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#2952224 - 10/09/18 04:29 PM Huge shout out to Crumar!
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Ask and ye shall receive!

Only 6 weeks ago, I shot Crumar an email about adding a "momentary" option for pedal control of the Leslie on the Mojo61. Yesterday, in their very next firmware update, they added it. I have no idea if I'm the only one who requested it, but either way, that's some SERIOUS customer service for ya!

Fantastic!
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#2952229 - 10/09/18 04:54 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: EricBarker]
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Very cool development.

You might as well take credit for it. Who's gonna prove you wrong?
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#2952234 - 10/09/18 05:19 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Adan]
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never hurts to ask isnt it?
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#2952237 - 10/09/18 05:25 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Mogut]
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Awesome!
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#2952258 - 10/09/18 06:58 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: EricBarker]
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I have no idea if I'm the only one who requested it,


So, you're the other one smile
I was wanting to get it to work "momentary" from a sustain pedal when using a MOJO 61 as a controller for VB3II "in the box". DB sent me some email that I still need to re-read, which I'll do next time I'm hooked up that way.
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#2952269 - 10/09/18 07:51 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Steve Nathan]
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Of all things, in the meantime (since I always play with a laptop/controller), my current setup is that I hook all pedals up to my Keylab, then I wrote a little max/msp router patch that sends the sustain back to the Mojo on CC1. That way I can get away with less pedals, all I have to do is hook a USB from the Mojo to the laptop. I also duplicate an expression pedal back to the mojo. I'll probably keep it this way because it's a simpler setup, but in the few times that I just use the Mojo alone, at least the pedal will work in the way that I'm accustomed.
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#2952270 - 10/09/18 08:20 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Steve Nathan]
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Originally Posted By: Steve Nathan
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I have no idea if I'm the only one who requested it,

So, you're the other one smile
I was wanting to get it to work "momentary" from a sustain pedal when using a MOJO 61 as a controller for VB3II "in the box". DB sent me some email that I still need to re-read, which I'll do next time I'm hooked up that way.

As Guido indicated, this should fix the problem on the Mojo side. thu

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#2952294 - 10/10/18 01:51 AM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Have you checked out the improvements to the leslie sim as well? I just did and the improvements to the sound in tremolo (which I didn't like before, yet) are amazing!

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#2952297 - 10/10/18 03:19 AM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Frank Montis]
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How are the improvements in the Rhodes?

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#2952310 - 10/10/18 05:21 AM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: VanZea]
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Frank, I noticed a few things, and played around with them, but I can't be sure exactly what the differences are from before. There's the new doppler adjustment, which is pretty sweet. There's two things though, one is they claimed that they greatly increased the speed settings, but from what I can tell, it just allows it to go faster. If anything, I feel the FAST setting is a bit too fast, and I have it cranked all the way down... kinda wish it could go even slower. Secondly, the Leslie sounds fantastic in stereo, but I notice that I can't really get it to fold down to mono very cleanly. My band plays in mono in our main venue (it's a mono PA), and I collapse all stuff to mono. I have yet to find settings on the Mojo that really feel "mono safe". Maybe the new doppler adjustment will help.
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#2952318 - 10/10/18 05:57 AM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Frank Montis]
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Originally Posted By: Frank Montis
Have you checked out the improvements to the leslie sim as well? I just did and the improvements to the sound in tremolo (which I didn't like before, yet) are amazing!
Frank, can you post a video with the new leslie sim so that we have an idea as to how the new ones sounds? Can't wait to get this into the Gemini module and eliminate the need for the Vent.
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#2952360 - 10/10/18 09:53 AM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: EricBarker]
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Originally Posted By: EricBarker
but I notice that I can't really get it to fold down to mono very cleanly. My band plays in mono in our main venue (it's a mono PA), and I collapse all stuff to mono. I have yet to find settings on the Mojo that really feel "mono safe". Maybe the new doppler adjustment will help.


Try setting mic angle to zero.
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#2952361 - 10/10/18 09:57 AM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Delaware Dave]
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You guys haven’t even mentioned the major changes to the organ tone itself: totally rewritten keyclick (way more realistic in both sound and response now, with multiple adjustable parameters) and a better top octave response (much more smooth). Also, Guido has adjusted how the tonewheel leakage works. It sounds amazing.

Also, in the Leslie sim, Guido has added a bass port parameter that offers more bass response and a direct leak parameter that allows you to dial in some direct signal to the Leslie sim.

This is a MAJOR update and it’s like having a new instrument. This thing sounds alive.

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#2952372 - 10/10/18 11:05 AM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Mitch Towne]
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Now, all I need to do is get a bunch of people to make noise about adding the option to toggle the Auto Wah parameter on the Seven (which I'll never use) to Touch Wah (which I love to bits on EP and clav).. poke

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#2952380 - 10/10/18 11:45 AM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Originally Posted By: Grave Bryce
Now, all I need to do is get a bunch of people to make noise about adding the option to toggle the Auto Wah parameter on the Seven (which I'll never use) to Touch Wah (which I love to bits on EP and clav).. poke

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Oh hell yeah! (but only if I can take credit for the change when it happens)

Unfortunately my Seven has done broke. Crumar thinks it's probably a failure of the internal power supply. Under warranty and they're sending a replacement, so all will soon be good again.
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#2952384 - 10/10/18 11:53 AM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Adan]
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I can only assume the update will be avail for the Gemini soon? I don't recall seeing anything specific.

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#2952396 - 10/10/18 12:52 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Adan]
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Originally Posted By: Adan
Originally Posted By: Grave Bryce
Now, all I need to do is get a bunch of people to make noise about adding the option to toggle the Auto Wah parameter on the Seven (which I'll never use) to Touch Wah (which I love to bits on EP and clav).. poke

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Oh hell yeah! (but only if I can take credit for the change when it happens)

Works for me...

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#2952420 - 10/10/18 05:11 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Mitch Towne]
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Originally Posted By: Mitch Towne
You guys haven’t even mentioned the major changes to the organ tone itself: totally rewritten keyclick (way more realistic in both sound and response now, with multiple adjustable parameters) and a better top octave response (much more smooth). Also, Guido has adjusted how the tonewheel leakage works. It sounds amazing.

Also, in the Leslie sim, Guido has added a bass port parameter that offers more bass response and a direct leak parameter that allows you to dial in some direct signal to the Leslie sim.

This is a MAJOR update and it’s like having a new instrument. This thing sounds alive.



Yes, and WOW!!
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#2952433 - 10/10/18 06:04 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: drawback]
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I wish they added the single pedal option of sostenuto pedal function for the organ. Many are probably wondering what I mean. I mean latch on only the notes played before the pedal is depressed. Thus it means the pedal sustains only those first notes that are being held down when the pedal is depressed, allowing future notes played to be unaffected. I find it very useful for Joe Zawinul pedal Intros where he would sustain a synth chord while he solos over it with another synth. It would be helpful on a single 61 note organ. Do you understand what I mean?

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#2952435 - 10/10/18 06:20 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: drawback]
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Crumar thinks it's probably a failure of the internal power supply. Under warranty and they're sending a replacement, so all will soon be good again.

Too bad they don't use wall warts. ;-)

Originally Posted By: Clawback
Originally Posted By: Mitch Towne
You guys haven’t even mentioned the major changes to the organ tone itself: totally rewritten keyclick (way more realistic in both sound and response now, with multiple adjustable parameters) and a better top octave response (much more smooth). Also, Guido has adjusted how the tonewheel leakage works. It sounds amazing.
...This is a MAJOR update and it’s like having a new instrument. This thing sounds alive.

Yes, and WOW!!

Wait, I thought the Mojo organ was already perfect? ;-)
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#2952451 - 10/10/18 09:04 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
Originally Posted By: Adan
Crumar thinks it's probably a failure of the internal power supply. Under warranty and they're sending a replacement, so all will soon be good again.

Too bad they don't use wall warts. ;-)



I know, it's a lot of inconvenience and extra effort for me, Crumar, and Kraft. And for Crumar it's also lost revenue.
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#2952453 - 10/10/18 09:06 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott

Wait, I thought the Mojo organ was already perfect? ;-)


well, now it's more perfecter. smile
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#2952462 - 10/10/18 11:47 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Delaware Dave]
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Originally Posted By: Delaware Dave
Originally Posted By: Frank Montis
Have you checked out the improvements to the leslie sim as well? I just did and the improvements to the sound in tremolo (which I didn't like before, yet) are amazing!
Frank, can you post a video with the new leslie sim so that we have an idea as to how the new ones sounds? Can't wait to get this into the Gemini module and eliminate the need for the Vent.


I'll try when I find the time, which I don't really have at the moment. I did post a little video on Instagram yesterday with the update applied, but without really messing with the settings. I messed with the settings on another Mojo61 and it sure seems like a great update, even though I have to find 'my' sound again after changing all the new parameters, but that will take just a little time.

As soon as I find the time I'l make a video, with the settings included.

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#2952463 - 10/10/18 11:50 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Originally Posted By: Grave Bryce
Now, all I need to do is get a bunch of people to make noise about adding the option to toggle the Auto Wah parameter on the Seven (which I'll never use) to Touch Wah (which I love to bits on EP and clav).. poke

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Hey Dave, how are you doing? smile

That WOULD be a nice option for sure. I'll try to tickle Guido :), although he probably reads here as well.

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#2952465 - 10/11/18 12:14 AM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Frank Montis]
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Originally Posted By: Frank Montis
Hey Dave, how are you doing? smile

Excellent, brother Frank! Hope same is true for you...

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That WOULD be a nice option for sure. I'll try to tickle Guido :), although he probably reads here as well.

I've mentioned it to him before...

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#2952470 - 10/11/18 01:48 AM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Originally Posted By: Grave Bryce
Originally Posted By: Frank Montis
Hey Dave, how are you doing? smile

Excellent, brother Frank! Hope same is true for you...

Quote:
That WOULD be a nice option for sure. I'll try to tickle Guido :), although he probably reads here as well.

I've mentioned it to him before...

dB


Yes brother Dave, all is pretty well! Thanks.

When enough people mention it maybe he starts thinking about it! smile

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#2952620 - 10/11/18 02:28 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: Frank Montis]
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Could someone help a brother out and post the OS 1.40 update for Mojo 61. I tried the website for 2 days and seems to be down. PM me or post would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much and can't wait to try the new updates out.

Thanks again,
Benny
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#2952628 - 10/11/18 02:40 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: bennyray]
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Originally Posted By: bennyray
Could someone help a brother out and post the OS 1.40 update for Mojo 61. I tried the website for 2 days and seems to be down. PM me or post would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much and can't wait to try the new updates out.

Thanks again,
Benny


PM sent
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#2952637 - 10/11/18 03:38 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: mate stubb]
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Thanks Dave and have a great day!

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#2952664 - 10/11/18 10:57 PM Re: Huge shout out to Crumar! [Re: bennyray]
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Just did the update, sure sounds good. I switched back to the default Organ , it sounds better now for sure.

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