: Korg UK's page under Kross 2: https://www.korg.com/uk/products/synthesizers/kross2/#se



Edit 3: J. Dan - perfect for a "reunion" of the Atari Twins (I think that was the name?).

Edit 4: Looks like just more sounds added (notice it says "pre-installed" rather than "expanded" or the like. Maybe they will have them for sale/available to Kross 2 owners.

New sounds list: https://cdn.korg.com/us/support/download...cation%2Fpdf%3B


Edited by Mighty Motif Max (Yesterday at 05:21 PM)
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#2970319 - Yesterday at 05:24 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mighty Motif Max]
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Reminds me a bit of the Alesis Micron. And not in a good way. :-)
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#2970323 - Yesterday at 05:30 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: Mighty Motif Max]
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Man are those ugly IMO.

I'm for anything that gets rid of the stupid black controls on a black background that so many boards have used. Not stage-light friendly.
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#2970334 - Yesterday at 07:13 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2019 Reports [Re: AnotherScott]
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Man are those ugly IMO.

I'm for anything that gets rid of the stupid black controls on a black background that so many boards have used. Not stage-light friendly.


Dunno which stages you mean.
At least for concert touring, light designers prefered black or white gear on stage always,- and for my own purpose as a performer, I always had dimmable small goosneck lamps everywhere mounted/ velcroed on the keyboards.

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