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#2923162 - 04/24/18 11:47 AM Recent Guitar News
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We have a thread going on the other forum that I thought might be of interest here?

Tronical to sue Gibson for $50 million
By Michael Astley-Brown (Total Guitar, Guitaris

Company behind guitar auto-tuning systems, marketed as G-Force, taking legal action



Tronical, the German firm whose Powertune automatic ‘robot’ guitar tuning systems were first introduced in 2005, has announced it is suing Gibson for $50 million.

The company, which identifies itself as 'the exclusive licensor of auto-tuning', has today stated it is bringing legal action against Gibson Brands, which has been pending before the Hamburg State Court since December 2017.

In a statement issued to MusicRadar, Tronical founder Chris Adams said, "Tronical is claiming licensing fees to the amount of 23 million US dollars from the share in the profits agreed in the contract, and a further 27 million US dollars on the grounds of Gibson’s breach of contract of the exclusive research and development agreement with Tronical, which Gibson should have met by 2026."

Tronical’s technology has been marketed on Gibson guitars as the G-Force automatic tuning system (previously known as Min-ETune), and was first introduced to the guitar giant's electrics with the advent of the Robot Guitar in 2007.

The tech became standard issue with the launch of Gibson's controversial 2015 range, but following a mixed reaction among guitarists, it was assigned to High Performance electrics only in 2016 and 2017, and appears on just a handful of models in the 2018 line-up.

The lawsuit will come as bad news for Gibson, which is already facing a potential $520 million in debt and even bankruptcy, leading to staff layoffs, factory closures and sales of existing brands, including Cakewalk.

For the full story on Gibson’s troubles so far, have a read of our in-depth feature, Gibson: how did we get here?

www.musicradar.com/news/tronical-to-sue-gibson-for-dollar50-million

Read more: http://guitarplayersforum.boards.net/thread/462/current-guitar-news?page=2#ixzz5DcJzNumC


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#2923164 - 04/24/18 11:49 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: DocPate]
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#2923167 - 04/24/18 12:03 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: DocPate]
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I think Gibson went in the wrong direction with the robotic tuners. On the LP I bought last year I changed from a Gold Top High Performance with robot tuners to a Gibson Classic with Grover locking tuners in Cherry sunburst. I love the locking tuners and am sure glad I made the change. I think Gibson was throwing those robot tuners on a lot of their lower end jobs just to get rid of them LOL! They had problems with them at first and worked the bugs out later somehow. But they still never really caught on as us older dudes like the older way of tuning. I guess the robotic tuners would be good for the slide and altered tuning guys... cool
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#2923170 - 04/24/18 12:47 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Larryz]
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I'm not sure how much actual profits Tronical can lay a claim to with Gibson. I'd say the robot tuners were a total dud in the Gibson line. At the very least, the concept of automatic tuners did not contribute to Gibson being financially solvent.
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#2923180 - 04/24/18 02:37 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Scott Fraser]
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I have to wonder what 'profits' they hope to recover from a failed product line, and what breach there is of a commitment that wasn't supposed to have been fulfilled until 2026?

In an aside, one article I saw online had a photo, showing the robo-tuners on the back of a Fender-style headstock, which raises the question of 'exclusivity', and again, what breach, exactly. Were they prevented from making and distributing their own product under the terms of their contract with Gibson, or were they just banking on Gibson's potential sales to carry their product into the market, having failed to make it on their own? Is suing Gibson the only way they're going to make money on a product that didn't sell? I call bad judgement all around . . .
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#2923194 - 04/24/18 05:16 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Winston Psmith]
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I never tried robotic tuners on any guitar I have ever owned, it is easy enough to tune an instrument. I ain't that lazy that I need assistance with tuning.

As for that company suing Gibson, it is gonna be pretty darn hard to squeeze any of the blood out of that stone.
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#2923198 - 04/24/18 05:34 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: desertbluesman]
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I have read a lot of reviews and comments about the G-Force tuners, and I still have not read one review written by anyone who said those things were the best tuners they've ever seen. Remember, no matter how mediocre a product is, there's always at least one person who, for whatever reason, thinks it's the best thing they've ever used or seen. I have yet to see that positive review on those accursed robot tuners.
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#2923224 - 04/24/18 08:19 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Sharkman]
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I tried out a guitar, a Gibson Les Paul, with those tuners- they weren't functioning correctly (dying battery?), and as manual tuners, they were HORRID. A total, complete no-go and deal breaker for me on ANY guitar.
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#2923263 - 04/25/18 04:49 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Heh, they sound like the "4-6-8" GM engine of the guitar world. grin

The "concept" being that the engine would run on four cylinders ordinarily, thereby saving gasoline, and run on six when extra power or speed is needed, and then all eight when it was floored for passing or it was sensed that extra weight(like a boat trailer or mobile home) was being towed. BIG TIME failure! GM's worst decision since making Roger Smith CEO. wink
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#2923272 - 04/25/18 06:05 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: whitefang]
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I've never used them but do they even really work? All instruments are stretched tuned to varying degree. Not so much on guitars but still I will tweak a guitar's tuning after it is machine tuned.

For example ...Sometimes I SLIGHTLY detune the 3rds for slide.... it just depends.


Edited by CEB (04/25/18 06:06 AM)
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#2923290 - 04/25/18 08:01 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: CEB]
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Originally Posted By: CEB
I've never used them but do they even really work?


Great question! Anyone have an answer?

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#2923340 - 04/25/18 12:08 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: DocPate]
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Originally Posted By: DocPate
Originally Posted By: CEB
I've never used them but do they even really work?


Great question! Anyone have an answer?


When they first appeared on Gibsons, a while back, under the name Min-E-Tune, IIRC, one of the Guitars was reviewed in GP, which of course included a review of the robo-tuners themselves. It wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement; at best, it suggested that there would probably be a 'breaking-in' period, but they did not dial right into tune, out of the box. I'll try to find the review, if only so the rest of us can look it up.

I think Sharkman's remarks point out something very telling about this product: no one is waving the flag for these tuners. Somewhere, you will find a fan, or an advocate, for almost any fool thing that's ever been made & marketed for the Guitar: someone went through the time, effort and expense to revive the Gizmotron, of all absurd things. I have never seen anyone using these, I have never heard anyone saying anything positive about them, and most telling of all, Gibson pretty much gave up trying to market them. From the same folks who brought us the Firebird Zero, that shows severe lack of confidence.
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#2923344 - 04/25/18 12:13 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Winston Psmith]
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#2923357 - 04/25/18 01:46 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Winston Psmith]
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At least the Min-E-Tune made it to production. Aren't we still waiting for Gibson's MaGIC MIDI guitars to roll out?
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#2923368 - 04/25/18 02:13 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Danzilla]
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At least the Min-E-Tune made it to production. Aren't we still waiting for Gibson's MaGIC MIDI guitars to roll out?


Don't hold your breath . . . There's this thing, but it seems more like a Bluetooth Guitar than MIDI? I'd go for the Fishman Tripleplay, rather than this . . .

Gibson Digital Guitar

According to Wikipedia, the last software revision for MaGIC was 2003; clearly not a priority.
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#2923395 - 04/25/18 04:26 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Winston Psmith]
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Thanks Brother Winston! I had looked into the robot tuners and almost ordered an LP with them but decided not to. The article confirmed what I had read (i.e. that they work well for altered tuning). If I played slide, I might have been more interested in them. They can get you in close going from tuning to tuning (including your own custom tuning settings) quickly. The article said with in 2.5 cents either way which is not that close at top speed. But the speed could be slowed town for more accuracy. You could then finish them off with an in-line or snap on tuner and check tuning by ear as well...good info! I passed on them and went with the Grover locking tuners. cool
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#2923469 - 04/26/18 07:29 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: desertbluesman]
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Originally Posted By: desertbluesman
I never tried robotic tuners on any guitar I have ever owned, it is easy enough to tune an instrument. I ain't that lazy that I need assistance with tuning.

Most can do that but I think the basic idea of robotic tuners was/is setting up a quick shift to specific, often multiple, non-standard tunings which even then might need tweaking.
A time saver, not a accuracy over-ride.
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#2923545 - 04/26/18 01:48 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Larryz]
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The article said with in 2.5 cents either way which is not that close at top speed. But the speed could be slowed town for more accuracy. You could then finish them off with an in-line or snap on tuner and check tuning by ear as well...good info!


Don't forget that you had to dis-engage the robo-tuners in order to fine tune the Guitar, then engage them once more. That, and still having to rely on your ears, or yet another tuner, sounds more like an encumbrance than an enhancement, to me.
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#2923580 - 04/26/18 04:26 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Winston Psmith]
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Originally Posted By: Larryz
The article said with in 2.5 cents either way which is not that close at top speed. But the speed could be slowed town for more accuracy. You could then finish them off with an in-line or snap on tuner and check tuning by ear as well...good info!


Don't forget that you had to dis-engage the robo-tuners in order to fine tune the Guitar, then engage them once more. That, and still having to rely on your ears, or yet another tuner, sounds more like an encumbrance than an enhancement, to me.


+1 but, I don't know how quickly it would be to engage and dis-engage the auto function for final manual tuning as I didn't get a chance to play with the unit. I know you can't leave some strings 2.5 cents out of tune LOL! It may be as simple as turning on or off a switch or pressing a button. I could see those that use a lot of altered tunings may be able to make the changes rapidly from D to A to G to E to their own custom tunings, etc., and then use their tuner or ear once all the strings are close to being re-tuned. It may save some time making changes. Since I don't use altered tunings, I decided to pass as I can tune pretty fast using standard tuning... cool
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#2923648 - 04/27/18 02:52 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Larryz]
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I appear to be mistaken about specific models but, I am sure there were several pedals that allowed you to create and store your own tunings. I thought Korg made one of them but, the model I thought is was seems like just a rackmount tuner. But the pedal would allow you to punch up a tuning without string breakage, or fiddling with tuners longer than playing music. When I get some time I`ll see if I can find one.

Here`s one that has a separate app where you can store your tunings-my how times have changed:
https://www.roadietuner.com/


Edited by skipclone 1 (04/27/18 02:55 AM)
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#2923655 - 04/27/18 04:37 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: skipclone 1]
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I suppose if one uses multiple tunings in one sitting, and doesn't have(or can't afford) a multitude of guitars, that device would make sense.

So, what's next?

A device that fastens to the front of your guitar that STRUMS it for ya? rolleyes
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#2923664 - 04/27/18 05:31 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: whitefang]
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Keeley strikes Plexi gold with El Rey Dorado overdrive pedal
By Michael Astley-Brown (Total Guitar, Guitarist)

JTM-inspired stompbox features multiple power modes



Keeley has announced what it’s calling “your new go-to box for that Plexi tone”, the El Rey Dorado overdrive pedal.

Two gain modes, accessed via the pedal’s power toggle, are key to its JTM-aping flexibility: lo power mode is louder, girthier and features fewer harmonics, while hi power ups the compression and harmonics for a tighter tone.

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100 hand-built limited-editions El Reys have already sold out, but thankfully, a full production run revs up on 4 May.

From then, the pedal will be available exclusively at Riff City Guitar Outlet, Andertons and Robert Keeley FX for $149.

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#2923677 - 04/27/18 07:28 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: DocPate]
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Keeley makes some nice sounding pedals and they are very well made. Not Cheap but worth it IMHO. I could get some Loggins and Messina sounds out of the El Dorado OD... cool
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#2923809 - 04/28/18 04:25 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Larryz]
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I'll derail slightly to ask ('cause I'm curious).....

Do any of y'all actually STOMP on a "stomp box", or is it just an easy reference word, like "WHAMmy" for "whammy bar"?
blush Tell ya the truth, I never heard it called a "whammy bar" nor EVER called it that until I read it here in these forums some 15+ years ago. wink And, IMHO, does sound a lot like "baby talk" to me. Like "my bad" and other vernacular. wink
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#2923842 - 04/28/18 08:12 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: whitefang]
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I've always called the stomp boxes a pedal. Even though there are some with pedals like a wah wahs, cry babys, volume pedals, flangers, stereo panners, etc., most of them are really not pedals. Stomp box verses multi effects verses effects or whatever is just guitar lingo IMHO. There can be some stomping, tap dancing or toe tapping ballerina work involved, depending on the aggressive nature of the user LOL!

We always called the whammys a vibrato bar or referred to them as our tremolo bars (trem for short)...unless they were a Bigsby and/or a Floyd Rose (and they could just be called a Bigs or a Floyed or a Rose for short). I think the Whammy Bar (or Whammy) just came about somewhere along the way. cool


Edited by Larryz (04/28/18 08:19 AM)
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#2923852 - 04/28/18 08:51 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: whitefang]
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I'll derail slightly to ask ('cause I'm curious).....

Do any of y'all actually STOMP on a "stomp box", or is it just an easy reference word, like "WHAMmy" for "whammy bar"?
blush Tell ya the truth, I never heard it called a "whammy bar" nor EVER called it that until I read it here in these forums some 15+ years ago. wink And, IMHO, does sound a lot like "baby talk" to me. Like "my bad" and other vernacular. wink
Whitefang


@Whitefang - I'm old enough that the first 'slang' term I recall is "Fuzzbox", late 60's through the 70's, at least. I didn't start hearing "Stompbox" until maybe the mid-80's, or thereabouts?

I'm not sure where it came from, but I do recall that some of the early push-button type footswitches would require a fairly convincing 'stomp' to engage them, especially after repeated use & abuse. IME, stomping on your pedals just wears out the switches long before you should.

BTW, in answer to a previous post - there's been more than one attempt to make a Guitar Strummer, most of them DIY projects, but I have vague memories of at least one real product? Don't search on "Strummer Guitar", or you'll get endless links to the late Joe Strummer of The Clash, and the signature Guitar Fender made.
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#2923921 - 04/28/18 03:09 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Winston Psmith]
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In an effort to ease the thread back on topic, this was a slightly different approach, incorporating Auto-Tune into a Guitar. No mechanical tuners, but an onboard DSP that 'tunes' the output signal. FWIW, I've never seen anyone using one of these, either?

Peavey AT-200 Auto-Tune Guitar
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#2923982 - 04/29/18 04:08 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Winston Psmith]
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#2924038 - 04/29/18 09:30 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: skipclone 1]
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That Peavey Auto Tune is a cool concept Winston. I have always wondered why phantom power is not used via the guitar cord to power active pickups...this one does so. Maybe not at 48 volts but at enough to replace the 4 onboard batteries. The strumming polyphonic tuners as opposed to single string chromatic clip-ons have been around for little while. Not sure if the robot and Auto tune tuners came 1st of if the polyphonic stomp box did? Kind of a chicken or the egg thing for me...

Anyway the thread on the other site and on this one is interesting and incorporates not just auto tuner concepts (like the Keeley pedal) but other new stuff that is out there (like Fred's new toy) along with newsworthy stories. Glad you brought the thread here too Doc! I would like to try that Peavey one of these days and the price seems more than reasonable...great info Winston! cool
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#2924175 - 04/30/18 04:28 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Larryz]
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Man, what they WON'T come up with these days!

I remember when (cuz my buddy's DAD was big into shooting and showing home movies back in the "day") "self threading" film projectors were a "revolution". How soon now before a "self-stringing" guitar hits the market? wink
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#2924266 - 04/30/18 10:20 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: whitefang]
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Re: Gibson auto-tuners

And now Gibson is suing Tronical.

www.musicradar.com/news/gibson-to-sue-tr...relations-stunt

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#2924269 - 04/30/18 10:30 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: DocPate]
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There are always two sides to a story. I hope Gibson prevails as the product did not make the big splash that Tronical expected. Thus it didn't perform in the market place and I think Tronical just wants to get paid anyway... cool



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#2924286 - 04/30/18 11:47 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Larryz]
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Kind of what I suggested a while back, that the product line failed on its own merits, or lack thereof, and now the only way to make money is to try and sue Gibson? Gibson's response seems to be, "If you'd held up your end of the bargain, we both might have made money!" This is starting to sound like an argument between two drunks . . .
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#2924301 - 04/30/18 01:07 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Winston Psmith]
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This is starting to sound like an argument between two drunks . . .


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#2924306 - 04/30/18 01:23 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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This is starting to sound like an argument between two drunks . . .


...in a bar that’s on fire.


LMAO

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#2924428 - 05/01/18 06:36 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: whitefang]
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I have never used robotic tuner, yet. Though turning the guitar is like a meditation for me before playing the guitar, but I am sure it is very helpful device.
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#2924433 - 05/01/18 06:54 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Kenji13]
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Welcome Aboard Kenji13! I love my little snap-on tuner. cool
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#2924786 - 05/02/18 10:42 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: whitefang]
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Today's news (May 2, 2018)

8 forward-thinking acoustic guitars that use alternative tonewoods
By Rob Laing 7 hours ago


https://www.musicradar.com/news/8-forward-thinking-acoustic-guitars-that-use-alternative-tonewoods

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Epiphone unveils Jason Hook M-4 Explorer signature guitar
By Michael Astley-Brown (Total Guitar) 7 hours agoGuitars

No let up in new models despite Gibson bankruptcy

Despite parent company Gibson filing for bankruptcy, it seems it’s business for usual for Epiphone - on the same day the guitar giant handed over its papers, Epi announced the Ltd Ed M-4 Explorer for session player and Five Finger Death Punch guitarist Jason Hook.

Besides Hook’s distinctive M-4 Sherman graphics, there are a number of interesting tweaks throughout the model, including a deeper upper body cutaway for easier upper-fret access, and an angled scarf across the top of the body to provide an arm rest.

A Custom SlimTaper profile neck features a 12” radius

Granadilla fingerboard, while two Seymour Duncan humbuckers provide the tones: a Vintage ’59 in the neck and JB in the bridge - there are volume controls for each pickup and a master tone.

Each model comes with a gigbag and Certificate of Authenticity.

There’s no info on price or availability yet, but assuming guitar production continues as normal, we won’t have long to wait - for now, Epiphone has all the specs.

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Fender’s Parallel Universe expands with launch of American Elite Telecaster HSS guitar
By Michael Astley-Brown (Total Guitar, Guitarist) 6 hours agoGuitars

Limited-edition model packs Shawbucker bridge pickup

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#2924830 - 05/02/18 01:52 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: DocPate]
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My dad drove an M4 Sherman Tank; I'd like to see that Guitar, not sure I'd buy it.
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#2924935 - 05/03/18 04:24 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Winston Psmith]
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cool
Wonder if it's pick-ups are on a "turret"?

Anyway, as I stated elsewhere, I get a "certificate error" when clicking on that link, so I'll have to take y'all's word for anything. frown
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#2924953 - 05/03/18 06:37 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: whitefang]
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Don't worry Fang, the link is not about the Sherman electric, it is on 8 different tone woods used on some acoustic guitars... cool


https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DSJHEGCHSig--gibson-jason-hook-m-4-sherman-explorer-signed <---try this one!


Edited by Larryz (05/03/18 06:40 AM)
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#2924964 - 05/03/18 07:20 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Larryz]
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Originally Posted By: Larryz
Don't worry Fang, the link is not about the Sherman electric, it is on 8 different tone woods used on some acoustic guitars... cool


https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DSJHEGCHSig--gibson-jason-hook-m-4-sherman-explorer-signed <---try this one!


Ah, the tank image is a cartoon on the case, the Guitar itself . . . nothing I'd get excited about.
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#2924978 - 05/03/18 07:52 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Winston Psmith]
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+1 "no reason to get excited". It does have M4 Sherman engraved in the truss rod cover...I still don't get what that "scarf arm" carved into the front with a piece of plastic wire cover is supposed to be for? I could see a whammy storage if it had a whammy! Also, on the graphics there should be 3 up and 3 down if you're going to put a star in the middle...not my cup of tea either. Maybe a Jason Hook fan would find it cool (especially a signed one)... cool


Edited by Larryz (05/03/18 07:54 AM)
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#2925034 - 05/03/18 10:15 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Larryz]
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A dramatically ugly signature model from a guitarist I've never heard of, in a band I'v never heard of. I'd be curious to see what Gibson's balance sheet looks like for this POS.
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#2925951 - 05/08/18 10:47 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: whitefang]
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Ex-KISS Guitarist VINNIE VINCENT Addresses Rumors About His Gender Identity

May 7, 2018

Ex-KISS Guitarist VINNIE VINCENT Addresses Rumors About His Gender Identity
Former KISS guitarist Vinnie Vincent has addressed rumors about his gender identity.

In recent years, Vincent has been the subject of wild online speculation, including that he has been cross-dressing and that he has undergone a sex change. In addition, Vincent was the focus of a 2017 Swedish TV documentary called "KISS Och Gitarristen Som Försvann" ("KISS And The Guitarist Who Disappeared") which apparently tried, unsuccessfully, to track Vinnie down and get him to sit down for an interview. The filmmakers also brought up the rumor that the musician was living his life as a woman, although the subject was reportedly left open-ended.

During a brand new interview with Greg Schmitt of WESU's syndicated radio show "Noize In The Attic", Vinnie finally responded to the Internet chatter about his sexuality but declined to answer the question directly, explaining that he wanted to keep a mystique about the subject.

Asked if there is any truth to the reports that he is living his life as a woman, the guitarist said (hear audio below): "Not that I know of. I don't know where they came up with this stuff… But see, if I address that, then the mystique is gone. See, everybody loves the mystique. I think they love the mystique, because they don't know. So maybe I'll say, 'I'll let you guys decide,' but then everyone is still talking.

"I get mistaken all the time for something else, but what can I do?" he added. "So when somebody… you correct 'em, and they go, 'I don't understand.' So they go, 'Well…' 'Then I won't correct you.' So maybe it goes that way."

Vinnie went on to say that, up until recently, he "had no idea" that a film crew from Sweden was attempting to find him and make a documentary about him. "Because no one contacted me, no one told me," he said. "I don't go on the Internet typing in my name and wondering what's going on with me, 'cause I don't do that. I had other problems that were going on in my life at the time, so to go finding out what anybody was saying about me, I don't know… And I wasn't interested at that time.

"Somebody, just a month ago, sent me an e-mail saying, 'I'm from Sweden. So how does it feel…?' It was the same question — almost the same question [as the one you asked me]," he continued. "And he said, 'How does it feel to know that a film crew from another country came to America to look for you, and it became a Swedish documentary? And they couldn't find you. And that we don't know if it's true that you were some girl going into a bar?' And I'm thinking, 'What is this about?' I still haven't seen it. But I actually wanna see this to see what they thought they found."

Last month, Vinnie confirmed that he was planning to write and publish his autobiography, which he said would contain "all the real answers — the in-depth answers to everything." He also said that he has already found "a book writer" help him put together the autobiography and has vowed to speak with him "on very deep levels" about all the things he has experienced during his life.

Vincent, who gave his his first public interview in more than 20 years in January at the Atlanta KISS Expo 2018, hopes to complete his autobiography "within a year."

Vinnie joined KISS in 1982, replacing Ace Frehley. As the "Ankh Warrior," he toured with the group in support of "Creatures Of The Night", on which he played lead guitar on six songs prior to becoming an official member of the band. From there, KISS wrote and released "Lick It Up" — their first album without makeup — in 1983, a recording on which Vincent co-wrote eight of 10 songs, including the title track, which remains a staple of the group's live performances to this day.

Despite the album's success, Vincent was fired by KISS after the "Lick It Up" touring cycle came to an end, allegedly due to a dispute over both the terms of his employment contract with the band and royalties. From there, Vincent founded VINNIE VINCENT INVASION, which recorded two albums.

In 1992, Vincent re-teamed with KISS principals Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley to write three songs for their acclaimed album "Revenge", including the record's first two singles, "Unholy" and "I Just Wanna". Their relationship quickly soured once again, however. Four years later, Vincent released a solo EP, "Euphoria", which featured vocals by former VVI singer Fleischman and included material from sessions recorded around 1990. Soon after that, Vincent vanished from the public eye and remained off the grid for more than two decades

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#2926082 - 05/09/18 04:25 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: DocPate]
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Meh, well, if it concerns KISS, I really couldn't care less.
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#2926481 - 05/10/18 08:22 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Larryz]
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Thanks, Larryz!!
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#2926491 - 05/10/18 10:27 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Kenji13]
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#2926579 - 05/11/18 12:41 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Larryz]
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NEW 2018 LIMITED EDITION AMERICAN ELITE TELECASTER® HSS

Model #: 0176052731

https://shop.fender.com/en-US/electric-g...0176052731.html

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#2926584 - 05/11/18 01:15 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: DocPate]
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Originally Posted By: DocPate
NEW 2018 LIMITED EDITION AMERICAN ELITE TELECASTER® HSS
Model #: 0176052731
https://shop.fender.com/en-US/electric-g...0176052731.html


Yeah, well, after mentioning that all you kids need to get off my lawn right now, I'll just say that there are those who believe that a Telecaster is a guitar equipped with 2 single coil pickups, at the bridge & neck. Period. And didn't I tell you to get off my lawn!
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#2926592 - 05/11/18 02:41 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Scott Fraser]
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SF, that ignores one of the most iconic gtrs = the country-inspired neck humbucker mod.





We now return you to yer regularly scheduled programming.
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#2926598 - 05/11/18 04:01 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: d]
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SF, that ignores one of the most iconic gtrs = the country-inspired neck humbucker mod.


Why, yes, it does.
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#2926631 - 05/12/18 04:55 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Scott Fraser]
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rolleyes

Next thing you know someone will complain because it comes in something OTHER than BEIGE! freak
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#2926646 - 05/12/18 08:35 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: DocPate]
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Originally Posted By: DocPate
NEW 2018 LIMITED EDITION AMERICAN ELITE TELECASTER® HSS

Model #: 0176052731

https://shop.fender.com/en-US/electric-g...0176052731.html



@ Doc, I like that Tele in a lot of ways but I'm not sold on the pickup ideas. I like the contoured body top and back. The old Teles were much the flat earth concept which is one reason I liked the Strat better. I also like the Strat style saddles and stop bridge set up. I also like the 5 way with the S1 switch on the tone knob so you can play all 3 and/or kick the front and rear pups together. It's basically the old Nashville Tele concept without the Strat pup in the middle position. The American made Nashville Tele is more to my liking than the original.

I would have left the stock Tele pup in the rear and forgot about the humbucker in the rear or in the front. I would have went with two Strat pups middle and front and captured the phase sound for more of a country rock (which is why they came out with the Nashville version decades upon decades ago. A stock Tele up front would be fine too. I like the compound radius and neck concept too. It's a great looking axe but I would have to have mine custom made with regard to the pups... cool
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#2926657 - 05/12/18 10:12 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Larryz]
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Gotta say...lots of other guitar makers out there, some doing Tele variants just as described.
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#2926677 - 05/12/18 01:23 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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I remember a Yamaha model I saw in the mid-90's with a Tele-style body, and two HB's. Can't recall the name or number . . .

Call me an old f&@%, but much of the Tele's distinctive tone comes from the pickups, doesn't it? I know, session players liked being able to switch tones without having to switch Guitars, and that's probably how it started.

Still, if I were looking for a Tele, I'd be looking for THIS!
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#2926714 - 05/12/18 06:54 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Winston Psmith]
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Originally Posted By: Winston Psmith
Call me an old f&@%, but much of the Tele's distinctive tone comes from the pickups, doesn't it? I know, session players liked being able to switch tones without having to switch Guitars, and that's probably how it started.


You can call me an old f&@% too. I think the two humbuckers on a solid body format is covered pretty well with SGs, LPs, Explorers, Firebirds, etc. The Tele is distinctly different from those & the legions of ESPs, Ibanez's, Schecters, Charvels, etc. And that's a good thing.

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Still, if I were looking for a Tele, I'd be looking for THIS!


That's the starting point. I have nothing against modernity, & I would go with individual saddles, a rosewood board, belly cut & forearm bevel, & binding. But two single coils is what makes this a classic, & a completely distinctive voice.
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#2926722 - 05/12/18 08:25 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Scott Fraser]
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I have 2 Teleclones: one with a tele pickup in the neck and a Charlie Christian in the bridge, the second with a bridge HB and a HB-sized P90 in the neck.

Reverend, one of my favorite companies, does one with a SSS setup. Their Buckshot model-evolved from the Telecaster body- has a Tele bridge pickup and a FillerTron-inspired mini-HB in the neck.

Dean Zelinsky Private Label lets you order theirs in any pickup configuration you want.
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#2926724 - 05/12/18 08:56 PM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Dean Zelinsky also has major quality control issues, as well as customer service issues, so I'd steer clear.
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#2926757 - 05/13/18 07:35 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Scott Fraser]
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Interesting interview with the inventor of the humbucker from Reverb
https://reverb.com/news/interview-seth-l...-bacons-archive

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#2926797 - 05/13/18 11:09 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: DocPate]
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Lots of interesting history on the 57 Gibson Humbuckers and the other pickups in the article... cool
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#2928229 - 05/21/18 05:57 AM Re: Recent Guitar News [Re: Larryz]
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https://www.namm.org/summer/2018

Grez announces 28.5”-scale baritone Mendocino guitar
By Michael Astley-Brown

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Northern California’s Grez Guitars has announced a baritone version of its semi-hollowbody design, the Mendocino Baritone.

Based on the Mendocino, which was unveiled at Summer NAMM last year, the Mendocino Baritone packs a 28.5” scale length, as well as a pair of Lollar Goldfoil pickups.

Tonewoods comprise an old growth redwood top and one-piece Honduran mahogany neck and body, plus a Macassar ebony fretboard.

The Mendocino Baritone is available in Black and Natural nitro finishes, with or without a Bigsby vibrato, for $2,800.

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