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Hi Nils,

 

Doesn't the VR:s have the possibillity to add som sustain to the organ bass?

unfortunately it does not work. Just tried to add some General-Midi Sustain/Hold to the bass, sustain has no effect and hold switches the note to endless :)

 

One idea could have been to make a virtual registration memory with a couple of registrations buttons on PC screen perhaps 8. Then you could possibly have an unlimited number of registration files with 8 registrations to recall on PC and then when pressing a registration button the PC should set up the intrument.

But that might be tricky and perhaps no wishes for it.

 

yeah, this is already on the 'maybe on day' list :)

It's not complicated but very time consuming as we have to completely decrypt the binary UPG-file: change VR controllers one by one, save the registration, export it to the upg-file, switch the usb-stick to the pc, compare which byte or - very annoying - combination of bytes has changed :: da capo :: - - - that's what we did to get the registration- and soundnames but this was 10 out of 100(?) controllers :)

 

 

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Ciao Franky

 

please explain me why working with CTRLR and your panel we do not have any *.dat file in USB pen.

 

Happy Easter to all the readers.

 

the VR only saves a .dat file when:

- you apply 'deep synthesis' (SYNTHESIZER on ipad or Editor) to a sound

- then save this sound to a registration

- then save the registration set to usb.

 

As long as you do no 'deep synthesis', the VR does not save a .dat file.

To get a .dat file of the 'firmware' registrations, reset the VR (master reset), select a registration with 'synthesiable' sound (the red arrows point to the SEL-buttons), then change one SYNTH-parameter, save the registration, then save the whole registration set to usb. There should now be a dat-file. Delete it.

Change the SYNTH-parameter back, save this registation again and the whole registration set to usb. A new dat-file should be there, this time with the 'original' firmware settings.

 

Please do not ask me to decrypt the .dat file :)

 

 

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http://www.rrr.de/~franky/upload/ostereis.jpg

 

With a minor delay :) :

 

EDITOR v1.12(6) feature update

 

http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor

 

+ new colour design

+ master fine tune

+ midi-reset/reconnect

+ D-BEAM

+ damper and expression pedal setting for UPG-registrations

+ registration list text export

+ lots of bugfixes and (internal) improvements

+ tutorials in html (a bit nicer than the old hard core ascii)

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EGGcellent! Thank you so much! :)

Gig setup: Nord Stage rev.B, Roland VR-09, double braced X-stand w/attic for the VR.

Home key situation: Casio Celviano AP450, Homebuilt digital pipe organ w/Hauptwerk software

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Hello. I'm really interested in VR-09 as far as i need versatile keyboard but it had poor midi implementation. I'm completely noob in soft stuff but i need to figure out whether VR Editor allows more control to midi like sliders and other controllers0. Can you help me, is it true? Thanks.
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midi implementation

could you explain more in detail what you'd expect from the midi implementation? Use cases?

 

I mean, being able to use sliders, and buttons and so on for, for example, in VST. Because as i understand you can use for midi aimes only keys and pedals. Correct me

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I mean, being able to use sliders, and buttons and so on for, for example, in VST. Because as i understand you can use for midi aimes only keys and pedals. Correct me

 

you can control (nearly) everything with sysEx. Also from VST.

take a look here: this is all with sysEx: ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor. BTW the Editor app also runs as VST.

 

 

Announcements EDITOR feature update v.1127 (soon to come): "GAIA + Hammond + quality"

 

- Hammond style 2nd drawbar set + registrations

- Synthesizer: BIG upgrade: the synthesizer (surprise surprise - defacto a Roland SH-01 Gaia) gets its own registration (128x8 banks + 6 favorites), so no need to overwrite the build-in VR-sounds any more

- quality : I think v1126 was so lala , v1127 will be fully tested

 

 

http://ctrlr.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/previewSYNv127s.gif

 

http://ctrlr.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/previewORGv127s.gif

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Wow and WOW again. Okay franky46, you've caused me to actually start seeking a laptop. I'm a hardware guy that has mostly avoided the VST universe (except for my not-so-secret iPad addiction). Your coding for this instrument is simply mind blowing. Did I say "WOW"?
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Wow and WOW again. Okay franky46, you've caused me to actually start seeking a laptop. I'm a hardware guy that has mostly avoided the VST universe (except for my not-so-secret iPad addiction). Your coding for this instrument is simply mind blowing. Did I say "WOW"?

 

+1

LIFE IS SHORT, GO GET THE GEAR YOU WANT ;-)

 

 

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Wow and WOW again. Okay franky46, you've caused me to actually start seeking a laptop. I'm a hardware guy that has mostly avoided the VST universe (except for my not-so-secret iPad addiction). Your coding for this instrument is simply mind blowing. Did I say "WOW"?

 

thanks for the nice words, it's my pleasure.

as for the laptop, I deny any responsibility for lethal hard attacks caused by Microsoft products :)

 

No, I'm joking, since Win7 the MS-OS is very very usable (this from a unix adept...)

A convertible/2-1 like the Windows Surface with separable screen and keyboard can be used as tablet on top of a instrument.

There are a lot of models in every price and performance range, e.g. I'm using a low spec HP-X2 (that was originally bought for motorcycle journeys https://forums.musicplayer.com/images/icons/default/grin.gif) , for the VR editor it's ok but for displaying notes the screen size is - - small. The Germans gave a tip named Chuwi HI13 with a hi res 13.5" screen.

 

 

 

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Here we are, EDITOR v1.12(7) released

 

what's new:

 

- EDITOR registration independent from VR-Keyboard, where you can save deep-synth patches without overwriting the original VR-sounds

- SYNTHESIZER: (Roland SH-01 Gaia clone) : improved optics, partials multi-select

- Hammond style 2nd drawbar set + presets

- hopefully less bugs than in v1.126

- for other changes see README and Docu in zip-download file

 

download: ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor

 

 

http://ctrlr.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/VComboEditor_syn.gif

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Hi Franky46

I haven't been able to find a waltz rhythm midi file from my searching, probably don't know where to look...can you offer any suggestions on where I might find such a file

Regards

Deadly

 

Instead of a MIDI file, if you have the latest 1.12 firmware, you could load a short waltz wav into the looper from a USB stick. It won't synchronise with the tempo, but that's what the tap tempo button is for.

 

I've grabbed a few things from these sites in the past:

 

https://www.guitarbackingtrack.com/

 

https://www.looperman.com/

 

https://freesound.org/

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the idea of the looper (loading an audio file or recording your own rhythm on the drum pad sets) is a gread idea :)

 

 

OR download a 3/4 on net: http://midieditor.sourceforge.net/index.php?category=intro

+ use a simple midi editor like this: http://midieditor.sourceforge.net/index.php?category=intro

to delete the 'instrument channels' in the midi file.

a video howto use the editor:

 

OR use the midi-editor to compose our own basic 3/4 pattern in 5 minutes or spend more time to compose en entire drum track with variations, breaks etc.

 

OR playing the drumsets of the VR09 and record a 3/4-pattern as midi-file (see VR manual), then use the midi-editor to replicate the pattern to create a ... 10 min. 'song'

 

OR use a rhythm tool like this : http://mididrum.en.softonic.com

 

OR... use a more sophisticated midi editor like (free) Anvil studio with a dedicated 'rhythm track composer'

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Oh my god. Updating the firmware on my VR-09 is one of the best things I've done this year. So many awesome new features: wired access to the iPad editor, improved organ functionality, a looper metronome AND the ability to fly in WAV samples into the looper. I'm falling in love with this board all over again.

 

Soul, R&B, Pop from Los Angeles

http://philipclark.com

 

Cannonball Gerald Albright Signature Alto, Yamaha YC73, Fender Rhodes, Roland Juno-106, Yamaha MX61, Roland VR-09, MicroKorg XL, Maschine Mikro, Yamaha Reface CP, Roland MKS-50

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Here we are, EDITOR v1.12(7) released

 

what's new:

 

- EDITOR registration independent from VR-Keyboard, where you can save deep-synth patches without overwriting the original VR-sounds

- SYNTHESIZER: (Roland SH-01 Gaia clone) : improved optics, partials multi-select

- Hammond style 2nd drawbar set + presets

- hopefully less bugs than in v1.126

- for other changes see README and Docu in zip-download file

 

download: ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor

 

 

http://ctrlr.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/VComboEditor_syn.gif

 

Franky, this is INSANE. I downloaded it and can't wait to put it through its paces.

 

I'm having one problem. I can get the editor to recognize my control changes from the VR, but I can't the synth to respond to changes from the editor. I think I have everything set properly, but I'm not sure. HELP?

Soul, R&B, Pop from Los Angeles

http://philipclark.com

 

Cannonball Gerald Albright Signature Alto, Yamaha YC73, Fender Rhodes, Roland Juno-106, Yamaha MX61, Roland VR-09, MicroKorg XL, Maschine Mikro, Yamaha Reface CP, Roland MKS-50

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Here we are, EDITOR v1.12(7) released

 

what's new:

 

- EDITOR registration independent from VR-Keyboard, where you can save deep-synth patches without overwriting the original VR-sounds

- SYNTHESIZER: (Roland SH-01 Gaia clone) : improved optics, partials multi-select

- Hammond style 2nd drawbar set + presets

- hopefully less bugs than in v1.126

- for other changes see README and Docu in zip-download file

 

download: ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor

 

 

http://ctrlr.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/VComboEditor_syn.gif

 

Franky, this is INSANE. I downloaded it and can't wait to put it through its paces.

 

I'm having one problem. I can get the editor to recognize my control changes from the VR, but I can't the synth to respond to changes from the editor. I think I have everything set properly, but I'm not sure. HELP?

 

Disregard (kind of). I was able to get the standalone version to sync up, but the CTRL version is not giving me a two-way connect.

 

Soul, R&B, Pop from Los Angeles

http://philipclark.com

 

Cannonball Gerald Albright Signature Alto, Yamaha YC73, Fender Rhodes, Roland Juno-106, Yamaha MX61, Roland VR-09, MicroKorg XL, Maschine Mikro, Yamaha Reface CP, Roland MKS-50

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Disregard (kind of). I was able to get the standalone version to sync up, but the CTRL version is not giving me a two-way connect.

 

hello Dreamchilde,

which version of CTRLR did you install?

Franky

 

Ctrlr-5.5.2.exe

Soul, R&B, Pop from Los Angeles

http://philipclark.com

 

Cannonball Gerald Albright Signature Alto, Yamaha YC73, Fender Rhodes, Roland Juno-106, Yamaha MX61, Roland VR-09, MicroKorg XL, Maschine Mikro, Yamaha Reface CP, Roland MKS-50

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Stupid question might be, but i need to get an answer. Is there any sense to buy Roland VR-09 with Editor for MIDI or simply get AKAI MPK261?

The two have little in common other than having keys. Akai has no sounds and is designed primarily to use with computer VSTs. Roland has internal sounds, and is not well designed to control VSTs (drawbars don't send MIDI CC, etc.). What is it you're trying to do?

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Pedal sustain is an important feature? They didn't even include it with the Hammond B3!

Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3

Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H

Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9

Roland: VR-09, RD-800

 

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Trying to use it for recording/educational purpose. As VR-09 has now Editor on CTRLR, can it be a replacement instead of Akai MPK261? I dont really completely understand this Editor if it allows me to match everything on keyboard for VST aims. I'm into VSTs, but mobillity and in-built sounds is nasty stuff of VR-09 and it's buying me.
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