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#2907595 - 02/06/18 09:54 AM Dexibell Vivo S9?
kenheeter Offline
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Hello all, I was just wondering if anyone checked out this new entry at NAMM and hoping to hear some impressions. Thanks, Ken

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#2907642 - 02/06/18 12:31 PM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: kenheeter]
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Its nice. Its the same sound engine as in all Dexibell boards so nothing new there. It has motorized sliders that can be used for organ and other controls - and - some of their knobs have LED segments on them to show what knob position the knobs are at! This is the first time I've seen a board incorporate both of these features together (Nord has those segment-displayed knobs on some of their boards, and Behringer had a controller with motorized faders).

Didn't get to play one as the only one hooked up was being demo'd by Dexibell. The keys are supposed to be of better quality than the others in the Vivo line because they "wanted something that was better matched the quality of their sounds". Its not the Fatar TP40/wood, but something new (I assume its still Fatar though but don't quote me).
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#2907696 - 02/06/18 05:51 PM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: PianoManChuck]
kenheeter Offline
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Thanks Chuck! The Dexibell stuff is iteresting to me. Have you had a chance to play the S3 with the TP100? If so, how playable is it? I like the small form factor and weight.

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#2907705 - 02/06/18 06:58 PM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: kenheeter]
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Any place in the USA to try these out?
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#2907725 - 02/06/18 07:55 PM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: analogman1]
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I'm intrigued by the S1 for its portability. 68 weighted action (TP100) keys, 18.7 lbs, minimalist form. There isn't anything else like it. To my thinking, it would just need a good piano sound to be useful, and (like all Vivos) it seems to have that. But it's pricey at $1400.


Edited by Adan (02/06/18 08:12 PM)
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#2907787 - 02/07/18 05:51 AM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: analogman1]
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Sam Ash in NYC has a Dexibell ...not sure which model
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#2907791 - 02/07/18 06:20 AM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: kenheeter]
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Originally Posted By: kenheeter
Thanks Chuck! The Dexibell stuff is iteresting to me. Have you had a chance to play the S3 with the TP100? If so, how playable is it? I like the small form factor and weight.


I have and S3 (plus four other Dexibelles). I think it is a wonderful piece of work. I have compared Dexibell's piano to all of my other keyboards and Dexibell is the best. They combine sampling and modeling. Very intelligently done. The powerful quad core processor that they use in all their keyboards provides great ability to do what they want. The sampling length is up to 15 seconds - much longer than any other manufacturer. Controls are well designed and the build quality is excellent. Metal construction.
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#2907793 - 02/07/18 06:20 AM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: jimkost2002]
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68 keys, is that a typo?
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#2907796 - 02/07/18 06:29 AM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: richforman]
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Originally Posted By: richforman
68 keys, is that a typo?


No sir.
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#2907800 - 02/07/18 06:59 AM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: Adan]
Rusty Mike Offline
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Originally Posted By: Adan
I'm intrigued by the S1 for its portability. 68 weighted action (TP100) keys, 18.7 lbs, minimalist form. There isn't anything else like it. To my thinking, it would just need a good piano sound to be useful, and (like all Vivos) it seems to have that. But it's pricey at $1400.


I agree. There is a lot of appeal to the S1 for rehearsals and small pick-up gigs. But the price is just a bit off-putting. It also suffers from the RD-64 problem of the controls being on the left cheek block, making it longer than it should be.

In general, I haven't been to thrilled with the Rhodes sound on the Dexibells. The chime part seems a bit over pronounced. A lot of the Kurzweil Rhodes patches tend to have the same quality.

Can the chime attribute of the EP be customized and toned down?
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#2907802 - 02/07/18 07:00 AM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: drawback]
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To my mind, there's a sweet spot for # of keys in a portable weighted action board. I actually think Roland hit it on the nose with the RD64, but then they put the controls on the left to make it basically as long as a 73. The RD also weighs 28 lbs. It's really more table top computer ware than portable piano board. I wish the S1 were 64 instead of 68, but it's still looking like the best thing out there for a carry-around weighted board.
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#2907894 - 02/07/18 11:43 AM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: Rusty Mike]
Adan Offline
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Originally Posted By: Rusty Mike
Originally Posted By: Adan
I'm intrigued by the S1 for its portability. 68 weighted action (TP100) keys, 18.7 lbs, minimalist form. There isn't anything else like it. To my thinking, it would just need a good piano sound to be useful, and (like all Vivos) it seems to have that. But it's pricey at $1400.


I agree. There is a lot of appeal to the S1 for rehearsals and small pick-up gigs. But the price is just a bit off-putting. It also suffers from the RD-64 problem of the controls being on the left cheek block, making it longer than it should be.

In general, I haven't been to thrilled with the Rhodes sound on the Dexibells. The chime part seems a bit over pronounced. A lot of the Kurzweil Rhodes patches tend to have the same quality.

Can the chime attribute of the EP be customized and toned down?


According to the manual, yes, you can adjust the "bell" parameter. Remains to be seen how effective that is.

My thing is, I like to get around by motorcycle. In the Bay Area, it's not just for giggles, it's for practicality. There has never been a weighted action board I could take 2-wheeling, until possibly the S1. So would it be worth $1400 for me to be able to do that? Possibly. Putting that consideration aside, though, it seems like a hefty price for the hardware, though you are getting the same engine under the hood as the other Vivos.
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#2908074 - 02/08/18 08:33 AM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: Adan]
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Dexibell s1 doesn't have weighed keys, doesn't have tp100, but semi weight (I don't remember well the name of fatar, maybe tp9, sure semi weighted and not weighted).
And the new s9 has a new wooden keyboard, always by fatar, a new one

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#2908183 - 02/08/18 04:51 PM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: kenheeter]
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Im open about the merits of this pianna but this lady ( where have you been all my life?)seems to like it and endorse it.
What a beautiful relaxed voice - and in front of such a dead audience.

https://youtu.be/7MV0oj8aqHs

Another demo rippin' up Dolphin Dance

https://youtu.be/IwNLM9nOQs0

I think Dexibell must have a descrete team just coming up with end-cap designs - they just dont seem intergrated.
Still - wouldn't kick one out of bed on that account

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#2908203 - 02/08/18 06:05 PM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: jahfume]
Adan Offline
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It's definitely a nice piano sound. But when other brands can boast of really great Rhodes, wurly, etc while Dexibell seems just middlin' in those areas, it's hard to get super-excited. The downloading possibilities may prove to be an equalizer.

I see now I was wrong about the S1, I thought it had the same hammer action as the S3, but it doesn't. The S3 weighs 22 lbs with 73 keys and the S1 18.7 lbs with 68, so from a weight standpoint, it wasn't a stretch.
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#2921777 - 04/16/18 03:56 PM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: Adan]
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According to Dexibell, the keyboard action on the S9 will have a new version of the Fatar TP40 Wood called the TP400H. I assume the "H" stands for "hammer".


Edited by Radagast (04/16/18 03:57 PM)

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#2921820 - 04/16/18 09:02 PM Re: Dexibell Vivo S9? [Re: Radagast]
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Originally Posted By: Radagast
According to Dexibell, the keyboard action on the S9 will have a new version of the Fatar TP40 Wood called the TP400H. I assume the "H" stands for "hammer".


Common Fatar terminology for keyboard actions is:

S = synth diving board
O = organ waterfall

Then some semi-weighted actions where you dont find the "S" or "O" in the name ...

The portable/lightweight actions like TP-100/ TP-100L/R

for the "better" hammer actions:

L = lite
M = Medium
H = Heavy
GH = graded hammer

w/ the addition of:

WOOD (typically graded hammer and heavy w/ wooden keys)

These already existed for the TP40 actions.

I doubt they now changed that for a new model 400 action.
So, my guess is, its a heavy hammer action.

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