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Huge shout out to Crumar! #2952224
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Ask and ye shall receive!

Only 6 weeks ago, I shot Crumar an email about adding a "momentary" option for pedal control of the Leslie on the Mojo61. Yesterday, in their very next firmware update, they added it. I have no idea if I'm the only one who requested it, but either way, that's some SERIOUS customer service for ya!

Fantastic!


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Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: EricBarker] #2952229
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Very cool development.

You might as well take credit for it. Who's gonna prove you wrong?


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Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Adan] #2952234
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never hurts to ask isnt it?


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Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Mogut] #2952237
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Awesome!


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Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: EricBarker] #2952258
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Quote:
I have no idea if I'm the only one who requested it,


So, you're the other one smile
I was wanting to get it to work "momentary" from a sustain pedal when using a MOJO 61 as a controller for VB3II "in the box". DB sent me some email that I still need to re-read, which I'll do next time I'm hooked up that way.


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Of all things, in the meantime (since I always play with a laptop/controller), my current setup is that I hook all pedals up to my Keylab, then I wrote a little max/msp router patch that sends the sustain back to the Mojo on CC1. That way I can get away with less pedals, all I have to do is hook a USB from the Mojo to the laptop. I also duplicate an expression pedal back to the mojo. I'll probably keep it this way because it's a simpler setup, but in the few times that I just use the Mojo alone, at least the pedal will work in the way that I'm accustomed.


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Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Steve Nathan] #2952270
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Originally Posted By: Steve Nathan
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I have no idea if I'm the only one who requested it,

So, you're the other one smile
I was wanting to get it to work "momentary" from a sustain pedal when using a MOJO 61 as a controller for VB3II "in the box". DB sent me some email that I still need to re-read, which I'll do next time I'm hooked up that way.

As Guido indicated, this should fix the problem on the Mojo side. thu

dB

Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Dave Bryce] #2952294
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Have you checked out the improvements to the leslie sim as well? I just did and the improvements to the sound in tremolo (which I didn't like before, yet) are amazing!

Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Frank Montis] #2952297
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How are the improvements in the Rhodes?

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Frank, I noticed a few things, and played around with them, but I can't be sure exactly what the differences are from before. There's the new doppler adjustment, which is pretty sweet. There's two things though, one is they claimed that they greatly increased the speed settings, but from what I can tell, it just allows it to go faster. If anything, I feel the FAST setting is a bit too fast, and I have it cranked all the way down... kinda wish it could go even slower. Secondly, the Leslie sounds fantastic in stereo, but I notice that I can't really get it to fold down to mono very cleanly. My band plays in mono in our main venue (it's a mono PA), and I collapse all stuff to mono. I have yet to find settings on the Mojo that really feel "mono safe". Maybe the new doppler adjustment will help.


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Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Frank Montis] #2952318
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Originally Posted By: Frank Montis
Have you checked out the improvements to the leslie sim as well? I just did and the improvements to the sound in tremolo (which I didn't like before, yet) are amazing!
Frank, can you post a video with the new leslie sim so that we have an idea as to how the new ones sounds? Can't wait to get this into the Gemini module and eliminate the need for the Vent.


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Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: EricBarker] #2952360
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Originally Posted By: EricBarker
but I notice that I can't really get it to fold down to mono very cleanly. My band plays in mono in our main venue (it's a mono PA), and I collapse all stuff to mono. I have yet to find settings on the Mojo that really feel "mono safe". Maybe the new doppler adjustment will help.


Try setting mic angle to zero.


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Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Delaware Dave] #2952361
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You guys havent even mentioned the major changes to the organ tone itself: totally rewritten keyclick (way more realistic in both sound and response now, with multiple adjustable parameters) and a better top octave response (much more smooth). Also, Guido has adjusted how the tonewheel leakage works. It sounds amazing.

Also, in the Leslie sim, Guido has added a bass port parameter that offers more bass response and a direct leak parameter that allows you to dial in some direct signal to the Leslie sim.

This is a MAJOR update and its like having a new instrument. This thing sounds alive.

Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Mitch Towne] #2952372
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Now, all I need to do is get a bunch of people to make noise about adding the option to toggle the Auto Wah parameter on the Seven (which I'll never use) to Touch Wah (which I love to bits on EP and clav).. poke

dB

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Originally Posted By: Grave Bryce
Now, all I need to do is get a bunch of people to make noise about adding the option to toggle the Auto Wah parameter on the Seven (which I'll never use) to Touch Wah (which I love to bits on EP and clav).. poke

dB


Oh hell yeah! (but only if I can take credit for the change when it happens)

Unfortunately my Seven has done broke. Crumar thinks it's probably a failure of the internal power supply. Under warranty and they're sending a replacement, so all will soon be good again.


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Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Adan] #2952384
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I can only assume the update will be avail for the Gemini soon? I don't recall seeing anything specific.

Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Adan] #2952396
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Originally Posted By: Adan
Originally Posted By: Grave Bryce
Now, all I need to do is get a bunch of people to make noise about adding the option to toggle the Auto Wah parameter on the Seven (which I'll never use) to Touch Wah (which I love to bits on EP and clav).. poke

dB


Oh hell yeah! (but only if I can take credit for the change when it happens)

Works for me...

dB

Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Mitch Towne] #2952420
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Originally Posted By: Mitch Towne
You guys havent even mentioned the major changes to the organ tone itself: totally rewritten keyclick (way more realistic in both sound and response now, with multiple adjustable parameters) and a better top octave response (much more smooth). Also, Guido has adjusted how the tonewheel leakage works. It sounds amazing.

Also, in the Leslie sim, Guido has added a bass port parameter that offers more bass response and a direct leak parameter that allows you to dial in some direct signal to the Leslie sim.

This is a MAJOR update and its like having a new instrument. This thing sounds alive.



Yes, and WOW!!


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Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: drawback] #2952433
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I wish they added the single pedal option of sostenuto pedal function for the organ. Many are probably wondering what I mean. I mean latch on only the notes played before the pedal is depressed. Thus it means the pedal sustains only those first notes that are being held down when the pedal is depressed, allowing future notes played to be unaffected. I find it very useful for Joe Zawinul pedal Intros where he would sustain a synth chord while he solos over it with another synth. It would be helpful on a single 61 note organ. Do you understand what I mean?

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Originally Posted By: Adan
Crumar thinks it's probably a failure of the internal power supply. Under warranty and they're sending a replacement, so all will soon be good again.

Too bad they don't use wall warts. ;-)

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Originally Posted By: Mitch Towne
You guys havent even mentioned the major changes to the organ tone itself: totally rewritten keyclick (way more realistic in both sound and response now, with multiple adjustable parameters) and a better top octave response (much more smooth). Also, Guido has adjusted how the tonewheel leakage works. It sounds amazing.
...This is a MAJOR update and its like having a new instrument. This thing sounds alive.

Yes, and WOW!!

Wait, I thought the Mojo organ was already perfect? ;-)


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Crumar thinks it's probably a failure of the internal power supply. Under warranty and they're sending a replacement, so all will soon be good again.

Too bad they don't use wall warts. ;-)



I know, it's a lot of inconvenience and extra effort for me, Crumar, and Kraft. And for Crumar it's also lost revenue.


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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott

Wait, I thought the Mojo organ was already perfect? ;-)


well, now it's more perfecter. smile


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Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Delaware Dave] #2952462
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Originally Posted By: Delaware Dave
Originally Posted By: Frank Montis
Have you checked out the improvements to the leslie sim as well? I just did and the improvements to the sound in tremolo (which I didn't like before, yet) are amazing!
Frank, can you post a video with the new leslie sim so that we have an idea as to how the new ones sounds? Can't wait to get this into the Gemini module and eliminate the need for the Vent.


I'll try when I find the time, which I don't really have at the moment. I did post a little video on Instagram yesterday with the update applied, but without really messing with the settings. I messed with the settings on another Mojo61 and it sure seems like a great update, even though I have to find 'my' sound again after changing all the new parameters, but that will take just a little time.

As soon as I find the time I'l make a video, with the settings included.

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Originally Posted By: Grave Bryce
Now, all I need to do is get a bunch of people to make noise about adding the option to toggle the Auto Wah parameter on the Seven (which I'll never use) to Touch Wah (which I love to bits on EP and clav).. poke

dB


Hey Dave, how are you doing? smile

That WOULD be a nice option for sure. I'll try to tickle Guido :), although he probably reads here as well.

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Originally Posted By: Frank Montis
Hey Dave, how are you doing? smile

Excellent, brother Frank! Hope same is true for you...

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That WOULD be a nice option for sure. I'll try to tickle Guido :), although he probably reads here as well.

I've mentioned it to him before...

dB

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Originally Posted By: Grave Bryce
Originally Posted By: Frank Montis
Hey Dave, how are you doing? smile

Excellent, brother Frank! Hope same is true for you...

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That WOULD be a nice option for sure. I'll try to tickle Guido :), although he probably reads here as well.

I've mentioned it to him before...

dB


Yes brother Dave, all is pretty well! Thanks.

When enough people mention it maybe he starts thinking about it! smile

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Could someone help a brother out and post the OS 1.40 update for Mojo 61. I tried the website for 2 days and seems to be down. PM me or post would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much and can't wait to try the new updates out.

Thanks again,
Benny

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Originally Posted By: bennyray
Could someone help a brother out and post the OS 1.40 update for Mojo 61. I tried the website for 2 days and seems to be down. PM me or post would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much and can't wait to try the new updates out.

Thanks again,
Benny


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Thanks Dave and have a great day!

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Just did the update, sure sounds good. I switched back to the default Organ , it sounds better now for sure.

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What was changed on the Tine Pianos? I always welcome improvement in the Rhodes. I am listening with my Sony MDR-7506 headphones (by the way I noticed on 60 Minutes that McCartney uses these same headphones in his home studio as does Sting in his home studio).
The organ key click is nicer, before the update I seemed to notice it and it seemed it was always too much or too little, in other words it stood out. But now it sounds blended in very natural way, it seems just right at every level. The top octave does seem smoother, is that because of the "old wires" balance update or a separate tweak?

Crumar is the best. No other maker would do this sort of improvements for us.


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Agree the leslie sim on fast is much improved, never liked it until now.

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This forum is the wrong place for me to be if I don't want to be thinking about investing in a Mojo, isn't it? ;-)


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Originally Posted By: samuelblupowitz
This forum is the wrong place for me to be if I don't want to be thinking about investing in a Mojo, isn't it? ;-)
Damn straight. It's an awesome board and we have lots of fans here.


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I had both the Hammond SK1, an Electro 5, and the Mojo 61 and it was no contest in my mind in terms of sound and action behavior. The Mojo 61 won in Organ, Rhodes, Wurlitzer and Clavinet. However, the Electro 5 did win in the Acoustic Piano sound category, but placed third in organ. Hammond took second place in organ bust last place by a mile in all other sound categories.


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Argh add me to the "wrong place to be camp"...I don't do that many gigs and can hardly justify getting one...been gigging with one keyboard with another cheapo one of our singer's as backup. The Nord electro checks more boxes but I do play a lot of organ, classic rock, in my current band.

We just did an audition at a nice spot, jam night, and they had an SK2 sitting there that I got to play. (Imagine that, a keyboard at a jam night!) That felt just fine to me, so if the Mojo is better that is not helping with the G.A.S....my favorite waterfall action that I've tried is the Roland v-combo and it's a very light and easy to play one (vs the stiffer one on the Nord and the Hammond SK...but as I said, it didn't bother me in the slightest.)

The extended library of the Nord==especially the pianos--and the fact that they added envelopes for the synth sounds have me leaning in that direction...if just organ, I'd jump on the Mojo (and still might!)

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I was another one who was bothered by the previous sim on fast--my specific complaint was about it having too much "pitch vibrato." On first listen to 1.4 update, I think Guido totally fixed that. Sounds great! I will wait to gig with it before making a final judgment, but I think I am finally able to take the VENT II out of my rig when using MOJO61.

Thank you, Guido!!!!!


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Me as well.

Yes, I do consulting for them...but as most of y'all know, that happened because I was knocked out by a Mojo more than any clonewheel I'd ever played...not just the sound, but the feel - couldn't stop playing the damn thing...

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This forum is the wrong place for me to be if I don't want to be thinking about investing in a Mojo, isn't it? ;-)



I do vaguely recall a forum member buying one in the early days, not getting on with it, and sending it back.

Mind you, he doesn't mention it much these days :-)


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Im hoping this wonderfulness will be included in an update for the dual manual Mojo. Does anyone know if thats in the works/plan? Id love to leave the Vent 2 at home but cant do it yet. The other updates are also very appealing.

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Originally Posted By: Al Quinn
Im hoping this wonderfulness will be included in an update for the dual manual Mojo. Does anyone know if thats in the works/plan? Id love to leave the Vent 2 at home but cant do it yet. The other updates are also very appealing.


Oooh, I'd love that!


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Originally Posted By: Al Quinn
Im hoping this wonderfulness will be included in an update for the dual manual Mojo. Does anyone know if thats in the works/plan? Id love to leave the Vent 2 at home but cant do it yet. The other updates are also very appealing.


like

in addition, I don't know about you, Al, but I can't seem to get my Vent II to play nice with my Mojo half moon, so I am using a Leslie CU-1 half moon ; however I can't get it to fit perfectly on my Mojo unless I drill new holes for it which I am reluctant to do. Would love to just use my Mojo half moon.


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My impression is that he keeps parity across instruments for VB3, including Mojo, Mojo 61, Gemini, stand alone, and plug in, but I have no idea where he is for his various platforms. I hope that you guys get what you wish for.


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New OS for the Seven now available. Unfortunately I'll have to wait until my replacement arrives next week to try it out. Crumar is claiming improved APs, among other stuff.


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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
in addition, I don't know about you, Al, but I can't seem to get my Vent II to play nice with my Mojo half moon, so I am using a Leslie CU-1 half moon ; however I can't get it to fit perfectly on my Mojo unless I drill new holes for it which I am reluctant to do. Would love to just use my Mojo half moon.
have you tried heavy duty velcro rather than drilling holes?


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Originally Posted By: Delaware Dave
have you tried heavy duty velcro rather than drilling holes?


actually, Dave, that is what I am doing. It's good, but not perfectly tight. Not going to fall off, though. Thanks for your post. thu


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Originally Posted By: Adan
New OS for the Seven now available. Unfortunately I'll have to wait until my replacement arrives next week to try it out. Crumar is claiming improved APs, among other stuff.


I've installed the update. IMO the AP is considerably better (also the Elec Grand) and the entire board seems to be.....can't quite put my finger on it....better. Another nice feature added (some might consider it a fix) is that you can now link or un-link the master volume to the individual patches. Previously, the master volume was linked to the individual presets.


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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: Delaware Dave
have you tried heavy duty velcro rather than drilling holes?


actually, Dave, that is what I am doing. It's good, but not perfectly tight. Not going to fall off, though. Thanks for your post. thu


Do you need to remove it? I use a re-wired Nord switch which I leave mounted to the lower manual with Scotch Extreme tape.


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There was no mention of an AP change, therefore we can assume it has not been changed. Still curious what was done to the Tine Pianos.


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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
There was no mention of an AP change, therefore we can assume it has not been changed. Still curious what was done to the Tine Pianos.


In addition to my own ears, here is a copy of the update notice. See line six.

Crumar Seven - Version history

Version 1.10 - October 2018
- Added a global option to unlink the volume parameter from the presets and make it a global volume setting
- Added functions for exporting/importing presets to/from the USB memory
- Added: the MIDI TX Channel selection can now be set on "TX OFF" to completely disable any messages going to the MIDI OUTPUT ports. This can be
useful in case you don't want the Messages generated by the Seven during Local-ON to interfere with other connected MIDI devices; of course,
MIDI transmission is always active when setting the LOCAL function to OFF
- Improved the Acoustic Piano and the Electric Grand Piano models
- Replaced the parameter "Fundamental Level" with "Duplex Scale" in the AP Editing page
- Added pitch bend support for Clavi and DX EP (recognized from MIDI)
- Fixed problem that could make it unstable after changing the global tuning
- Introduced a new WIRED "Online Editor". Just connect your Seven to your computer or to your mobile device using a standard USB CABLE and
visit the website www.gsidsp.com/Seven
This editor is experimental and not 100% identical to the internal Wi-Fi editor, it is based on Google's WEB MIDI API and works only with
Google Chrome, Opera or Firefox (requires add-ons) and does not replace the internal Wi-Fi editor.
- Slight improvements for the Tine and Reed EP models
- Minor optimizations concerning the control panel


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I believe Jazz+ was talking about the Mojo61 update... line six.

Here's the list of changes for Firmware v.1.40:
- VB3: Improved the keyclick, the cross-talk, introduced the "complex crosstalk on upper manual"
- VB3: Improved the Rotary Speaker algorithm and added new parameters
- VB3: Extended rotation speed and ramp time ranges, and now displayed in actual Hz and Seconds
- VB3: Modified "OLD" resistor wire set to have a better drawbar balance on the top octave
- VB3: Added new resistor wire set that disables the foldback (Spinet style)
- Slight improvements to the Tine and Reed EP models
- Added option to use the sustain pedal to switch between the slow and fast rotary speeds in momentary mode too
- Added option to have the Pedal-to-Lower function in Split mode between the pedalboard and the lower manual
- Updated the PDF manual with new informations and explanation of all organ parameters (please read it)
- Fixed problem that could cause a system restart while using the USB Offline Editor


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Sorry, my mistake. It followed my post of the update for the SEVEN so I assumed that was what he was referencing.


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My mistake I now just noticed he was talkin about the Seven which also had an update, and it tweaked the 7 AP.


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No harm, no foul. FWIW, I think the update to the SEVEN moved the AP from 'usable' to 'pretty darn good'.


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I have two Mojo 61s so it was nice to be able to upgrade one and A/B between 1.3x and 1.40. The Leslie sim is greatly improved. Previously the Leslie sim it had a weird upper-mid warble on tremolo that really bothered me, and I was never able to dial it back much. As it is, I have the horn speed on the slowest setting and I'd be happy if I could make it go slower. With the new firmware, you can still hear traces of the weird warble but it's greatly reduced. The new "doppler" setting helps a lot in that regard. There's also a new "tube feedback" parameter that adds some growl and heft when you're deep into the expression pedal. You can go full Jon Lord if you want to.

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Originally Posted By: OB Dave
The Leslie sim is greatly improved.

I guess we're up for another round of "it's so good, there's no reason to use a Vent." Maybe it will be true this time! ;-)


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https://youtu.be/Ei_3-UqMykE?t=9

Video of how the new update sounds for the Mojo 61 rotary sim!

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I played a gig yesterday with my updated Mojo 61 and I was very impressed with the Leslie sim changes. I'm happy to say that I'll no longer need to bring my Vent II to gigs.

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Originally Posted By: Pigmeat
I'm happy to say that I'll no longer need to bring my Vent II to gigs.


Wondering what kind of music was played at your gig?


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That didn't take long!


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Ok, I'm a poor guy with my Nord C2, updated to the C2D model though so, who is considering selling his Vent 2? I was told that it will improve the Leslie sim of my C2(D)...I'm planning to out a Tall &Fat before it was well....
Let me know, pm me...


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I have played jazz and funk gigs with the new simulation. No Vent needed.

Also, the whole board plays even more realistically now. The key click and percussion attack adjustments have made a big difference.

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Well MTs recommendation is good enough for me! Come on Guido please release the same update for the Gemini, my pedalboard needs some space for my Atlantic delay/reverb pedal.

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Hey MT, are you using the default editor settings for Percussion attack, click, and Rotary? Which organ set are you using the most lately?

What was changed on the Tine Pianos???


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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: Pigmeat
I'm happy to say that I'll no longer need to bring my Vent II to gigs.


Wondering what kind of music was played at your gig?


We played a variety of styles of original blues. I go for Ron Levy and Mike Finnigan sounds often. Sorry, probably not so helpful smile

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Originally Posted By: Pigmeat

We played a variety of styles of original blues. I go for Ron Levy and Mike Finnigan sounds often. Sorry, probably not so helpful smile


no, it is helpful. You say that for blues gigs a Vent is no longer needed. This is good information for the forum. thu


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Jazz,

As far as percussion settings, I have dropped the volume of the percussion down a bit. Somewhere around 35-40. There are three or four new click parameters to adjust (volume, length, release and bounce) and I don't know where those are set off the top of my head.

For the rotary settings, I use the Motion Sound KP500, so I have my settings personalized for use with it. They might be different if I were using another set up or were recording direct.

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Gigged with MOJO61 1.40 update twice this past weekend. Variety music in full band context, smooth jazz to classic rock.

Wonderful enhancements on organ tone in high octave and leslie tremolo.

No more Vent II for MOJO61 for me.

(As Bullwinkle said "This time for sure.")


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Hey, Frank, the Tribute to Ray "Georgia on My Mind" was very tasty. Nice band, too. Thanks for sharing. Jeffrey

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The Acoustic Piano is probably the only thing that the Mojo doesn't do very well. But it doesn't bother much as the Mojo wasn't really designed with that in mind, in fact I'm reading it started as an easter egg that wasn't initially documented. Still, I figure they'll get to it eventually, but I won't bug 'em because I know it's low priority.


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Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Jazz+] #2953467
10/18/18 10:35 AM
10/18/18 10:35 AM
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Take a guess ....
Delaware Dave Offline
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Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,413
Take a guess ....
Guido wrote this in the GSI Facebook group:

Guido Scognamiglio: "..The Gemini will be updated in November or December..".


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