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#2932295 - 06/11/18 01:01 PM Re: Nord Stage Keyboards; The $3400 to $4500 decision [Re: AnotherScott]
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Lots of knob and fader boxes available to add to existing choice of keyboard.
Novation Zero, Behringer BCF, LaunchControl XL, Midi Fighter - many have lighted rings around the encoders to provide position feedback.
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#2932327 - 06/11/18 04:44 PM Re: Nord Stage Keyboards; The $3400 to $4500 decision [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Lots of knob and fader boxes available to add to existing choice of keyboard.
Novation Zero, Behringer BCF, LaunchControl XL, Midi Fighter - many have lighted rings around the encoders to provide position feedback.

Yes... and as I said, I like the LED rings around endless encoders. There's still nothing in a standalone box since the discontinued Ocean Beach that gives you the authentic design/spacing/feel for authentic 9-drawbar manipulation. I'm not sure what's available in good soft synth control these days, I haven't looked into it lately, but I believe the Novation Zero and the Behringer BCF are discontinued.
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#2932360 - 06/12/18 05:09 AM Re: Nord Stage Keyboards; The $3400 to $4500 decision [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Lots of knob and fader boxes available to add to existing choice of keyboard.
Novation Zero, Behringer BCF, LaunchControl XL, Midi Fighter - many have lighted rings around the encoders to provide position feedback.

Yes... and as I said, I like the LED rings around endless encoders. There's still nothing in a standalone box since the discontinued Ocean Beach that gives you the authentic design/spacing/feel for authentic 9-drawbar manipulation. I'm not sure what's available in good soft synth control these days, I haven't looked into it lately, but I believe the Novation Zero and the Behringer BCF are discontinued.


So I see, the key-less midi controller market seems to have moved toward a more niche/boutique/DYI scene.
Options:
Studio Logic SL MIXFACE price unknown!
Roland MX-1 $599.99
Novation LaunchControl XL $149.99
Akai MIDIMIX $99
Akai APC40MKII $299
Nektar Panorama P1 $299.99

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Arturia Keylab stuff (88, 61, 49 - I know faders on the right?) $199,$249, $799
Behringer Motor 49/61 looks interesting $399.99, $499.99
Novation SL MkII (also discontinued?)
MAudio Code 49/61 $299, $349
Akai MPK249/261 $399.99, $499.99
Novation Impulse 49/61 $299.99, $399.99
Novation Launchkey Mk2 49/61 $199.99, $249.99
Nektar Panorama P6 $599.99
Nektar LX88+ (looks like the studiologic Numa Compact 2x) $319.99
Nektar Impact LX61+ $199.99
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#2932368 - 06/12/18 06:08 AM Re: Nord Stage Keyboards; The $3400 to $4500 decision [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Even the NI Kontrol has just 8 sliders. But there are still some accessories for more control, Korg NanoKontrol remains a bargain. The SL Mixface looks like it could be nice.
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#2932388 - 06/12/18 07:23 AM Re: Nord Stage Keyboards; The $3400 to $4500 decision [Re: Al Quinn]
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Originally Posted By: Al Quinn

After swapping the springs the action on the E4D is great for organ.....


This is very interesting to read - did you detail this sawapping-springs experience here or on another forum? I would be interested in seeing how this is done.
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#2932497 - 06/12/18 08:36 PM Re: Nord Stage Keyboards; The $3400 to $4500 decision [Re: iluvchiclets]
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No, sorry I didn't detail the spring swap process. As I recall I found a YouTube video that explained how to take apart the Electro. Once apart it's pretty clear what needs to be done. You just need to be careful not to damage any of the ribbon cables. Importantly, I had a screwdriver that fit into the wider part of the springs but not the narrow part thereby allowing easy stretching of the springs. Using this screwdriver I was able to take springs off and put springs on quickly. Hope this makes sense.
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#2932962 - 06/15/18 12:53 PM Re: Nord Stage Keyboards; The $3400 to $4500 decision [Re: Al Quinn]
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Thanks for the reply. I've been unhappy with the "stiff" action on my Electro 3, and never imagined doing this.
I wonder how I would source new springs that are less soft?
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#2932970 - 06/15/18 01:38 PM Re: Nord Stage Keyboards; The $3400 to $4500 decision [Re: iluvchiclets]
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So, what should a mint Stage 2 HA76 cost?


Edited by Coker (06/15/18 01:38 PM)
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#2932990 - 06/15/18 03:23 PM Re: Nord Stage Keyboards; The $3400 to $4500 decision [Re: Coker]
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If helpful for reference, you can still get a new 2EX-88 on closeout at Kraft for $3,299.
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#2932993 - 06/15/18 03:45 PM Re: Nord Stage Keyboards; The $3400 to $4500 decision [Re: Coker]
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Originally Posted By: Coker
So, what should a mint Stage 2 HA76 cost?

The last one on eBay sold for $2,170 including shipping. But they don't pop up that often so there may be some latitude there. It's pretty desirable, as the last Nord 76 that had the TP40 action instead of the TP100 action that most people don't like as much (but results in lighter travel weight).
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#2933046 - 06/16/18 04:46 AM Re: Nord Stage Keyboards; The $3400 to $4500 decision [Re: iluvchiclets]
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Originally Posted By: iluvchiclets
Thanks for the reply. I've been unhappy with the "stiff" action on my Electro 3, and never imagined doing this.
I wonder how I would source new springs that are less soft?

I bought the spings from Syntaur. My contact was Sam Mims. Samís email is sales@sytaur.com. For me, the KYSP27 springs did the trick.
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#2933844 - Yesterday at 07:01 AM Re: Nord Stage Keyboards; The $3400 to $4500 decision [Re: Al Quinn]
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Originally Posted By: Al Quinn
Originally Posted By: iluvchiclets
Thanks for the reply. I've been unhappy with the "stiff" action on my Electro 3, and never imagined doing this.
I wonder how I would source new springs that are less soft?

I bought the spings from Syntaur. My contact was Sam Mims. Samís email is sales@sytaur.com. For me, the KYSP27 springs did the trick.


Thanks for the details!
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