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#2952054 - 10/09/18 04:44 AM Lights for Leslie
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Since I got my Motion Sound KBR-3D earlier this year, Iíve been thinking about finding a way to backlight the rotary horn, since the grill cloth obscures it and I move out of too many dusty clubs and vehicles to feel comfortable removing the grill. Jenny Conlee of the Decemberists has colored lights in/behind her Leslie 122 onstage so you can see it spinning, and I figure if Iím going through the trouble of running a real rotary speaker, I want the audience to know how cool I am (hahaaaa).

Wondering if anyone has set up anything like this that works for them. Iíd rather not add something too unweildy to my rig purely for aesthetics, and power outlets are always at a premium, too... Iíve thought about LED strip lights in or behind the rear vent, but is there a way to not take up more power strip real estate? Battery operated lighting? Somehow daisy-chain power off the amp the way you string together Christmas lights (I hear the electrical engineers among you screaming)? I also donít want to negatively effect the sound or ventilation.

Vain Hammond and Leslie enthusiasts, enlighten me! No pun intended, honest.
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#2952071 - 10/09/18 06:16 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: samuelblupowitz]
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I tried this with my MS Pro 3T/Low Pro, trying to back light it; it looked really cool but was kind of a PIA with tacking wires and having to plug the lights in. Flourescent lights put behind the leslie for me was effective as well since my model has louviers on all sides so you can see through to the back of the leslie from the front. Not sure if the KBR has back louviers or not so this option might not be as effective.
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#2952091 - 10/09/18 07:27 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: Delaware Dave]
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If the description is accurate you could try this:

Motion Light

Looks like it comes as a 5 pack, so you can light the entire top deck and not have to worry about throwing a switch. Since itís LED it shouldnít add any noise.

OR, you could get this and have your lights pre installed facepalm



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#2952102 - 10/09/18 08:34 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: lightbg]
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Forget lights, just paint the horn. That's what I did, and people did notice it.

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#2952108 - 10/09/18 09:05 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: The Ghastly MC]
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Get a 950



Busch.

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#2952114 - 10/09/18 09:32 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: burningbusch]
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Super Bright LEDS. For about $25 (at least thats what it cost me 2 years ago) you can get enough LEDs (they' come in a rope) to do your top and lower rotor) and the power supply and connectors to do the whole project. I actually plug the power supply into the leslie amp itself (draws next to nothing). I currently have one leslie loaded with green leds, but the other is going to be outfitted with DMX controlled LEDs so they sync to our light show.
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#2952115 - 10/09/18 09:32 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: Tonysounds]
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#2952119 - 10/09/18 10:03 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: Tonysounds]
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Remember if you mod it thinks like that hurt your resale value should you want to flip it in the future. My buddy in Mitty in the Followers backlit his 64 145. He is up here in Rochester.
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#2952128 - 10/09/18 10:41 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: Outkaster]
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Yep. Although the OP is modding a Motion Sound KBR3d, so the vintage damage is probably a moot point....or a poot moint. LD

Good news with SUPER BRIGHT LEDS....they are a strip (self-adhesive) and the adhesive works great. When you mount them correctly, not only aren't they visible (except for their glow), but they'll come off with no damage. Best place to mount is "inside" the upper lip moulding at the top of each rotor's cavity. The cable can be fed right through the corner opening of the shelf.


Edited by Tonysounds (10/09/18 10:42 AM)
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#2952138 - 10/09/18 11:07 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: samuelblupowitz]
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I have a 760 that I rescued from a barn. It needed some restoration, and the tolex peeled right off it due to years of sitting in the barn. A buddy repainted it black and it looked really cool but needed something more, so I installed a large MARSHALL logo on it. Really raises eyebrows, especially the reaction from guitar players! I even had it onstage next to Marshall stacks and it fit right in.

I'd post a pic but my website is down at the moment.

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#2952141 - 10/09/18 11:11 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: Tonysounds]
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Originally Posted By: Tonysounds
Yep. Although the OP is modding a Motion Sound KBR3d, so the vintage damage is probably a moot point...


was my first thought also
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#2952143 - 10/09/18 11:19 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: The Ghastly MC]
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I have a Motion Sound Pro 145. Like Tonysounds, I used a rope of LED lights and snaked it through to light up the upper and lower rotors. It looks awesome. I can change the color or set it on a program to fade from one color to another. Lots of people (bandmates and audience) comment on how cool it looks.

I bought something like this: LED rope lights from Amazon

BUT, the adhesive on the LED lights failed me after about a year, and it is a pain to open up the back of the Pro145 and I still haven't figure out a good way to stick them back up (or just pony up another $13 for a new strip of lights).

I run the lights on their own independent electric plug. And the remote control for the lights needs a clear line of sight to the end of the lights, which for me is sticking out the back of the Leslie and sometimes isn't a convenient line from where my keys are set up on stage.

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#2952144 - 10/09/18 11:22 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: Morrisseysixman]
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And I have to give credit to this guy, whose YouTube video first got me jonesin' to add lights. As he explains, he didn't install lights inside the Leslie but instead put shop lights behind the Leslie to backlight it.


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#2952172 - 10/09/18 12:38 PM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: samuelblupowitz]
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Someone should make a Leslie where the horn stays put and the entire cabinet rotates :-)

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#2952185 - 10/09/18 02:08 PM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: Zalman Stern]
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Originally Posted By: Zalman Stern
Someone should make a Leslie where the horn stays put and the entire cabinet rotates :-)

-Z-



Like this!
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#2952265 - 10/09/18 07:31 PM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: Zalman Stern]
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Originally Posted By: Zalman Stern
Someone should make a Leslie where the horn stays put and the entire cabinet rotates :-)
According to Mr. Einstein, as long as the rest of the universe (including you) join it in rotating around the horn, it should still work fine.
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#2952268 - 10/09/18 07:42 PM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: Tom Williams]
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mount a laser on the horn!
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#2952282 - 10/09/18 10:20 PM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Get a 950



Busch.


I remember seeing one of those at Northland Music when I was a boy.
It was amazing and Ive always tried to remember the name.
Thanks
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#2952345 - 10/10/18 07:59 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: Zalman Stern]
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Originally Posted By: Zalman Stern
Someone should make a Leslie where the horn stays put and the entire cabinet rotates :-)


There's a blonde joke in there somewhere...

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#2952565 - 10/11/18 11:18 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: The Ghastly MC]
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Originally Posted By: The Ghastly MC
Forget lights, just paint the horn. That's what I did, and people did notice it.


Did you just paint it a bright color, or something a little flashier? I hadn't considered that.

Thanks everyone for so many great suggestions! Very glad I've found a community of people who get into this stuff. My drummer and guitar player friends have a threshold...
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#2952568 - 10/11/18 11:35 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: samuelblupowitz]
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The 950 Leslie's were basically junk, they didn't catch on although I think its cool.
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#2952571 - 10/11/18 11:42 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: Outkaster]
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LED Christmas tree light strings. You can pick up multiple strings after the holidays for pennies on the dollar.

Just sayin'.

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#2952576 - 10/11/18 12:02 PM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: GRollins]
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I would probably do something wacky like strobe LEDs to make the rotor look like it's standing still in tremolo mode.

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#2952589 - 10/11/18 12:55 PM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: samuelblupowitz]
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Originally Posted By: samuelblupowitz
Originally Posted By: The Ghastly MC
Forget lights, just paint the horn. That's what I did, and people did notice it.


Did you just paint it a bright color, or something a little flashier? I hadn't considered that.


Just a bright color. I did one in white, another in gold.

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#2952604 - 10/11/18 01:50 PM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: The Ghastly MC]
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A white painted horn with black light looks boss. One can remove the rotor scrim and do some cool patterns with black light too.

I used to paint horns in those flourescent paint colors - yellow or pink or green.
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#2952723 - 10/12/18 10:04 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: matted stump]
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Neon angled stripes on the Baffle too.
Makes me wanna buy a Leslie.
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#2952728 - 10/12/18 10:24 AM Re: Lights for Leslie [Re: matted stump]
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Originally Posted By: matted stump
A white painted horn with black light looks boss. One can remove the rotor scrim and do some cool patterns with black light too.

I used to paint horns in those flourescent paint colors - yellow or pink or green.


Did the same. First I did it in white with a strobe light. (That was my old Speakeasy leslie which was all black, so ...it looked cool even when it wasn't lit up.)

Then I moved up to Flourescent orange. Putting in blacklight LEDs was the piece de' resistance.
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