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#2953126 - 10/15/18 08:45 PM Best tube overdrive pedals?
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Best tube overdrive pedals with a tube in them?

I like a smooth overdrive with very little "hair" or grind. Smooth like a Santana overdrive lead sound.
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#2953134 - 10/16/18 01:55 AM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: desertbluesman]
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Haven`t tried it yet but, I`m betting this would be one to watch out for
https://www.blackstaramps.com/uk/products/ht-drive
Cost no object, one of these-and I have seen several on the shelves here. The article also recommends a few alternatives
http://www.wiredguitarist.com/2016/05/21/analyzing-the-hype-john-landgraff-dynamic-overdrive/

Oops, forgot the tube requirement.
Here`s another one I`d love to get my hands on.
The guitars are pretty phantasmic as well
http://siegmundguitars.com/pedal.html


Edited by skipclone 1 (10/16/18 02:01 AM)
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#2953144 - 10/16/18 06:54 AM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: skipclone 1]
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Thanks Skip, three nice options to look at.
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#2953146 - 10/16/18 06:56 AM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: skipclone 1]
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Get you any tube overdrive pedal that runs a 12AX7, and replace the 12AX7 with a lower gain tube, like a 12AT7(yes, it will work in place of an AX, I've done it and I know!). It smooths out the gain and sweetens it up tremendously.
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#2953151 - 10/16/18 07:36 AM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: picker]
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I have no experience with tube pedals DBM...good luck in your search. I love that Santana sound! cool
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#2953160 - 10/16/18 08:45 AM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: Larryz]
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Dave:

Don't use them. But this is one recommended by a friend: (Expensive)

www.effectrode.com/products/pedals/tube-drive-overdrive/

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#2953164 - 10/16/18 09:02 AM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: DocPate]
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Effectrode stuff is true tube circuitry and good stuff. Most the time those tube stomp boxes are a gimmick. Just a fancy glass diode. Working voltage for a 12AX7 is closer to 300 volts. If it can run off a wall wart it isn't real tube electronics. That doesn't make them bad. But they are necessarily smoother than solid state analog. I have the original rack mount Tube Driver but it is still a starved plate voltage design. My personal favorite smooth low dirt OD is the Wampler Tumnus Deluxe but it doesn't have a tube.
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#2953256 - 10/16/18 11:21 PM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: desertbluesman]
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As pleased as I've been with my Radial Tonebone Plexitube, which is rather 'Marshally', I think that you'd be better served with the Radial Tonebone Trimode, which is more 'Fender'/'Boogie' than 'Marshall', and more versatile and dynamically responsive. I think that with some trial-and-error, you could dial-in some tones between its two channels that would please you very well.

These are hybrid SS/tube designs, but they're very good hybrid SS/tube designs.

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#2953319 - 10/17/18 09:46 AM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Thanks Caev, I also like the looks of the Tonebone Classic. Which is almost the same as my Nady TD1's
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#2953394 - 10/17/18 04:50 PM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: desertbluesman]
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BK Butler Tube driver I have mentioned it before I really like mine. David Gilmour uses a few of em as does Eric Johnson.

http://www.butleraudio.com/

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#2953495 - 10/18/18 09:46 AM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: Lokair]
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Thanks Lok, looks cool.
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#2953594 - 10/18/18 07:34 PM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: desertbluesman]
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RE CEB`s point about voltage-
The Blackstar`s circuitry is designed to take that into account-it`s worth a quick look at what they have to say about it. Most tubes do indeed just sit there.
That said, there was another one I looked at before but the name escapes me. I thought it had silver in the name-a search hasn`t found it but I did come across this:
https://www.jtpedals.com/best-overdrive-pedal-2016-review/top-6-best-boutique/
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#2953665 - 10/19/18 07:59 AM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: skipclone 1]
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Thanks Skip, I think my amp tech is hot on repairing my Nady TD1. He seemed confident.
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#2953679 - 10/19/18 09:53 AM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: skipclone 1]
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Originally Posted By: skipclone 1
RE CEB`s point about voltage-
The Blackstar`s circuitry is designed to take that into account-it`s worth a quick look at what they have to say about it. Most tubes do indeed just sit there.
That said, there was another one I looked at before but the name escapes me. I thought it had silver in the name-a search hasn`t found it but I did come across this:
https://www.jtpedals.com/best-overdrive-pedal-2016-review/top-6-best-boutique/


The thing about the Blackstar pedals is the support sucked. One came into the shop. (that is not necessarily bad. things break). But it needed a proprietary part and Blackstar couldn't get it to my tech. I mean WTF.... this was like a $400 pedal. But when working I guess it was killer.

I have one of their little amps and it has been great. (HT5R)


Edited by CEB (10/19/18 09:56 AM)
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#2953705 - 10/19/18 12:50 PM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: CEB]
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Originally Posted By: CEB
The thing about the Blackstar pedals is the support sucked. One came into the shop. (that is not necessarily bad. things break). But it needed a proprietary part and Blackstar couldn't get it to my tech. I mean WTF.... this was like a $400 pedal.


That's all I need to know to tell me that I will never buy anything from Blackstar- not even used.
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#2953708 - 10/19/18 01:14 PM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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I know Blackstar approached Mark about carrying the amp line. He told his rep 'No Thanks! and told the pedal story.


Edited by CEB (10/19/18 01:15 PM)
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#2953797 - 10/20/18 08:17 AM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: CEB]
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Great to hear some of the bg on how this stuff plays out on the post-consumer level.
Thanks, CEB !

On a a slightly diff tack, is there any pedal that seems to provide cleaner, better defined thru-put for multi-note or chordal playing ?
I'd like to find a pedal that allows a wide range of effect levels but also allows for clear multi-note definition.

I'll also prolly be going w/a low level amp or maybe even computerized set up, so "natural" overdrive ain't in my picture, really.
Just looking for a short-cut before I start.
Thx !
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#2953930 - 10/21/18 07:26 AM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: CEB]
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Originally Posted By: CEB
Originally Posted By: skipclone 1
RE CEB`s point about voltage-
The Blackstar`s circuitry is designed to take that into account-it`s worth a quick look at what they have to say about it. Most tubes do indeed just sit there.
That said, there was another one I looked at before but the name escapes me. I thought it had silver in the name-a search hasn`t found it but I did come across this:
https://www.jtpedals.com/best-overdrive-pedal-2016-review/top-6-best-boutique/


The thing about the Blackstar pedals is the support sucked. One came into the shop. (that is not necessarily bad. things break). But it needed a proprietary part and Blackstar couldn't get it to my tech. I mean WTF.... this was like a $400 pedal. But when working I guess it was killer.

I have one of their little amps and it has been great. (HT5R)


I too have heard good things about their amps and to be fair, when a company that is basically a few guys who started with a larger label and went off on their own becomes in demand, it can be very overwhelming-I had the same issue with one of the guitars I bought. I called multiple shops in Australia, they all complained about slow orders, mistakes etc. I said, okay-what about the guitars? "Yeah, the guitars are alright..." that`s all I needed. I told the story before, about how I needed a setup for my electric and, one of the founders of the company sent a company car to pick me up at the train station, had a factory guy set it to my liking, then drove me back to the station. At this point they aren`t even making electrics, so it`s a special thing on multiple levels. I spoke to a Blackstar rep when they were just getting off the ground-I`d say don`t be overly quick to write them off.
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#2956964 - 11/08/18 01:03 PM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: skipclone 1]
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DBM are you looking for replacement for a Nady TD-1 ?


https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/msg/d/nady-td-1-tube-distortion/6739761613.html


This is local for me I could help you get it if you would need or want it.

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#2956973 - 11/08/18 01:45 PM Re: Best tube overdrive pedals? [Re: Lokair]
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Thanks for thinking of me Lokair. The one I want is a much later version of that model. Mine looks like this;

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/nady-td-1-tube-distortion-pedal

The later model TD1 is discontinued but I think this be might be similar in capability it lacks the presence control, but I keep mine all the way off anyways.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/...n-pedal-with-eq
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