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#2936919 - 07/09/18 01:38 PM Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha.
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Dealing with not seeing screen of keyboard, nor the iPad. is leading me to willingness to carry some kind of stand that will block the light which makes seeing the keyboard impossible.
I am doing more and more outdoor gigs, and need a solution.

Also , on a recent gig, my keyboard became an attraction for flying ants, or termites or whatever they were. I would not use an insecticide, but something to dissuade them from crawling all over the keyboard!
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#2936921 - 07/09/18 01:52 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: I-missRichardTee]
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Originally Posted By: I-missRichardTee
Dealing with not seeing screen of keyboard, nor the iPad. is leading me to willingness to carry some kind of stand that will block the light which makes seeing the keyboard impossible.
I am doing more and more outdoor gigs, and need a solution.


If only...

someone...

had asked...

about this...

before.

snax
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#2936931 - 07/09/18 02:29 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: Sven Golly]
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#2936949 - 07/09/18 03:51 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: Joe Muscara]
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#2936951 - 07/09/18 03:58 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: Sven Golly]
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#2936957 - 07/09/18 04:38 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: Sven Golly]
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Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
Originally Posted By: I-missRichardTee
Dealing with not seeing screen of keyboard, nor the iPad. is leading me to willingness to carry some kind of stand that will block the light which makes seeing the keyboard impossible.
I am doing more and more outdoor gigs, and need a solution.


If only...

someone...

had asked...

about this...

before.

snax


What gets me is why is it extra hot in the summer ? Then, in the winter, sometimes it gets cold. Outside.

Like WTF. Is there an app to fix this weather ? i will post this on the drummer forum in case no one has a solution

( silly post warning wink )
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#2936958 - 07/09/18 04:43 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: Sven Golly]
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Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
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Beep. evil


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#2936959 - 07/09/18 04:45 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: Sven Golly]
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Originally Posted By: Sven Golly

What those links have in common is that they are about playing outdoors, but they are not all about the sun issue. One was about heat, another was about rain, so not relevant to the question at hand.

But anyway, one answer I didn't see here or there (though I'm sure I typed it in yet some other related thread) is that I've been told that it's easier to read some of the screens outside if you wear the kind of polarized 3D glasses that are given out in movie theaters these days. Though I'm not sure whether if it needs to be a certain type, and I haven't tried it myself. I'd be curious to know if anyone tries it.
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#2936960 - 07/09/18 04:48 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
Originally Posted By: Sven Golly

What those links have in common is that they are about playing outdoors, but they are not all about the sun issue. One was about heat, another was about rain, so not relevant to the question at hand.

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#2936962 - 07/09/18 05:01 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: GregC]
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On my CP4, the first patch is "main piano". I can always get back it by hitting the button and scrolling all the way left.

"main piano" has strings on the layer and upright bass on the split.

If I can't see the screen...........I play "main piano" grin

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#2936964 - 07/09/18 05:09 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: Joe Muscara]
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Hahaha!!!

Here's a beepin answer for you regarding shading the screen on a keyboard.

When we started doing a lot of outdoor festival shows with stages that didn't have a lot of shade, I had a hard time seeing the screen of my old Triton Ex then my MOXF6

I then remember seeing the guy who's music I play (go figure) has had a solution since his days using his Prophet 5.

They created a little shade box that fits over the keyboard's screen.

here's a couple shots of it on his Triton






I created something similar out of aluminum sheet, and used velcro to attach it to my Triton Ex.

For insects, a couple citronella candles on the ground around your rig would work. At least it does for me out here in Tejas

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#2936982 - 07/09/18 07:14 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: EscapeRocks]
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I built something similiar using yellow sticky pads and some tape.
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#2936983 - 07/09/18 07:15 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: Sven Golly]
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Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
Originally Posted By: I-missRichardTee
Dealing with not seeing screen of keyboard, nor the iPad. is leading me to willingness to carry some kind of stand that will block the light which makes seeing the keyboard impossible.
I am doing more and more outdoor gigs, and need a solution.


If only...

someone...

had asked...

about this...

before.

snax


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#2936985 - 07/09/18 07:32 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: I-missRichardTee]
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Originally Posted By: I-missRichardTee
Also , on a recent gig, my keyboard became an attraction for flying ants, or termites or whatever they were. I would not use an insecticide, but something to dissuade them from crawling all over the keyboard!

Keyboards are definitely susceptible to persistent and annoying termite infestations as nearly everyone can attest.

They are attracted to the letters "board" in the word, "keyboard"

The North American termites have mutated to ignore the letters "key" in "keyboard" and are especially voracious.

Roliand has a joint research venture with Monsanto to eradicate these pests, but it probably won't be licensed to Yamoha for many years to come. In the mean time probably best to find an old source for DDT but be careful!
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#2937005 - 07/09/18 08:30 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: WesG]
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Originally Posted By: WesG
On my CP4, the first patch is "main piano". I can always get back it by hitting the button and scrolling all the way left.

"main piano" has strings on the layer and upright bass on the split.

If I can't see the screen...........I play "main piano" grin

(For everything else, there's organ)


Try doing that when you are playing 5 parts, including drums, and sometimes a MIDI song!
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#2937006 - 07/09/18 08:32 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Hahaha!!!

Here's a beepin answer for you regarding shading the screen on a keyboard.

When we started doing a lot of outdoor festival shows with stages that didn't have a lot of shade, I had a hard time seeing the screen of my old Triton Ex then my MOXF6

I then remember seeing the guy who's music I play (go figure) has had a solution since his days using his Prophet 5.

They created a little shade box that fits over the keyboard's screen.

here's a couple shots of it on his Triton






I created something similar out of aluminum sheet, and used velcro to attach it to my Triton Ex.

For insects, a couple citronella candles on the ground around your rig would work. At least it does for me out here in Tejas



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#2937034 - 07/10/18 04:09 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: I-missRichardTee]
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Asked a dozen times, but somehow, nobody has yet mentioned THIS Dinkum Cine Lens Shade?


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#2937037 - 07/10/18 04:24 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: GregC]
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Like WTF. Is there an app to fix this weather ? i will post this on the drummer forum in case no one has a solution

( silly post warning wink ) [/quote]

No, not quite, silly poster.


Edited by I-missRichardTee (07/10/18 04:30 AM)
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#2937066 - 07/10/18 07:18 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: analogika]
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Asked a dozen times, but somehow, nobody has yet mentioned THIS Dinkum Cine Lens Shade?

Nice idea, but I don't know where you would typically be able to clamp it on a keyboard. Maybe if you had a mic/music stand behind?
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#2937086 - 07/10/18 08:02 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: JazzPiano88]
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They are attracted to the letters "board" in the word, "keyboard"

The North American termites have mutated to ignore the letters "key" in "keyboard" and are especially voracious.


laugh laugh

I think Roland boards are safe.......all plastic.
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#2937094 - 07/10/18 08:09 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: AnotherScott]
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Asked a dozen times, but somehow, nobody has yet mentioned THIS Dinkum Cine Lens Shade?

Nice idea, but I don't know where you would typically be able to clamp it on a keyboard. Maybe if you had a mic/music stand behind?

All my keyboards are on stands...

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#2937095 - 07/10/18 08:14 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
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Asked a dozen times, but somehow, nobody has yet mentioned THIS Dinkum Cine Lens Shade?

Nice idea, but I don't know where you would typically be able to clamp it on a keyboard. Maybe if you had a mic/music stand behind?


Yes nice idea....but is it $90 nice??? wow... I will stick with my 3 dollar homemade one wink
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#2937096 - 07/10/18 08:16 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks

I created something similar out of aluminum sheet, and used velcro to attach it to my Triton Ex.


I never did make anything permanent, but a couple times in a pinch, I put something together out of cardboard and gaff tape that looked almost just like that.
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#2937099 - 07/10/18 08:21 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: J. Dan]
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I created something similar out of aluminum sheet, and used velcro to attach it to my Triton Ex.


I never did make anything permanent, but a couple times in a pinch, I put something together out of cardboard and gaff tape that looked almost just like that.


like

I've done that as well...but you know me, I have to create something when I am bored smile
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#2937104 - 07/10/18 08:56 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: analogika]
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Asked a dozen times, but somehow, nobody has yet mentioned THIS Dinkum Cine Lens Shade?

Nice idea, but I don't know where you would typically be able to clamp it on a keyboard. Maybe if you had a mic/music stand behind?

All my keyboards are on stands...

What stand do you have where this works? You'd need it to have a cross bar, and it would have to be pretty high (i.e. close to the keyboard), and also not overly obstructed in access by the keyboard... I can think of a whole lot of stands it would not work on (spider type, x-stands, z-stands, invisibles, standtastics, K&M 18880), I'm not sure of any it would work on, unless I'm visualizing this all wrong.
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#2937148 - 07/10/18 11:57 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: analogika]
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Asked a dozen times, but somehow, nobody has yet mentioned THIS Dinkum Cine Lens Shade?




There seems to be interest in this clamp, but how would it reach the screen?
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#2937171 - 07/10/18 01:15 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: analogika]
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Asked a dozen times, but somehow, nobody has yet mentioned THIS Dinkum Cine Lens Shade?



$90? I'd rather just hire a high school kid to put his hand over the screen for $25.
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#2937177 - 07/10/18 01:59 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: MathOfInsects]
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$90? I'd rather just hire a high school kid to put his hand over the screen for $25.


Rental model - OpEx not CapEx. Sunshield-as-a-service? It's the new disruptive machine-learning-of-things/blockchain-gamification/artificial-data-science-as-an-innovator - now with added security!

Cheers, Mike.


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#2937219 - 07/10/18 05:50 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: stoken6]
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I've been dealing with this problem when doing some AP. Here's my solution ( I believe this is the smallest hood they make ) :

Hood

I use one with my iPad Mini4 and it has a clamp system that holds it securely to the case, but that can be modified. They're made quite well, fold flat, and the bottom ( or lower ) panel has an elastic slit to enable screen access without reaching in from the top. Also, the picture shows the extender attached; I haven't needed that part. It's probably way more than you might need, but it does very well as a sunshade.

FWIW,

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#2937220 - 07/10/18 06:20 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: lightbg]
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Once we launch our Nuclear Weapons to black out the sky in order to block out our solar powered AI machine overlords (i.e. The Matrix) you won't have to worry about it anymore. Of course gigs will be limited to Zion, located in the depths of the earth and accessible only by sewer pipes. That said, the socket in the back of your neck may have a slick MIDI/Audio interface available. Plus you could jack in some training programs like the meaning of BEEP in the context of a Blues chart.

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#2937226 - 07/10/18 07:47 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: J. Dan]
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Of course gigs will be limited to Zion, located in the depths of the earth and accessible only by sewer pipes.

In other words, business as usual for my pub band.

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#2937228 - 07/10/18 07:55 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: CowboyNQ]
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Of course gigs will be limited to Zion, located in the depths of the earth and accessible only by sewer pipes.

In other words, business as usual for my pub band.


Hopefully the nukes wipe out those Funnel Web spiders....those things scare the bejesus out of me!
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#2937231 - 07/10/18 08:11 PM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: J. Dan]
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I wonder if you could make a nice shade out of a dryer exhaust vent....
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#2937239 - 07/11/18 12:45 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: J. Dan]
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Hopefully the nukes wipe out those Funnel Web spiders....those things scare the bejesus out of me!

With good reason - they're pretty bloody dangerous.

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#2937240 - 07/11/18 02:11 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: CowboyNQ]
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Hopefully the nukes wipe out those Funnel Web spiders....those things scare the bejesus out of me!

With good reason - they're pretty bloody dangerous.

Hey, I live in the epicentre of funnelweb territory, which is the reason I have a white finish on the pool, so I can spot my little mates on the floor before I dive in and avoid them, they take three days worth of air down with them. But why worry, the local hospital has the antivenom in stock at all times and I live within the 30 minute window - outside peak hour. What are we going to be in of fear next - Redbacks on the toilet seat at night? Coupla days in ICU and then back to playing.

For the OP, grab a slab of VB, cut the cardboard carton down to the required size and gaffer tape to your board. Enjoy the beer - there aren't many first world problems beer can't solve, right Tom?
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#2937247 - 07/11/18 03:09 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: Markay]
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Hopefully the nukes wipe out those Funnel Web spiders....those things scare the bejesus out of me!

With good reason - they're pretty bloody dangerous.

What are we going to be in of fear next - Redbacks on the toilet seat at night? Coupla days in ICU and then back to playing.

In my case it's redbacks hanging around the BBQ. Thorough inspection required before cooking! With beer in hand, of course Mark!

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#2937261 - 07/11/18 04:14 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: CowboyNQ]
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Beer and lots of mates, each with their own idea of how to cook a steak, sends the Redbacks running. Half time in SoO 3. Trust you are supporting the Blues. Nice to watch some hard hits and argy bargy after 2 weeks of low level contact in the World Cup.
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#2937285 - 07/11/18 07:09 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: Markay]
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Actually I'm a Maroons fan - perhaps an issue we can robustly discuss at our next micro hang if you're keen, with David (aka Nursers) invited too of course.

Apologies OP for the massive hijack - haven't done a daytime outdoor gig in about 4 years but I reckon a bit of tissue box-style cardboard and gaffa tape would go a long way, as per many suggestions in this and other threads.

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#2937299 - 07/11/18 07:47 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: CowboyNQ]
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Yeah, we will have organise another hang and get David and some more Sydneysiders involved.

Given the result I would prefer to leave further discussion of State of Origin till next year.

This thread coukd be hijacked? The only thing missing is a deeper examination of the meaning of life.
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#2937309 - 07/11/18 08:18 AM Re: Sunlight prevents seeing screen of Yamaha. [Re: Markay]
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Dan

Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth.

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