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#2955096 - 10/28/18 11:10 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: MikeT156]
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Wow, that was a tough loss: a kickoff return fumble cost Aaron Rodgers a chance to put together another game winning drive. Of course, if the Packers are going to lose to any team, I'm glad it's the Rams. As a fan of both teams, I think this was a game that could have gone either way.

The last time I can remember the Rams playing against the Packers in the Los Angeles area, the Rams were near at the end of their original California stay. I remember sitting in the stands, being impressed at how many Green Bay fans were in attendance.

Today was no different. Judging on crowd noise, I'd say roughly 30-40% of the fans at the Coliseum were rooting for the Packers. The Rams were even dressed in throwback uniforms of the '90s. I was swept away with nostalgia while watching the game on my TV set.

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#2955252 - 10/29/18 02:51 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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As far as I'm concerned, Gregg Williams should have been banned from the NFL for life after Bountygate. I'm very disappointed to see him promoted to interim head coach by the Browns after firing Hue Jackson:

A NFL focused on player safety should never have Gregg Williams as an interim head coach

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#2955269 - 10/29/18 03:53 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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There was 2:05 remaining in the Packers-Rams game at the last kickoff. If there were no return, the Packers (with Aaron Rodgers) would have gotten the ball at their 25 with 2:05 remaining, could have passed the ball in the middle of the field and gotten a clock stoppage at the 2 minute warning, without using a time out.

I think the Packers coach should have instructed the returner to not return the ball, unless forced to do so by a short kick. And I think the Rams coach should have instructed his kicker to kick off a little short so that it did not land in the end zone, to force a time-wasting return.

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#2955277 - 10/29/18 04:15 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: harmonizer]
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No doubt, harmonizer, on all counts. There was a good discussion about this here:



We often focus on the final plays affecting the outcome, but it's also worth considering that the Rams margin of victory was due to the first points they put on the board: the safety.

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#2955295 - 10/29/18 05:35 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
Gregg Williams as an interim head coach

Rest assured that Williams will not get the head coaching job and he may not be retained as defensive coordinator when the dust settles.

If they cannot lure Oklahoma head coach Lincoln Riley from college football to become their head coach, the Browns will probably look for the 2nd coming of Sean McVay who is being heralded as a coaching wunderkind.

I wouldn't be surprised if New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels isn't on the Browns list of head coaching candidates. Not that McDaniels wants to leave Foxboro.

It will be interesting to see who the Browns ultimately hire to lead their young talent. cool
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#2955301 - 10/29/18 06:11 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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It will be interesting to see who the Browns ultimately hire to lead their young talent. cool

...And then fire two years later.

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. wink )

Seriously though, I'm confident that the Browns will eventually become winners again, and they probably have the talent to do so now; but the organization itself is so dysfunctional that I'm not sure we'll live to see a great Browns team.

I'm also pretty confident that you're right about Williams not getting the permanent HC job, and I hope he'll get canned by the next HC. Even so, it bothers me to see him get a job as water boy in the NFL, let alone as an interim HC.

By the way, congrats on taking a four game lead in the Pick 'em Pool, ProfD. I'm struggling just to be in third place behind you and Dave this year.

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#2955324 - 10/29/18 08:15 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Geoff, you're right about the dysfunction that is the Browns. laugh

The NFL has its fraternal aspects especially as it relates to coaches. Eventually, they won't recycle the bad apples. cool
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#2955539 - 10/30/18 06:24 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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Thanks, ProfD. May the NFL follow your prediction.

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#2955540 - 10/30/18 06:25 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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This was a surprise. On the face of it, I'd call it an overreaction; but there's always behind-the-scenes information we're not aware of:

Packers trade Ty Montgomery to Ravens for 2020 draft pick

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#2955546 - 10/30/18 06:46 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
This was a surprise. On the face of it, I'd call it an overreaction; but there's always behind-the-scenes information we're not aware of:

Packers trade Ty Montgomery to Ravens for 2020 draft pick

Over reaction? Ya think? I'm not so sure. idk

He threw a temper tantrumon the sidelines about the way he was being used towards the end of the Rams game. He was told to take a knee in the end zone with that fateful kickoff. He diecided to run it out to show everybody...and he fumbled the ball, and cost his team the game.

No way he was ever going to take another snap as a Packer. hand

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#2955553 - 10/30/18 08:19 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Ty Montgomery had a very bad day without a doubt; but he had a good career with the Packers overall, highlighted by switching from wide receiver to a dual threat running back when Green Bay needed one. As a fan, I was upset with his actions in Sunday's game; but I was happy with his play up until that point.

I think it's worth considering Ty Montgomery's explanation of what happened. Apparently, he choose to return the kick because was worried that he might take a knee on the half foot line:

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=25121203

Obviously, that doesn't cover the way he behaved on the sideline; and regardless of why, he made a poor choice on the return. I just think there may be more to the story than we saw.

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#2955564 - 10/30/18 10:01 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
I just think there may be more to the story than we saw.


very possible, Geoff, but with all due respect I have to agree with dB on this one. Regardless, he is no longer a Packer so time to move on.
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#2955570 - 10/30/18 10:57 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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I understand, Dave. 'Nuff said.

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#2955994 - 11/02/18 04:20 AM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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so, anybody think Gruden is going to tell them to keep their money?

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#2956090 - 11/02/18 11:54 AM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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It seems like Jon Gruden is trading great players and trying to tank so he can get great draft picks to build the team he wants.

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#2956092 - 11/02/18 12:04 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
It seems like Jon Gruden is trading great players and trying to tank so he can get great draft picks to build the team he wants.

I hope it's that simple...but if it is, they may pay a huge price for it, largely because they want to pull off a big auspicious move to a new market in a few years.

I'm leaning towards believing the stories about the front office friction with Chucky. Looks a bit like what happened in Philly with Chip Kelly.

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#2956999 - 11/08/18 05:57 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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#2957067 - 11/09/18 08:11 AM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Steelers-Panthers Thursday Night Football. 52-21 Steelers.

I listened to the game on the radio last night, and watched the highlights this morning. That's the most points the Steelers have scored in years, and the best game they played as long as I can remember. Carolina made some mistakes that led to Steeler points, but the game was not as lopsided as the score would indicate. Carolina moved the ball but was unable to put it in the end zone on many of their drives.

The Steelers Defense is looking better, there was nowhere to go but up. Ben was 22 for 25 for 328 yards and 5 touchdowns. That was the best game he's had in 10 years.

www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/carolin...hk1su2ja1rduckh

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#2957097 - 11/09/18 10:01 AM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: MikeT156]
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Steelers-Panthers Thursday Night Football. 52-21 Steelers.

Carolina made some mistakes that led to Steeler points, but the game was not as lopsided as the score would indicate.

My opinion from watching the game is that it looked as lopsided as the score indicates. laugh

Sure, Carolina moved the ball at times but for the most part, the Steelers defense had Cam Newton in a pressure cooker throughout the game.

Also IMO, the Panthers have a one-dimensional offense. The major threats are the QB and RB. They do not have game-breaking WRs. The unimaginative play-calling doesn't help either. rolleyes

Defensive coordinators should already know from Super Bowl L how to shut down Carolina. The Steelers went there last night and pulled out a can of whup azz. grin cool
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#2957159 - 11/09/18 08:57 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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never been a fan, but hate to see this happen to anyone

Dez Bryant diagnosed with torn Achilles
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#2957366 - Yesterday at 11:58 AM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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The Bears look good today. Except for Cody Parkey, who has hit the four uprights FOUR times now against the Lions. Weird. Never seen anything like that before.

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#2957368 - Yesterday at 12:19 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: KenElevenShadows]
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...and it's so bad that the Bears elected to go for a two-point extra conversion when they were leading 32-10 with the fans cheering when they heard of the decision. Wow.

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#2957375 - Yesterday at 02:34 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler


never been a fan, but hate to see this happen to anyone

Dez Bryant diagnosed with torn Achilles



I was kind of looking forward to the Saints at Cowboys later this season.
Too bad for Dez, the Saints are on a roll.

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#2957376 - Yesterday at 02:40 PM Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: KenElevenShadows]
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...and it's so bad that the Bears elected to go for a two-point extra conversion when they were leading 32-10 with the fans cheering when they heard of the decision. Wow.


Ken maybe it was just being merciful- missing 5 is worse than 4. Tough day for a kicker, though hitting the upright that many times is something.

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#2957486 - 45 minutes 54 seconds ago Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Originally Posted By: KenElevenShadows
...and it's so bad that the Bears elected to go for a two-point extra conversion when they were leading 32-10 with the fans cheering when they heard of the decision. Wow.


Ken maybe it was just being merciful- missing 5 is worse than 4. Tough day for a kicker, though hitting the upright that many times is something.


Unlike any other position on the team it's usually not just a "tough" day, but a "last" day as well....

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#2957489 - 36 minutes 41 seconds ago Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: area51recording]
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I thoroughly enjoyed watching New England get their butts kicked yesterday. Brady was sacked, rushed, and threw 18 incompletions when they stopped counting and showing it on the screen. A few former Patriot players including DD Lewis and Butler are now on the Titans football team and enjoyed giving it back to New England.

In other news, apparently Bell is not going to report to the Steelers, so he will have to sit out the season. Good riddance.



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#2957493 - 23 minutes 24 seconds ago Re: Official NFL 2018-2019 Thread [Re: KenElevenShadows]
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The Bears look good today. Except for Cody Parkey, who has hit the four uprights FOUR times now against the Lions. Weird. Never seen anything like that before.


That was tough to watch. Meanwhile, Gould is hitting some top percentages. lol Go figure.

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