Music Player Network Home Guitar Player Magazine Keyboard Magazine Bass Player Magazine EQ Magazine
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >
Topic Options
#2959243 - 11/23/18 05:00 AM NAMM January 2019
Radagast Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 01/20/18
Posts: 212
How about a thread for rumors and leaks of whatís going to be at NAMM in January?

Top
KC Island
#2959245 - 11/23/18 05:19 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Radagast]
Markyboard Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 02/10/01
Posts: 6294
Loc: Springfield, Virginia
I'm hoping (but doubtful) Moog will announce a long overdue polyphonic synth.

Top
#2959246 - 11/23/18 05:44 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Radagast]
Synthoid Offline
10k Club

Registered: 12/04/03
Posts: 10631
Loc: Pennsylvania, USA
Always something to look forward to... Summer NAMM, Winter NAMM, Viet NAMM. laugh
_________________________
To stop the flow of music would be like the stopping of time itself, incredible and inconceivable.
-- Aaron Copland

Top
#2959255 - 11/23/18 06:48 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Synthoid]
Radagast Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 01/20/18
Posts: 212
Dexibell has announced they are have some news for NAMM.

Top
#2959265 - 11/23/18 08:13 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Synthoid]
GregC Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 6048
Loc: Discovery Bay, California
Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Always something to look forward to... Summer NAMM, Winter NAMM, Viet NAMM. laugh



my industry contacts have whispered of a new game changer synth;

Product is named " Apocalypse "
wink
_________________________
Innovation is never a single event. It is a long process of discovery, engineering, and transformation.
My Soundcloud with many originals:
https://soundcloud.com/user-898236994

Top
#2959267 - 11/23/18 08:29 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Radagast]
Synthoid Offline
10k Club

Registered: 12/04/03
Posts: 10631
Loc: Pennsylvania, USA
With a full metal chassis, no doubt. grin
_________________________
To stop the flow of music would be like the stopping of time itself, incredible and inconceivable.
-- Aaron Copland

Top
#2959271 - 11/23/18 08:37 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: GregC]
Lady Gaia Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 11/18/17
Posts: 128
Loc: Seattle
Waldorf has promised a full reveal of the Kyra (formerly Valkyrie) FPGA-based synthesizer. They originally indicated that it would be available as of the show but given their slippery timeline for Quantum deliveries that might be optimistic.

Gattobus has stated that he's been working with something new from Roland that will be announced.

Synclavier has a "how long can you hold your breath" teaser on their site regarding something to be announced.
_________________________
Acoustic: Shigeru Kawai SK-7 ~ Breedlove C2/R
MIDI: Kurzweil Forte ~ Sequential Prophet X ~ Roland TD11KV
Electric: Schecter Solo Custom Exotic, C-1 Classic, Hellraiser Extreme

Top
#2959279 - 11/23/18 09:16 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Radagast]
davedoerfler Offline
KCFF League Champion 2017
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 12/27/12
Posts: 8104
Loc: the swamp
still 2 months away. The industry is focused on selling current inventory during the holiday season. Leaks about furure products do not help that.
_________________________
When you want authentic sounds, use orchestral samples.
When you want something moodier and more evocative, use mellotron samples.
Different colors in your crayon box.
Moe

Top
#2959287 - 11/23/18 09:33 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Synthoid]
GregC Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 6048
Loc: Discovery Bay, California
Originally Posted By: Synthoid
With a full metal chassis, no doubt. grin



The sound engineer of "Apocalypse " has a nick name;
Colonel Kurtz
wink
_________________________
Innovation is never a single event. It is a long process of discovery, engineering, and transformation.
My Soundcloud with many originals:
https://soundcloud.com/user-898236994

Top
#2959288 - 11/23/18 09:35 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: davedoerfler]
GregC Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 6048
Loc: Discovery Bay, California
Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
still 2 months away. The industry is focused on selling current inventory during the holiday season. Leaks about furure products do not help that.


you are correct, of course.

But some of us are a tad obsessive.
And silly.
_________________________
Innovation is never a single event. It is a long process of discovery, engineering, and transformation.
My Soundcloud with many originals:
https://soundcloud.com/user-898236994

Top
#2959313 - 11/23/18 12:24 PM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: GregC]
KorgyPorky Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/03/17
Posts: 170
There is something brewing at Korg, something big..
One rumor says its the next Kronos..
Another Rumor says its a new high end arranger with 2 sound engines

Yamaha should present an cp1/cp4 follow up
Casio the next px-5s..
Nord lead 5 or C3d or maybe even both..

Spectrasonics should present their stylus rmx follow up..
Akai wil show a keyboard with mpc touch and Advance VIP controlls

And finally Behringer will show a workstation...
Which will both play VSTís.and will be expendable with analogue circuit boards..


There should be enough for some heavy GAS,..

Top
#2959314 - 11/23/18 12:24 PM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: davedoerfler]
Radagast Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 01/20/18
Posts: 212
Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
still 2 months away. The industry is focused on selling current inventory during the holiday season. Leaks about furure products do not help that.


Maybe so, but as a consumer Iím interested in how competition makes things better for us consumers, and making smart, informed choices in how we spend our money. It used to be that news from NAMM was considered counterproductive to sales of products already on the market, so maybe you should protest any NAMM reporting as well. If you arenít interested in future products, then feel free to avoid this thread.


Edited by Radagast (11/23/18 12:32 PM)

Top
#2959320 - 11/23/18 12:45 PM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Markyboard]
KorgyPorky Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/03/17
Posts: 170
Originally Posted By: Markyboard
I'm hoping (but doubtful) Moog will announce a long overdue polyphonic synth.


Like the Moog one that they anounced last month?

Top
#2959329 - 11/23/18 01:54 PM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: KorgyPorky]
Geoff Grace Offline
Senior Trade Show Overseer
10k Club

Registered: 08/13/02
Posts: 11153
FWIW, I created two other NAMM threads, so that we have a separate thread for each of our three types of NAMM discussions. This thread would count as the annual advance thread for speculation, wish lists, and early product announcements. The second thread is an advance thread for planning: how to get passes, when and where to meet up with other forum members, etc., and the third thread is the traditional NAMM Reports thread for product announcements, videos, and reports from members on what and who they saw at the Convention Center.

Best,

Geoff
_________________________
Enthusiasm powers the world.

Craig Anderton's Archiving Article

Top
#2959336 - 11/23/18 02:26 PM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: KorgyPorky]
Markyboard Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 02/10/01
Posts: 6294
Loc: Springfield, Virginia
Originally Posted By: KorgyPorky
Originally Posted By: Markyboard
I'm hoping (but doubtful) Moog will announce a long overdue polyphonic synth.


Like the Moog one that they anounced last month?


Some day Markyboarding will be a ban-worthy violation of forum rules. But 'till then ...
Yup confirmed- there's always One. gofish poke grin

Top
#2959338 - 11/23/18 02:35 PM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Lady Gaia]
David Emm Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 09/14/12
Posts: 1320
Loc: Solder Huffer's Gulch
Originally Posted By: Lady Gaia
Synclavier has a "how long can you hold your breath" teaser on their site regarding something to be announced.

In researching the Synclavier V, I noticed the wise omission of a sequencer. Better to use the DAW you know over NED's older, proprietary approach. I do like the instrument's basic sound, but FM is easily had in many more accessible flavors now. You'll have to feel seriously drawn to it to embrace its approach to additive, sampling proper and resynthesis. In the case of this or the Fairlight V, you should do a careful cost/benefit analysis concerning the work load required to make either one sing. The presets do scream "EIGHTIES!," so be prepared to build your own library early on or be relegated to just one musical era. If you spend 12 hours editing partials by hand every Sunday, see physician. If they're considering a baby hardware Synclavier of some kind, watch the sales of their logo stickers jump so people can put them on their Casios & Krosses.
_________________________
George Plimpton: "If you could choose your death, what would it be?"
Charles Addams: "Breaking into 1000 pieces while attending a theremin concert in mid-January."

https://soundcloud.com/david-emm-1

Top
#2959377 - 11/23/18 05:58 PM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Radagast]
davedoerfler Offline
KCFF League Champion 2017
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 12/27/12
Posts: 8104
Loc: the swamp
Originally Posted By: KorgyPorky

And finally Behringer will show a workstation...
Which will both play VSTís.and will be expendable with analogue circuit boards..


Behringer won't be exhibiting at NAMM


Originally Posted By: Radagast
then feel free to avoid this thread.


Wasn't trying to be snarky, sorry if my post came off that way. I will take your advice however.
_________________________
When you want authentic sounds, use orchestral samples.
When you want something moodier and more evocative, use mellotron samples.
Different colors in your crayon box.
Moe

Top
#2959387 - 11/23/18 06:30 PM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: KorgyPorky]
Mighty Motif Max Offline
Gold Member

Registered: 12/14/16
Posts: 547
Loc: Northeastern MN, U.S.
Originally Posted By: KorgyPorky
There is something brewing at Korg, something big..
One rumor says its the next Kronos..
Another Rumor says its a new high end arranger with 2 sound engines...


I'm about 90% sure it's going to be a Krome successor; Sweetwater has the Krome 61 listed as no longer available. See it for yourself: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Krome61--korg-krome-61-key-synthesizer-workstation $449 off the Krome 88 too. I wonder what will be in the next model. Oh well, as usual as soon as I buy something the next model comes out. But lets at least hope it has a better keybed, right everyone? (Though I don't find it to be the worst).
_________________________
Yamaha: Motif XF8, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, MSR100, PSS-470

Korg Krome 61

Roland JV-1000

Titano Virtuoso Converter, Resident Audio T4, Casio CT-370, Kimball Valencia/Broadway

Top
#2959418 - 11/24/18 02:42 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Geoff Grace]
Six-string-man Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 08/06/13
Posts: 1515
Loc: U.K.
Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
FWIW, I created two other NAMM threads, so that we have a separate thread for each of our three types of NAMM discussions.




And very grateful we are too Geoff.

Speaking as someone who lives in the UK, I have about as much chance of flying to the moon as I have of getting to NAAM.

I REALLY look forward to your reports every year, long may they continue.
_________________________
Occasionally, do something nice for a total stranger. They'll wonder what the hell is going on!

Top
#2959431 - 11/24/18 05:34 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Mighty Motif Max]
Synthoid Offline
10k Club

Registered: 12/04/03
Posts: 10631
Loc: Pennsylvania, USA
Originally Posted By: Mighty Motif Max
I'm about 90% sure it's going to be a Krome successor; Sweetwater has the Krome 61 listed as no longer available. See it for yourself: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Krome61--korg-krome-61-key-synthesizer-workstation $449 off the Krome 88 too. I wonder what will be in the next model.


A multi-engine Krome 2 would be a perfect upgrade... to compete with the Yamaha MODX.
_________________________
To stop the flow of music would be like the stopping of time itself, incredible and inconceivable.
-- Aaron Copland

Top
#2959436 - 11/24/18 06:51 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Synthoid]
GregC Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 6048
Loc: Discovery Bay, California
Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Originally Posted By: Mighty Motif Max
I'm about 90% sure it's going to be a Krome successor; Sweetwater has the Krome 61 listed as no longer available. See it for yourself: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Krome61--korg-krome-61-key-synthesizer-workstation $449 off the Krome 88 too. I wonder what will be in the next model.


A multi-engine Krome 2 would be a perfect upgrade... to compete with the Yamaha MODX.



As a long time Kronos owner, a Krome 2 [simplified light weight low cost stripped down Kronos] isn't of interest.

If the tea leaves are correct, Korg is simply mimicing or following Yamaha.

Korg use to be a 'leader' not a box moving 'follower' with flag ship type products.

And the Kronos LS has been out for a year. True, nothing low cost there.

What I like about NAMM, its a chance to see the priorities and product strategy
of a co like Korg or Roland.

My point is that 'leading ' is more interesting than 'following ' or copying.
_________________________
Innovation is never a single event. It is a long process of discovery, engineering, and transformation.
My Soundcloud with many originals:
https://soundcloud.com/user-898236994

Top
#2959458 - 11/24/18 09:00 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Synthoid]
burningbusch Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/22/00
Posts: 8090
Loc: Ghost Planet
Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Originally Posted By: Mighty Motif Max
I'm about 90% sure it's going to be a Krome successor; Sweetwater has the Krome 61 listed as no longer available. See it for yourself: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Krome61--korg-krome-61-key-synthesizer-workstation $449 off the Krome 88 too. I wonder what will be in the next model.


A multi-engine Krome 2 would be a perfect upgrade... to compete with the Yamaha MODX.




I would love to see Korg come out with a line based on the OS found in the Grandstage and Vox Continental. Four engines: HD-1, AL-1, EP-1, SGX-2. This would have the faster boot time found on the GS/VC and provide a more performance focus. So eliminate the less used MOD-7 and STR-1 as well as KARMA and the sequencer. Keep SST and Set List mode. Be able to add third-party sample libraries (what's available for the Kronos dwarfs anything else out there, so don't lose that asset). Personally, I'd like to see them aim a little higher in price and not compromise on actions, but whatever.

Engines are important. VA, organ and piano specific engines make a big difference. Sample-based engines can't do everything.

Busch.

Top
#2959460 - 11/24/18 09:08 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: burningbusch]
GregC Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 6048
Loc: Discovery Bay, California
Originally Posted By: burningbusch
[

I would love to see Korg come out with a line based on the OS found in the Grandstage and Vox Continental. Four engines: HD-1, AL-1, EP-1, SGX-2. This would have the faster boot time found on the GS/VC and provide a more performance focus. So eliminate the less used MOD-7 and STR-1 as well as KARMA and the sequencer. Keep SST and Set List mode. Be able to add third-party sample libraries (what's available for the Kronos dwarfs anything else out there, so don't lose that asset). Personally, I'd like to see them aim a little higher in price and not compromise on actions, but whatever.

Engines are important. VA, organ and piano specific engines make a big difference. Sample-based engines can't do everything.

Busch.


I agree, engines are important.

I have had this question for awhile.

I don't much development of the MOD-7 and STR-1 engines.

Its been + 7 yrs plus Oasys time.

For all that time, it seems that only the surface is scratched for MOD-7 and STR-1

If you agree, do you have an opinion why ?

Thanks
_________________________
Innovation is never a single event. It is a long process of discovery, engineering, and transformation.
My Soundcloud with many originals:
https://soundcloud.com/user-898236994

Top
#2959466 - 11/24/18 09:55 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: GregC]
burningbusch Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/22/00
Posts: 8090
Loc: Ghost Planet
Originally Posted By: GregC


I agree, engines are important.

I have had this question for awhile.

I don't much development of the MOD-7 and STR-1 engines.

Its been + 7 yrs plus Oasys time.

For all that time, it seems that only the surface is scratched for MOD-7 and STR-1

If you agree, do you have an opinion why ?

Thanks


Both are challenging to program. With FM, you're dealing with the interaction of modulators to operators in chains. With STR-1 you're dealing with excitation, damping, dispersion, resonators, etc. What do those things even mean? Most people can handle Minimoog-level programming. Not that the idea of oscillators, filters, envelope generators wasn't a challenge initially.

Busch.

Top
#2959468 - 11/24/18 10:19 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: burningbusch]
GregC Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 6048
Loc: Discovery Bay, California
Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Originally Posted By: GregC


I agree, engines are important.

I have had this question for awhile.

I don't much development of the MOD-7 and STR-1 engines.

Its been + 7 yrs plus Oasys time.

For all that time, it seems that only the surface is scratched for MOD-7 and STR-1

If you agree, do you have an opinion why ?

Thanks


Both are challenging to program. With FM, you're dealing with the interaction of modulators to operators in chains. With STR-1 you're dealing with excitation, damping, dispersion, resonators, etc. What do those things even mean? Most people can handle Minimoog-level programming. Not that the idea of oscillators, filters, envelope generators wasn't a challenge initially.

Busch.


I could be wrong but sense a similarity to my experience in big software co's.

Specifically for large co OS development, being a Linix guru is not enough. Software development tools are available vs ' rolling your own ' for software for embedded specialized devices.

The development tools speed up the software writing , and the full device is available to market in less time. Being " first " is huge in the tech arena.

Anyway, that the pitch behind 'software development tools'.

So when I see 'Both are challenging to program' it could be due to missing
' middleware' or Korg not providing adequate developer tools
for MOD-7 and STR-1.


Edited by GregC (11/24/18 10:20 AM)
_________________________
Innovation is never a single event. It is a long process of discovery, engineering, and transformation.
My Soundcloud with many originals:
https://soundcloud.com/user-898236994

Top
#2959469 - 11/24/18 10:39 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: GregC]
sherry Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 07/09/13
Posts: 166
Give me a 76/73 semi-weighted Kronos and I'd be very happy. (I know, I know, it's never going to happen)

Top
#2959482 - 11/24/18 11:37 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: Six-string-man]
Geoff Grace Offline
Senior Trade Show Overseer
10k Club

Registered: 08/13/02
Posts: 11153
Originally Posted By: Six-string-man
Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
FWIW, I created two other NAMM threads, so that we have a separate thread for each of our three types of NAMM discussions.


And very grateful we are too Geoff.

Speaking as someone who lives in the UK, I have about as much chance of flying to the moon as I have of getting to NAAM.

I REALLY look forward to your reports every year, long may they continue.

Thank you for your kind words, Six-string-man. Of course, while I typically get the ball rolling and contribute heavily to that thread, I consider its life blood to be that of the many contributions from our community. I look forward to it every year as well!

Best,

Geoff
_________________________
Enthusiasm powers the world.

Craig Anderton's Archiving Article

Top
#2959509 - 11/24/18 04:30 PM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: burningbusch]
Moonglow Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 03/15/03
Posts: 4708
Loc: Northwest Indiana
Originally Posted By: burningbusch
I would love to see Korg come out with a line based on the OS found in the Grandstage and Vox Continental. Four engines: HD-1, AL-1, EP-1, SGX-2. This would have the faster boot time found on the GS/VC and provide a more performance focus. So eliminate the less used MOD-7 and STR-1 as well as KARMA and the sequencer. Keep SST and Set List mode. Be able to add third-party sample libraries (what's available for the Kronos dwarfs anything else out there, so don't lose that asset). Personally, I'd like to see them aim a little higher in price and not compromise on actions, but whatever.

Engines are important. VA, organ and piano specific engines make a big difference. Sample-based engines can't do everything.

Busch.

Really dig this performance-oriented approach, Busch. Hope it happens. twothumbs
_________________________
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing."
- George Bernard Shaw

Top
#2959515 - 11/24/18 04:42 PM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: KorgyPorky]
miden Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 2309
Loc: Australia
Originally Posted By: KorgyPorky
There is something brewing at Korg, something big..
One rumor says its the next Kronos..
Another Rumor says its a new high end arranger with 2 sound engines

Yamaha should present an cp1/cp4 follow up
Casio the next px-5s..
Nord lead 5 or C3d or maybe even both..

Spectrasonics should present their stylus rmx follow up..
Akai wil show a keyboard with mpc touch and Advance VIP controlls

And finally Behringer will show a workstation...
Which will both play VSTís.and will be expendable with analogue circuit boards..


There should be enough for some heavy GAS,..


I doubt Casio will have any update to the 5S...they still sell bucket loads of them, so why spend wasted money on new tech? They have developed other keys ranges around the 5S, but it they have left it alone. When you're on a good thing.....
_________________________
People are just no damn good!

Top
#2959570 - 11/25/18 09:52 AM Re: NAMM January 2019 [Re: miden]
KorgyPorky Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/03/17
Posts: 170
Originally Posted By: miden
Originally Posted By: KorgyPorky
There is something brewing at Korg, something big..
One rumor says its the next Kronos..
Another Rumor says its a new high end arranger with 2 sound engines

Yamaha should present an cp1/cp4 follow up
Casio the next px-5s..
Nord lead 5 or C3d or maybe even both..

Spectrasonics should present their stylus rmx follow up..
Akai wil show a keyboard with mpc touch and Advance VIP controlls

And finally Behringer will show a workstation...
Which will both play VSTís.and will be expendable with analogue circuit boards..


There should be enough for some heavy GAS,..


I doubt Casio will have any update to the 5S...they still sell bucket loads of them, so why spend wasted money on new tech? They have developed other keys ranges around the 5S, but it they have left it alone. When you're on a good thing.....


I dont think they evensell 10% of what they could sell if they did an updated 5s with the new interface and some new features/improved sound...

Top
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >


Moderator:  Dave Bryce, Stephen Fortner