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#2955280 - 10/29/18 04:23 PM Consensus on table style stands
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After a career of x-brace stands (which have never given me a lick of trouble) I want to get a table style stand for the One. It's 42" wide, 20" deep and 45lbs. I don't own anything this girthy and I don't want to tempt the fates. Of the available stands from Quik Lok, Ultimate, and K&M, what's the consensus?

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#2955281 - 10/29/18 04:29 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: ksoper]
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#2955283 - 10/29/18 04:31 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: ksoper]
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I have Quik Lok and K&M table type stands and like them both. Both are used for hammer action keyboards. I frequently use one of these as the base of a triple stack, topping it with a double stand.
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#2955286 - 10/29/18 04:57 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: Michael Wright]
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Originally Posted By: Michael Fright
I am a big fan of K&M. Rock solid.


Another huge K&M fan here, albeit with a spider rather than a table stand. But would happily buy any options from them.
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#2955288 - 10/29/18 05:09 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: nursers]
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I had a table stand before of unremembered brand. I replaced it with this Gator Frameworks stand which I like a lot. Sturdy, heavy duty, adjustable, folds up for transport. I play standing up so I needed something that would be tall enough. But if I played sitting, I'd still like this stand. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BMUCRRQ/ref=oh_aui_bia_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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#2955296 - 10/29/18 05:38 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: El Lobo]
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K&M 18950.

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#2955309 - 10/29/18 06:51 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: Kawai James]
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I think the K&M 18950 is the stand I had before the Gator. Expensive, unstable, and it fell apart.

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#2955310 - 10/29/18 06:53 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: El Lobo]
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My OnStage table stand has been great. I'm not sure if it'll be deep enough for you but it's sturdy and relatively cheap.
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#2955317 - 10/29/18 07:35 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: El Lobo]
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Originally Posted By: El Lobo
I think the K&M 18950 is the stand I had before the Gator. Expensive, unstable, and it fell apart.


How is the Gator? Sure looks solid.

All table stands I researched in the past will not go low enough to be comparable to piano height, but that may not be important to you. It is to me and is why I use the WS-550, or the WS-540 if I want something smaller.
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#2955330 - 10/29/18 09:31 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: El Lobo]
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Originally Posted By: El Lobo
I had a table stand before of unremembered brand. I replaced it with this Gator Frameworks stand which I like a lot. Sturdy, heavy duty, adjustable, folds up for transport. I play standing up so I needed something that would be tall enough. But if I played sitting, I'd still like this stand. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BMUCRRQ/ref=oh_aui_bia_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1



Been using this for a few months now - sturdy/easy set-up/looks cool/lotsa room for pedals and feet.
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#2955331 - 10/29/18 09:43 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: ksoper]
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Originally Posted By: ksoper
stand for the One.

I own a couple 18950's and they are rock solid.

My favorite is the K&M 18810 Omega. Totally stable and looks great.

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#2955341 - 10/30/18 02:02 AM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: RedKey]
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Originally Posted By: RedKey
Originally Posted By: ksoper
stand for the One.



My favorite is the K&M 18810 Omega. Totally stable and looks great.



I have two of these, one has stackers on it. Never any problems in the five years that I've been using them. Very solid, quick to assemble/break down. Highly recommended.
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#2955354 - 10/30/18 05:11 AM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: Six-string-man]
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I have the OnStage - it has been quite stable. However, I haven't used it since getting a K&M 18880 - big difference in weight. (I also have the 18881 second tier, although it is not attached at the moment). For a single tier, I would expect that the 18810 would be very good, although I've never tried one, they seem to build good stuff.
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#2955359 - 10/30/18 05:51 AM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: RedKey]
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Originally Posted By: RedKey
Originally Posted By: ksoper
stand for the One.

I own a couple 18950's and they are rock solid.

My favorite is the K&M 18810 Omega. Totally stable and looks great.


I also love this stand.

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#2955404 - 10/30/18 09:30 AM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: cedar]
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I have the Omega and a couple of the 18950s. Unstable? I'd like to know how. Each leg has adjustable feet for when your terrain is not flat. HEAVY duty, and rock solid.
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#2955409 - 10/30/18 09:46 AM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: Tonysounds]
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I've got the Omega, and it's awesome/rock solid. My only complaints are:

1. It's heavy and a little awkward to carry.

2. I have a regular gig where my position often straddles an uneven lip that runs parallel to the keyboard. Those long feet make it hard to position in such a way that doesn't introduce tilt.

3. It's expensive.

I use it set up semi-permanently in my studio, but after gigging it a few times decided it was a little too bulky for me to bring in and out of tight gig spaces.

I've been looking at the Gator Frameworks table mentioned above as a possible new stand, but haven't quite felt the need to buy it yet.

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#2955434 - 10/30/18 11:26 AM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: El Lobo]
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Originally Posted By: El Lobo
I think the K&M 18950 is the stand I had before the Gator. Expensive, unstable, and it fell apart.


?!?!?!?

I can't imagine of any way to make the 18950 wobble a single millimiter.
Maybe running a bulldozer over it, but not sure.

I also have the Omega. It's also rock solid despite the single legs, has space for any pedalboard (like the 18950) and looks great. Only thing, it's cumbersome to set up-tear down. You have to unscrew some bars, and those pieces of metals are BIG.
If you have a big van where you can throw it assembled, or you're going to keep it in the studio, no issue at all.

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#2955488 - 10/30/18 02:37 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: Spider76]
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#2955494 - 10/30/18 03:14 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: Spider76]
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I would never recommend the Omega for a regular gigging keyboard player that had to transport and/or set up their own rig. Sorry, ain't nobody got time for that.

(Same with the QuikLok Monolith stand... ugh...)

Fantastic stand in the studio, or at a house gig, though.

The 18950 gets a vote for me, and I concur with everyone above that has expressed doubt of one ever "falling apart" except through complete misuse by the owner.

I've ordered a Gator Frameworks Heavy-duty Keyboard Table as discussed above, purely from a pricing standpoint. It's a solid piece of kit and packs up amazingly compact (and the built-in level is a great addition!).
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#2955511 - 10/30/18 03:55 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: Sven Golly]
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The K&M 18880 is a great stand. I use it with the 18881 extension, and itís been rock solid despite heavy bar band abuse - no durability issues whatsoever (so far).
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#2955531 - 10/30/18 05:55 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: Noah B]
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I'll just add that, while I do love the K&M 18810 Omega, I find myself leaving it home often and bringing another table stand, which is less sturdy but easier to fold. But if I need two keyboards, I always bring the 18810 and the attachment for second tier.

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#2955544 - 10/30/18 06:40 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: cedar]
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With the Gator stand, do the legs sit at 90 degrees from the ground/board? The OnStage one I have is almost identical, except that the legs swing a bit further out, which helps prevent any tipping.
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#2955561 - 10/30/18 09:18 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: Spider76]
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Originally Posted By: Spider76
Originally Posted By: El Lobo
I think the K&M 18950 is the stand I had before the Gator. Expensive, unstable, and it fell apart.


?!?!?!?

I can't imagine of any way to make the 18950 wobble a single millimiter.
Maybe running a bulldozer over it, but not sure.


This.

If ever there was a stand that epitomised the phrase "built like a tank" it's the 18950. I hear folks in the military actually prefer the phrase "built like a K&M 18950", such is the rigidity of this thing.

There's also the 18953, which is based on a similar design, but a little less deep. I gather the 18953 can also go a little lower than the 18950, but I have never seen one in person to verify this.

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#2955566 - 10/30/18 10:09 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: MAJUSCULE]
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With the Gator stand, do the legs sit at 90 degrees from the ground/board? The OnStage one I have is almost identical, except that the legs swing a bit further out, which helps prevent any tipping.
The legs of the Gator stand go further out than 90 degrees.

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#2955568 - 10/30/18 10:17 PM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: El Lobo]
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Thanks. The Amazon pictures wouldn't let on.
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#2955580 - 10/31/18 03:18 AM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: Spider76]
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I also have the Omega. It's also rock solid despite the single legs, has space for any pedalboard (like the 18950) and looks great. Only thing, it's cumbersome to set up-tear down. You have to unscrew some bars, and those pieces of metals are BIG.
If you have a big van where you can throw it assembled, or you're going to keep it in the studio, no issue at all.



I think that you're doing it wrong! To break mine down, I slide out the two legs, turn them 90 degrees, and slide them back in again. This allows the stand to lie in the boot (trunk) of my medium sized car on top of all the other gear. Takes about 30 seconds!
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#2955809 - 11/01/18 05:03 AM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: Six-string-man]
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I think that you're doing it wrong! To break mine down, I slide out the two legs, turn them 90 degrees, and slide them back in again. This allows the stand to lie in the boot (trunk) of my medium sized car on top of all the other gear. Takes about 30 seconds!


Yes I know, still the upper arms that support the keyboard have to be unscrewed /rescrewed removing and reassembling small parts that are easily lost. And still even if it finally folds flat, it's bigger than any other stand (actually, bigger than any other piece of equipment in my van, keyboard included!).

Again, it's not difficult and it doesn't take hours, but as part of a small and quick setup/teardown rig, it's less practical than most other stands.

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#2955826 - 11/01/18 07:11 AM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: Spider76]
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One of the first things I did with the Omega is switch out the little knob and washers with knobs similar to these:

Replacement knobs

Note, these are not the correct size thread. I just went down and picked mine up from the hardware store.

They are larger and easer to hold/spin, making it easier to spin on and off, and eliminate the need for the washer that will surely get lost!

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#2955835 - 11/01/18 07:40 AM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: FJR]
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I am using OnStage platform stands they do the job. My only issue with the Omega is I don't see a way to add a second tier. The onstage stand has options for a second tier, mic or music stand and a laptop option. Not more than one of these though. Does the Gator have the ability to use these? Because the Gator does look more solid.

The OnStage I'm always afraid that if the legs aren't spread out as far as possible the thing will collapse. And I'm afraid someone bumping the side of it will make the other end fold and collapse.


Edited by Tombstone88 (11/01/18 07:41 AM)
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#2955836 - 11/01/18 07:44 AM Re: Consensus on table style stands [Re: Toano88]
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My only issue with the Omega is I don't see a way to add a second tier. The onstage stand has options for a second tier
K&M gives lots of add on options for the Omega.
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