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#2919075 - 04/03/18 09:35 PM Re: Yahama Guitars [Re: Psychotronic]
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Originally Posted By: Psychotronic
I can tell you from personal experience that the Yamaha silent guitars are incredible. None of the videos I found online (including this one) do them justice, but they play and sound amazing.

Also, I own several Yamaha guitars. They're all excellent value. I do agree with the opinion that the pickups can be kind of "vanilla", but they're still decent. I very often bring my 90's Pacifica 812 on tour with me -- it's a great workhorse of an instrument.


Thanks for that input! Particularly regarding an instrument being a worthy workhorse for touring work.
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#2919099 - 04/04/18 03:55 AM Re: Yahama Guitars [Re: Psychotronic]
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Originally Posted By: Psychotronic
I can tell you from personal experience that the Yamaha silent guitars are incredible. None of the videos I found online (including this one) do them justice, but they play and sound amazing.


Thanks for that info. I brought those guitars up in these forums back when I first saw that one in the Canadian casino about 9-10 years ago and got no response at the time. Actually, and IMHO, NO YouTube clip does ANYTHING, song OR instrument demo video, any justice. wink
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#2919111 - 04/04/18 05:38 AM Re: Yahama Guitars [Re: whitefang]
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Originally Posted By: whitefang

Actually, and IMHO, NO YouTube clip does ANYTHING, song OR instrument demo video, any justice. wink
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Do you have quality loudspeakers connected to your computer? If not, then of course it's going to sound terrible coming out of that tiny, little onboard speaker.
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#2919118 - 04/04/18 06:46 AM Re: Yahama Guitars [Re: Fred_C]
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+1 Brother Fred, when I plug my lap top into an amp or PA, or if I use my headphones, there is a big difference in the YouTube audio quality. The little lap top speakers work fine for most of my YT use though... cool
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#2919298 - 04/05/18 03:56 AM Re: Yahama Guitars [Re: Fred_C]
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Originally Posted By: Fred_C
Do you have quality loudspeakers connected to your computer? If not, then of course it's going to sound terrible coming out of that tiny, little onboard speaker.


Well, while I'm not using the onboard speaker, the ones I do have connected to my PC aren't admittedly "state of the art" nor are comparable to what I use for my home sound system. But too, I suspect that most "home recordings" done by those who do post a lot of clips to the site aren't exactly using high end "state of the art" recording equipment either, which then makes investing in high end speakers for the PC a waste of money also.

But then again, I never DID intend for my PC to be my main source of visual or sound reproduction entertainment, Nor either pertinent information, so in my case, it is what it is. wink
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#2919341 - 04/05/18 07:45 AM Re: Yahama Guitars [Re: whitefang]
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Well of course there is a signal chain effect-from an original performance in a room, assuming that is totally live, to your ears. There are several-what to call them...interstices. They work either for or against preserving the original performance. Even if the original didn`t have great sound, I would point out that some performances on youtube would be difficult or impossible to hear otherwise, regardless of fidelity. That is important to some listeners.


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#2919395 - 04/05/18 10:48 AM Re: Yahama Guitars [Re: skipclone 1]
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Good speakers do allow one to hear how badly compromised YouTube sound is, i.e. much worse (to my ears) than standard mp3 encoding. I often prefer my laptop speakers for the simple fact that I'm less aware of the artifacts. Same with the picture; I wouldn't really want to see YouTube picture quality on a high quality, large screen. It's just dramatically bad quality, which can be overlooked somewhat on a tiny screen. Worst of all, & why I can't watch any YouTube very closely, is how far out of sync sound is with picture. Overall, I find it a very low quality experience, well suited to an iPad or laptop.
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#2919824 - 04/07/18 05:10 AM Re: Yahama Guitars [Re: Scott Fraser]
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Yeah. And I've gotten TOO SPOILED watching movies and TV shows on a 50" widescreen television to EVER settle again for watching them on anything smaller. Especially something the size of a BUSINESS CARD.

But I'm simply stating none of it works for ME. But anyone else is free to do as they choose of course. But, I personally know several "Gadget junkies" who, when finding out I don't care to bother with any of that stuff, spend HOURS trying to convince me how GREAT it all is. It's almost as if they get PAID a certain amount for every convert they pull in. grin
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#2919859 - 04/07/18 07:51 AM Re: Yahama Guitars [Re: Scott Fraser]
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Originally Posted By: Scott Fraser
YouTube picture quality on a high quality, large screen. It's just dramatically bad quality, which can be overlooked somewhat on a tiny screen.


Actually, If the content provider knows what they are doing, YouTube videos can be some of the highest quality on the Internet with the top end hitting 1080P@60FPS and even 4K. Quality so high that my old PC stuttered when it tried to play it back because it was too much info for it to process. Once I upgraded my video card, I am now able to watch 1080P in 60Fps on my 50" LED LCD and the quality is stunning.

The days of confining videos to a tiny screen are over...unless you are watching someone's personal videos, recorded with their 4MP, front facing camera on their 3 year old Samsung "Free" phone. Then...the quality will certainly look bad.

Also, if you are getting audio sync issues, it is more apt to be a problem with your PC. Sometimes, if you have a lower end PC, or a PC that is bogged down with other processes, video processing can take longer than audio and it can cause things to go out of sync. Upgrading your hardware or cleaning out unnecessary programs, will fix this.
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#2919958 - 04/07/18 07:59 PM Re: Yahama Guitars [Re: p90jr]
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I remember those! I spent a little time with one that someone I was in a band with had. 'S alright.

Originally Posted By: p90jr
I've told this story here many times, but as a 14 year old who'd worked a couple of summers to buy a "real guitar" to replace the warped and disintegrating Menphis Les Paul copy I'd played to death, I had $800... That could've bought me about 7 used Jaguars and Jazzmasters from the pawnshops, but they were all screwy and in disrepair and I was scared off... the local stores had the Teles and Strats marked over $1000 and the ol' "well, I just have this $800 in cash" ploy just got laughs from them. The Gibsons I could almost afford offended me... the "firebrand" things with no finish or binding and Gibson branded on the headstock... just felt cheap. The cooler salesmen would suggest Ibanez and Yamaha, and pull out their personal guitars to show that they really did play them at gigs and they really were great bang for the buck, not that I needed to be convinced, the bands I liked were using Yamaha (Squeeze, Men At Work, Carlos Santana, Duran Duran, etc.) and Ibanez (Sting played an Ibanez bass at the time, this great power pop band that was really popular in the region called The Producers played Ibanez guitars and basses and sounded terrific)... so I ended up getting a Yamaha SC-400, as pictured at link:

https://guitarz.blogspot.com/2009/06/yamaha-sc400.html

It was a fantastic playing and sounding and built guitar. Set neck, Gibson scale-length, overwound single coils that sounded as fat as humbuckers when you wanted them to... but quack in positions 2 and 4. I played it for years, hard, until I outgrew it (as in my physical size... it started looking too tiny on my expanding frame). I still have it, it's still a great guitar.
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#2920304 - 04/09/18 11:58 AM Re: Yahama Guitars [Re: Psychotronic]
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Originally Posted By: Psychotronic
Also, I own several Yamaha guitars. They're all excellent value. I do agree with the opinion that the pickups can be kind of "vanilla", but they're still decent. I very often bring my 90's Pacifica 812 on tour with me -- it's a great workhorse of an instrument.


Brings up another question: Can you upgrade the electronics easily

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#2928142 - 05/20/18 04:03 PM Re: Yahama Guitars [Re: Psychotronic]
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I saw many Yamaha guitars, but they are all great. It always well constructed. One thing I notice is that Yahama guitar has great sound, but I have never surprized with the tone. I mean it all balanced well, but it is a bit flat for me.
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#2929096 - 05/24/18 02:11 PM Re: Yahama Guitars [Re: Scott Fraser]
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Originally Posted By: Scott Fraser
Good speakers do allow one to hear how badly compromised YouTube sound is, i.e. much worse (to my ears) than standard mp3 encoding. I often prefer my laptop speakers for the simple fact that I'm less aware of the artifacts. Same with the picture; I wouldn't really want to see YouTube picture quality on a high quality, large screen. It's just dramatically bad quality, which can be overlooked somewhat on a tiny screen. Worst of all, & why I can't watch any YouTube very closely, is how far out of sync sound is with picture. Overall, I find it a very low quality experience, well suited to an iPad or laptop.


Frequently watching concerts on my TVs either through Amazon TV firesticks that pull up youtube or using a Google Chromecast, I can say you're right about the sound, but a computer's resolution is still much higher than most HD TVs... not that most content uploaded to Youtube by average people is HD or even in clear resolution to begin with... but there are lots of "official concert sources" that have great video uploaded, there, and they seem to beat the sync'ing problem that's prevalent... I really hear how bad the audio encoding is when I stream the audio to my stereo... And, Youtube is my wife's preferred method of streaming music in the car and around the house. I have Spotify on her devices set to highest quality but she won't use it... and YouTube has realized a lot of people do that so they're pitching themselves as an audio streaming source... at least record companies seem to be uploading the files, themselves...

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