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#2927136 - 05/15/18 09:01 AM My Casio CT-X700 arrived
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I ordered a CT-X700 from Amazon and open the box last night after 3 days to process and ship.

I connected my iPhone 5S via USB+Camera Adapter.

Opened the manual and found the MIDI Menu with Local On/Off setting and
turned off the internal sounds (more on that later).

Plugged my iPhone 5S into the mini AUX port and tried some IOS Apps.
The iPhone rests on a frictioned surface 2 inches above the USB port on the back panel.
I'll probably lay down some Velco since my iPhone and Telecaster already have Velco
pairs for using headphones with Amplitube in the garden.

The CT-X700 internals speakers seemed anemic for the AUX input but useful after inserting the 6 AA batteries and heading for the patio. I'll have to see if the AUX level is set below it's max capable volume. There's no extra volume knob for the AUX like the PX-560 has. Using AUM on the iPhone for a mixer interface will help fix this once the gain stage is set. I haven't tested the "headphone" out into an amp yet for signal quality.
I'm hope it works well into a PA for Open Mic use.

Keybed is sensitive but organ-like. The lack of "hammer" feedback delays gratification
on the Colossus brown for example but the Korg Module organs felt right along with some iTunes backing tracks.

It wasn't loud enough for anyone to call the police but not being forced to use headphones was a pleasure since the trees have a lot of songbirds and the Blackbirds
sing in the dead of night, praise Paul (with John/Yoko getting a 50/50 split).

The iPhone started to die and I tested my new 30,000 mHA battery unit and kept going.
The AA's in the CT-X700 are spec'ed to last 3 hours and AA's are pretty cheap.
There's a power adapter (wart on the wall end using an angle that let me use it sideways on a crowded power strip with only 1 opening).

The CT-X700 looks like the typical Casio Toy keyboard and is covered with features:

160 Songs with user slots too
195 Rhythms
600 Tones
*the internal speakers have more depth and power than an iPhone w/ AUX input
*excellent quality of sound sets
*any Tone can be called w a 3 digit code (take that PX-560 users!) KEYPAD INPUT
* 4 Registration buttons (Thanks PX-560 Casio engineers)

1.5"x4" LED SCREEN that helps teach the Tunes with small keyboard that shows the notes for "Fur Elise" phrase by phase to aid memorization. Maybe my wife will like this new toy for that alone. Can I input Moonlight Sonata? She memorized that in the 90's but has since forgotten how to play.

Any questions? Would I buy it again if it breaks? At $175? Yes, with One-click.


Edited by BitBucket (05/15/18 09:01 AM)

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#2927170 - 05/15/18 11:47 AM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: BitBucket]
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My favorite patch is the internal GM Organ2 #454. I like it more than my Korg Module plus organ pack. The CT-X700 Organ Bass #180 is great for split bass. The JS Organ #054 is playable too. I comp with Dynamic EP #20 or Mellow EP #037 Like Auger does... these are my total 4 Registration presets for gigs.
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#2927177 - 05/15/18 12:26 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Jazz+]
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I had a demo session with the CTX 700 about a week ago, but my headphone adapter went kaput on me. I think demoing anything properly requires head phones, and mine weren't functional unfortunately.

I thought the acoustic piano sample sounded pretty good overall. What I had a hard time finding was a Rhodes patch that worked for me.

My guess is that a lot of the extra sounds beyond the pianos and organs are pretty good. Casio always gives a lot of bang for the buck in this department. I still use " Velocity Flute" # 209 from my Casio WK 3000 for recording.

I haven't sprung for a CTX 700 yet.... I need a little more time with it. Plus there are some advanced CTX models coming out
"some day soon". Down Beat had the top of the line CTX whatever ad in last month's issue, but I am still not seeing them in stores, which is a shame.

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#2927198 - 05/15/18 02:16 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: LX88]
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Thanks for the report Bit. Do you have any thoughts about why you decided not get/wait the CT-X3000? I've been trying to decide if I really need anything that comes with X3000.

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#2927220 - 05/15/18 06:00 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Donsta]
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My CT-X3000/5000 video will be out next week which should clarify the differences between those and vs the CT-X700.
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#2927256 - 05/16/18 12:32 AM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Mike Martin]
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I opt'ed for the CT-X700 *now* because:

1. battery powered
2. $175 is below the value at which I need to tie the purchase to a gift
3. It was an impulse after someone said they couldn't get a CT-X700 and supply must be low
4. It has the right ports to be a battery powered controller to my iPhone 5S
USB MIDI
AUX IN 1/8th inch
Phono stereo out (headphones)
iPhone shelf on top
Headphones to play Korg Module/Gadgets throught the internal speakers

For a better keybed I already have a Casio PX-560 with great weighted keys sounds/rhythms/etc. and it also supports the IOS devices though Line In ports/Aux with external volume knob.

The CT-X700 fits in a backstrapped softcase so I can go to the wharf and
sit in with the buskers and play organ/string/pad accompaniement which I keep
promising to do.

Today I auditioned some Battery Powered Roland Cubes for a better PA. The smaller one might work in a back back. Maybe the BlackStar?

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#2927269 - 05/16/18 04:01 AM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Jazz+]
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
My favorite patch is the internal GM Organ2 #454. I like it more than my Korg Module plus organ pack. The CT-X700 Organ Bass #180 is great for split bass. The JS Organ #054 is playable too. I comp with Dynamic EP #20 or Mellow EP #037 Like Auger does... these are my total 4 Registration presets for gigs.


I will set these up immediately! You just saved me hours of auditioning Tones.

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#2927293 - 05/16/18 06:32 AM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: BitBucket]
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Bit, thanks for the response. The battery option is one I need as well. My understanding is the CT-X3000 has that.


Mike, thanks for the info about the new video coming out next week. I can wait that long before making a decision. I don't suppose you have any more info as to product release dates?
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#2927303 - 05/16/18 07:38 AM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Donsta]
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Originally Posted By: Donsta
Bit, thanks for the response. The battery option is one I need as well. My understanding is the CT-X3000 has that.


Yes that is correct

Originally Posted By: Donsta
Mike, thanks for the info about the new video coming out next week. I can wait that long before making a decision. I don't suppose you have any more info as to product release dates?


Looks like June 1 or a few days before here in the USA.
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#2927359 - 05/16/18 12:01 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Mike Martin]
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I am curious if the acoustic piano sample in the 700 is going to be similar to the 3000/5000.

Also.... as I recall in the past there were some updates on tones that might be available in the future. I am curious if this might be possible from the CTX series.

I do sense some disappointment in the organ department from what I am hearing online. I have seen so much potential from Casio going back to the WK 3000 and CTK 691, which was a baby version of the WK.

I just don't like it when all kinds of affects are added to organs. Ditto for EP/ Rhodes sounds BTW.

I am sorry, but phaser on a Rhodes is not a go - to thing for me. I might like it occasionally, but for practice ( probably 99% of my interest in the CTX) it would get in the way.

Some of the organ sounds that I am hearing online also sound like someone's opinion of what a rock organ should sound like. A classic other example of this are the Motif organ sounds. Not much I can use, because they mess them up too much.

OK... I guess I shouldn't have a beef with something that costs 175 dollars. Also , the market may not be aimed at pro players so much as whatever the mass market is supposed to be.

I might interject here that Williams managed to put in a pretty darn good Rhodes sound into an under 200 dollar unit ( the Legato) How did they manage to do that? Admittedly, the other sounds suck but I liked the Rhodes so much I bought one, just for the EP they offered.

If the CTX acoustic piano is usable for practice, I might still be into this . But I was puzzled by most of the organs and Rhodes offerings that I heard when I demoed the 700.

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#2927910 - 05/19/18 11:14 AM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: LX88]
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A CTX 700 finally showed up at the Guitar Center near me- used.

So I finally got to hear it with phones.

I will add a positive here, as to not sound like I am over complaining. The keybed feel is nice.

However... I miss the drawbar organ feature of the WK series.... as noted in previous posts. I am not in agreement with what they did with the organs.

Jazz Plus is right... The organ bass patch is pretty good.

The Wurli is pretty good as well. As are vibes, and many other extra sounds.

I am looking for something for light gigging and practicing and at this point I am going to wait to hear what they are offering on subsequent models.

I tried....

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#2928088 - 05/20/18 10:59 AM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: LX88]
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LX88, for light gigging you're not going to do better than an XWP1. edit: and a Vent.


Edited by David Loving (05/20/18 10:59 AM)
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#2928090 - 05/20/18 11:24 AM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: David Loving]
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Originally Posted By: David Loving
LX88, for light gigging you're not going to do better than an XWP1. edit: and a Vent.

I see the draw of these new models... better rompler sounds, built-in speakers, cheaper. But yeah, the XW-P1 has the 9 drawbar controls, and actually makes for a pretty good MIDI controller, allowing you to easily integrate sounds from Korg Module or whatever, and it has cool built-in synth functions with a decent amount of real-time control. Real MIDI connectors, too. And you can get that price down a bit with, say, a Lester K instead of a Vent. I guess i just comes down to budget and your personal priorities.
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#2928202 - 05/21/18 12:57 AM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: AnotherScott]
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I finally got my apartment dwelling piano playing daughter to take home an electronic keyboard after visiting. She size how much does it cost? $175. Ok iíll Take it since itís not expensive. Sheís proud. Bye-bye CT-X700. I might as you already. Maybe Iíll get another one. Or one of the bigger models.

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#2928282 - 05/21/18 09:09 AM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: BitBucket]
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A very nice Daddy smile
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#2928366 - 05/21/18 02:25 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Jazz+]
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I guess I had higher hopes for this since there have been several other Casio " portables" that I have really liked and found useful.

Yamaha has taken an approach to portables that seems that they don't want to put in sounds that might compete with upper end units.

Casio showed me with the WK 3000 series and CTK 691 that it is possible to get good sounds into a 200 to 300 dollar board.

But this series is over 10 years old.... more like 12 years if I remember correctly. I have been waiting.... patiently for them to up the ante.

Why am I taking this so seriously?

Because I really like I having something to take into the back yard, to the park, or maybe a rehearsal. Something I don't have to worry about if it were to get damaged.

And also...portables can be fun. The WK 3000 gets a pretty big sound and really can cut it in a low volume rehearsal without an amp in many cases.

I just hoped that some things might change in this newer series. But in the 700, out of 600 sounds many of the tones would really be a compromise, even compared to what the CTK 691 was capable of.

I am going to check out the other units in the CTX series, but I may not be in such a big hurry next time.

Meanwhile... I predict that the WK 3000's and CTK 691 and CTK 900 might become collectable in the not too distant future.

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#2928371 - 05/21/18 03:16 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: LX88]
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I am not a patch head, is that a word?. I only need two good sounds in any keyboard and I am set. One for comping and one for soloing. I listed the patch numbers above that fill that requirement for me in the CTX 700. I came up with five I love. The speakers sound nice, imo.
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#2928841 - 05/23/18 12:55 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Jazz+]
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
A very nice Daddy smile


I left out one important detail. She brought me home a Fender (Mex) Strat that she hasn't been playing much for me to play with. So, really a fair trade. I offered her any guitar I own in trade. She said "No thanks" so I put the new Casio on the table and she took it.

I loaded some IOS Pianos on her iPhone and put all the required cables in the Casio Box so she can open Pandora's Box for iPhone Music Apps too.

Sometimes the best way to influence your kids is to just leave some doors unlocked and wait...

On this trip she asked "What does this CMaj7 mean in the Fake Book? Why don't they just put C7?" I can't wait to hear her next time she visits... she consumes information rapidly and playing from Fake Books is a big leap. Last year she was just playing everything by ear that she liked to sing along with using basic chords.

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#2929057 - 05/24/18 12:05 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: BitBucket]
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I see that the CTX 3000 is now available and is going for $299.00. I was wondering if anyone has tried both and/or they have thoughts on the 700 vs 3000.
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#2929086 - 05/24/18 01:48 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Donsta]
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The 3000 has four speakers and is much louder. The other big advantage for me would be that you can run line out while the internal speakers are still sounding. I am not able to do that with the 700 which is a disadvantage. Those are the two reasons I would take the 3000 over the 700.
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#2929094 - 05/24/18 02:07 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Jazz+]
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Thanks Jazz+. I didn't know about the line out stuff.

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#2929141 - 05/24/18 06:08 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Donsta]
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Plenty of additional features on the CT-X3000 up from the 700:

- 200 more sounds (I am unclear if this involves more PCM or just programming)

- Tone editing (small subset of parameters, like filter cutoff, attack/release etc.)

- More effects (delays, 100 DSP effects), effect editing, DPS effect used in accompaniment

- 40 new Rhythms, some additional, some redesigned

- Rhythm/Style editing

- 4 Variation/Fill buttons

- ability to Layer 2 sounds on each side of the split

- 128 Registration memories (up from 32)

- Phrase Recorder w/4 pads

- USB audio recording/playback

- USB storage

- increased polyphony (64 up from 48)

- Pitch Bend wheel

- dedicated transpose buttons

- assignable pedal input

- larger, more powerful dual speakers

Hope this helps,

Jerry



Edited by jerrythek (05/24/18 06:22 PM)

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#2929144 - 05/24/18 06:55 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: jerrythek]
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Trying to wrap up a video I've been doing on the CT-X3000 and CT-X5000 and got into the effects editing which is extremely deep. I found 92 amp/speaker emulations within the distortion effects among other things. Like most things Casio there is much under the hood to be explored.
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#2929147 - 05/24/18 07:04 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Mike Martin]
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Thanks Jerry and Mike. The assignable pedal input, does that mean that it can used for either a damper or expression pedal but not both?

Thanks again
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#2929161 - 05/24/18 08:14 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Donsta]
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Originally Posted By: Donsta
Thanks Jerry and Mike. The assignable pedal input, does that mean that it can used for either a damper or expression pedal but not both?

Thanks again


It's a second pedal input, alongside the sustain/damper input. It can take either sweep or momentary pedals.

This might help you all:

Online manual

Regards,

Jerry

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#2929202 - 05/25/18 04:46 AM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: jerrythek]
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Thanks again Jerry. I should have thought to look for an online manual.

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#2929269 - 05/25/18 10:13 AM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: Donsta]
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I agree with Mike Martin that Casio goes pretty deep regarding effects editing, even going back to the WK 3000/ CTK691 .

I really liked the DSP editing function on these. You could change octaves within a split or layer and there were lots of useful effects and EQ ing options.

I have probably said it many times but on the WK drawbar organs, STEREO PHASER ( #006) works well for a chorale leslie effect if you do some simple editing.

One very simple way to make a chorale ( slow ) leslie effect is to edit on Stereo Phaser a parameter called " MANUAL" ( not sure what it means) from -12 to somewhere around + 12. This makes the phaser " wah" effect sound much more like a leslie slow spin, and affects the basic drawbar tonality in a very subtle way.

You don't get fast spin, but this chorale rivals some of the leslie sims that are out there on some recent clonewheel boards I have heard.

Also... I had a chance to check out a WK 200 in a shop the other day and was surprised how much I liked the acoustic piano sample.

If you pair it with the right headphones,the #001 and # 006 pianos don't sound too bad.

I am a Casio fan and supporter, so I am curious if the CTX 3000 and 5000 might give me an update on what I am looking for in a lightweight portable.


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#2929300 - 05/25/18 12:09 PM Re: My Casio CT-X700 arrived [Re: LX88]
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The CT-X3000/5000 Manual shows a few key differences:

X700 - 5W speaker system using wall power or 6 AA's

X3000 - 8W speaker system
can run for 10 hours on 6 D Cells
12V DC wall power adapter
1 Headphone/Stereo OUT jack

X5000 - 15W speaker system
AC power only
24V DC wall power adapter (to drive the extra speaker power)
Expression Button to trigger effects
R/L line phone outs *and* headphone jack
MIC input with Volume Knob w/ Reverb, Chorus, Delay Effects

The CT-X3000 is ideal for outdoor busking, beach play etc.

The CT-X5000 is ideal for "Piano Lounge" act augmented with a Mic. I'd imagine the MIC input would be useful for Guitar inputs. Not sure about that.

I need to replace my CT-X700 and Mike's demo video will certainly help me decide where to place my $'s.

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