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#2917936 - 03/29/18 05:22 AM Weissenborn Style Guitars
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I never knew much about these before. I ran across them while shopping for a Dobro. They are acoustic lap steels the neck is hollow. The originals from the 20s were one piece construction. They have a really cool sound. Modern copies can be had for $300-800. I want one. Apparently they use a open D slack tuning and a Dobro open G tuning is hard on the guitar because the string tension is too high. It would seem you could play with string gauges to be able to use what ever tuning wanted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSYbIhzpXeY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-f9bpMpddA
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#2917972 - 03/29/18 07:32 AM Re: Weissenborn Style Guitars [Re: CEB]
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Very nice...I liked both video samples. I think I like the 2nd one with the sound hole pickup best. thu
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#2918085 - 03/29/18 02:40 PM Re: Weissenborn Style Guitars [Re: Larryz]
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"Heat shimmering off a hot road"? grin

Just play it and leave the sound descriptions to our own devices. grin grin

Interesting instrument though, where did you find them? A local store to you? I'm assuming you've seen newer instruments of the same construction because you did say you ran across them while looking for a DOBRO, so I assumed you were out shopping somewhere, because it makes little sense to me to go shopping on YouTube.
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#2918188 - 03/30/18 08:01 AM Re: Weissenborn Style Guitars [Re: whitefang]
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Stellar sound for a slide player.
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#2918269 - 03/30/18 10:53 PM Re: Weissenborn Style Guitars [Re: CEB]
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#2918436 - 03/31/18 11:54 PM Re: Weissenborn Style Guitars [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Holy cow! I found several other clips as well, and all sound stunningly gorgeous! Not to mention those specific specimens are beautiful!

I tried a reissue a few years ago and didn't feel physically comfortable on it, but it might not have been set up correctly. I think Gold Tone makes the new ones?

Anyway, this has me rethinking the Paul Beard high-end model from Gold Tone -- I might go for a Weissenborn style instead. I believe those were the original Hawai'ian slide guitars anyway?

Something about this model just seems to be more rounded and sweet, that square neck resonators in the deeper-body standard guitar shape, with the metal spider-style resonators installed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbR6msNFVYw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrz5P0dfdfU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ELlbM0xGw0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4Vr9eLbhvQ

Actually though, I think these are acoustic predecessors of the electric lap steels, as opposed to being considered resonator guitars (after all, there's no resonator mechanism of any sort).

Slide guitar is funny, because some people just play slide on a regular guitar. Other people think of slide guitars as specifically the dobro-style resonators; whilst others think of them as lap steels and nothing else.
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#2918437 - 03/31/18 11:57 PM Re: Weissenborn Style Guitars [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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This demo of an Anderwood model is pretty convincing too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u34SiDbl20Q

Did David Lindley typically use an acoustic or electric lap steel in his Jackson Browne recordings?
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#2918452 - 04/01/18 05:03 AM Re: Weissenborn Style Guitars [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Really, most people don't really think in terms of a GUITAR model as being a "slide" guitar, as "slide" is usually mentioned as a STYLE of playing a guitar and not a TYPE of guitar.

And I'm willing to bet too, that most think of Hawaiian guitar as being played on a PEDAL STEEL guitar, and not necessarily a lap steel. And yet others who neither know OR care which instrument the individual musician chooses to use for which. wink Then there's both genre and artist to consider. Like many old blues artists, Taj Mahal in particular, played the Dobro in standard tuning and in a style that would be considered "typical" as far as guitar playing goes, and not always(if ever) in a "slide" style. JOHNNY WINTER too, played Dobros both ways, as did many others before them and after.

IMHO, you're actually doing ANY type of guitar an injustice by relegating particular models to any one specific genre of music or indicating that any such model can ONLY be used for or played in any specific manner or genre. This might give many up and coming novices the idea that it's the way things MUST be done, and many of us "old timers" who believe music allows the freedom of SELF EXPRESSION, think otherwise about such relegation. wink
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#2918555 - 04/01/18 01:09 PM Re: Weissenborn Style Guitars [Re: whitefang]
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Uh oh, Weissenborn GAS.
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#2918575 - 04/01/18 02:04 PM Re: Weissenborn Style Guitars [Re: Scott Fraser]
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There was a dude here in the Detroit area who had a long-scale Weissenborn. The low string was tuned to a G two octaves below the open G on a standard-tuned guitar.
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#2918887 - 04/03/18 12:09 AM Re: Weissenborn Style Guitars [Re: hurricane hugo]
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So you mean it was designed as a baritone, or even a bass, lap steel guitar?

I know there's all kinds of one-off instruments out there, and Gold Tone makes quite a few of them. I tend not to like the way most of them sound vs. more traditional instruments in the lower range.

It's often been said that the differences between instruments are most pronounced in the mid-range. Even as a bassist, I agree with this, and feel that the lowest registers are harder to tell apart in a dense mix, as to which instrument (e.g. contra-bassoon vs. contra-bass flute) produced them.
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#2920023 - 04/08/18 09:03 AM Re: Weissenborn Style Guitars [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I assume it was designed as a baritone, although I never got to ask him about it. He wasn't using it in a band setting when I saw him, just to accompany his vocals. The instrument got to take up a LOT of sonic space.
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