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#2926578 - 05/11/18 12:41 PM Moog Grandmother
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Leak appearing on various forums, just before Mothers Day weekend.

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#2926589 - 05/11/18 02:15 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: GovernorSilver]
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Whoa! Looks very cool! Depending on how limited production is, I could see them selling a pretty good chunk of these.
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#2926591 - 05/11/18 02:41 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: MAJUSCULE]
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#2926621 - 05/11/18 11:54 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Michael Wright]
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#2926642 - 05/12/18 07:39 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: ksoper]
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Holding out for the the Grandfather edition. Limited memory, fat, reminds you constantly of the past.
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#2926653 - 05/12/18 09:49 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Gary75]
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Originally Posted By: Gary75
Holding out for the the Grandfather edition. Limited memory, fat, reminds you constantly of the past.


Also, some clubs only allow digital synthesizes with the exception of this one, because you're grandfathered in.
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#2926671 - 05/12/18 12:13 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Gary75]
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Originally Posted By: Gary75
fat, reminds you constantly of the past.

Great attributes, if you ask me...!

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#2926674 - 05/12/18 12:47 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Marzzz]
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#2926686 - 05/12/18 02:39 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: MAJUSCULE]
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Originally Posted By: MAJUSCULE
Whoa! Looks very cool!


My grandma looked much better !

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#2926687 - 05/12/18 02:40 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Gary75]
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Originally Posted By: Gary75
Holding out for the the Grandfather edition. Limited memory, fat, reminds you constantly of the past.


roll roll

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#2926688 - 05/12/18 02:44 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Gary75]
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Originally Posted By: Gary75
Holding out for the The Grandfarted *** Edition].


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#2926690 - 05/12/18 02:50 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: synthizen2]
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I don't know guys. I can't get excited about this. Moog just half-heartedly commits to this modular thing and besides the modular renaissance is just about over. It's not going mainstream anytime soon.

Would really have liked to see them release a polyphonic synth. That seems to be what the people have wanted for ages. Moogs other synths are dynamite but this one and the other oddball stuff like the Mother and a bunch of the Foogers do nothing for me.

Even Dave Smith seems to have aborted his modular run after putting out that filter. Modular is best left to the independents and small boutique guys. Moog needs to stick with mainstream giggable synths and should really be focusing all effort into a poly synth. That's something that would be actually exciting and really would sell.

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#2926697 - 05/12/18 03:45 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: MojoGuyPan]
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I actually though at first this was a joke photoshop mock-up.

Went to the link later.

Whoa. Didn't mean to be so glib.

[Looks again at synth picture & specs]: Okay nevermind I stand with what I said.
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#2926699 - 05/12/18 03:59 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: synthizen2]
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I was not able to find the product on the Moog website???
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#2926730 - 05/12/18 11:10 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Quai34]
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My vote would be for an updated Polymoog reissue. That was one sexy looking, great synth.
Come on, Moog!!!
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#2926731 - 05/12/18 11:18 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: analogman1]
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To misquote Pogo, "April Fool's come on a Sunday this month".

If the product was real, it would be called "Grandmooger". :-)
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#2926738 - 05/13/18 03:45 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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#2926743 - 05/13/18 04:35 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: analogman1]
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Originally Posted By: analogman1
My vote would be for an updated Polymoog reissue. That was one sexy looking, great synth.
Come on, Moog!!!



Don't hear too many crying specifically for Polymoog reissue but it's funny to me how many calls there are on various forum for a Moog poly. Aside from the well known Memorymoog reliability issues there was/is tons of criticism about the overall sound; doesn't sound like 6 minis (or even 1), takes up the entire mix, crappy midi implementation, doesn't hold tuning etc.

Not sure what people expect from a Moog brand poly and what it would even sound like. I think this is mostly people's imaginations getting the best of them and forgetting the realities of the past. I suspect if Moog ever does do a poly it would be heavily criticized for not sounding anything like a (fill in the blank). I wonder how well it would stack up against the other modern polys out there.

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#2926747 - 05/13/18 04:46 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Markyboard]
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Wonder how long it takes for someone to mod it with a low E.....
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#2926748 - 05/13/18 04:51 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Markyboard]
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I had one of the first MemoryMoogs and it was VERY problematic. For two years I spent a few hours every Sunday opening it up and tuning 18 oscillators for tune, range and scale. At the same time I had a Rhodes Chroma. Before each show I would hit the autotune button and a few seconds later it was good to go.
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#2926750 - 05/13/18 05:07 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Markyboard]
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Not sure what people expect from a Moog brand poly and what it would even sound like.


You could chain a Little Phatty with four Slim Phatty for a roughly $4k-$5k 5-voice Moog. If they had built a single unit tha housed all of it, costs would have been lowered by removing all the redundancies (5 power supples, 5 of each control and connector, etc.), though I'd also want some things that would shift cost the other direction... larger keyboard, more simulaneously available controls, etc. But I thought that would have been a cool foundaton for a modern Moog poly.
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#2926758 - 05/13/18 07:39 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: AnotherScott]
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But I thought that would have been a cool foundaton for a modern Moog poly.


Maybe, but it won't sound like any poly that people are really familiar with sound-character-wise. Unless Moog magically captures the sounds of a polyphonic mini or modular they'll end up with something in no-mans land. Sort of like (but different from) the Andromeda if they're lucky, or more accurately... if I'm lucky love .

That's when I'll be really interested - a new polyphonic analog that sounds a bit different with it's own unique flavor. But tbh I don't think it would sell well and rise above the known familiar classic re-issues. And so I'm not expecting a poly from Moog anytime soon if ever.

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#2926769 - 05/13/18 09:16 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Markyboard]
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#2926810 - 05/13/18 12:54 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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A Moog is a solo voice. The things that make it memorable and playable turn into mud when presented in polyphony. I base this on having owned a Mini and Multi and having run a friend's Memorymoog through its paces. Moog COULD release a poly-beast of some kind, but it wouldn't have much of an edge beyond being a Moog, especially as the poly field has developed. Its a unique flavor you have to take as it is. If Moog had to outsource for major digital components in a new polyphonic, it could easily end up like a cross between a train wreck and a dilution of their analog strengths. You address a Moog itch by placing one next to your other gear, not pining away for a new poly. If they want to offer modular connections, that's sensible, but I'll be very surprised if they offer a new Polymoog.
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#2926857 - 05/13/18 07:00 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: David Emm]
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Maybe if Moog made a poly simialiar to the 4 voice oberheim with the SEM's...
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#2926883 - 05/14/18 04:00 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: analogman1]
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Pretty good joke - almost got me.

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#2926913 - 05/14/18 07:06 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Markyboard]
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Originally Posted By: Markyboard
Pretty good joke - almost got me.



That's $100 lower than what I initially read.

So for a couple more hundred bucks over the Mother 32, you can have a grandma w/ 32-key keyboard, 1 more oscillator, spring reverb, etc.


Edited by GovernorSilver (05/14/18 07:09 AM)
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#2926982 - 05/14/18 12:52 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: GovernorSilver]
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Thanks to GovernorSilver for summarizing the differences vs. the Mother 32.

I didn't expect Moog to put out something so reto-late-70's-to-early-80's junk-synth looking. So it seemed likely to be a paste-up job.

Just a few minutes ago, I received Moog's official email announcement, and the first 500 units have shipped exclusively to Guitar Center. Interesting.

The obvious first question will be what the keybed is, and its MIDI functionality. The Voyager is still the most fully-featured and accurate synth keybed I've ever used (Note Off Velocity, all 127 steps of mono-pressure and other MIDI CC's, accuracy, etc.).

The look of this thing is gaudy and beautiful at the same time. I originally thought it was a paste-up job and an example of some 500-series modules being hosted in a 500 "rack" attached to a keyboard, but now it seems more like a specific dedicated synth design with a continuous panel.

I can't do more than skim this sort of stuff while at work, even when eating lunch, so don't shoot me if my questions are already answered in the detailed product description. I'll read that and study it in depth tonight, or later this week. But suddenly I'm actually interested in this, as the DFAM already had my attention.


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#2926987 - 05/14/18 01:15 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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A few demos, one more conventional than the other:





I'd characterise the look as "funky". smile Sounds pretty good to me too... Decent features for a monosynth that size I'd think.
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#2927019 - 05/14/18 05:11 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: MAJUSCULE]
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Yeah, now that I think about it, it has sort of an Electro-Harmonix look to it, which is indeed funky.
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#2927030 - 05/14/18 06:35 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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#2927031 - 05/14/18 06:36 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: GovernorSilver]
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And.....

In case anybody hasn't already found it, the official product site with specs, manual, etc. etc.

https://www.moogmusic.com/products/semi-modular/grandmother
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#2927032 - 05/14/18 06:46 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: GovernorSilver]
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I have to ask... exactly who decided on a case utilizing several chalky versions of 50s Chem-Tone paint? Surely it'd sound better if it was red, maybe with some nice racing-car flames. The signature Ed "Big Daddy" Roth Rat Fink model would probably be a hit with whatever passes for a punk in the synth world now. I'm too old to know or care, sorry! puff
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#2927040 - 05/14/18 07:14 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: David Emm]
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Originally Posted By: David Emm
I have to ask... exactly who decided on a case utilizing several chalky versions of 50s Chem-Tone paint?


The kids over on Reddit r/synthesizers seem to think it's "fresh." The instrument looks like a lot of fun but the colors remind me too much of the meh period of Moog architecture. With components modeled after classic modules though, there appears to be more to it than just a pretty face.

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#2927046 - 05/14/18 08:07 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Markyboard]
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Pretty good joke - almost got me.
What joke? Am I that dense?
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#2927050 - 05/14/18 08:38 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Tom Williams]
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Maybe Mark Mothersbaugh was the conceptual designer?

I'm not even kidding -- he's probably one of the most famous still-alive advocates and wizards of Moog synths.


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#2927074 - 05/15/18 03:15 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Tom Williams]
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Originally Posted By: Markyboard
Pretty good joke - almost got me.
What joke? Am I that dense?


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#2927106 - 05/15/18 06:50 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Tom Williams]
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Originally Posted By: Markyboard
Pretty good joke - almost got me.
What joke? Am I that dense?


You're not the only one. I'm lost, too.

Reminds me of a party I went to at the beach once upon a time. At random intervals all the guys would drop to the floor, lie on their backs, and wave their arms and legs in the air, like a dying bug. Everyone though it was hilarious except me and my buddy. I'd gone there in pursuit of a girl I'd met on the beach earlier in the day, but after an hour of being an outsider-looking-in I gave up and left.

For the record the girl thought it was hilarious, too, but was unable or unwilling to explain the joke. Whatever.

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#2927172 - 05/15/18 11:48 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: GRollins]
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This one looks cool, most likely sell the initial 1,000 built.
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#2927193 - 05/15/18 02:03 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: GRollins]
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Originally Posted By: GRollins

At random intervals all the guys would drop to the floor, lie on their backs, and wave their arms and legs in the air, like a dying bug. Everyone though it was hilarious except me and my buddy. I'd gone there in pursuit of a girl I'd met on the beach earlier in the day, but after an hour of being an outsider-looking-in I gave up and left.

For the record the girl thought it was hilarious, too, but was unable or unwilling to explain the joke. Whatever.

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Ever see Animal House? They are doing the Gator. See the 2:36 mark.

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#2927199 - 05/15/18 02:20 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: analogman1]
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Maybe if Moog made a poly simialiar to the 4 voice oberheim with the SEM's...

That's kind of what you got by stacking 3 Slim Phattys off a Little Phatty. Moog didn't make a chassis for them, but you could put them in a compact rack. I had actually thought about dong it. The units are so shallow, you could easily put them in quite a small rack, splitting them between front and rear rail mounting, if you didn't need to see all the panels at once. Two on one side, one on the other, where there other also has space for a shallow line mixer and shallow mountable AC strip.
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#2927208 - 05/15/18 03:37 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: mate stubb]
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Originally Posted By: GRollins

At random intervals all the guys would drop to the floor, lie on their backs, and wave their arms and legs in the air, like a dying bug. Everyone though it was hilarious except me and my buddy. I'd gone there in pursuit of a girl I'd met on the beach earlier in the day, but after an hour of being an outsider-looking-in I gave up and left.

For the record the girl thought it was hilarious, too, but was unable or unwilling to explain the joke. Whatever.

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Ever see Animal House? They are doing the Gator. See the 2:36 mark.







Nah, Animal House was 1978...this was more like '73 or '74. Plus the Animal House thing looks like they're having epileptic seizures, this was a more deliberate sorta walking (except upside down) motion. All I could gather was that it was some sort of thing peculiar to their high school, wherever that was--lost in the mists of time, I'm afraid. Not that anyone at that school still does it...surely not?

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#2927209 - 05/15/18 03:39 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: analogman1
Maybe if Moog made a poly simialiar to the 4 voice oberheim with the SEM's...

That's kind of what you got by stacking 3 Slim Phattys off a Little Phatty. Moog didn't make a chassis for them, but you could put them in a compact rack. I had actually thought about dong it. The units are so shallow, you could easily put them in quite a small rack, splitting them between front and rear rail mounting, if you didn't need to see all the panels at once. Two on one side, one on the other, where there other also has space for a shallow line mixer and shallow mountable AC strip.


Dude, you keep talking like that, people are going to start calling you "AnotherGrey" instead of AnotherScott...

My interest in polychaining was met with almost as much derision as my deep oscillator concept.

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#2927225 - 05/15/18 06:58 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: GRollins]
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Originally Posted By: mate stubb
Originally Posted By: GRollins

At random intervals all the guys would drop to the floor, lie on their backs, and wave their arms and legs in the air, like a dying bug. Everyone though it was hilarious except me and my buddy. I'd gone there in pursuit of a girl I'd met on the beach earlier in the day, but after an hour of being an outsider-looking-in I gave up and left.

For the record the girl thought it was hilarious, too, but was unable or unwilling to explain the joke. Whatever.

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Ever see Animal House? They are doing the Gator. See the 2:36 mark.







Nah, Animal House was 1978...this was more like '73 or '74. Plus the Animal House thing looks like they're having epileptic seizures, this was a more deliberate sorta walking (except upside down) motion. All I could gather was that it was some sort of thing peculiar to their high school, wherever that was--lost in the mists of time, I'm afraid. Not that anyone at that school still does it...surely not?

Grey


Yeah, the film was done in 78, but they were depicting the 60's. The Gator and other novelty dances were around before you saw it.

Some background:
https://sites.google.com/site/gatorpile/
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#2927271 - 05/16/18 04:12 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Al Coda]
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Originally Posted By: Al Coda
Originally Posted By: Gary75
Holding out for the The Grandfarted *** Edition].


***fixed

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Don't forget the Germany only edition, the Grossfarter

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#2927298 - 05/16/18 07:15 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: BuckW]
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I'd rather just get a Dreadbox Abyss for 4-voice poly analog, or a DSI Prophet 6 module for the 6-voice than a stack of Slim Phatty's but hey if you have the money, room, and determination...

Back to topic... I was going to post a pic that an early customer posted upon reception of his Moog Grandma, but it's too big. The Moog jacket will be embroidered to order. Seems happy with the sound of the Grandma.


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#2927528 - 05/17/18 11:43 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: hardware]
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As long as people still keep buying Mini Clones they won’t go away.
This one looks cool, most likely sell the initial 1,000 built.


Guitar Center has "Sold Out" posted on the front page of it's website and Musician's Friend just says "Call us".
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#2927545 - 05/17/18 01:14 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: davedoerfler]
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Yeah I checked on Guitar Center yesterday, only to learn that they're sold out. They do have other Moog products on sale though, as part of their up-to-20% off Moogfest promo.

I don't consider this a Minimoog clone at all, btw. Yeah, they used the Minimoog oscillator design, but the rest of the synth is taken from the 900-series Moog modular line; and early reports say it sounds "angrier" than a Model D.


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#2927558 - 05/17/18 03:20 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: GovernorSilver]
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One envelope generator is a non-starter for me. It's just below what I consider the bare minimum complement for a synthesizer voice.
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#2927575 - 05/17/18 05:22 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: mate stubb]
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Originally Posted By: mate stubb
One envelope generator is a non-starter for me. It's just below what I consider the bare minimum complement for a synthesizer voice.


Dude,
Watch it. I've developed a bad reputation around these parts talking that way. Okay, I was talking oscillators, not envelopes, but still...be careful. That way madness lies.

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#2927577 - 05/17/18 05:49 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: GRollins]
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I'm all for artistic experimentation and whatever, but I thought that we already made all of those sounds when we were figuring out how to make music with these things. Based on the sounds in the videos in this thread, I cannot figure out why Moog bothered to give Grandmother a keyboard. idk

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#2927590 - 05/17/18 07:12 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: mate stubb]
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Originally Posted By: mate stubb
One envelope generator is a non-starter for me. It's just below what I consider the bare minimum complement for a synthesizer voice.


Moog wants you to buy another device to supply a 2nd envelope. Like, maybe, a Mother 32.

Just like they left the DFAM limited in various ways - to encourage DFAM owners to buy something else to CV patch it with, like, a M32 or perhaps the Grandmother.

Honestly though if I had your modular rig, I wouldn't even be looking at any of these Moogs - why would I if I had that modular?


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#2927616 - 05/17/18 09:57 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: GovernorSilver]
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Originally Posted By: GovernorSilver

Moog wants you to buy another device...


of course they do. wink
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#2927673 - 05/18/18 08:07 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: BuckW]
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Originally Posted By: BuckW


Don't forget the Germany only edition, the Grossfarter


laugh

I prefer english, so "Grandfarter" worked for me too.

smile

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#2927782 - 05/18/18 05:07 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: GovernorSilver]
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Honestly though if I had your modular rig, I wouldn't even be looking at any of these Moogs - why would I if I had that modular?


Pssst. I sold off the modular rig to fund building my organ controller a few years ago. Am currently analog synthless.
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#2927842 - Yesterday at 03:38 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: mate stubb]
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I went through the user manual last night. It's actually a very well endowed budget synth. The patch points are comprehensive and definitely cover the bases. As someone pointed out having other semi-modular/modular gear along with this (doesn't have to be Moog) "plugs" any deficiencies. Only thing I'd be missing is after touch.

If you're looking for that one do it all synth to gig with on top of your rompler/clone type keyboard then there's probably better choices. Otherwise if the sound is there (and I'm betting it is) I think this is a pretty cool little synth.

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#2927868 - Yesterday at 07:41 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Markyboard]
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This would have been my gateway into the Eurorack modular world. Those who bought it without previous modular experience will eventually find themselves buying external envelope, LFO, etc. modules to cross patch with their new Moog, thus slipping ever deeper into the modular money pit.

I dodged a bullet there wink
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#2927875 - Yesterday at 07:59 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: GovernorSilver]
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Originally Posted By: GovernorSilver
This would have been my gateway into the Eurorack modular world. Those who bought it without previous modular experience will eventually find themselves buying external envelope, LFO, etc. modules to cross patch with their new Moog, thus slipping ever deeper into the modular money pit.

I dodged a bullet there wink



Or you eventually buy a small format semi-modular with those desired additional parameters - and more. Something like a SEM would do it giving you the Oberheim flavor as well. Maybe a better option for some than a more comprehensive all Moog synth.

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#2927894 - Yesterday at 09:29 AM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: Markyboard]
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Fair enough, Mark. You do have a sweet little setup around that SEM. I was drawn in by the "starter package" concept - sequencer/arp, over 40 patch points, color coded "modules", keyboard, spring reverb, etc.

Some Grandmother demos by an early adopter:

https://soundcloud.com/artfluids/sets/moog-grandmother-demos


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#2928015 - Yesterday at 11:14 PM Re: Moog Grandmother [Re: mate stubb]
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Originally Posted By: mate stubb
One envelope generator is a non-starter for me. It's just below what I consider the bare minimum complement for a synthesizer voice.


Maybe this is a "hack", but you could do something like switch the synth to "drone" (so the main envelope is totally out of the picture, unless you mult it and repatch in to the VCA CV input or something), use the keyboard gate out to "kick"/reset the LFO, then use the LFO as another "envelope". If you use the second envelope setting, you can do that and still get the release off of the envelope generator. Run the LFO through the attenuator to make your "envelope" go positive or negative too.

In a similar vein, you could use the arpeggiator to essentially turn the envelope generator into another LFO (tempo-synced, even) If you want more than one of those.

It would be nice to have a fully-controllable second envelope, but I think there are probably other ways to eek out envelopes that I'm not considering, so you could perhaps get two or three (or more) that may be envelope-y enough for your purposes.
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