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#2913846 - 03/09/18 01:57 AM Crumar Seven
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#2913848 - 03/09/18 02:01 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Nadroj]
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This looks like my dream bottom board that I've been fantasising about for a long time. 73 weighted keys, carry case, built in keyboard stand with flat top for putting a clonewheel/synth on top.

The "background pad" feature looks very handy too. 9/10 when I'm wanting a layer on a bottom board it's just for a pad.


Edited by Nadroj (03/09/18 02:35 AM)
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#2913850 - 03/09/18 02:03 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Nadroj]
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Brilliant concept and inspired design, GAS overload!!
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#2913851 - 03/09/18 02:15 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Keybass]
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Weight ?

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#2913852 - 03/09/18 02:17 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: sosho]
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Weight (piano only): 15 Kg 33 lbs
Weight with cover and legs: 23,5 Kg 51,8 lbs

http://www.crumar.it/?a=showproduct&b=36&w=specs

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#2913854 - 03/09/18 02:54 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: nickd]
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#2913855 - 03/09/18 02:55 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: nickd]
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Wow...

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#2913856 - 03/09/18 03:03 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Nadroj]
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#2913857 - 03/09/18 03:11 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Synthoid]
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And the legs are 3,5 kg , can be carried seperately. I wonder what kind of wood the case is made of . I think my rhodes case and legs are much heavier . I hope the action feels similar to the dexibell 73 key board

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#2913858 - 03/09/18 03:19 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: sosho]
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Originally Posted By: sosho
And the legs are 3,5 kg , can be carried seperately. I wonder what kind of wood the case is made of . I think my rhodes case and legs are much heavier . I hope the action feels similar to the dexibell 73 key board


Probably FATAR. Looks like TP40, possibly TP-100.
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#2913860 - 03/09/18 03:46 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Nadroj]
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Wow! They really do seem to understand the best aspects of 70's and 80's designs..with the flat top, quick select buttons, both pedal & expression, and legs...bottom board heaven!
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#2913864 - 03/09/18 04:18 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: The_Star_Guy]
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Price? Monotimbral?

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#2913868 - 03/09/18 04:32 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Kurt W]
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At least bitimbral as it seems ( with the pad which hopefully can be edited via Wifi )

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#2913872 - 03/09/18 04:49 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: sosho]
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Very disappointing ---- for my purposes. I am sure that it will be attractive to some gigging musicians but for me it offers nothing. I don't like the form factor for my home studio and the functions don't add a thing to what I have. I was hoping for a world class combo organ ---
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#2913875 - 03/09/18 05:08 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: teashea]
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33lbs is promising. 52 lbs is much too heavy. Cost?


Edited by HammondDave (03/09/18 05:10 AM)
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#2913876 - 03/09/18 05:12 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Nadroj]
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What no chrome legs?
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#2913877 - 03/09/18 05:20 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: HammondDave]
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Looks great, sounds great... twothumbs
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#2913881 - 03/09/18 05:28 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: jahfume]
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Beautiful! On the specs page, sample playback is listed as one of the engines, which you can assume that it works as a basic "support" rompler too (mellotrons, please). Wonder if it's removable from the bottom part of the case. A price below 1600 US is dreaming too much? LOL
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#2913882 - 03/09/18 05:31 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: MorayM]
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I love the design, looks like a Rhodes and a Korg SV1. And i really like the in case design. Nice to have the option of the legs though I wouldnt like setting up the keyboard at that angle on some of the gigs i do....just not enough room and invariably something/someone would fall on it. Still nice to have the option. Beautiful sounding machine too.
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#2913883 - 03/09/18 05:33 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Dockeys]
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Id like to see a photo of a Mojo 61 sitting on top.

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#2913884 - 03/09/18 05:38 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Kurt W]
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Originally Posted By: Kurt W
Price? Monotimbral?

Looks like it's monotimbral, with the ability to layer a pad, which is listed as an "effect".

I'm going to guess about $1500, where it would be competitive with an SV-1.
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#2913885 - 03/09/18 05:43 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Pigmeat]
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Damn.
Yes, it's "just another stage piano", and I'm not too fond of the rainbow lights show, but the feature set is perfect. Not too little, not too much. Only the most useful sounds, a little customization possibilities, in a sexy vintage look.

They kinda fused the best concepts from Nord and SV1-Grandstage. And yes, the flat top begs for a Mojo61, Legend solo or even better, a vintage analog synth!

If the sounds are top-notch (and Crumar track record says they will almost certainly be) and the price is right (I'd guess max 1500 for a TP-100 action, max 2000 if it's a TP-40), this may be a real classic.

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#2913886 - 03/09/18 05:58 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Spider76]
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Modeled grand piano, not the sampled one in the Gemini. I wonder if that engine will make it into any of the other DSP based instruments.
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#2913890 - 03/09/18 06:18 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Mighty Ferguson]
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$2399 MSRP.

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#2913891 - 03/09/18 06:20 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Mighty Ferguson]
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I am all set for digital piano right now, but the form factor most certainly appeals. This with a Mojo 61 or Nord on top would cover all of the bread and butter stuff.
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#2913894 - 03/09/18 06:24 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Dave Bryce]
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$2399 MSRP.

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If memory serves - and it usually doesn't - this exceeds the price I paid for the Yamaha CP4 a few years ago. But had this been available at the time, I might have purchased it, if nothing else because of nostalgia and how closely it looks like my old Rhodes.

I love the form factor, but a stage piano for me ultimately comes to down to how the keys feel and play.

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#2913895 - 03/09/18 06:27 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Mighty Ferguson]
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Originally Posted By: Mighty Ferguson
Modeled grand piano, not the sampled one in the Gemini. I wonder if that engine will make it into any of the other DSP based instruments.

Or maybe better...have the option to add the Gemini module (as you can with the GSI DMC 122). Missed opportunity for expansion and to add flexibility at the Seven's $2399MSRP price point.
I guess this is only seven of nine snax

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#2913896 - 03/09/18 06:28 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: jahfume]
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Thats really cool! Somewhat similar concept to Korg SV-1 but comes with lid. And it looks so good! I wonder where the sounds come from? Is it the same engine that Mojo has? And, whats the keybed? I think its too light to have TP-40.

I can imagine Mojo sitting on top of it! Price? GAS!
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#2913898 - 03/09/18 06:33 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Nadroj]
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Originally Posted By: Nadroj

Probably FATAR. Looks like TP40, possibly TP-100.


TP-40L action is available as 76 and 88 keys versions.
For 73 keys youd have to cut it.
All the other TP-40 seem to be available with 88 keys only.

Custom product might be too expensive and Ive never seen any TP40 M, H, GH or WOOD other than w/ 88keys in a keyboard up to now,- so I guess its TP-100.

Now, if it had a 5-pin DIN MIDI-In too, I`d be able to use my existing 88 weighted keys action,- but unfortunately they forgot that connection. facepalm
But when Im wrong w/ my lines above, the better.
73 FATAR TP-40 WOOD would be excellent !

Id also wish it had a CC-pedal controllable Ringmodulator in the FX-1 section in addition.

Otherwise I like it and in the demo it sounds great IMO.

Id probably replace the cheapo looking flightcase corners by professional "ball corner" ones which protect better.

The "Seven" looks great and the flat top is what I always wanted for such instruments,- great to put a single manual organ or multi-purpose machine like a Kurz PC316/PC3K6 on top.

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#2913899 - 03/09/18 06:36 AM Re: Crumar Seven [Re: Nadroj]
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Did someone say Seven of Nine?


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